the biggest tragedy of this game is how ava was supposed to actually have character development and become less annoying, but somehow they decided that those two cutscenes were what needed to be cut instead of something like the shitty "meme videos" that tyreen forces upon you. also in one of the cut cutscenes was maya's funeral, which would have given her death some meaning instead of being less emotionally impactful to the characters than the loss of bloodwing, who didnt even get ONE cutscene relating to her death and still caused immense grief to mordecai in ways that even subtly bled into other characters dialogue. i hate how much better it could have been, if only they hadnt cut out the few actually decent bits of writing.

What if You wanted to fight some bandits BUT THEN GOD SAID "Talk to Commander Lilith"

i love how at some point this video shifts from "iron cub only" run to "why bl3 sucks" no jokes. i hated the plot of this game and maya's demise made me so heartbroken so it's very nice to hear someone pointing out all the nonsenses this part has

This was amazing. Perfect way to mask dissing this games entire storyline as iron cub beating the game. Absolutely beautiful

"Teach her some lower tax bracket manners." That joke didn't go unnoticed my friend

Im going to send this to people when they ask my thoughts on bl3 XD. great video homie

I honestly forgot about the challenge and was just hypnotized by your commentary. Truly amazing

its so funny when someone gets killed in a cut scene and youre 5 feet away from all of the characters when you could literly shoot them while talking xD

I think its really funny that one of the player characters is a siren, watching another siren kill a siren. And then the calypsos leave. Its not like miss phase fist could beat up both of them or get killed at multiple ocasions.

THANK YOU!! finally someone else that also didn't believe Maya actually died because of how poorly it was handled. I spent the literal rest of the game waiting for her to pop back out revealing she was actually alive.

4:35 Fun Fact: They aren't professional writers, The writer with the most experience under his belt did 2 things before Borderlands 3, 2 others only did one thing and the 4th one did nothing before Borderlands 3.

Your reaction to Maya dying, was at the same level as mine. It's why I stopped playing BL3 a while back. Maya was simply amazing in BL2. Such a well created character and nothing short of shameful what Gearbox did to pad a crappy and lousy plot in the first place.

There's a single mission in borderlands 2 that breaks CL4P-TP for me. It makes him a truly likeable character, and the thing is the signs were always there. His birthday only showed me just how much character I was missing by hating him. He wants a single thing, to be loved. And to that end he'd do everything, even for people who hate him. It never works for him. He's fated to be the subject of ire, and I've never related more. I truly adore him, with all his annoying quirks.

10:40, you wanna know what's with this game's obsession with loot? It's because the writing team took the first two games, went "Huh, people farmed for stuff in these games. They must only be here for the loot. let's water down everything to loot.". It's exactly why Borderlands 1 was so much darker than the later games. Borderlands 1 was a fresh start. 2 went "Huh people liked the humor from the first game. I guess we need to do nothing but make everything a joke." and that got taken even further in 3 when everyone is boiled down to 1 personality trait.

I really hope that the intro cutscene in BL4 just makes BL3s story fully non canon somehow.

The implication with Katagawa's tech is that Zer0 was originally a Maliwan project/assassin. I guess Zer0 ran off with the prototypes or something and they spent all this time recreating what they could. Another theory is that Zer0 is a Katagawa themself.

The way you talk about Borderlands 3, sounds exactly like how I talk about Scarlet and Violet. I love every second of the seething direct and passive aggression. Thank you for this gem.

Fun fact The reason stated by gearbox for not adding new vault hunters essentially was "Most people have a favorite character after their first playthrough and large parts of the community dont care for new ones and prefer their favorite in new story locations" Which I dont belive And for 3 it seems just a lie Comparing any of the characters and their 90% of time 'more numbers' skills to krieg, gaige or even athena is.... laughable

I can’t believe I am saying this but give me a reimagined claptrap revolution with a snarky and annoying claptrap would be more enjoyable then the twins…clap trap was actually funny and not annoying after having to listen to those twins for an extended period of time.

This does highlight how the abilities in bl3 for the most part seem to have ludicrously long cooldowns, which just makes a lot of them less fun. The mech and cub suffer in particular from this

Whole run is basically just a diss to the story. Feel it. My friends wanted to run the game again. We did, I was bored. Having already played all 4 vault hunters before, running again was such a slog, the story is so awful. Good gameplay, bad writing. Let’s hope the 4th game isn’t nearly as bad. I enjoy Borderlands 2 more even after all the years.

Borderlands 4 cold opens on Maya waking up on the Sanctuary ship. The playable characters are a mix of everyone from the first 2 games, minus a couple that have more important things (like death) to deal with.

Come for the challenge run, stay for the cathartic beatdown/dissection of why the game is fucking awful. My biggest complaint is that I felt like an escort NPC for a lot of the game, just following the actually important main characters around and watching as They have climactic meetings while I, Unnamed Town Guard 542, watched. If you removed my character from the story of Borderlands 1, everything goes to shit. If you removed my character from the story of Borderlands 3, the "Real" heroes of the story have to fight a little harder sometimes.

When I fought Billy, he somehow glitched into a wall. With nothing else to do, I left the fight, but Billy was still in the wall. Later, I walked back into his aggro range, and he teleported back out of the wall, on the wrong side. Billy the anointed, with teleportation was loose on the outside world, and spawncamped me 30+ times.

Yeah the Calypso twins were a strange choice of antagonist. I feel like they could've done something better than "mad at dad" with their motivations too. Can you imagine a story where we still had the Calypso twins but Tyreen was actually menacing and Troy tries to defect against her but ends up being absorbed by Tyreen? That would've made me excited to fight her as a final boss, not relieved I wouldn't have to hear her anymore. No hate to the voice actor behind Tyreen, only the people who wrote the dialogue. To be fair though, I doubt any villain they came up with really would've felt anywhere near as menacing as Handsome Jack. PS: After the first playthrough I turned voice audio to 0 and subtitles off, I couldn't even bring myself to read what they were saying lol.

"It sweeps a giant saw all the way around the field.." oh ... does it? I think i killed it too fast to notice that

God damn, never expected to find someone with a stronger opinion about Borderlands 3. I'm genuinely impressed. And yea, I agree with pretty much most, if not all, of your points on it. God I wish it was better

I don't remember if it came as a patch, but this was the BL i wished i could skip the cutscenes, everyone forgets they have powers and twin streamers use theirs to gain more powers that the main BL characters immediately forget they have... for no apparant raisin. gameplay was smooth same with gunplay, but adding a mod to mute twins/ava and maybe one other and it's bearable when the Loot Goblin isn't on the screen or talking through your echo.

I think my favorite part of this video was at 21:38 when you we're fighting Aurelia. I just really loved that speech you gave when cub was killing her.

You know, listening to you vent your (completely valid) complaints about the story, I think I realize what the huge difference between borderlands 2 and 3's story telling is: Borderlands 2 had a shockingly serious story almost the whole way through with some gallows humor and great tongue-and-cheek references along the way. Borderlands 3 had a silly story that never takes itself seriously for more than 30 seconds, Aspects of main story quests include: Tyreen and Troy making far jokes for 5+ minutes in the subway. Accompanying a 'pleasure bot'. deal with two AI's messy break up. Sure, in borderlands 2 we did combat with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, assisted a psychotic 12 year old with making a tea party out of combat vehicle parts and a live grenade as a party guest, and fight a giant monster for suggestive pin-ups of Moxxie, but all of that was optional side content. All of the not-serious funny stuff was almost exclusively reserved for side story stuff. Killing bonerfarts was a side quest, and killing extra bandits to get revenge for Riess. If this was borderlands 3, these two mission objectives would be opposite! And if you think that I'm being hyperbolic: Rhys has a meltdown over a Fro-yo shop in the main story, and participating in a birthday party for a dead little girl hosted by a grieving father is a side quest. The sole exception was Claptrap, but as you said, everyone in canon acknowledges him as being annoying and stupid, and since it was ONLY him being annoying, it was excused. We had an acceptable outlet for the annoying humor, we had the side quests for the goofy humor, and the rest of the main game took itself seriously.

Thank you for expressing how I felt about Maya and what they did to her! 17:00

Atlas soldier: SIRE ZERO IS KILLING US ALL ALSO HE NOW HAS 5 FINGERS FOR SOME REASON

Iron Cub bouncing around the background is truly the only tolerable thing about the cutscenes in this game

Complains about bosses having immune phases then proceeds to delete Traunt with a single button press.

10:47 can I say..... based? This is exactly what I love about the franchise. The guns are the tool, imho, not the focus. It's why I loved TPS so much tbh And then Borderlands 3 retcons it's ending.... And Aurelia's whole character arc..... God, I hope Gearbox burns. Whatever, this game is literal fanfic and not canon. Way too many writing mistakes and inconsistencies with the whole franchise to not feasibly be one, too paradoxical :)

I think the reason vault hunters are venerated is because the surviving ones(that can truly be called Vault Hunters) tend to be both extremely competent and considerably successful. In BL1, the original 4 Vault Hunters literally fended off a godlike monster and lived to tell the tale, going on to lead their own groups. The Pre-Sequel's Hunters obtained similar prestige and positions with only Claptrap, Jack's double, and Athena not quite matching up but still eventually ending with considerable achievements. BL2's Vault Hunters end up in the least prestigious positions but perform arguably more meritous achievements, taking down the entirety of Jack's Hyperion Corp and the Warrior. Gaige, Zero, Krieg, and Maya are the only BL2 characters we personally see how they end up. Of non playable Vault Hunters, there is primarily Typhon Deleon who killed the massive Vault monster whose corpse is present on Necrotefayo(can't remember the spelling off the top of my head). Honestly, if the someone wants to call themselves a Vault Hunter they NEED to be extremely capable at the least. Another thing to note, not all people that say that they are Vault Hunters live up to the name. The fact that Jack killed so many 'Would be heros' as seen at the beginning of BL2 is more than enough evidence of that. "Vault Hunter" is more of a title that people aspire towards and there are plenty of conmen that don't actually live up to the hype.

To be fair, I think the writers did not like the way the game turned out, and it was probably just Randy Pitchford forcing through all these shitty decisions. I know he was the one who pushed for the Penn and Teller cameo, and he's been on record saying how little he thinks of the players who like borderlands

i think the only thing bad about bl3 challenge videos is showing any of the plot at all for even one second

every single F bomb was perfectly delivered 👍

BL3 was the biggest disappointment I've had when it came to game sequels. I bought and played BL2 on both consoles and PC throughout the years and it holds a special place in my heart. This game broke my heart. I feel validated watching this video and hearing all of my complaints put into words.

"You love Tina! Don't you love Tina? Give gearbox your money!" I mean yeah. We do love tina

Honestly the story wasn’t that bad for me. It definitely wasn’t on 2’s level but it’s nowhere near as bad as people say. The gameplay is god tier tho

Iron Cub is a good boy.

Alternative title "borderlands 3 but I tell the truth"

I think you'll think it's even more insufferable that Ava is cannon 18 she's some how older than gaige in borderlands 2 with this personality

I've only just found your channel but you're easily one of my new favourites can't wait for the next video

Lilith flying into the sun and dying to “This girl is on fire” is genuinely the worst and most unintentionally hilarious moment in video game history I think

this was a really nice video. i hate the story for this game but love the game play and explosions

Wow your content is criminally underseen and under rated!!! As your standard gearbox/borderlands2 fan with the strongest pair of rose tinted glasses that makes me only see anything gearbox puts out desperately hoping for the dopamine I long for that was once the rocket fuel that gave me life to play video games, I feel like your videos are tailor made for my enjoyment. And if I was some super rich oil prince you would have your own tower somewhere to do whatever as long as it fun and possibly produced a few of these every so often. So if you ever see this comment, you will somewhat know what joy these last few hours your videos have brought to so random person on this planet. Weird world huh, me typing this thinking that whoever made this video will read it like some metaphorical message in a bottle. Anyways, cheers friend.

Borderlands 3 is the Teen Titans Go of the series, went from a master piece to a constant stream of fart and sex jokes

When Tannis knows the most and seems to be the more level-headed, its Bonkers Bananas that Lilly would throw everyone's life on the last remaining hope for humanity on Sanctuary 3 to the over reacting and failing even more, Kid Ava?!?

Can't wait for Borderlands 4 to start with Lilith waking up from a bad dream and going "Wow, I'm glad that never happened" (the bad dream being all of Borderlands 3)

I'd be okay with borderlands 4 being this game over again, one for one, but at the end ava wakes up and it was all a dream and she decides to be a more interesting character.

This is the best summary of BL3's problems. Ever. For me, most of this stuff was subconscious, not really able to be put into words. But hearing it out loud... yeah. One of my personal major issues with BL3, which was only lightly addressed in this video, is that the new Vault Hunters aren't... anything to write home about..? Sure they're "unique" by Borderlands standards, however, there isn't a *SINGLE* line of dialogue in 3 that reacts to ANYTHING they say. Sure BL2 didn't really have any unique interactions between the VH and the cast, but do you know what did??? The Pre-Sequel! They really let the Pre-Sequel outdo their most hyped game ever. Now don't get me wrong, I actually didn't mind TPS. But 3 was supposed to be better, right? I don't know. Much ado about nothing, I suppose, but it's a real missed opportunity that just gets on my nerves.

The calypsos are intimidating and serious off camera. The problem is they're usually on camera because they're always on the grind.

I genuinely feel like the best way borderlands 4 can recover from this is eiether mocking the third game relentlessly while taking place directly after it, or literally just taking place after borderlands 2 rendering 3 non canon

Loving your B3 masochism. Awesome vid

12:24 actually my good sir this is a bootleg eye of helios 🤓

Yeah, I don't get why more people don't talk about how the "first vault hunter" makes such a genuinely large plot hole that this game just can't be cannon to the first two. Heck, Tannis' whole backstory was that she initially hated researching the vault, not that some legendary first vault hunter inspired her

Finally a fellow Wainlock enjoyer. They truly are goated with the sauce

I was recently thinking about replaying this game, thank you so much for reliving the absolute dumpster fire of a story to yank that urge out of me.

I wanted to love BL3 so badly. But i just cant. And you hit the mark on the reasons.

Came for fun challenge that I'd never wish onto anyone. But I stayed and faved this video for an amazing borderlands 3 story review!

Double TAP! nice reference and so good commentary 😊✋🏽

I'm definetely subscribing, man. Great video!

I've been really enjoying your content recently and glad I've found your channel! Keep up the great work

I agree with everything you said about the story

Your Borderlands content is by far my favorite of your content, so I'm ok with this becoming a Borderlands channel.

They need to cut borderlands 3 out of canon like they cut the only character development in this game

That iron cub captain traunt kill was personal

I like that so many people agree that Troy could've been a great character Like, they both suck, but Troy actually had potential, plus his character design is cool as hell

Love the vids spuddycube keep it up!

i feel like the only few characters they didnt royally fuck up in some way shape or form were: mordecai, brick, tina, and hammerlock (excluding dlcs of course, because they did way better at those for some reason)

If BL4, if it ever happens, is a complete retcon of BL3, I will fucking eat it up I stg, just name it like "The pre-sequel 2" and have it be about retconning all of the bad decisions

This just kinda felt like cinema sins if they played the movies themselves.

Borderlands 3 is the only game I can think of in recent memory that the developer studio would be better off PLEADING to the fans for a mulligan before completely retconning its entire existence rather than even ATTEMPTING to course correct from the mess it left. Borderlands 3 pisses on almost a DECADE of its fans investment into both its lore, narrative and characters. Literally EVERY SINGLE pre-established character walks away from this entry having become WORSE as a result of their involvement in the games plot. Every single prior vault hunter. Every single fan favorite NPC. They killed off THREE legacy vault hunters in the most contrived, poorly written and disrespectful way possible. And they reduced every single OTHER vault hunter into complacent idiots doing random irrelevant BS when the ENTIRE universe is in danger, literally the HIGHEST STAKES EVER!! I dont even care where the stories goes even if borderlands 4 is GOOD because the characters I follow the story for have been PERMANENTLY TARNISHED with this stain on their records.

This is less a challenge run and more a review. But a good one.

I thought Rhys' personality was pretty well kept- Especially Rhys-Ball, it felt like Loader Bot all over again.

4:20 for me main issue with them is they are not danger to player. They not even try to harm you other than sending you xp farm 7:00 oh yeah they fucked up big time with how they handle old characters to the point borderlands 3 is a big middle finger to 1 and 2 31:13 it should be Tannis for God sake

Best case scenario Borderlands 4 has a siren with the Phaseclock power as the main antagonist to control time for 4 reasons 1. It fits right in with Phaselock and Phasewalk and we need that back, Phasegrasp is weak 2. It would allow the entirety of BL3 (aside from the wedding and, eh, throw in the Kreig therapy session too) to be retconned 3. We could bring Maya back to life and oh no Ava suddenly disappears forever as the result of a paradox oh well can't be helped 4. We'd get to hear Brick freak out and say stuff like "Man how the F%#& do we kill a time traveler?" and other fun dialogue

I fucking HATE what they did to Aurelia in 3, AND WHAT THEY DID TO KRIEG! I won't lie and say that I even paid attention to Aurelia all that much when I played through the Pre-Sequel as a teen, hell I used Athena (cuz sexy Amazonian Woman yumyum me big gay) but seeing her in 3 made me go back and play through the game again as Aurelia because I like watching Villains develop, hence why I still enjoy the Pre-Sequel (and my actual enjoyment for low G gimmicks but shhhhhh) and OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK?! She's SO DIFFERENT IN THIS GAME! Even if we took STARTER AURELIA FROM THE MOMENT SHE LANDED ON THE SPACE STATION SHE STILL WOULD NOT BE THE BITCH SHE IS IN 3! WHAT THE FUCK?! And oh my god Krieeeeeeeg, my poor poor boy! They tore him to shreds! That's not how he's supposed to act! That's not how he's supposed to act at all! He has NO REACTION to Maya's Death, he has NO REAL COMMENT on the Vault Hunt, he's basically just "Lol psycho who can talk, lol" fucking the MOXXXIE DLC ALREADY USED THAT GIMMICK AND EVEN THEN IT WAS A PRETTY QUICK DLC BECAUSE THEY KNEW THE GIMMICK WOULD WEAR OUT FASTER THAN ME WITH SPORTS! I legitimately can't even begin to get hyped for a future BL4 because I know even if it's a fucking gaming masterpiece on the level of all three Half-life games and Portal COMBINED it still won't be able to fix the absolute shitshow of 3 unless it soft resets the series, which despite me fucking HATING when that happens, it's still legitimately the only way to deal with this trash.

Y'know, playing through this as my first borderlands I thought the story was pretty decent, but after going back to play bl2 I slowly realized how shit it was. I absolutely love the gameplay, just like you said, but holy fuck this is such a bad story.

something that was so small and yet so integral to the looter shooter feel of borderlands 2 that is completely missed in borderlands 3 is loot rarity legendary items were rare and powerful and unique pieces of gear that could turn you from a meek little lamb into a walking power house and made farming for them fun and memorable but in borderlands 3 you'll get at least one but on average two or three from every boss and they all feel relatively the same and none are memorable, it turned a looter shooter into a shooter where you can get lame guns that are supposedly rarer but are handed out like candy on halloween and that's not eve mentioning the secret rarity items like pearls which when I was told about i thought was a play ground roomer until I happened upon a tubby spiderant which was just insanely cool and fun

In bl4 it needs to start with Lilith waking up in a cold sweat terrified of what she dreampt (bl3). Also it should be almost impossible for every siren to be in the same plot, there are six sirens in existence maximum and they're all involved in this abbysmal story

Congrats on hitting 1k subs

For anyone who wants to attempt this like I did (DON'T) then it's best to equip the homing missiles on the cub. That's right. The AI for a missile is better than the AI for a mech.

to the rant in about 3:45 i present, tiny tinas poem in bl2 when she just says kill jack a bunch.

I wont let you touch that couple till im dead and i infinitely respawn

I've never been been happy to see an ad on a video. Congrats on 1k my dude!

My headcanon as a maya main is that bl3 is all a dream and didnt happen

21:38 surprised you didn't mention how they ruined Aurelia's character arc here

Oh man, you know what loading screen needs, drop pods....

I was also saying "Double Tap!!" after the Troy battle. And anyone who listened to Typhon's echo log things all over the planets were interested in what he would be like. Still don't understand what the FUCK the writers were thinking when it comes to Ava. Are they really that out of touch...?

im gonna watch every single one of these videos

I fuggin love Claptrap

I have a theory the plot was for a Telltale game where you play as lilith since everything is focused on her even stealing every accomplishment the player had in BL1+BL2. BL3 is also the only game i know where you can ignore all sidequests and still be overpowered and with how one note the sidequests are i think its a mercy

I thought Maya's death was a fake out too and that she was coming back because in one of the trailers leading up to BL3's release Maya and Tiny Tina fist bump but that scene never happens in game. Edit: I was wrong. I just found the scene again and it's in the BL3 reveal trailer. She fist bumps Eva... I don't remember that but what ever lol.

21:38 i thought you were going to talk about the fact they BUTCHERED her ENTIRE character arc... for shits and giggles. in the pre-sequel, she STARTS like this cold-hearted bitch, but over the course of the game she actually evolves into a legit character, one that's a lot less evil. still snobby and a bit annoying, but she actually REGRETS what she did to her brother. especially when she goes down, she straight up asks him for FORGIVENESS. so she actually does become a relatively good person at the very end. so WHY THE FUCK is she THIS evil now?! she DID redeem herself at the end of BL:TPS, so what happened to make her this evil? speaking of butchered characters and wasted potential, fucking TROY had a better shot at being a good villain but got shafted SO HARD! basically: troy has been living under the thumb of tyreen for his entire life, and eventually gains maya's powers. so what if he no longer needed to leech off tyreen anymore thanks to his new powers, allowing him to actually do his own thing? he's the one making the annointed, so what if he starts a coup, and succeeds. allowing him to catch tyreen by surprise and leech her dry, gaining lilith's, maya's and tyreen's powers, and goes on a massive power trip. now that he's finally unleashed, he now wants to become the most powerful thing to ever exist, so he NEVER has to kiss someone's ass just to survive. hell, he could actually hire YOU to help him do this, allowing him to actually evolve as a character. maybe he actually turns to our side temporarily because he hates his sis for basically forcing him to do whatever she wants, cause if he didn't he would die. he could have done so much more than the story allowed him to, but we NEEDED a duo of streamers gunning for galaxy destruction. Speaking of, the hell is that for goal? destroying the universe? why? because 2 people did a shit job at raising you? that's like me trying to break every building in the world because I stubbed my toe on a table. they wasted so much potential here.

That same eridian tablet broke for me. No clue what the intended occurrence is

Damn bro you went off. 😂 😎👌👏👏👏👏👏