And of that, like 90% of it isn't even necessary for graphics or mechanics because the shit barely looks different to then. That said eh it's debateable, because keep in mind 3770k was highest end, and the Pentium II would've been just released which could probably run its fair share of 2007 era games. Which even then, is still pretty much like basically saying it's amazing because you could run newish games on a 10 yo CPU...with a freaking modern day midrange GPU. Not even newish, I mean the most brand new 6700xt like no shit a few cherry picked titles work great. Now try running it off a aged like milk GTX 680, or even 780ti which came out a year before this CPU. To be fair, a 980 or RX 580 can manage even at 1080p if you turn a few things down. Now let's go back and use...integrated graphics to run those games lol because guess what, everything got eventually offloaded onto hardware buiilt into daughter boards like a second CPU almost, because basically our hardware limitations back then had more to do with the fact that even modern concepts of GPUs hadn't truly been invented yet and we still had companies like 3DFX and referred to them as "graphical accelerators" or hardware accelerators for beginning the offloading of instructions onto a completely separate piece of silicon. Prior to the late 90s it was strictly done on CPU, which is a main reason why so many modern machines have trouble running ancient shit and even then is pretty jank because of how the framerate and engine was basically tied directly to CPU, which fun fact the turbo button on old machines actually was to *slow down* your CPU to some locked speed iirc, because it ran like ass with "fast" speeds. We to still have this issue to this very day with different things from sound quality to sprite movement speed not being completely broken on modern machines from back then partially for this reason, which wasn't even that long ago we didn't have audio chipsets built into motherboard and northbridge was still on its separate, higher latency chipset. Will it become SoC's eventually? God I fucking hope not, because then welcome to trashing your whole system just to do some RAM upgrades or whatever else. But anyways yes it's no real wonder to me, and also because of the fact you can literally see the graphical difference between a 1997 game cutscene and a 2007 gameplay, which keep in mind full physics didn't even happen until the middle of that time period with VTMB and HL2's Source engine. So there's also that, and now go back and compare how games look and feel right now to 10 or even 15 years ago and realize other than character models' textures it doesn't seem so different. Not knocking all what you're saying, I like the 3770k, just giving reasons for it, which includes the inverse square law problem of hardware rendering at higher resolutions, which good luck with getting old stuff to run even at 1080p that was meant to run at 640x480 on CRT (as Jehova clearly intended). tl;dr doubling res=quadrupling needed graphical power, so a great deal is now just trying to run stuff at ultra high resolution, which also being fair, most of the early innovations were really finding a hack to deal with problems like that like antialiasing, which 8k would make totally obsolete even to use (and ironically, possibly making ultra settings at 8k not as bad a jump as 768p to 1440p because AA etc is still necessary). So I think a more fair comparison would be to use old Voodoo graphical accelerators vs a GPU from 2012 era like the GTX 780ti, or run games off the 3770k's integrated graphics vs integrated graphics now on a 5700g. Also I'd take that high res 75hz anyday over janky ass looking 768p again seriously how did my eyes even deal with that, or how could anyone deal with 720 but then again most of my genres like city sim and crpg don't benefit at all from 144hz but do benefit tremendously from high resolution. Funny, given that Pentium II's in 1997 ran basically a handful of pixels glued together as sprites.

I am rocking old hardware at 480p

My main rig has an i7-3770 with an RTX 3050 8GB and it runs Doom Eternal, No Mans Sky, MechWarrior 5, and Batman Arkham Knight nice and smooth without overclocking.

same rig as mine

I have a 2600K and was so much better than my current "upgrade" to 3770K LOL I had my 2600K at 4.9ghz and I can't even make the I7 3770K stable at 4.5ghz unless on high voltage, but I'm waiting for a new cooler anyway, hope after it does at least 4.9ghz. Anyway it's very outdated, I have a similar GPU Strix RX580 8GB and it can't do what I want out of it anymore, at least at 4.4ghz it has lot of stuttering in many games I play, specially Hell Let Loose now has twice or more stuttering than on my old I7 2600K at 4.9ghz 🙁

Same as me lol

same bro an it works fine for my needs.

I7 3770 with 1650 super here, wondering if the CPU could take a 2060 o 3060 maybe 🤔

i have a 3570k im thinking im going to pick up a 3770k and a 1660 super for a cheap upgrade

If u have one u can for sure get another 2 years, maybe 3 out of it. But for anyone getting a new build I wouldn't recommend it though.

@Banner damn it, I just built a new pc with this.

@@banner7310 With the way most games are going these days why not? I’ll just keep playing the ones that I can and those are usually better. 8 years on my 3770k maybe it will last another 8 I hope haha

Still going strong 💪​@@banner7310

The ones I've been playing the most recently are Subnautica Below Zero and Euro Truck Simulator 2. There are entire genres of perfectly enjoyable games which are completely overlooked by most tech reviewers, they've never even tried them. No wonder so much focus, and resources, gets pushed into just one kind of game more or less (triple-A shooters - *yawn*). I've still not seen any modern such game which appealed as much as the original Crysis or Stalker/COP.

Stills plays star citizen but with significant dips here and there.

What is the cpu

@@gamingmeanslife1222 Intel Xeon E3-1280 V2

@@kagon01 same performance even with the i7 3770k overclocked?

One of Intel's heydays for sure, although... ...wasn't that also the littlebakeoven generation? Ivy and Sandy were both super power efficient but I thought 4k was hot like hellfire

I just booted back my ancient 3770k recently paired with a good ole refurbished 1080ti Its running great as my plex/jellyfin server and sometimes a retro emulator hardware It can still run AAA games in max 1080p but i rarely play these days I plan to buy spare motherboards/rams and even 3770k because they might not be available in the next few years Cheers fellow ivybridge

Thing is do you want to spend like 1000+ on an upgrade just to make your fps counter go up 50fps? I know its good, i myself have a mid/high tier pc that sits on 144h, but i could easily play with 3570k and gtx1070 and itd still push 100fps in warzone at a fraction of the cost. Pc upgrades are just addictive for sure

I'm too fried to try and understand that.

I have question sir, why watch dog struggled to maintain 60 fps dispit the i7 3770k usage was barely hitting 80%

@@anwarxv9279 poor optimization on the game dev's end is my guess. Likely just isn't fined tuned or something. Either that or there's something that OP isn't telling us

yeah when i heard that i was like wait wat? Couple of years ago i finished witcher 3 at 30-35fps with a controller, zero issues ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

granted i had 3700x and gtx 1070 and played at 4k, so it was silky smooth 30+fps but still...

After following youtubers for 5 years now, and having my own experience of 15years related to PC hardware, I will tell you a little secret - ALL bigger techtubers have agenda of promoting NEW hardware because it's their bread which allows them to make new videos. I was following Linus, Paul, Jayztwocents, Tech deals and a couple of others until I noticed they TRASH older gen hardware. Like seriously, in REAL WORLD scenarios it's a few odd percentage difference between a i5-4690 vs i6-6600, or between FX-8350 vs i7-3770 etc. etc. but those guys make it sound outdated and make you feel miserable. Tech Deals is perfect example of a guy who actually did useful videos for us 90% ordinary earning people (studens, low to mid income etc.) until the channels hits 150k or so then they turn into corporate biatches.

Imo 1.35v is too high, my 3770k can do 4.6ghz at 1.3v but im holding him at 4.5GHz with 1.25v much safer

Nice mine doesn’t work on 4.6 lower then 1.35V but I have a noctua D15 on him so even in prime 95 and intel burn it doesn’t get hotter then 80 degrees Celsius ;) I have a Corsair D4000 airflow case

If more than 1.3v it gonna degred, two years ago i had 2600k at 1.4v 4.6ghz, everyone said it was a safe voltage and after a year the processor started to degre, which made the maximum of 4.4 at 1.35v… 4.6 was working on 1.43v…then i sold it and im on 3770k with safe voltage

Oke thank you for your knowledge ;) I’ll give it a test on a lower voltage I have had these settings for about 7 years now on a asus z77 sabertooth

Im on sabertooth p67 :)

You can use it as x264 dedicated stream encoder or even just gameplay recorder

Thats what I run. Xeon Hex core with 32 gig ECC. 3.7 base 4gz boost. 60GB/sec ram quad channel. They are graphic workstation MBs built for stability and ram bandwidth. But paired with a GTX 1080 it plays all the games at 60-90 fps 1080p@240hz. No compelling reason to update it even in 2022.

It's really amazing how much they still cost to me. There's I shit you not z77 boards out there still costing way more *used* on ebay than a modern midrange x570 board. I've seen $300, what was it, G.1 Sniper or something to that effect and some high end EATX Gigabyte board, UD6H, z77 UD7H something like that. So it's a real shame, which I think is due to crypto miners or maybe the old tariffs on China not sure, because it's pretty much pricing out these great older platforms to being basically just as costly if not moreso than the lowest end 10100 or bottom end Ryzen type stuff. Seeing all six DIMMs populated would be pretty slick in a classic car tier build though, I just haven't got the type of cash to spend whimsically on a computer collection like that (or time really). But man, someday, I'm gonna sit in my garage and just build old classic PCs using Haswells and stuff for fun. Would probably someday need a clean WIndows XP or win7 install on older hardware just to get the files to open and games to run too though

@@pandemicneetbux2110 As PT Barnum once said "There is a sucker born every minute" The z77 was good in its time and has aged so well because cpus have not gotten much faster they are just adding more cores and shrinking dies. Baby steps. Buying a old one at inflated prices? Just say NO, just fuel the creeps that rip people off.

@@Physics072 I mean it depends, mostly those guys are warehoused in China and unscrupulously selling these scam PCs to "gamers" i.e. defrauding the elderly buying their grandkids a prebuilt PC that turns out to have a i5 2400 at best and a GT 710 with cheap RGB strip plugged into a molex control box for $1k USD. The ones selling parts aren't much better sometimes sure, but just check the address they're not based in California or China (CA is a big red flag for Chinese sellers using DHL to fraudulently ship overseas via a US based shell company as "USA" it's not a US seller) and basically just unloading ewaste onto everybody, which is another reason I refuse to buy old boards from China. However, that stated they otherwise are often enough good people or techyescity types or just 30yo boomers parting out their old kit like a used GTX 970 here, R9 290 there, i7 3770 there, Z67 board here. So it pretty much becomes a basic math problem of "how much performance am I getting at this dollar value and am I squeezing by enough that it's cheaper than just getting a AMD 3100 or i3 10100" or whatever. In most cases though yes, from what I've seen I'd say that it's actually only cheaper to be getting parts as the whole package if you're building new, because I've seen Z77 boards complete with an included 3570k or 2700k or i7 3770 kitted out with 4x4 or 2x8gb DDR3 RAM socketed in the board being cheaper than just buying the parts individually, so I'd say it mostly makes sense if you are upgrading your own older PC or otherwise mostly have all the parts already and basically just need the extra EOL end CPU or added RAM or something, otherwise it may cost less and be less risky getting the lowest new parts. Also >you can upgrade too lastly I'll say that you can't, because if you are building a new PC with garbage parts like a $80 board you are not going to be able to upgrade much later anyway and it's basically already ewaste without the cachet of older high end. Those VRMs can't handle anything beyond other bottom end parts, so your PC is going to be perpetually worse than Dell if you do it that way. Just want to dispell the "you have an upgrade path" misinfo about building on bottom end parts vs old high end; either system is going to be as-is practically.

If I was in your shoes, I'd wait a few months to see what the new Intel and Nvidia cards bring to the table.

I know this is old. Lol. But I'm running an i7 2700k oc'd to 4.8 with a RX 6600xt. The only game that was close to the CPU being a bottleneck was bf5 multi at 1080p. So I raised the resolution to 1440p and it brought both CPU/GPU percentages to about 90 with about a 75fps average. 👍

Can Combine good suitable this cpu i7 3770 with vga gtx1060 6g ,bro? I using this combo. I want upgrade hight vga gtx1660super. Is it be bottle neck ?

@@jimmyteo88 prolly bottleneck yes, but it will run mostly fine though! :) notice that i had the K model as well.

You will feel that kind of upgrade in your bones!

indeed the i7 3770k was the last and fastest cpu for that socket and does well for most games but for newer games need an upgrade

Good upgrade, i just picked one up for $50 usd. Just check the motherboard compatibility. The games will run fine, the 60 fps is a marketing rubish.. you dont need it for single player as long as your 1% lows and any stutter stays above 30 fps. I have been playing far cry 5 on the old machine at average 22fps (4k ultra) and its quiet payable (very surprised).

Thanks for sending it. It was just unstable at 4.4Ghz. Probably just getting old and tired like the rest of us ;)

@@TheGoodOldGamer I had 2. One was never oced but could not remember which.

@@TheGoodOldGamerMaybe you should've de-lidded it. It makes a huge difference for Ivy Bridge temps.

I had a similar experience. My 3770k was clocked at 4.6ghz with 2133mhz RAM. I had that until 2 years ago, and it was still doing the job in modern games. My performance was notably better than what he shows here at 4.3ghz with 1600 RAM.

@@hartsickdisciple yea, now I remember, I had to de-lid my other 3770k even with 240mm aio to get anything more than 1.25v

There's no point in buying top tier mainstream CPUs anymore for gaming. The 5600X is only 1% slower than the 5950X and the 10400 is withing 10% the 11900K. High core counts aren't necessary for gaming and that's all the higher tier CPUs really offer.

You are right but no enthusiast would actually keep their CPU for almost 10 years so maybe it was a 1 of for some people buying an i7 back then 😅

@@TheGoodOldGamer a very valid point and I agree. However I personally like a no-concession build (as far as my budget allows for it) that’s why i went with the 32gig in 2012. So much has changed since then. Nice to see these oldies in a benchmark though 🙂 … hard to imagine if I’d had a 10yr old CPU back at the time, I guess that would have been a AMD 1800xp for me at the time… it never made it to 2010.

@@adi6293 to be honest, the performance increase up until 9th gen really didn’t seem worth the investment to me. I did upgrade the GPU. Unfortunately i was stuck with DDR3, but to be honest, it’s not that bad/slow actually. Most games i play, hardly peg my CPU, to this day… but that is rapidly changing now. CPU manufacturers are innovating again, speeds and cores make a difference again, however the prices in the current climate is what’s stopping me from upgrading right now. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@ari-mcbrown Intel's 12600 & 12400 "should" be interesting. The 12600 6+4C "could" match or beat the 5800X for $300ish and the 12400 leaks show it's basically a 5600X, but will be like $200ish. The IPC increase is what interests me the most especially for emulation that really needs all the single core it can get. Things are interesting, but in reality Amazon had the i7 10700K/F for $250 yesterday, and that thing is all anyone would need until 2030ish. We're just at the point of spending the absolute minimum to get maximum value.

Same for me, i am now at a 3700x. My 3570k is still in use as a secondary pc, running @4.4 almost from day one.

The only upgrade you need if you plan to play all new games at 2K-4K maxed out is a good gpu and monitor, save yourself some money.

I have both the i7 3770k and non k, and it doesnt seem to have much of a difference in performance in a game like New World. But I did not test the avg fps. And also the ram speed is slower on the 3770k. So my test is not accurate. In Cinebench R23, my 3770k can get about 4,400. At 4.0ghz. And my 3770 get's about 3600. So there is a reasonable jump in performance between the 3770k and non k. At least in Cinebench R23.

Also I should note, I am not held back by the gpu 90% of the time. I use a RTX 3060 with those computers.

I was running BF5 with a i7 2700k oc'd to 4.8 and a 6600xt. Averaged about 80 fps on 1080 with ultra settings. Cpu at 85% and gpu about 40%. BF5 is the only game so far that was bottlenecked by the i7 at 1080. So I bumped it up to 1440p ultra and now both percentages hover around 90% and I barely lost any fps. Then one day booted it up and it ran horrible. Ended up seeing that it started up without the oc. With the stock clock it was horrible. Cyberpunk is less CPU intensive than BF5 in my case. 1080p max setting, GPU is maxed and CPU is around 80%. So the i7 is still working pretty well. 👍

How is the R9? I bought a Sapphire R9 270X 4GB a couple of years ago at a garage sale for $5 built a system for the living room with it and a R5 2600 I had.

@@TerraWare Well, the R9 290 uses the Hawaii PRO GPU, which is roughly on par with an RX 470/480 4GB. It runs a bit hot by modern standards, but does fine with decent airflow. On the other hand, your R9 270X uses the Curacao XT GPU, which was a variant of the Pitcairn XT GPU in the previous gen Radeon HD 7870. It was THE mid-range GPU to buy in 2013-2014. In modern terms, it's about on-par with a GTX 1050.

Just want to say mine works perfectly with my 1060 6gb, 60fps at 1080p in most titles might want to think about the 1060 6gb if you can

Don't get the wrong idea though Origins stutters like crazy with my Ryzen 1600, 2600x and 3700x too. (rx580, 5700xt) Ubisoft just likes to use old ass engines overloaded to the brim with huge worlds and new effects that result in bad performance

It ran fine on my 4790K@4.7Ghz with an EVGA GTX 1080 Classified @ 2100Mhz on a 1440p/144Hz monitor. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lal1m5eK3qq8Z2g.html

you dont need to upgrade anything, just OC your cpu to 4.6 if you have a good mobo. in most cases your gtx1080 will become a bottleneck

@@siriusargus6766 hmm I never had any stutter in Origins when I was using my 2700x with a gtx 1080 and 32gb ran

Same bruhh but i am happy with this 😊

I have the same problem. Its bcs of your motherboard. try to get mobo with z68/z77 chip than u will be able to overclock your cpu.

@@Daro_D thanks, should I get a ddr4 compatible motherboard or do you think ddr5 would be worth it for future proofing purposes?

That exactly what happens when you upgrade to more modern cpu. As long as the threads are the same you only get a small inc in frame rates. This is because the games these days are mostly gpu bound, esp on 1080p plus high settings. The gpu upgrade and Not the cpu upgrade is what will drive it. Once games will start t9 utilise 10+ cores these older cpus will run out of puff.

@@downundergarage6968 thanks for clearing that up 😊 I do 2k gaming on a 2060 so my gpu is the bottleneck for sure.

I really don't even notice screen tearing much and my FreeSync is off afaik, which to be fair I often have vsync on just because idgaf about throttling a game to 75 or 60fps because most of my games are backlog and new sale pickups now so why would I run my graphics card into the ground trying to render a 2009 game at 300fps+ I think it has more to do with the idiocy of esports and Fortnite/PUBG kiddies going all "nah I only lost because I had 90 fps and he could shoot faster" like kiddo, you just suck. I may not play much per genre so it's not often affecting me, but I just don't see a huge difference between 60 and 75fps for example, and like you I played stuff where 30fps was "normal" so to me it's not even worth going for 144hz, in fact it took me awhile even to notice BF:GA was locked at 60fps by the engine cap, which apparently Unreal engine has a 60 frames cap by default the devs left on, and tbh I probably wouldn't even have noticed much if it weren't for Adrenalin giving me average fps when I close a game. Resolution, otoh, I notice f'ing immediately, and am now a res snob to the point where 1080p looks like complete ass and I won't be satisfied until all jaggies and aliasing disappears.

That is not normal. You must have a very slow gpu to not see a performance difference. 5600x should boost fps by a lot

@@SpeedRebirth both benchmark using rx580 8gb and run 3times per benchmark. gpu usage is above 95% on every benchmark, maybe because not every games use all those core. while i7 3770k oc use old overclock methods, all core 4.5ghz 2000mhz cl10 ram, while ryzen 5 5600x use PBO2 min range 3.9ghz to 4.85ghz with 3600mhz ram cl16

@@hebecookies Did you reinstall windows after the platform change? Not good to keep the old OS when changing basically all hardware. But if you did all benchmarking on Ultra then yeah, a 580 aint that fast

@@SpeedRebirth yup its clean install after i change to b550 mobo, ddr4 ram and ryzen cpu.. everything remain the same except cpu, ram, mobo and overclocking methods.. benchmark setting is the same too