Can the French make better wheels than the Chinese?

Can the French make better wheels than the Chinese? - Corima Essentia 40

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8 ай бұрын

The Corima Essentia 40 wheel-set is the epitome of versatility, and we're going to explore its incredible features and performance across various terrains. From smooth road surfaces to challenging gravel paths, this wheel-set promises to enhance your cycling experience.
We'll kick off this video by discussing the technical specifications, design, and build quality of the Corima Essentia 40 wheel-set. We'll explore its weight, aerodynamics, and the materials used, giving you a comprehensive understanding of what makes these wheels stand out.
Next, we'll delve into the real-world performance of these wheels. We'll take them on a test ride, both on the road and on gravel trails, to assess their handling, stability, and speed. We'll also discuss the adaptability of the Essentia 40s for various tire widths and setups, making them a versatile choice for all riders.
So, whether you're a road cyclist or a gravel grinder, this review will provide you with the insights you need to decide if the Corima Essentia 40 wheel-set is the right choice for your cycling adventures. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more exciting cycling content, and let's roll into this fantastic review together!

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@kylixchi 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Paul for another great vid, on more tech info behind the scenes.

@JamesSocialCycling 8 ай бұрын

Nice looking wheels, pity, I’m still not liking hookless, being a bigger rider. Thanks, good video😊👍

@veganpotterthevegan 8 ай бұрын

Being a bigger rider, I'm riding bigger tires anyway. They ride significantly better with hookless rims. I look forward to the next 5 years. After that, all the best tires will be hookless compatible

@tonyg3091 8 ай бұрын

@@veganpotterthevegan Judging by the patents from Zipp for retrofitting hooks on hookless rims in 5 years there will be no hookless wheels. Specialized already realized that.

@ciulabula1 8 ай бұрын

Congrats on your recent haircut, mate 💇 I'm a quite happy owner of theirs WS 47 DX, they stiff as hell and would perform much better on wider tyres that I currently have fitted (25mm) but I do not like their freehub engagement either the time it takes to engage pawls and the sound, there is significant free stroke followed by a sound. DT Swiss 240 are a way better in those regards.

@Paddystyx 8 ай бұрын

I was anxiously waiting on this video and now delighted that you have published it just before my Corima Essentia wheels goes on my Time ADH. You are correct about the lack of noise, I like that about them and yes I fine them very comfortably soaking up all the bumps.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

A great match I think.

@manuelwenaud8231 7 ай бұрын

Ça fait plaisir tant de compliments pour une petite boîte française ! Banzaï !

@jtb52 8 ай бұрын

We’ve got a nice wheel builder around here Legend in Negrepelisse…and there’s a few others in the area..Corima are more seen on the serious French roadies and sportives. Not too many Sunday riders on those..of course lot of mavic around fitted as spec

@peters8504 8 ай бұрын

I was considering the Corimas for my Look 765 but don’t feel comfortable with there hookless technology. Went with Reserve 40/44.

@DDai-qd8uk 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic choice

@larisonjohnson 8 ай бұрын

Twin spoke setup looks sweet! Throwback to the old Race Lites. They look beautiful. Is the freehub silent? Now all they have to do is add hooks and they would be perfect.

@andrewblakesley4202 8 ай бұрын

Great video

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@paulvanreesch2493 8 ай бұрын

Now, all we need is French groupset🇫🇷

@taxi9554 8 ай бұрын

Mavic had it…too early with electronic 😢

@tinniswood2577 8 ай бұрын

@@taxi9554 Yes, and before that they had a beautiful mechanical groupset used at pro level. Always wanted one back in the day.

@lioneldm5130 8 ай бұрын

A new simplex...

@silitch 8 ай бұрын

Simplex drive chains, Stronglight cranksets, Mavic, center pull brakes, Maillard(one of the first easily changeable gears on a freewheel) were once the standard, giving campy some real competition…

@DR_1_1 3 ай бұрын

@@silitch Weren't Simplex the very first (commercially available) derailleur?

@philipbickerstaff7064 7 ай бұрын

Really informative talk. Interesting though didnt understand some of the comments. Not a wheel builder myself.

@julianhowell6351 8 ай бұрын

Used the Essentia on Paris Roubaix challenge, tubeless with Victoria Corsa controls, superb. Excellent consumer service - need a uk distributer though.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@user-ho6zk5ew1z 8 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to see what you think of there top of the range wheels from corima with the carbon spokes.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

I am so intrigued.

@wfrx4783 8 ай бұрын

Might consider those for a ADHX 45 Gravel build. How's the tubeless setup? I've had zero Issues with DT Swiss + Pirelli combo, so I'm tempted to just stick with that as I know it works for me. But the Corimas are flippin' beautiful. Maybe put some Michelins on for the full french setup?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Nice. Yes. Set up was fine. No problems mounting tyres or inflating.

@moobaz8675 8 ай бұрын

Great review. I've often wondered about these but following bad experiences with Mavics, I have just avoided them for no other reason than they're French. Daft I know. Anyway, in for a penny, in for a pound, I'm going to bite the bullet and get a set for my next build. Wish you were closer to Bath!

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Thank you. I hope you enjoy them.

@julianhowell6351 8 ай бұрын

Different factory, excellent reputation for wheelchair competitive wheels.

@make725daily1 8 ай бұрын

Your video is exceptionally engaging! -- "Success thrives on unwavering dedication."

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@bikesavvy3654 8 ай бұрын

I’ve got several sets of Corima wheels. All rim brake range from 32mm to 55mm and a mix of tubular and clincher. Matched with the cork pads can’t wear them out

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Very nice!

@yuva 8 ай бұрын

hey! what cork pads do you use? I tend to warp my carbon rims using the swiss stop carbon pads

@AkiraShiromizu 8 ай бұрын

Love the silent hub. Would these be using the same mechanics as the Onyx Vesper ones?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Oh. The freehub isn’t completely silent. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

@reecedawson6113 8 ай бұрын

Would you ever do a maintenance or build video for a rider that rides a lot frequently. I ride at least 500km pretty much a week for work or training in nearly all conditions. Me and my bike shop are always talking about my bike. I do a lot of maintenance but probably not enough

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Oh. So many options.

@MarrafaCycling 8 ай бұрын

I bought the 500€ 33mm carbon wheelset ProX, Chinese manufacturer. Until now no complains only on the free hub has a very basic flow. But Comparing with does 1390€? Make sense the price/quality?

@MarrafaCycling 8 ай бұрын

actually I saw exactly now that the price become 1251.00€ (promo)

@JoeW71 8 ай бұрын

Nice looking wheels. Who makes the Look carbon wheels and do you have an opinion about them? Being old, slow, and looking for comfort, would I be better served by riding alloy wheels? As always thanks for your videos. You have become my go to source for biking info.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

I am unsure on the look wheels on the 765. I’ll find out. I would be surprised if they are from the Tunisia factory. I’ll find out.

@JoeW71 8 ай бұрын

@@Mapdec Thanks. Tunisia?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

@@JoeW71 yes. Look have their own factory in Tunisia. I’m not sure the exact politics, of the French, Tunisian relationship though. I imagine it is history of colonialism, independence and trade deals

@veganpotterthevegan 8 ай бұрын

You want shallow wheels for comfort. Carbon or aluminum makes little difference(outside of deep wheels which are largely only available in Carbon) but few aluminum rims are terribly wide. HED Belgium Plus rims and Bontrager Paradigm wheels are both 25mm internally.

@markrushton1516 8 ай бұрын

Reynolds?

@terrywalker7127 8 ай бұрын

Wonder about available replacement parts? Don't think I want to go hook less yet. I think I will buy Fast-forward DT Raw 180

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

As a result of this review Corima are uploading all parts to the website and updating the pressure calc.

@brankododig1585 8 ай бұрын

Mavoc also makes theirs in France. The higher end of their wheels are quite premium for a decent price, a cut above my Chinese wheels.

@timhall7771 8 ай бұрын

So would you choose these over the FFWDs? Or are you still doubtful about spares etc?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Corima list spares in the website. It ok, but not as easy as some. If I needed a duel purpose wheelset I would defo have these high on the list. I can’t think of a better cat 2 wheel that performs as well on the road.

@ciprian7 8 ай бұрын

What is the internal width? what are their recommendation for tires being hookless? would you recommend for road? Thank you

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

I address this at the end. 30mm would be no bother. 28mm brings issues.

@edmundomoreira7158 3 ай бұрын

Hello, i need your help! What brand can you recommend till 45 mm profile com good stilfness and low wheight until 1200 euros with some serius warranty? Thanks

@toite3x3ninjah 6 ай бұрын

Dream wheels

@Kid_Ellipsis 8 ай бұрын

Any idea when their new road wheels will become available?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

I have been told March 2024

@DR_1_1 3 ай бұрын

I'm curious how often you'd need to true your wheels riding 40 mm like that on trails without suspensions?

@Mapdec 3 ай бұрын

If they are built well, probably not until a spoke or nipple actually breaks.

@lopacinski_ 8 ай бұрын

Would like to see the comparison to cadex 50 ultra wheels about stiffness ;)

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Totally different wheels. These are really their dual purpose wheels. The Cadex 50 would compare better to the Corima MCC EVO 47 really.

@lopacinski_ 8 ай бұрын

@@Mapdec In this circumstances i would like to see your review of cadex ;) there's not much, but seems to be one of stiffest and well made ;) Corima MCC EVO 47 is totally different class of the wheels due to their build :)

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

@@lopacinski_ should be the same. Carbon spokes, race focus etc. The essentia 40s in this vid are an all road and gravel wheelset. I doubt Giant would ever send us some Cadex wheels to test.

@MrSzwarz 8 ай бұрын

What about the rear hub and the mechanism? Whats system does Corima have?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

There were some shots of it. Similar to DT ratchet.

@workshopninjathe1st 8 ай бұрын

Proprietary spokes - 90 degree twist to the aero section compared to “normal” CX rays.

@feedbackzaloop 8 ай бұрын

Guess you have to buy straightpull and bend yourself

@veganpotterthevegan 8 ай бұрын

My DTs have proprietary spokes with flattened heads. I bought CX Rays due to a couple broken spokes and ground the heads flat. Saved a LOT of money per spoke😅

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

I forgot they did that. Can’t remember the wheelset. Dicut something.

@markrushton1516 8 ай бұрын

Just take my money!

@jasrod2012 3 ай бұрын

No Chinese shilling over here. Nice to see something different.

@stjepantomislav363 2 ай бұрын

I was looking into buying these wheels, but according to Corima the system weight limit (rider + bike) for those is set to conservative 100 kg. This puts them out of my range, unfortunately.

@silitch 8 ай бұрын

What are the pros and cons of hookless rims?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

no discernible pros in a road bike wheel. For off road you could argue resistance to rock strike, and support of bulging tyres.

@ignus16 8 ай бұрын

they seem have very narrow rims for their road wheels - i think they all list a 26mm width. lost of other brands seem to have gone to ~30mm for road wheels, like the FFWD you have spoken about a few times..

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Good observation. I would say they are average for the market. Probabaly best described as a bit conservative

@ignus16 8 ай бұрын

@@Mapdec maybe its a french thing :P Mavic's high end road wheels are all still very narrow as well

@mark13williams13 8 ай бұрын

They are way behind the times in terms of shape. There is a reason Astana Pro Team dropped them for HED.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

@@mark13williams13 I haven’t really seen their true road wheels to comment. Just these ‘all road / Gravel ‘ ones. I am hoping to see the road set at the show.

@mark13williams13 8 ай бұрын

@@Mapdecall their wheels appear to be 26mm wide. Seems a bit lazy to me from Corima. Why would you not design the Allroad set to be wider to better mate with wider tires for gravel??

@bikerjk1205 8 ай бұрын

Curious on your comment about not having Chinese wheel brands on your channel. You do know that many of the non-Chinese brands have their rims made in China/Taiwan, including FFWD who you promote?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

For sure. We use Venn rims too, and I don’t have anything against Chinese manufacturing. I don’t really have any time for phantom Chinese brands that lack a level of accountability or traceability. It’s actually quite a good subject to discuss one day.

@r.davies2702 8 ай бұрын

Hmmm, with so many established brands. DT Swiss, Hunt etc, I think it's difficult for a new brand to become established. I personally, would opt for a more well known brand. Maybe I'm wrong. Seems like a solid wheelset though.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

They are well established brand. Just small and niche.

@steppings5645 8 ай бұрын

Corima go back to the 1960's. Hunt go way back to 2015. 😂

@r.davies2702 8 ай бұрын

@@steppings5645 Excuse me for not being French.

@markrushton1516 8 ай бұрын

They never pushed their products unlike other brands. Suspect they aren't a big production. They seem to concentrate on quality

@johndef5075 8 ай бұрын

I keep forgetting. What are the advantages of a hookless rim?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

I’ll let you know if I ever find one.

@Michaelholds7769 8 ай бұрын

The manual says you can’t use CO2, compressors or hi flow pumps. Just an fyi for the viewers.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Thanks. This is true of quite a few brands.

@Keksator 8 ай бұрын

huh, didnt knew they are making hookless

@feedbackzaloop 8 ай бұрын

Ah yes, pulling spoke is backed up by a trailing spoke at acute angle so that together they could rip the flange apart. But incomplete fiber wetening is the real party pooper. Even if the insides are packed properly, it makes me suspicious. I would call these gravel racing wheels. For endurance Mavic Cosmic SL should fit better, for near identical price and similar construction. But narrower and bit higher. Also having well established spokes, which in last resort case can be replaced by generic ones. Also very interesting if the freehubs are interchangeable between these two

@tos1x 8 ай бұрын

French Quality - is that a pro or con?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

If they make bikes as well as they make cheese

@richardstephenson5489 8 ай бұрын

They were doing so well, then you said hookless and that’s ruined them. Won’t even consider them now.

@szilardgodi9650 8 ай бұрын

For this price I would be unhappy with the pinholes on the rim’s surface.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Umm. Where are you seeing those. As I understand pinholes they show us as golf ball like dimples.

@wacharaiamsakun1216 3 күн бұрын

Where are the expensive Italian brands made? In the east of course.

@Mapdec 3 күн бұрын

Not always. Basso has an Italian factory. These wheels are made in France.

@andycampbell8766 8 ай бұрын

Gravel?

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

I tried

@ciprian7 8 ай бұрын

Ni Chinese stuff on this site? how about the Farsport wheels and other wheels from China you have featured on this site? nothing against good quality Chinese made products but is comical when make a statement like that and then you compare the Corima with the benchmark Farsports, see where i am going with this? i am a big supporter and like what you been doing to build the channel but please keep it real , thank you for the video

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

FarSports? I benchmark these to the FFWD Ryot. The only time we mention farsports is on the Time build we did where the rider bought their own wheels. I have an inbox full of Chinese brands wanting to send me stuff. I’m just not interested. They are plastered all over KZfaq, I will discuss them when they come into my workshop for service. If you see, Superteam are the brand of the moment and every KZfaqr has a free set. I don’t really want anything to do with it. I couldn’t recommend buying anything that expensive when you can’t just send it back and you have no protection with consumer rights act.

@christopherhood9241 8 ай бұрын

at last ... a quite freehub.

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

It’s not completely silent.

@christopherhood9241 8 ай бұрын

@@Mapdec sure but compared to some you have had .....

@grzZzesiek 6 ай бұрын

no hub sound? rly?

@Mapdec 6 ай бұрын

Never

@todormashev5337 8 ай бұрын

IMO, it is pointless to make any positive review on hook less rims for a road bike!

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

Yeah. Anything under 30mm tyre. Totally agree.

@tonyg3091 8 ай бұрын

These are hookless wheels so no thanks

@RB-lj7ge 8 ай бұрын

Lost me at hookless

@Mapdec 8 ай бұрын

well done for making it that far...

@lazlo2511 8 ай бұрын

As soon as you said hookless I switched off! That’s a failed standard and it will evaporate just looks Press Fit!

@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778 8 ай бұрын

I get the impression that this is an overreaction we are going through at the moment.

@Kid_Ellipsis 8 ай бұрын

People seem confused about the forces governing how a tire bead seals against a rim bed. Hookless works - don’t believe the internet hype.

@getur99 8 ай бұрын

Hookless work on motor vehicles but a tyre machine is needed to de-bead the tyre from the rim. Not your thumbs

@michaelviglianco6121 8 ай бұрын

Yep. Provides no benefits to the user and only negatives. I'm surprised they were able to spin it such that some see it any differently

@Kid_Ellipsis 8 ай бұрын

Hooked rims were designed for folding bead tires with inner tubes and the additional complications from a heat cycling brake surface on the other side of the rim wall. The main issue currently is with consumer knowledge of tire compatibility (width not brand) and appropriate pressures.