Was looking at one in the bmw showroom today whilst taking my f87 m2c in for servicing. It looked a lot nicer in real life than pictures, would like to test drive one for sure.
@robertolombardi3698 Жыл бұрын
65k and you have to spend thousands more just to make it look nicer? Think I’ll stick with my F87, it was great looking out of the box
@sinenomine4540 Жыл бұрын
f87 is a masterpiece.
@adi8216 Жыл бұрын
@@sinenomine4540 it used to be before g87 came in, the only master piece is now is g87
@sinenomine4540 Жыл бұрын
@@adi8216 you spell "abomination" in a weird way...
@adi8216 Жыл бұрын
@@sinenomine4540 good think your personal opinion doesn't prove anything.
@aviator-kn8zq Жыл бұрын
it can @@adi8216
@IamnotClarissaOakes Жыл бұрын
I'm liking it more and more. Front and E30 sides look almost retro - boxy, DTM BMW. Backside... not so much. I like the upward 'swoop' tho. Bonnet too long, but you cant fix that. Lowered, looks entirely in keeping with the bodywork. Didnt realise you'd done it! Very much looking forward to what you do with it -especially back end and under the hood. Gonna be an exciting project.
@AliMildred11 ай бұрын
I think the G87 looks fantastic. Obviously the design language at BMW has hit a bit of a rut, but considering some of the designs we have had recently, I would argue this is one of the better looking cars in its lineup.
@alexhentschel1080 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the AutoID g87? I think they did an excellent job of making the car actually look beautiful and even more aggressive. Excited to see what you guys can do with it!
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
We have yes, good friends of ours!
@ianmitchell9102 Жыл бұрын
I saw it for the first time in the flesh at Goodwood, I must admit I was pleasantly surprised. It was in red and stunning, I couldn’t believe how comfy it was. The cs will be expensive but one of the best M cars ever.
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Perhaps we need to make a CS before BMW 🤔
@hisremix5000 Жыл бұрын
😂
@BrakRulesAll Жыл бұрын
If anyone can polish a turd, it's Imran! Looking forward to following this build.
@user-ye2sb2fx5d Жыл бұрын
I prefer the f 87
@nickychavda Жыл бұрын
For me the biggest styling issue are the rear lights, they are far too small for the body and just look really odd
@meady200 Жыл бұрын
I do actually quite like the looks of the G87, but the moment Starla came on screen, you just realise all over again how unbelievably pretty the F87s are. Its just such a shame they made this car so much bigger. It's no use to me down B roads around Bedfordshire/Norfolk being this wide, I don't want the stress of constantly having to try and squeeze it past oncoming SUVs.
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
You definitely feel the size compared to the F87.
@zeesiiij Жыл бұрын
You made good valid points imran about how interior and tech is a good step up. But the looks are fugly by a longshot, the previous gen is more handsome and my upmost fave. Can you make it look better?!! 😅😅
@phantom2k10 Жыл бұрын
The design is clearly from the metaverse,but I'm moreso interested in the performance once the big tuners start really getting to town with this car.I've seen a shop somewhere in Europe who did a stage 2+ upgrade and the car was making just under 800 break,which is insanity.This new s58 engine makes the b58 look like child's play(no disrespect to the mighty b58 lol)
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Power wise it will be pretty much identical to the G8X M3/M4, we have our own G82 M4 that will do a 9.9s 1/4 mile on 99 octane fuel. The difference is this M2 is RWD, so the usability of that power is questionable.
@tinorosmg9374 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s a great looking car. The fact that it’s the same weight as my e63 m6 is a bit wild though.
@Peanutdenver Жыл бұрын
I worked in London for a year as an American and always wondered why the roads, especially B roads, are not maintained more aggressively. They're as bad as Denver Colorado here in the States where I worked a few years ago. Now Colorado experiences snow, slush, and hail all over the state then add salt and chemicals for de-icing which tears them up. Anyway, great vid. I like the new M2 more so in person and had my first glance when getting my first service on my G82 M4C...it's a great canvass to start with imo.
@markrhoden68 Жыл бұрын
Having seen the new M2 in the flesh I found it reminded me of those test mules rather than the finish product
@RTWENTY3 Жыл бұрын
Great review Imran, cannot wait to see what you guys do with this.
@phillipchandler8862 Жыл бұрын
Just wonder Imran what you think about putting some protection in for the rads as some big open spaces in front making them very susceptible to stone damage. Really looking forward to future vids on this car.👍
@jono8606 Жыл бұрын
It would make sense. My M140i suffered ‘stoned’ radiator due to lack of protection (on later ones BMW put grill in place)
@leored79 Жыл бұрын
What i think you could do - and i put this to M division myself (i am a BMW employee) - is to make this between 140-170 kg lighter. At this point youd have the same power/weight ratio as 718 GTS 4.0, which would make for an interesting comparison. Another interesting project would be to take the s58 and to implant it into the previous M2, then you'd really see how much potential is in this engine when not laden with all that balast ..
@bokiNYC Жыл бұрын
I like your ideas 👍
@leored79 Жыл бұрын
@@bokiNYC i think if you gave the exposure and backing through partners, it would make a great series. Remember when Auto Alex / car throttle took that old e46 330d touring and week for week made it lighter / better. Was a cool series...
@leobats14 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always. Keep up the good work.
@Hcarmad Жыл бұрын
F87 still the looker, the G87 is literally on steroids
@johnmorrison27 Жыл бұрын
Best review so far on KZfaq 👍👍
@mireliomarzo646811 ай бұрын
Best looking M2 to date . Finally , back to E30 M boxy vibes. Its Butch! BIMMERS were always heavier but handle better and better. Almost Everything high end is made in China so Mexico is whatever. I test Drove one and sealed the deal .
@gianni_schicchi Жыл бұрын
The windows are my favourite part of the design.
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
There really is something for everyone!
@stevenfoleyuk9404 Жыл бұрын
Made in Mexico on the cheap and sold at a Premium . The Old M2 had the X Factor .
@porkster5924 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you and the photoshopped front end, it looks far far better matched to the bodywork 👍
@ebsupra Жыл бұрын
The size is what throws me off with newer BMWs. I park my E90 M3 near an F87 M2 CS and it looks so large in comparison (the higher window line is probably a factor). The G87 M2 front clip is massive. I wish they would have stuck near the E82 size.
@R03333 Жыл бұрын
E90's almost look small nowadays and that's a big plus imo, nothing worse than having to worry about fitting down smaller lanes
@stevem2323 Жыл бұрын
@@R03333 With time passing i love my E90 more and more.
@richardmesser1091 Жыл бұрын
Bigger, heavier, more expensive. Made in Mexico
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
These are all accurate facts
@gianni_schicchi Жыл бұрын
Smaller rear seat to boot 😂
@Decrepit_biker Жыл бұрын
And much much much uglier
@chadkennedy8675 Жыл бұрын
Puts down power like a complete beast tho also you can download 200hp from this car just by a tune and intake and downipes so this is the modern monsters , comes heavily detuned from factory yet still when you dyno it it makes more power and torque then advertised
@darrenboston342 Жыл бұрын
Got to be honest Imran not a lover of the G87, far prefer F87 M2 Comp👌 The front end on these is absolutely grim!🤢 I’m sure you’ll be developing a new front bumper at some point🤔 Yeah know what you mean about the E30 M3, had a sport Evo when I was 20 years old, what a machine… certainly wish I still had in my collection 🙄 Nice plate by the way👍
@BasRikken Жыл бұрын
im a long time bmw driver but would not even consider this ugly car
@LYSY250 Жыл бұрын
I driven one yesterday and I didn't like how bouncy it gets on uneven surface back end going all over the place. I have a g82 M4 and you cant even compare the two - didn't expect how different it felt - id be quite interested to see what you will do to the suspension
@bobmartin5101 Жыл бұрын
Content that is so good, i put thumbs up same time as i start the show. cheers.
@prashanthp5448 Жыл бұрын
The G87 is a hard sell. In Australia, a lightly used G82 will command the same money and I know which one I'd rather be in. But as an F87 replacement, this car is a bit of a joke, everything considered. No denying that Evolve will turn this into an absolute beast but out of the box, it isn't a car with traditional ///M DNA at least when I drove it. Everything feels a bit too 'grown up' and insulated.
@basschannelsa7155 Жыл бұрын
We are also looking forward to the journey Imran
@MattEMaddock Жыл бұрын
It definitely looks too wide for the roads around me. My F87 M2 is even a little too wide. I enjoy driving my E34 M5 and 911 996 much more than the M2 even though they are quite a bit slower, just because they are that much narrower and less worrying to drive down the smaller roads we have.
@hardcoreep Жыл бұрын
I drove the base 2 Series and I liked it. Thought it was a great intro into the BMW brand. It looks great to me, I don't like the M Performance crap on it.
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
We drove the 220i and were really impressed!
@rebelxx4318 Жыл бұрын
220d Faster and more economic 😊
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
@@rebelxx4318 what
@rebelxx4318 Жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive than the 220i
@deceptivm3624 Жыл бұрын
this guy hasn't met a bmw he doesn't like. All good for the business model :D
@peterwood263311 ай бұрын
Rear reflector area is the fffing worst. Just awful. The intercooler is going to go grey eith stone chips in a few months. With an xdrive comes out then with tuning will be a savage beast. Until then ill keep looking back at my OG when walking away.
@alexdb77 Жыл бұрын
Very informative and pleasent to watch review. Why did you choose DCT vs manual? Looking forward for this project! Cheers 🍺🍺
@yt0500323022 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t have a DCT. It’s a ZF 8-speed auto with a torque converter.
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Generally find the manual in BMWs to not be that amazing, and spend far too much time in traffic.
@jordonfan1283 Жыл бұрын
Nice Defy Extreme Pantone Imran!
@Vicdavies151 Жыл бұрын
Hi I love this car, reminds me of 70’s mk 2 Mexico rally versions, but then I’m old ,can’t wait to see what your going to do to it especially as mat from car wow made it look slow against an m240 tuned version
@JerainJezza Жыл бұрын
Not the best looking, but epic drivetrain!
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Incredibly capable chassis and drivetrain with a lot of potential. Looks wise I think there's a lot of ways owners can go to make it their own.
@Decrepit_biker Жыл бұрын
The looks still hurt my eyes...... a face only a mother could love.
@markjaski64389 ай бұрын
Why did you choose the auto over the manual? There is a clear division in opinions and preferences, what are the key reasons for your choice? Interested to hear from others who have made this choice.
@EvolveAutomotive9 ай бұрын
Too much traffic in the U.K. to be dealing with manuals when the ZF is so good.
@gerardm.50476 ай бұрын
Manual is way more likely to put you into a tree
@lbarbato64259 ай бұрын
Great looking car to my eyes and taste however, after a test drive I can’t justify changing up from my F87 to the G87. G87 is faster, improved but not by that much unless you’re into lots of gadgets. The F87 is such a great car, still love it but I do want a 992 911S, one day perhaps.
@EvolveAutomotive9 ай бұрын
F87 is still an incredible car for sure, luckily we can own both
@alimack5489 Жыл бұрын
The prices of these cars now is just ridiculous it’s not longer the “pinnacle” it’s just over priced for what it actually is a good car with a semi decent engine planted in it
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this is just inflation in action, and if you track car values by inflation they don’t make the huge jumps in value they at first seem to.
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Comparing UK launch prices, and the Bank of Englands inflation calculator, a G87 M2 costs £1000 more than the F87 did, which isn't a lot really.
@PixelVogue Жыл бұрын
Thankfully MasterChef is on soon so I can look at something more tasty than that rear end 😂😂
@lloyd.8272 Жыл бұрын
10:50 now that’s a m2!
@davidhaygarth648 Жыл бұрын
Front end looks 80's aftermarket !
@JonJon-dk3nh Жыл бұрын
The designer wants a Civic Type R
@peterwood263311 ай бұрын
I am not adapting to the large amount of coloured material on the seats. A subtle seam yes. That combined with door card tricolour splash and its a bit '17yr old' though I bet it's fun once jn the car hehe.
@papajimg9238 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy it!! Did you opt for the automatic due to the manual's long ratios?
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Not a massive fan of BMW manuals shift to be honest. It ain't a Porsche or even GR Yaris
@marcoscado5478 Жыл бұрын
What exhaust mods/brands you planning on getting?
@user-bk4vl1ur5f Жыл бұрын
The new one is a beast ❤
@TATER_24 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@nicoscoolvids11 ай бұрын
Too bad you cut the part when you get into the seat, I'd be interested in your strategy to get in and out of these seats. I'm still trying to figure out the best approach a couple of weeks after getting mine.
@EvolveAutomotive11 ай бұрын
Just gotta go for it, grab the bull by the horns and get your arse in the seat!
@quanbaldwin3610 Жыл бұрын
congrats bro can't wait to see ur magic
@Digiphex Жыл бұрын
There seems to be a rebellion against beauty, both in the fashion magazines with the models who are so ugly, and here with a child's concept of designing with blocks and a hatred of beautiful analog gauges for a twenty dollar eBay screen. It is like my first day using some design software back in the 90's and I was coming up with cars like this.
@jamesj97370 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but the "M Race Pack" is an absolute rip off! Carbon roof we get as standard in UK, carbon inlays we get as standard and the top speed you'll never use so you're paying £9k for seats!!!!!!!
@jono8606 Жыл бұрын
It’s a great car but too big and heavy. Still test driving one next week though..
@paulcs2607 Жыл бұрын
Your shoes match the car!
@jouhajohnny Жыл бұрын
G87 just needs a front lip, lowering and spacers
@zali9657 Жыл бұрын
This thing is more heavier than an E39 M5 that’s crazy
@sinenomine4540 Жыл бұрын
no it's not. 121Kg lighter.
@zali9657 Жыл бұрын
@@sinenomine4540 the US spec is lighter
@jasonjohnson905 Жыл бұрын
Send it!!!!!!
@kasuji1 Жыл бұрын
its a rounded square design looks somewhat cartoon like
@chrisg4rr377 Жыл бұрын
Long answer: no it can't Short answer: no
@peterwood263311 ай бұрын
Two new frozen paint options coming. Just dont scratch it or let a bird shit on it. Or if in UK, let it get keyed buy a fellow lovely civilian with a jealousy complex
@tariqmohammed8505 Жыл бұрын
why beemers only no audi or amg
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
1. I don't like understeer. 2. I like dynamic handling.
@trypta9Ай бұрын
Never will be
@dimmacommunication Жыл бұрын
Is that a Seiko or Gran Seiko ?
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Zenith
@dimmacommunication Жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive We have a Man of culture here Uh 😌
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
@@dimmacommunicationalso love GS and Seiko and have both 🙌
@sinenomine4540 Жыл бұрын
rear lights are unbearable
@strussdo11 ай бұрын
This car in Red😭😭😭
@SmiFF_ Жыл бұрын
Man, the uglier they get, the more I slip towards the superbike territory!
@pawels8295 Жыл бұрын
No drama but too far from m4 g82.
@user-se2zh2jy3x Жыл бұрын
Η μπροστινή μασκα κ η πισω ειναι για κλαματα🤔🤔
@ericvermeulen98532 ай бұрын
200kg heavier 😝
@user-pd4ni6vp7o Жыл бұрын
I’m glad it’s ugly and expensive as hopefully because of this My M2c should keep its desirability. I think if you’ve not had the experience of owning the M2c then you will probably like it more. 😂
@js002003 Жыл бұрын
having owned 2 f80s including a cs and driven the f87, its not going to be hard for this g87 to be better than the f87. the g platform is night and day better to the f platform across all their bmw M cars
@gabriox2good Жыл бұрын
the car is ugly, and i am a big BMW fan
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
It's certainly not pretty compared to the F87 M2.
@adi8216 Жыл бұрын
prove this g87 looks ugly... we all know you can't.
@kwonas83 Жыл бұрын
8:10 almost crashed into that car, mate, stick to the speed limit!
@EvolveAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t doing anywhere near the speed limit there, and plenty of room.
@Murphy252000 Жыл бұрын
Ok Stevie Wonder, Jesus wept make I'm not licking Imran but that was far from close, or fast!
@merve500 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 what planet are you on? Nothing close at all.
@sanmiguel4019 Жыл бұрын
Wot you on about, get yourself down to Specsavers matey!
@sinenomine4540 Жыл бұрын
not from the uk I guess? back roads are narrow here.
@bespoke500 Жыл бұрын
I’ll keep my old m2 over the new one 🤢
@adi8216 Жыл бұрын
ever heard of "envy people"?... but why I am telling this to the guy who drives Peugeot 😂
@bespoke500 Жыл бұрын
Envy people purchasing a car they don’t actually own but the bank do?🙄
@adi8216 Жыл бұрын
@@bespoke500 so based on your logic, you should be living in the tent.
@bespoke500 Жыл бұрын
@@adi8216 you can’t compare a car to a mortgage, I own my m2 the bank don’t
@adi8216 Жыл бұрын
@@bespoke500 Now makes sense, you hate G87 M2, because you can't afford it.