I got my RP in 2021; if I apply today, I would only qualify for temporal. I am very comfortable with $1500/month in Morelia, few expats here.

​@@tdgdbs1What do you think of crime in Morelia? If you are white and live there you stand out.

Do you think where you live in Guadalajara is safe? As a Latino from the US you don't stand out. But as a white person you do.

Hi, I am a dual citizen and my husband is a US citizen only with permanent residency. We are interested in asking you how you like Zapopan, we are considering moving there... Chapala area is extremely saturated and the real estate market market is incredibly high. We originally arrived at Acapulco ( my place of birth) right now we're in Morelos and looking around Zapopan... Any suggestions to consider?

@@Dragon-kf5sbWe suggest looking around Providencia. The area we like the most is boarder by Av Manuel Avila Camacho, Anillo Periférico Norte, Av Adolfo López Mateos, and Av Moctezuma. With Av Patria running thru the center of that boundary.

Thanks Jon

I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!

You're welcome. Thank you very much for watching. :)

Thanks for watching!

why do you think that is? That gringo retirees have dropped off sharply recently?

Economic times means it's inflation flu hit Mexico and we felt it ! Folks who had been in Mexico a long time, with lower pension incomes and on Medicare in the US went back home. Mexico is not a bargain for anyone anymore.

@@bernie57 Market rules apply. Prices go up, demand goes down.

​​@@PhoenixwayNetthat doesn't mean prices will "crater". It just means downward pressure until it reaches equilibrium.

Wit till Trump wins…purple haired old women will be leaving the US in droves

Yes, it really has!

Thanks for watching, Sandra. I was intrigued when these numbers came out recently, and I thought others might be too.

Cabo draws a lot of weathy Americans and Canadians. They come flush with profits from Bitcoin and Nvidia. There are lots of nice places to live in Mexico if you have a limited budget. You can always visit Cabo.

How do you manage VA's appointments?

No one can. That's why we all moved here.

YES, easy. Just live like the street people in San Francisco. Or pick crops in Texas. I know a hundred Mexicans living in the USA that live on marijuana farms. They get room and board and free plant based diet. All about how you want to live. New York penthouse or free living off grid and off the land.

@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica idjut

Absolutely I can't. But I did get temporary residency for Mexico last year. I want to move there permanently in the next 2 years, early retirement 😊.

@@brendalamalfa5030That's what I did. I just wish I would have done it sooner. Buena suerte!

Don't use initials that other people don't know. If you aren't sure, Google it and see it the meaning is easily found. For people who aren't trying to impress people about your legitimacy, PDC is Playa del Carmen.

No. It is telling the US government that it is time to go after the root of the problem. Mexico is aware of being an escape valve for seniors that live on SS checks and can't afford to health care or live in the US. After the immigration talks last December in Mexico, once again, the US secretary of State said that the US is interested only on border security. Mexico again is proposing going after the root of the irregular migration, including sanctions imposed on countries like, Cuba and Venezuela, and others. The US said, no. Now, Biden is using a more strict and harsh approach (totally political - from both parties D/R-), elections are coming and he is not very popular.

@@luyzqint3760 Biden is pretending he is trying to stop immigration and says he wants to pass a law. Whatever law passes won't be enforced. We already have immigration laws which he is ignoring. That is one thing he will be impeached for.

@@luyzqint3760 Yeah, good points. I think moving there as seniors is more about rekindling excitement than living more cheaply. A lot of these seniors that like to make KZfaq videos aren't living more cheaply than they could in the US. They might claim to be, but they're really having more fun. At least that's my interpretation. And seniors have Medicare in the US. That's affordable, and with a gap plan the exposure is fairly reasonable. They can get by without having to go to a "cheaper" country to make ends meet. It's just not going to be as fun for some. I find the embargo thing confusing. I don't know enough to have a valid opinion but on the surface it seems to have more of a deleterious effect on the people of the country whom we're meant to believe it is to help by opposing these crazy governments. They obviously aren't giving up their power and vast riches to give their people freedom to prosper. It feels like the US would be doing them the biggest favor by going in and setting up a democratically run government. But then again, historically that's been screwed up as much or more than it's helped. And corruption in the US is well hidden but it seems to be coming more and more to light. And why can't the US contract manufacturing and invest in neighboring countries more than in those across the globe? Fear of nationalization of their assets? Propose contracts with the threat of military intervention should they attempt that? There's gotta be some better way of helping these countries prosper while benefiting the helper.

@@elgringoec actually, and this is something that is going to be the opposite of what you are being told: the sanctions are "supposed to be to force government change, for democracy". Reality is, the US imposed sanctions on countries that do not do as the US dictes, that's what happened in Cuba and Venezuela to use two examples. Countries are not allowed to choose their own ideology, because if they do, they will be sanction and isolated. So much for democracy. Right now, in Mexico, the US uses the USAID agency to try to change government here in Mexico, the left in Mexico is not aligned with the US interest, the right in Mexico, it's aligned with money; they will sell their mother to the US. Both, Biden and the US secretary of State have said: the goal of the US is to "impose the US rules on every country", if we don't do it, some other country will. Not very democratic if you ask me. Mexico's natural resources are in play, the US wants to "help" Mexico with it's Energy reform (oil and lithio). But not many US citizens know all these. Politicians there in the US and in Mexico, care more about their interests than the best for their citizens. The US being the wealthiest country in the world and having homeless and seniors abandoned, while it spends trillions on wars, it is a shame.✌️

I think the difference is that in Mexico immigration is not politicized. We dont have a mexican party saying: "We will build a wall and Central America will pay for it!" or a political party saying that President Lopez-Obrador is allowing an "invasion" For Mexico, immigration is more of a bureaucratic affair.

a mexican subway sandwich cost 170 pesos wich is about 10 dollars and 50 cents, a big mac cost about the same than the US.

Our pleasure!

Good advice, if foreigners don't pay more than Mexicans, we all win. Stop the GREED!.

Plus learn Español.

@@lucilanavarrete9287 or just move to another country which is safer, cheaper and more welcoming to foreigners. And where they speak English with foreigners.

@@MEN101 If you have all those requirements, then just stay in your home country! It's the prerogative of people in those countries to use the language they want with foreigners, as it's their country & customs. You need to adapt if you want to go there, not the other way out.

If they speak English to you; you have something they want. @@MEN101

Right. I wouldn't necessarily say that the Mexican government clearly only wants high-wage earners getting residency. The economic solvency requirements are just tied to the minimum wage.

great point..and the Mexican economy has been roaring for awhile..hence the "super peso"

Just so you know, the US is one of the few most polluters in the world 🤷‍♂️ And México doesn't need firms from outside. Nothing good ever happens when they do. Check how US and Canadian companies are polluting parts of Mexico

Los Angeles is waiting for you :)

Good point, he left that out. I figured he meant that was the requirement for a single individual looking to repatriate. If a couple or family is seeking, seems reasonable it wouldn't be that same amount for every individual in that unit. But for the amount he said, a good sized family could live quite well in the US.

Yes they do. And millions are living in a home that was once their grandparents or parents home. And the numbers the government uses for the middle and upper class are all very wrong. $25k pesos in your hand a month a person with family trying to pay rent can't afford a decent car. I have many friends that earn $25k a month with a wife and two kids but have to live life crap. Home without air conditioning, propane heater in the winter, no car, kids in bad public school, they have to eat a diet that will only lead to obesity and type two diabetes. Now "if" both husband and wife work, both earn $20k pesos a month, in their hand, no kids, they take the bus to work and are willing to do that for 10 years, then have kids, then they have a shot at middle class. Or if they live in their grandparents house so they have no rent, that helps. If someone dies in the family, they might inherit an old car.

@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica It also is cultural, we have lived like this even before the colonialism. We like and love our family culture 🤷‍♂️

@@luyzqint3760 YES !!! Familia es importante. La más grande familia la mejor. Todos trabajamos en equipo.

Application and your stamp at the Consulate runs about $50.00us and then another couple hundred + for the "canje" at the INM after getting here and then after that it's up to you on how much you want to spend. A little over one year ago I got my Temporary Resident Visa and drove here from the LA/Ventura area of CA.

Can you imagine how bad it would be if people from a nearby country flooded into your country with no money and no means of support? Good thing Mexico has stiff immigration laws. They are very intelligent.

@@williampotter2098 , if only we had leaders who cared that much about our country.

Au contraire. They are refusing a lot of people creating a hole in their economy. Bad business.

@@Chuck-yt7iq, I think Mexico already has more poors than they know what to do with.

@@williampotter2098 A study by the US state department has estimated that there are as many as one million Americans living illegally in Mexico.

Perhaps you should learn what is in place now. No for nothing people risk their life trying to get to the US 🤷‍♂️

Legally immigrating to the U.S. is no walk in the park.. For most it take many years.. Walking across the border into the U.S. as an illegal vs going through the proper U.S. immigration system are two very different animals..

@@tommyd688 especially when Mexicans don't have the 180 days Visas to not go in an irregular manner

@@tommyd688 Exactly !.

Did I say it was a "walk in the park"? Answer is no.@@tommyd688

Hi! I haven't seen you comment in awhile. It's nice to see you are still following the channel. As far as the relationship between individuals from different countries, I think it is difficult to generalize that. In tourist areas, locals seem to get numb to the presence of all of the foreigners, but they do enjoy the money their presence brings. One thing they don't like is the gentrification of local neighborhoods. When we are in areas that do not have much of a foreign presence, people are always pleasant. In fact, it is rare to encounter a Mexican with an anti-immigrant attitude -- at least one that they express. Of course, we are speaking Spanish and doing our best to assimilate. You are correct that economics have a lot to do with immigration both north and south. We are looking to live our best life. Now I am curious what those two exceptions are. :)

@@qroo 🤣🤣🤣 gotcha!🤣🤣🤣. Those are the gun related. I really don't like guns and hate what they do, not just in Mexico, but, elsewhere as well ✌️

Yes, with an expired 180 day FMM. The requirements change a bit by INM office with some offices requiring the expired FMM to be from 2020. It was intended to be an amnesty program for people stuck in Mexico due to COVID but they keep it going to bring in revenue. Mexico loves amnesty programs. They have them for immigration, improperly imported vehicles, overdue taxes (varies by local jurisdiction) -- it is the Mexico way. :)

@@qroo btw in her presentation with Secretary Blinken at the 17 to 18 min mark, Alicia states their plan for those migrants not accepted to the U.S. and stuck in Mexico, the target is to settle them in the Yucatan with the new railway driving urbanization and development. Sounds like the Yucatan is going to become more and more urbanized and congested?

@@NadineEbert I meant proving (for some it’s an onerous) economic solvency. I assume most people can rummage together the fees, otherwise they presumably can not survive in Mexico (at least not at a standard they would be comfortable) without U.S. standard of socialized welfare (not available in Mexico) anyway. Thanks for the clarification, which is why I alluded to the Mexperience article if anyone wants to look up the details. Qroo mentions the cutoff date might vary by INM office, which I think I might have also read before. I didn’t bother to pay too much attention to the details of it since it doesn’t apply to me. Just sharing for others looking for an option. I was already aware of the vehicle amnesty which applied to the vehicle I LEGALLY{*} drove across the border in 2021, but I have not availed of that gracious offer yet (may not need to do unless I move from the free zone). {*} amnesty was not only for illegal vehicles, i.e. afair includes those driven legally into the free zone My other observation in reacting more to Qroo's point about Mexico often doing amnesties, it seems that historically those who just lived on an expired FMM eventually were amnestied. Ironic because I was visiting as a tourist to Tijuana since 1980s, Puerta Vallarta since 1990s and Baja in general since 2001. Not suggesting anyone do that “illegal” action of overstaying though. May not be amnestied again in the future, except I have read some speculate that the globalist plan is to merge the 3 countries into the borderless NAU at some point, which would great from my perspective although would of course come with some tradeoffs. IOW, what I am speculating is that the gradual amnesties are slowly aligning the NAU countries towards assimilation. Ergo, the opportunities available now will not be available in the future. Which is the same as when in 2003, I saw hectares of beachfront land in La Paz for sale for $36k. Good luck if you can find 1000 sqm for $360k now.

The expired visa can be for any length of time, not just 180 days​@@qroo

@qroo you must be in Mexico to apply for this program?

The people are very welcoming and friendly here and most everyone who's moved here from the US will tell you flat out that it's much safer than most of the US. Don't let the news fool you. In the US crime, and especially violent crime happens everywhere in random places, whereas down here it mostly happens only in well known areas that are very easy to avoid and you wouldn't want to live there. Buena suerte!

You're right, currently Biloxi and Gulfport are rather affordable. Weather should be similar but a bit milder to Merida? We got Mexican residency but with all the inflation we are going back and forth now. Cost of living in Mexico is quickly catching up to US.

I grew up in central Michigan in the 60's and 70's. I remember there being snow on the ground all winter without any melt off all season. A snowstorm would dump 2-3 feet of snow regularly. I still have relatives there and I know now they rarely get more than 6 inches of snow at a time with much melt off throughout the season. The average temp. has to be higher than it used to be. It would be very bearable to me. At least in the area I grew up in. Global warming.

My friend did that, I thought it ended.

@@clownpocket Apparently, they continued the program into 2024. It's still in effect.

Hmmm, can a stamped passport be used, instead of a Visa? Otherwise, I will have to learn how to get a Visa.

@yumyumkitty2104 Yes, a stamped passport (180 day tourist visa) works as well.

I used to teach NCLEX prep for Mexican nurses who want to work in California; I'm working remotely now as an auditor. There are many options for us.

Each consulate is semi -independent. What may not be acceptable in one, may be fine in another consulate. Research it. MX is a different country. Almost EVERYTHING they do is different. I have been here 10 yrs. I had a similar problem to yours, but worse. Remedy as stated above. But I am just NOW seeing that the consulates behave as most Mexican businesses, that I know of, in whatever way works for them!😂 I love this culture.

Lots of mosquitoes there? And extremely humid and crowded with tourists?

Focus on the purchase power on each country, not on how much does does makes, since you earned dollars and pay with dollars, and Mexicans earned pesos and pay with pesos. Other dynamic is, family structure.✌️

Actually, the Mexican middle class is just as strong and valid as the gringo middle class. So much so that businesses that used to cater to gringos are turning their attention the Mexican nationals. Resort areas are catering to and recruiting customers in their own country rather than looking north of the border. Resorts and real estate deals that used to be 100% gringo are now sometimes 50-50, half gringo and half Mexican nationals.

A quick google search says 3.3 million mexicans work in maquiladoras in 2023, that is 5.5% of the mexican population economically active (61 million)

It has drastically increased over the last few years in response to Mexico's minimum wage increasing. The financial requirements are based on a formula of X times the minimum wage.

Hola Paul and Linda! Hola Danno! Feliz ano nuevo! That's what I've told my friends to do that can't qualify on their pension or their SS anymore. Sell it and put the required money in the bank for a minimum of 12 months, get a 180 permit a couple of times and live here affordably while that qualifying amount of money just sits and stews in a US bank account. Viola! You then qualify for a resident visa where you (I) can now live very comfortably on half of what you otherwise would have needed for the "economic solvency" requirements using your monthly income. BTW- The definition of Economic Solvency basically means "being able to pay your bills", so realistically it should be less than half of the $4,393us required. After just over a year living here and being warmly adopted by everyone, especially by "todas las abuelas' in my new neighborhood, I recently renewed my Temporary Resident Visa for three more years! Don't wait or the time will never seem to be just right! Buena suerte! Vivir como un rey en Ensenada!

What would a be an adequate amount in the bank account ?

What would a be an adequate amount in the bank account ?

Look up the requirements online at the web site for the two Mexican consulates closest to you. The amounts might be a little different between them.

I had my shot of whiskey ready for it, but I was sadly denied. And then I downed the shot anyway.

Most expensive in the US

RNE program is good but it only applies to a limited number of folks because of the requirements of having an expired FMM from 2020 (some offices accept 2021). That doesn't help the majority of viewers who are viewing from the U.S. and Canada. That's over 92%.

It is my understanding that this changes/updates every year in January.@@qroo

I have heard that some offices are accepting 7 day expired FMM from this year as long as you have traveled to Mexico in the past 10 years. So if you enter Mexico today and get 7 day FMM head to immigration office on day 8 and apply?@@qroo

@@MrBwalendyYou could come down and get an FMM and hope that next year the regularization program is still available. I've recently saw a video where a woman named Verlaine came down to La Paz this past year and got less than a couple of weeks on her FMM and beforehand arranged with a Lawyer/facilitator that as soon as her FMM expired she would go through with the regularization process. She said it was pretty easy and did the whole process in 2023. So really you may not have to wait. Ask an immigration specialist/ lawyer, it will cost a few thousand dollars but it's well worth it if you ask me and especially if you really want to live here. Buena suerte!

@@davidsebastianelli1326 Thanks, I am already in Mexico since December 18th, 2023. My FMM expires in June. My immigration lawyer said it should be good for 2025 RNE program. I am verifying this. If I don't have to wait then all the better. Thanks

yes please dont come we are full already

When qualifying for a Mexican Visa they are looking at monthly bank deposits for the last year, so those are after tax numbers. You can increase your dependents and decrease your deductions to make your income look larger each month, but it will give you a larger tax bill in the US each April.

Got to be post tax. In general in the US or Canada people talk about gross salary. In general in Mexico they talk about post, in their hand as millions here never see their taxes. They don't complete a yearly tax form. Companies do the individuals taxes. Companies actually steal a portion of workers taxes to make extra profits. (They keep the person's tax refund) Millions here have no clue as to how the taxes function.

@@daveadams5607 that has literally nothing to do with my question.

I got my permanent residency in my 40's, I told my interviewer that 25 years of military service aged me 20 years and my body is broken and ache like a 65 years old man.

@@tdgdbs1 It's so true - I should have used that line, although I only served 9 years.

You can convert your temp residency to permanent after 4 years as temp, am pretty sure. Temp residency gives you everything you need besides being able to legally work in mexico.

@@brendanalexander6053 yes, it's 1 year initially, then can be renewed for another 3, then converted to permanent. I'm here in Mexico for a little over a year and will do my 3 year renewal before I leave.

They can't have many left. Over 5% of their population has illegally come into the US in the last 2-3 years.

After 4 years temp you can go to permanent , it’s just the next step

After 4 years temp you can go to permanent , it’s just the next step

Start by calling yourself, US citizen. American is a Continental identity, not a nationality. Now, you can move to Mexico using the 180 (not guaranteed 180 days) tourist Visa, then you can open a small business, and get yourself a good lawyer. And, yes, you can buy property without being a resident, and actually, if the property value is greater than (I forgot the amount), you can apply for residency. There's a video of a lady that did just that.✌️

I believe the value of property owned in Mexico is quite a number to help qualify for RT o RP . . . $350,000 mas o menos@@luyzqint3760

When you move here as a foreigner you have to be a resident first and you will have the option of getting your citizenship later, it's not an either or.

@@luyzqint3760 He can call himself American if he wants. That's our standard. Otherwise you'd be calling Mexicans US citizens also (United States of Mexico or United Mexican States is the full name)

Mexico used to crack down on visa run, but if you let your visa expire and remain in Mexico; there is an amnesty program that will grand you temporary residency. Others are to marry a Mexican national, form a corporation that hire Mexicans, renounce your US citizenship and claim refugee status....I would seek advice from an immigration lawyer. There are ways if you want it bad enough.

Correct. You do not have to meet any financial requirements; however, some INM offices may still ask for those documents. Who knows why. The only thing consistent in Mexico is that everything is consistently inconsistent...lol.

yep, the INM office in San Cristobal de Las Casas asked for my bank statements when I transitioned from the 4 years of RT to now Residente Permanente visa . . . the INM offiicer was quite impressed that I did have my bank statements, she nodded in my favor ( everyone I spoke to prior told me no need - well as you have said many times . . . consistently inconsistent ) and I listened @@qroo

You are correct. I renewed mine for three years in late November, it cost me $565.15us and was well worth it! Buena suerte!

I will be going for my permanent residency this year after 4 years with a temporary residency. I own a house and a car here. If I understand your earlier reply, I should have no problems obtaining my permanent residency am I correct Gracias

Do it as soon as possible. Once you qualify at a consulate, rent a room in tij for a week and borrow a copy of electric bill from your host as proof of address. Then you are golden. Done it in tij 2 years ago.

So you definitely need a bill to complete the process?

@@skdmiller1 yes, but it doesn't have to be in your name.

Do you think an Airbnb host would do that?

@@skdmiller1 not every consulate asks for proof of address. I have heard of many instances where Airbnb hosts have assisted by providing a bill if needed though.

The business or institution always makes money on convertimg money. That's why you will see different buy and sell prices. Currency exchange places away from airports usually give decent rates.

Don't change money - withdraw pesos from an ATM instead.

Yes, and decline the rate offer by the bank that own the ATMs; it will revert to your better rate from your own bank. @@Munromad

Use a credit card for all the purchases that take credit cards and get an ATM card that refunds ATM fees (we use a Fidelity cash card).

that's what I am doing, but the rate varies from city to city, for example in Puerto Vallarta the rate at the exchange booths was 15.7/16 same as withdrawing from ATM, in Guadalajara it was slightly higher (16.2). I was pretty surprised seeing 17 in Mexico (even at the airport). So I am guessing it's just different depending on the city you're in @@Munromad

Perhaps most but certainly not all. get emails from people all the time asking about other ways to obtain residency because they can't meet the requirements under either monthly income or savings/investments.

Realistically here, the majority of U.S. , Canadian expats that are in Mexico today would not qualify under the new current rules.

If that’s the case, then Mexico is indeed already out of reach for those folks. Retirees who have nothing but SS to live off will face difficulties in any part of the US Empire as well.

Around 272k for permanant and 72k temp residancy

Austin consulate said no; has to be from employment or pension.

@@tdgdbs1 Looks like I'll have to wait until 62 or a return of stolen Mexican land :) #makeamericamexicoagain lol

deposit the 75,000 us for temp residency, are there accounts that pay interest or is this just a savings account. Can it be in Mexico stocks> thanks

There is a "regularization" process that is popular with digital nomads but you must have visited Mexico prior to 2021

will there be a second fee to get the permanent residency?

​@jerrysegal2903 yes the current fee for converting temporary to permanent is 8197 pesos