Can This 400+ HP Ford Focus ST Actually Beat an RS?! | The $15,000 Difference
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After getting behind the wheel of a modified Ford Focus RS, we were curious as to how a Focus ST would handle similar power, delivered only to the front wheels. Costing an additional $15,000 the Focus RS definitely has features that appeal to the true automotive enthusiast but today we take a look at what is possible when you take the Focus ST savings and create some modifications of your own.
One thing is for certain, this is the fastest FWD car we have ever filmed!
Build List.
Garrett GTX2867R
Cobb stage 3
M factory limited slip
Spec clutch
AEM watermeth kit
Injen cat back exhaust
GReddy down pipe
Tial bov
Nitto nt05 tires
TSW Nurmbergring wheels
Built and tuned by Evolution Performance.
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"We race because we're not allowed to go to war."
@Bsmitty358 6 жыл бұрын
If you thought mustangs were crowd killers, wait till this comes out of a cars and coffee with that torque steer.
@xman10490 6 жыл бұрын
actually not that much torque steer, i have a 330hp Fiesta ST and it rides straight under acceleration
@woody555kl 6 жыл бұрын
Fit a proper quaife lsd and you dont need to worry. Wheres the comparison this video stated?
@michaelreitz6838 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2017 Focus ST and there is virtually no torque steer. The only way the steering wheel jerks to the side when you accelerate is when. You arent holding the steering wheel at all.
@greenespirit4973 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Reitz torque vectoring goes to work on these cars
@MrMrl69 6 жыл бұрын
Uhhh...wut? I have a 2018 and there is torque steer. You must not get on it.
@zeffffffff 6 жыл бұрын
So... where's the ST vs RS footage the title clickbaited me with?
@JahyMoonwalker 6 жыл бұрын
right? what a waste of time. get some performance numbers at a track! at the end of the day it is still a wrong wheel drive and will not compare with the RS. how fast is that car 0-60/0-100? how's the cornering with the better tires?
@chazdills8675 6 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Was thinking about trading my ST for an RS but this video did nothing for me lol
@RoadsUntraveled 6 жыл бұрын
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@chazdills8675 6 жыл бұрын
Roads Untraveled the video you linked is to a video you made of a modified RS. If this video was to answer the question “is a modified ST better/faster than an RS?” Then my question is what benefit would it be for us to see a review of a modded RS?
@jtspiky 6 жыл бұрын
so where does the title state it's going toe to toe with an RS ?
@WHUCKAWHACKA 5 жыл бұрын
He doesnt actuallly race a focus rs just talks the whole time.
@najirmoore6491 3 жыл бұрын
Saved me time
@ethanconnor7530 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@RoadsUntraveled 6 жыл бұрын
If you haven't seen our Ford Focus RS video check it out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fsyTrahnzcCxZ3k.html
@jackmmarsden 3 жыл бұрын
Does he ever talk about the mods and pros and cons? All I hear is “it just feels amazing and sounds great.”
@bigwillchill 6 жыл бұрын
your title is misleading
@21April853BC 6 жыл бұрын
I have a daily driver Ford F-150 ecoboost single cab regular bed truck and I love it and the other Fords are also great. My heart is with my sr20det powered Nissan 240sx but the Focus ST and RS are so beautiful.
@cskudda 6 жыл бұрын
Your editing is going to another level.👍👍
@magicalminis597 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I liked the intro and the video overall. I for one did not click on this looking for a drag race video like most others assumed. I've driven an ST1 for the last 5 years. I will say I should have gotten the ST3 with the Recaros.
@DucaKings 6 жыл бұрын
Basically same setup as mine. I'm running a gtx 2867r gen 2 and pushing 375 fwhp on e30. Very fun and definitely way worth the money for the big turbo vs the stock. Makes the car much more drivable.
@treydelagarza9569 5 жыл бұрын
Not trying to hate but it’s sucks you had to go e30 to make that power I can’t do anything other then 93 or I’ll make to much power and blow my motor 2014 gen owner
@blueridge8992 6 жыл бұрын
Good sound on this video man. The mix is perfect.
@VEDEMRACING99 6 жыл бұрын
The production quality!
@GregStelmach 6 жыл бұрын
Im getting my focus st in two weeks same color cant freaking wait !!!
@jeremycastro2491 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a 2016 st just with the cobb stage 1 living in California I don’t want to do to much but even with the simple stuff it is a good platform for the money and a great daily
@BoostedMK6 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I have a MK6 GTI with the same turbo making 485hp. Great little turbo.
@haranv10 5 жыл бұрын
Best focus st review in KZfaq!
@1Steph 6 жыл бұрын
Image quality on point!!!!! Well done
@Big_Black_Dick 6 жыл бұрын
that's hilarious, now i have to start listening to ur podcast lol
@MrSwayzy 4 жыл бұрын
1:31 camera man in the background walking like a grandma 😂
@BrandonCardoso12 6 жыл бұрын
All these people commenting gti is better and lighter and blah blah blah. Sure it may be faster stock turbo and mod for mod can’t knock it there. However, the focus st is cheaper to buy and maintain and also is WAYYY more fun to drive than the gti. The gti is bland and not nearly as playful as the ST which makes it fun and entertaining, where the gti is just bleh. I guess different strokes for different folks but I’d rather have the more involving and entertaining car.
@usernamealreadytaken770 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The GTI fanboys are annoying.
@BrandonCardoso12 6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Wu definitely not knocking the mk7 gti because they’re damn fast with minimal mods, but they’re just boring to drive imo. I’ve driven quite a few and used to have a FBO e30 tuned focus ST myself and even though it may have been like a car length or two slower to 120mph from a roll it was still so much more fun. Probably would’ve eaten the gti up on a track which is what they were designed for lol
@usernamealreadytaken770 6 жыл бұрын
Chasing Adventures Only in the US. The Focus and Fiesta are still available in Europe.
@StandAloneState 6 жыл бұрын
Chasing Adventures I have a Fist and I freaking love it. I had a buddy show me a consumer report of a Fiesta and told me they're not highly regarded or highly rated but I let him know the ST is totally different. That German engineering
@6thGenRacing 6 жыл бұрын
Brandon Cardoso Well said, i honestly agree with you in the aspect of fun, but he said it in the video, its still an american hatchback, all the interior is cheap. I would rather live with my more expensive refined german car. Which if you put it on even lowering springs and an anti roll bar in the rear, is just as playful in the corners at a focus st, guaranteed. And this guy has probably spent about $5000 in mods to get this car to 360whp, where the same amount of money could get my car up to the neighborhood of 470whp. In the grand scheme of things, volkswagen is better.
@someonewhoisntme6163 4 жыл бұрын
The c5 reference? I always watch these reviews. I had to exit out on that reference lol. I’ll come back for another vid soon.
@jimmy92goodwin 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing production!
@2AMech 5 жыл бұрын
I had those rims on my old regular mazda 3 in gunmetal grey!! they're my fav of all time. gonna get them on my speed 3 soon
@KnightRiderDDR 6 жыл бұрын
I was expecting head to head battle between the ST and RS. "Son, I'm disappoint."
@n0w3lly90 3 жыл бұрын
First thing you should do before putting any extra power in the ST is replacing the open differential with a Quaife or M-Factory ATB limited slip diff. It sorts out the torque steer and front traction very well indeed. Also, on mine, I upgraded the flywheel and clutch to the RS spec ones which are rated at 600NM of torque. The standard ST ones are much less than that
@loueb4 2 жыл бұрын
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@n0w3lly90 2 жыл бұрын
@@loueb4 no worries fella. It really does make a remarkable amount of difference, I mean that! Before I had the diff I found the torque steer mildly terrifying at times - after the diff, it was as if it was nearly all gone, and, front end traction was HUGELY improved as well. I changed out the clutch and flywheel at the same time given that having the transmission taken off and looked at is expensive... so killed two birds with one stone without attracting any extra labour after the gearbox had been separated from the engine 😉 also, now my power is up over 290bhp... the diff is still just as effective as when the power was down at 250bhp
@mediocrefloridaman Жыл бұрын
How hard was the install? Or how much did you pay to have it installed? Thank you!
@frogsta360 Жыл бұрын
@@mediocrefloridaman I literally just had mine done in Austalia. Clutch kit 1.8k, LSD 1.2k, install 1.5k. 4.5k all up, I imagine US probs be like 3 or less?
@orangejjay Жыл бұрын
Also: DISABLE THE PDC USING FORSCAN. Most of the ST's torque steer can be fixed with that being disabled.
@charlesonuoha5504 6 жыл бұрын
Question about the mount you used for DSLR camera, where did you get that mount is it custom?
@nigolt.4345 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!!!!
@RoninZulu 6 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is how you make a video about the Focus ST! Boss move kid!
@austinalford51 6 жыл бұрын
I miss mine a bit such a good handling car sold it for my g35 twin turbo it's getting work done.
@JP-uk9uc 5 жыл бұрын
Love the fact I bought my 2016 ST3 for $18500 used with only 3000 miles on it. Works perfectly. Pilot Sport 4S. Amazing daily driver. Only down side is the insanely small gas tank. I found that ethanol free fuel gets 4-7 mpg better along with no misfires. Ethanol fuel absolutely causes misfire, esp when cold and at idol. To get rid of the drone, delete the sound symposer. So much better.
@jdjew4003 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! First other person to enjoy that gas tank! Lol
@reecejones1248 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t even buy an st3 with 3000 let alone for 18k it’s like 26k now probably
@AaronAL59 2 жыл бұрын
Lucky I bought my 2017 st3 58,000 in this shit market for 21,000
@mlukubone7134 4 жыл бұрын
Looks sooo good 🥰
@MrBillrookard 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah - those Recaros are -very- comfy. I love mine in my 2016 ST.
@jasonray2526 5 жыл бұрын
Go test drive the 2019 Fiesta ST that is actually the last of the ST lines for the United States and give a review of your thoughts on it
@wojciechkrynski6312 2 жыл бұрын
Hello can you tell me what kind rims you have and where can I buy that I like to buy the same like yours thank you
@zackmandarino1021 6 жыл бұрын
im dealing with this same decision. i own a 2013 st 4 more years till payed off but i cant decide if i want to pay it off few years early trade it in for an rs or modify the st
@Paper.Power.Politics 2 жыл бұрын
The focus ST has the better engine , specially for performance! Now if you use the 2.0 ST block with 2.3 internals and a 2.3 cylinder head you have yourself a super monster on the street !
@mediocrefloridaman Жыл бұрын
Is that what the 2.3 stroker kit is?
@Paper.Power.Politics Жыл бұрын
@@mediocrefloridaman yes
@ludicrous9696 Жыл бұрын
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@Panthera100 5 жыл бұрын
Like for the editing
@VoxVirtus86 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2016 ST3 focus ( Fully leather recaros etc..) over and RS because I felt like I was frankly getting 80% of the car for $10k less. I don't regret it at all, considering the 2.0 block is closed deck and doesn't have the reliability issues of the RS. Also - stop with the torque steer, it's hardly even noticeable unless the road surface is really uneven, in my experience
@Paper.Power.Politics 2 жыл бұрын
Boom!! Someone knows what they are talking about!! The 2.0ST block is much better then the 2.3block, and the ST platform has a lot more after market and performance potential then the 2.3 by far! The RS is definitely a rip off compared to ST , only thing RS has that it has going for it is the AWD
@stephenoverstreet9898 6 жыл бұрын
Those Recaros look very similar in construction (not necessarily finish) to those in the hot Audis from a few years ago (S4, RS4). That drone would get old in about 2.2 minutes though.
@khalidkhalifa4975 6 жыл бұрын
Need more😍😍
@nastynick886 4 жыл бұрын
How do you get the power down
@josh-yw2vh 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what year the st is
@vtrhugo 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Focus's fan, however this car I loved
@alloutdestruction3217 3 жыл бұрын
im concerned with hearing on a stage 3 cobb tune... doesnt sound like its big turbo... sooooooooo how is it making 360 wheel?
@dariusholt678 4 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by compromise anything but the exhaust?
@1970borntorun 4 жыл бұрын
You should have gotten the Mountune Exhaust, dude. No drone like COBB and just as much power ;)
@MrMrl69 6 жыл бұрын
On a side note; beautiful countryside. Where was this filmed?
@parrishwl 6 жыл бұрын
that filming / editing is fkkn amazing ! love the intro a lot
@Wvcountrykid 2 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of it
@xuk 4 жыл бұрын
Just want know what gas pedal spacer it use, very good position.
@windseer321 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t have a spacer on it.
@recaanharb 6 жыл бұрын
So what do you guys think? The Focus ST or the Fiesta ST? I can't decide!
@shawngarrison6936 6 жыл бұрын
Recaan Harb do you need the rear doors? That's the ?
@usernamealreadytaken770 6 жыл бұрын
Focus ST because it’s not that much more expensive, especially since dealers give good deals on them where they’re close to price of a Fiesta.
@recaanharb 6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Wu yeah true. But in the used market, they're practically fiestas away. And they're rockets in a bottle.
@recaanharb 6 жыл бұрын
Shawn Garrison not really tbh. And the fiesta is still practical but not as much as the focus.
@ikebuttle360 6 жыл бұрын
Recaan Harb fiesta for sure, get the 3 door one
@thatpersiandude7386 6 жыл бұрын
Bro you deserve way More views
@RoadsUntraveled 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the compliment, if you enjoy the video please share the link on social media as it helps us reach new viewers.
@amazingvideogames3418 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the exhaust system size?
@Pii-RuCryptoCuhThroat 3 жыл бұрын
Basically have the same setup down the the turbo and ya its amazing but you can't beat AWD, which I loved in a prior Sti and WRX I've owned.
@Toyota4Life 6 жыл бұрын
Single turbo IS300. is300 very underrated platform. Try to get your hands on one for a review. 2jz plus manual plus RWD...
@mattb4rd Жыл бұрын
Holy crap. I want one.
@danielwhite4084 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought an '18 ST3 for 23k. Super excited to get her to 400.
@mynameactuallyisjeff9002 5 жыл бұрын
What exact type of st is that?
@builtsubarusti7408 6 жыл бұрын
Any idea on what wheels and what exhaust it's running.
@henryM22x 6 жыл бұрын
Carl Maratta listed in the description :)
@BryceandKyle 6 жыл бұрын
So is it a stock turbo? No way the stock turbo can reach 360whp, they're only good for 290whp max.
@mikelbring 6 жыл бұрын
Same thought.
@TrueDreams 6 жыл бұрын
I thought these were 300whp max with meth. And it's also only got a 2.5 inch down pipe and maybe a catted down pipe also? Maybe he meant close to 360bhp but More like 333bhp.
@mikelbring 6 жыл бұрын
It's been awhile since I've been in a focus st but the turbo does sound like it spools a little slower than stock so many it is a upgraded one.
@BryceandKyle 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, you can really push it to that with just an ethanol blend if you want but it's kind of pointless. I know JST tuning made 306whp on their track car, to actually make that power you kind of need all the right conditions (Close to sea level, cool weather..). These small turbos have no more efficiency above 290whp & end up with a dead top end because the turbo has nothing more to give.
@isabelle.c011 6 жыл бұрын
I have an st and I’m part of many st groups no way stock turbo makes 360hp and 2.5” dp to 3” exhaust so stock dp 360 torque maybe
@MRR7 6 жыл бұрын
Them transitions
@markfelder4819 6 жыл бұрын
What turbo does this car have? I have a stage 3 2014 e30 tuned and the stock k03 maxes out at just shy of 300 whp wmi or not. Also if the exhaust is turbo back it’s a 3” downpipe not 2.5”. You should have hooned a bit more. The lift off oversteer is trademark for the focus st. The car rotates beautifully.
@shouldntbepublic2925 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, I got a good friend in Baton Rouge with a 2.5 inch downpipe with an adapter going to a 3 inch exhaust
@imfraeglasgow 6 жыл бұрын
Ayy I got the same shift knob.
@AdigaNart1 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what exhaust that is?
@windseer321 4 жыл бұрын
Injen catback exhaust GReddy catless DP
@evanch123456 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job editing.
@baxinst4102 Жыл бұрын
Cobb stage 3 tune? big turbo did i hear that right or was that a mistake
@isaiahdominguez9526 6 жыл бұрын
Exhaust?
@ej1_mal299 5 жыл бұрын
You can do low 13 high 12s with a stock turbo bigger turbo definitely low 12s maybe high 11s
@JeremyD81 4 жыл бұрын
Only reason I looked at the comments was to find this reply. I laughed when he said low 13 high 12s.
@danielboxall8496 5 жыл бұрын
I have not look after my van as should but cars I have done
@krcjeep1 6 жыл бұрын
Those wheels are sweet
@nightstalker824 6 жыл бұрын
Cool car. I'm really loving these hot hatches from Ford. With that said, do these exhaust systems really add much hp. If it didn't hinder performance too much, I personally would do stock or mild exhaust. I think they sound awful with crazy loud exhaust. Like an angry fart coming down the road.
@blueridge8992 6 жыл бұрын
On some cars the exhaust is very restrictive but that's becoming less common on modern performance cars. On the Focus ST the stock exhaust is just fine until you start getting at or above 400 horsepower and you see no performance improvement by changing the exhaust on an otherwise stock ST. I've left the stock muffler on my '17 ST and just removed the factory resonator for slightly more growl (look up "Focus ST resonator delete" on YT for an example). I didn't want it too loud because I prefer to hear the turbo spooling and bypass valves PSHHH on this car much more. Helps to stay stealth when you have a little fun out on the road too. Being a quiet Gray Focus hatchback, cops never give my car a second look.
@MrDavidelliottjr 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice car.
@TheDustyaman 6 жыл бұрын
KZfaq once again took away the notification button. Had to rehit it again.
@khalidkhalifa4975 6 жыл бұрын
Love this cAr
@S3by200 5 жыл бұрын
You say it can beat an RS with almost half the price but you don’t say how much money was invested in it and how useless is the power considering torque steer
@-.__.__.-Rad 5 жыл бұрын
or how it handles, or how reliable that power is, or how that power gets put down (my guess not as well as the awd in RS). I drive my ST knowing the RS is the better setup. Thats why the 35k MSRP. I'm ok with it:)
@windseer321 4 жыл бұрын
There’s zero torque steer, it handles great just like a stock ST does around corners but better as I’ve added a full damond motor mount kit and tb performance traction bars. I have injen2 255 35r 18 tires and they hook decently first isn’t that great though. The car has been re tuned by a man named Brian Tyson at JST performance in the UK. It now makes more power than when I got it but I haven’t dyno’d it. I was not the original owner of this car.
@ricardomedina449 6 жыл бұрын
I love that shift knob where can I get it
@lukea435 4 жыл бұрын
RICARDO MEDINA cj pony parts of you haven’t found it already, I love mine
@zachlandry4575 4 жыл бұрын
What rims are those
@lajoskiss9147 5 жыл бұрын
Wich year?
@frogsta360 Жыл бұрын
FYI Tuned ST (250-270fwhp) will sit neck and neck with a stock RS - on a roll. Extra weight and drivetrain loss doesn't help the RS even with 350bhp. Vid on my channel
@JacobNykiel 6 жыл бұрын
Will you guys do a Saab 9-3 Turbo X review? Preferably one with more power? Saab’s are amazing cars.
@megolito961 4 жыл бұрын
every saab ive ever been in smell the exact same. and i ran a valet company for maybe 6 years so ive been in alot. all of them smell like leather gloves. rly good. i drove a turbo X and took it out for maybe 15 minutes and it was a really fun car. it wasnt fast fast by any means but it had plenty of power for what it does. great car
@chucka187 6 жыл бұрын
Awd vs fwd mmmm tuff one lol.
@bohdankutiepov3870 3 жыл бұрын
What wheels are those?
@corail53 4 жыл бұрын
Being a BC car - I bet this thing has gotten VI'd by now for the noise. VPD is on a blitz right now. Sick car though - would love to build something similar.
@305dadecounty305 3 жыл бұрын
Does the RS have an open deck engine?
@jacobespejo5805 Жыл бұрын
What year is this car?
@jessebudelman 5 жыл бұрын
I have an ST2 Focus, bought it with 77 miles and within 1 year i put on 43k Miles....it’s just too damn fun!!!
@Racer-M 4 жыл бұрын
This is my exact car 😘😘😘 402a package and all. He trys to hate on this car but you just cant.
@Godzukidan 6 жыл бұрын
Exhaust sounds a little to ricer. I would go with Borla. My 2016 ST is a blast to drive and it only has Roush CAI and Fswerks shift bracket. Stock tune so far.
@greenespirit4973 6 жыл бұрын
Godzukidan It has 0 rice to it the exhaust setup on that st sounds amazing
@bigmotoxer 5 жыл бұрын
What short-shifter do you have?
@windseer321 4 жыл бұрын
There was a Cobb shift plate but I took that garbage off
@jackmmarsden 3 жыл бұрын
Stock brakes with a 400hp front wheel drive hatch? First thing I did to my st was upgrade to the rs brembo brakes
@n0w3lly90 2 жыл бұрын
Only necessary if you are on track or regularly caning it and hard braking 😉 I'm running near 300bhp, and the existing brake set up is fine. The mechanical limited slip diff and performance upgrades I had slashed 0-60 down to a measured 5.2 seconds, which is a 1.3 sec improvement
@omarlekphet 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry as I am watching this but I wanna know if its forged internal
@windseer321 4 жыл бұрын
Nope stock internals 36k Kms as of June 1st 2020
@txcavi 6 жыл бұрын
Thought you were going to race. Sad, still like your show
@WVUBostonGeorge 6 жыл бұрын
Can anybody tell me what wheels are on that ST? They look dope
@MaverickCombat1 6 жыл бұрын
TSW Nurburgring in matte bronze
@CloroxBleach-cq7tj 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a patreon, or somewhere we can support the channel??
@RoadsUntraveled 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Clorox Bleach! Glad you enjoy the videos :) While we don't have a Patreon, we do have a few super cool merch items and engine code key tags on our store. Roadsuntraveled.com/shop
@dawidkrakus3597 4 жыл бұрын
What engine that car have??
@carlosgodinez2545 6 жыл бұрын
Mazdaspeed 3 the best hatch mainly cause of the torque steer makes them fun to drive
@jb6574 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jimmywen2105 6 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that ford discontinued fost and fist. Used to Owned a fist and was a blast to drive .
@jamesmcclendon3932 5 жыл бұрын
There are still a lot of options the RS has over a mod/tuned ST. For example, the RS's suspension in sport and track mode is awesome! WHen you shift to track mode the car's pc engage and hypes everything up including the throttle. When driving and switching to track mode I can feel the throttle jumps with a boost of power! The mod/tuned ST will never match the Drift Mode that the RS has! This is the secret weapon that Golf R, STI, and Type R can only stand on the sideline and envy! Just think if the Golf R and Type R added a Drift Mode, Can you imagine the increase in the price! Ford did it and without it being pricey! Save the thousands you would spend to buy a Focus ST-3 and buy a base model RS. To be honest, the RS is just like any car that may not be affordable for some people, but that no reason to trash it by calling it too expensive! If the RS is in your price range, get it! Trust me, you totally love it!
@adamneill9237 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, I'll stick with my $18,375 '18 ST1 and will do complete suspension & sway bar upgrade. Big turbo & e30 tune. I might be at $25k all in.
@Offenberg89 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Ford makes nice vehicles.
@Leeoh949 6 жыл бұрын
What year is this focus
@windseer321 4 жыл бұрын
2017
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