The cake is a lie The cake is a lie The cake is a lie The cake is a lie

You should listen to that Weird Al Yankovic song. It's all about the Pentiums, baby. I think he says I have a 1 GHz CPU. What kind of chip do you have under the hood, a Doritos?

Any flashy effects from those?

You could modify the BASIC rom to do that, or make a 4066 module that screws it up. Or replace video ram with a microcontroller..

I bet that chip went over to the LGBTQ side...

I shove my RAM and Cache DIPS into my drywall in my basement above my workbench. There's even a 386 CPU in there. One day, if I get enough, I want to arrange them in a 12x12 tile and install it somewhere on my floor.

pun intended here, I guess

Ba-dum tssssssss

SID will happily eat those chips with DIP

This comment deserves more than 38 likes surely?

I knew that was coming sooner or later! How about chip off the old block as well. We chip you chip we all chip for something. I'll chip in on that one. When the chips are down. When all the chips are on the table or in the oven in this case. Ziff socket da a chip a da. Not so obscure Disney reference there. I know there could be haters on that one but just I think what you want it's a matter of personal opinion of course just like any comment should be taken there's always going to be those people or that person I don't think I've seen you at least one channel and seen one of those people at least a few times! And then there's that person that tries to find something bad every single comment even when there is one word or even a? Or something like that don't be that guy the world is bad enough now as it is if you know what I'm saying need I say more that answer is no

So you’re saying his PPBus is hot?

Well these arent flipchips (which was louise's main argument against baking cards) so it should be ok.

Supposedly Intel considered doing the erase process with x rays and then a high temp bake to reverse that damage, but it was decided the quartz window and a germicidal lamp was easier to deal with.

I recently read about flash memory that incorporates built-in heating elements to anneal the memory cells, making them work again after they've worn out. I think they got something like a 10× increase in lifespan from that. It's not the same failure mode (crystal defects in the insulator vs. electromigration), but the same fix works on it.

@@IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT I read about thermally erased flash memory as a concept, but to my knowledge it's never been commercialized. Planned obsolescence much?

@@nyanpasu64 maybe they couldn’t get it to work?

I guess it's sort of like putting yellowed plastic cases in the sun for bleaching.

It does sound weird, when you leave out the "biased" / "non biased" (electrical current / charge applied or not applied) info tid bit. Funny how 'details' can be important to one's perspective or understanding.

Good points and I didn't realize the wafers were from two places only. Good to know! It's odd how most MOS chips made at the same time as the PLA are fine but the PLA is so unbelievably unreliable now.

@@adriansdigitalbasement in researching this myself (I found this fascinating), I found guidance from your least favorite vintage chipmaker, Micron Technology, on baking chips to fix them. I thought you'd find that amusing. Interestingly, they repeat JEDEC standards, which suggests baking chips at 125 degrees C for 8 hours in most cases, or in some rare cases, 24 hours. The reason for this is to bake off accumulated moisture. Time to extract those hated MT memory chips from the dead parts bin?

You really think the Koreans knows all the complex steps of how to manufacture these ICs, but at the same time don't know how to handle them properly? Speaking about Bill Herd, MOS/Commodore had an unusually primitive process and problems with contamination and low precision, that's the primary reason why many ICs in Commodore computers frequently fail.

@@herrbonk3635 I’m assuming that’s how he knew how they could be made more fragile/brittle by mishandling! And no, of course as a matter of course they knew that they were doing, but it’s always possible a small batch had an accident, but then tested good and was sold. Failing after 30-40 years is nowhere near “defective” for sales purposes, given the projected lifetimes of the machines.

@@herrbonk3635 There's a large cost associated with proper handling of ESD sensitive devices, it could be some upper management people that though that skimping on handling the chips properly was a good idea, as long as the chips handles the QA test, they can break later...

Better yet if all else fails get a bigger hammer or a hammermill either one. Either or a piece of drill Rod or even just a metal rod about 1/8 inch or so in diameter lamp in a drill press preferably more like a high-speed router motor or Dremel or perhaps a PC board drill machine of some description lower into the center of the ship housing keep going until said metal rod comes out of other side there you go non-working chip very effective for destroying a ship in a piece of equipment that you have to go gree to destroy before salvaging and also take multiple cuts at random angles across circuit boards and anything left in a piece more than a few inches It's Hammer Time. Pretty much yes that would do it yeah I had a few of those Savages more than a few over the days that I used to more than a few over over the old years I used to do stuff like that. Yes had to sign an agreement that whatever it was had to be destroyed in a way that it could never be resold put back together excetera or at least anything that could be reused in that equipment to repair 04 whatever or be reused in its original application yep sometimes had a little fun with it to of course. One-time put about 50 some odd bowls possibly closer to do you need to a hundred or more I crossed the B 4.5 volts or upwards of a voltage at quite a few amps yep nice big let out the Magic Smoke. What else is fun take any component that's read 12 volts as long as it does not provide a direct short when it goes 220 / 208 instead of anywhere from lesson 5 to Route 44 voles or maybe more DC nice Pop Fizz bang possibly even a topless chip yep that happened once that was kind of cool didn't expect it again it was something that had to be destroyed first made non operational permanently did this of course after Salvage what was allowed to be that is. Also I do remember sometimes if you run enough voltage sometimes even as little as 9 or 12 volts to some LEDs of course without pumping resistors sometimes either you get a nice physical a pop or crack little crack in the ID and of course Magic Smoke and other times half the LED would be blown off or the end of the old lady would be actually blown off completely. I don't exactly remember how I discovered this thing happening once but I discovered if a magnetic Reed switch a magnet was placed just right spot I think I was trying to do a latching magnetic switch with the opposite polarity to release it if I'm not mistaken when I ran across this? But under the right conditions in the circuit although this won't go for long obviously because of disintegrated and white of her contacts of course what if it's up just right and the right conditions happen godanriver how or what or how or whatever the contacts would start oscillating what are off rapidly and yes quite a bit of blue light as well but basically would act like just a regular relay as a buzzer except there was no coil involved it was just because of magnetism and all it's possible that the contacts got hot enough that they temporarily lose their magnetism for Split Second but I don't know exactly what was causing it but it would act like a relay or a buzzard and oh yeah a lot a lot of radio frequency interference add just up until the contacts were no good was one of those for the weird things that I discovered by accident it's possible I had problems with the circuitry and some of that contri don't know if I was able to reproduce this or not didn't have me Maniac switches I want the waste trying it though so yeah it was kind of expensive at that time. I only had a handful of them probably.

might destroy the microwave! seriously, pins will get hot, possibly spark and melt through plastic in the interior. Or so I was told...

Good way to destroy SD cards when you hear heavy knocks at your door... lol

Be careful... If there is not enough wave absorbing material in the microwave too much of the rays may go back into the emitter and destroy it. Melting through the bottom - I think that's no danger as usually the turntable is made of glass and the objects are far away from the walls which are usually made of steel too (often painted white). Always at least put a glass of water with a spoon in it into the microwave when running it. The spoon is to prevent delayed cooking. When there is no object in the water it may "explode" as the boiling bubbles may not form at 100°C and the boiling may actually start at a much higher temperature.

Yeah you were talking about superheated water in the microwave that Yoda II that gets Disturbed basically explodes instead of just boiling. Yes can confirm this is a thing I know someone that it happened to fortunately no injury they happened to jar to microwave and that's what caused the water to go instead of when they tried to take it out why that happened to someone instead of what could've under the right circumstances. Also this is covered in MythBusters as well we actually had a thing about microwave ovens in science class as well as well as I did some Demos in class you know experiments for extra credit although I didn't need it! I did get a lot of extra credit in a lot of classes sometimes just talk to the teacher but something interesting and they said you know that could be an extra credit project even where you would normally not do projects or things like that in school classes. Also found out in shop class when I was doing personal projects which I had access to the facilities and or repairs for anyting even if Donna shop or late in Hindi I was getting extra credit kind of surprised but still cool.

Soon on Adrian's Digital 420 Kitchen - Edible chips with some secret sauce...

Can "cleaner" current (so from better power supply) slow this process?

@@warrax111 Sorry for taking so long to get back to you! I don't think hot carrier injection (the process) is really affected by variations in the potential across the gate. The process is more that some charge carriers are "hot" in that they have more thermal energy and that there is a distribution of energy across all the charge carriers. Think Maxell-Boltzmann style curves (although I think this is more of a Fermi-Dirac distribution -- details are a bit irrelevant) where some electrons (or ions) are just moving quickly. The odds of this occurring are reduced at lower temperatures, of course.

@@andrewhughes7195 So they should be fine if you just operate the chips at liquid helium temperatures?

@@brianclimbs1509 elevated temperatures are known to shorten device lifetimes. HCI is one of those mechanisms that is temperature dependent. There have been attempts to operate CMOS devices at cryogenic temperatures (liquid nitrogen) but this was for performance not reliability. Liquid Helium would seem … extreme. I suspect that some other effects would come in to play that would prevent to devices from functioning at all. Also, I don’t really think anything can repair damage that is already done.

@Mr Guru As you said in another comment chain: Solder doesn’t melt at 150°C. @Jeffery Hahn Baking chips is a temporary fix so I’m not surprised that it broke again after a few weeks.

Actually, I'd expect it to be rather warmer? lol

They call crisps chips in the US. So it's more likely they would dip them in salsa :)

@@6581punk by the way that brings up something interesting and not having to do with computer chips actually. but actual quote on quote what people would call chips. The sea is most chips here in the United States are actually called chips as far as I'm aware at least they can be cold chips. But where it gets interesting is Pringles. Because of how they are made dehydrated potatoes excetera excetera excetera and so forth. Evidently they do not meet the definition of a chip according to the regulations in some way or another. Because late they are produced and what they're made from evidently they cannot be legally called chips. So that's why Pringles are actually referred to as potato crisps. Of course I'm glossing over a lot of things and just summarizing but that's from what I understand the reason why and that's why they're not called chips on the packaging. My guess is if they did it would be called false advertising but it's weird how things are with the step thing. At least sometimes. It's kind of like an old some adult beverages cannot be legally called one thing unless you're made a certain way if you know what I'm saying. I don't know enough about that and to actually even say anything about it have any accuracy since I'm not a connoisseur of that stuff and never even had one drop personal choice you know. Also along the lines of computer chips years and years and years ago even well before anyone had internet at least at home or even access to it anywhere I'd say maybe if you're military up which is where it came from. Then. Worse not internet as we know it or probably even before Phil knew what was what sign There was some stuff out there about the potential to repair computer chips Autumn molecular level using some process that could actually go in and somehow be able to normally make or break connections Etc it was so long ago I don't even remember but I just remember hearing about this possibly an article somewhere who knows this was so long ago I barely even can remember it at all. Just remember here is seeing it somewhere or hearing it actually probably both. I'm pretty sure it was some sort of laser process but is that may be inaccurate but evidently that was a thing at one time I'm pretty sure was just potential I don't know if it actually have been done but who knows it was so long ago when even know and never leak or anything about it after that so who knows

@@6581punk I feel bad for the poor British man who ordered a Burger and Chips in a US bar and they have him a large bowl of corn chips with his burger.

The roof of your mouth thanks you. You thought Doritos were bad that way?

not for Bender

Yeah exactly my thoughts as well. Just like trying to revive dead hard drives at least two point recover data or a CD that's scratched Beyond usability xcetera because chances are there's no hope in recovery it professionally if you don't have the budget but you might give it a try sometime there's all kinds of methods summer crazy and others not so much have you ever heard about trying to freeze both CDs and hard drives but never tried any of it but if it's dead anyways or it's a CD that's scratched do you know where why not

@@aaronbrandenburg2441 well with discs i have a polishing machine, i just polish it repeatedly until it either works or theirs nothing left to be sure.

@@SparksNZeros CDs you need to fill the scratches and then polish, which are like grooves if viewed under a microscope. There is a putty intended for eyeglasses that works great with fixing scratched CD's, it's been 20 years but there should be a similar product available still. If the reflective (label) side is scratched though, it's game over.

This is a very reliable fix for the PS3 red ring of death.. As a motherboard reflux, I had place a motherboard in a preheated oven, then brought temp up to about 400° then allow it to cool in the oven overnight.. it was successful but repair didn't last

Yeah i can imagine that it might work on whole circuit boareds where some of the solder joints are a bit iffy; solitary chips on the other hand, not so much.

Bring an ASUS Motherboard and a Grafikcard XFX back to life again. For 1 Hour at 110 C ! 2 of 6 tries in the early 2000 !!!

I doubt it. If i understand correctly its an alloying process, so instead of semiconductor-semiconductor, you get an alloy at the junction and that disrupts the function of the part until its unusable. Thats why silicon diodes fail in a short circuit because you have a P and a N touching but when they alloy you get a neutral piece of silicon so it just conducts because it cant generate the depletion layer to stop the flow. Electromigration causes atoms to shift, so overtime they mix with whatever was at the other side causing problems like leakage in diodes or making transistors work outside their specifications

@@laharl2k Damn. That's a bummer man. But it's interesting to know

@@laharl2k So basically an internal short.

@@parad0xheart sure, but you are still talking about 10nm process chips....like its quite hard to reverse engineer that without super high precision equipment. And you shouldnt see much of a difference but everything just being a few atoms thick, not sure if that would hold true at that scale. Maybe it so prominent vs normal transistors that the issue becomes aparent at "plain sight"

@@laharl2k at this point in history (late 70’s early 80’s) all that was required for reverse engineering was an optical microscope and submicron tech was a dream, and a distant one at that. You are correct in that Modern chips are practically impossible to reverse engineer. Hopefully I understood your comment properly, feel free to correct me if I didn’t!

Check out Jan Beta's latest vid, he tries out a modern replacement with encouraging results ... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNqghceHudusgas.html www.retrocomp.cz/produkt?id=2

@@gb7767 perhaps some wave put a link two. Video in here somewhere please I'm sure other people would appreciate that because as you know newest does not stay new for a walk and I course daily by the time somebody sees his comments or yours Toby long long time ago if you know I'm saying so wink would be appreciated I'm sure I'm not the only one that would appreciate it

@@aaronbrandenburg2441 done, the ARMSID is a available at www.retrocomp.cz

Maybe if the tray was electrically insulated and the atmosphere was flooded with nitrogen, more testing required. Paint on a thin layer of "waterglass" (aka Sodium Silicate) and you have a heatproof electrical isolation.

Yeah, that tends to be related to solder, very different from many IC problems.

All they need is a good camp fire cooking...

Hotboxing with Rifa

You like to live dangerously, don't you Catriona?

@@BertGrink Totally :)

@@catriona_drummond Kewl! 😁

I second that and third it and so on I was wondering if he had more than one Dead part Ben even to tell you the truth. Any adult Lego fans out there might know about that one person on KZfaq brick tzar and the Boneyard AKA broken Lego or damaged Lego parts he handles same kind of thing. But no not in the oven that would be a very very bad idea but I was referring to the dead Parts Ben. Yes I know I spelled that wrong but Google before you say anything about it. But but he did say it is videos brakes aren't any of said he never throws away a bad or damaged broken Xterra Lego Park although sometimes they can be useful for some things occasionally or if you're not purest modifications which I'm not 100% of purest but I tried to be closed when it can be done with what I have in terms of parts and what exists in the Lego Universe but there are some things you're out price range or other things that would not be practical but maybe in the future would be possible either with you parts or perhaps getting a hold of Parts they don't make anymore AKA perhaps Bricklink might be of use and no I do not have an account yet waiting for approval.

My guess is that most of those chips got bad due to a short circuit which i think you can't fix by baking them. Also it's better to understand what problems baking can cure. So you also need to know what has happened with those chips in the first place.

@@Madrrrrrrrrrrr I don't expect it to make a difference at all, but it never hurts to try

No, chips go better with salsa

@@eatportchops *vinegar and fish

They are usign Fahrenheit in that link, 450 deg C is likely deadly for a chip.

Yes, it is 450 F.

All we missing is some DIP

@@lukasperuzovic1429 🤣🤣🤣 Good one! Very punny!!

Yuck

How about cinnamon and spice even better

I’ve heard cayenne and nutmeg are other well known keys to perfection. 😁

Especially superglue. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bb6Jg9F5tKrYYXk.html

@@mal2ksc Awesome

I too have commented about a video card, but this is a different concept. When baking video cards, it is to attempt to repair cold solder joints. In any case, glad for you. That is cool. My attempt was unsuccessful, as I doubt a cold solder joint was the issue in the first place.

I wonder if that Zymos was the same company which was involved in the development of pacemaker chips and which is somewhat related to the development of the Amiga.