Yeah, I like the combo mechanic where you can combo attack if you press a at the same time a beat happens

@Ordinary Trans Girl Yeah like the first 2 Paper Mario games

Youre goddamn right

I totally agree

@@Number_27 and then there is super paper Mario that ditches the great battle system for the best story Mario has to offer

As of my run (near the end of ch. 7 it sadly isn’t possible)

Why is it that I'm the kind of person who gets so emotional that I cry when I'm mad, yet this game and similar ones simply don't get my tears going? It's not like I'm disconnected or anything, I still get immersed and feel terrible for poor lucas and co.

“No crying till the end” Me who can’t beat the stupid drago in chapter 1

I did it twice.

@@329link maybe you might have been spoiled before? that always ruins the emotional moments.

This was actually the first time I replayed Mother 3 in a long time. Now that I replayed it, I forgot how good the game was. For the Masked Man fight, I actually never thought about RNG manipulation to make him miss. However, if I can recall my several attempts of fighting, I don't think Masked Man can miss. Additionally, PSI will never miss, so the moment he uses PSI Cum omega, it's pretty much game over at that point. I don't think I would be able to quickly get through the whole battle without having Lucas's HP roll down to 0 first.

@@shoppingcart4174 Ahh, true. Thanks for the response, that makes sense!

@@shoppingcart4174 guarding may help because your hp will decrease slower

@@aheadsounds2522 Yep. I learned that by the time I got up to Masked Man. It would've been better to keep one person guarding the whole time in a difficult fight, such as the Barrier trio at the end of their battle.

@@shoppingcart4174 Technically, a non psi run is possible since u have healing items that can heal u all the way up. Similarly, a non item run coul possible but since u need to use the drago knife from the beginning there needs to be an exception. Do mementos count as an item since u don't use them but they are used automatically? Great video btw

literally the same joke every single time

lol I never thought about that. Also Lucas starts off with a shirt as a defense equippable from the start of the game. So, I technically made Lucas shirtless the entire run.

@@shoppingcart4174 I can only imagine the characters looking at a shirtless kid running around beating up pigmasks and chimeras. Like just imagine Lucas is in club titiboo and he's not even wearing a shirt.

@@PukiLynx he's really, really buff too

Bites the er.

Yep, that would've been a better idea for me to do lol. I don't know why I didn't think about that. Oh well, adds more unnecessary challenge

@@shoppingcart4174 Fassad usually activates the Punisherizer thing when you defend, instead of attacking. I feel like it adds a 20% chance for him to do that.

I was planning to add the "uh oh stinky" monkey and woody from toy story for Salsa and Flint, but I thought it would be too much.

Charles Manson is the reason why I clicked on the video lol

How did you decide on using Chie in the thumbnail for KUMAtora

@@BluShiGuy Because they're both tomboyish psychic bruisers, I presume.

that would take almost a day with normal luck

I don’t think any GBA emulators have save states.

@@burghelyaficionado9567 they do have them

@@AlexSpherebob I mean, i've only ever used like one GBA emulator. As a wise Mic-Spamming Russian Human Tank with a mini-gun once said, "Eh, Whateva."

@@burghelyaficionado9567 how can I say "epic reference, funny man" without making a stupid youtube comment and telling everyone else?

Same, I really had to focus all my energy to focus on the challenge not to get emotional

Me who just got annoyed with the final boss No u i will just spam guard because this is annoying

True

yeh

@Guilherme Reis practice drumming

Slaps harder than Kumatora

Опа русский фанат Mother 3!

I equipped every one of those expecting porky to murder me and they ended up saving that claus battle

The hard part would be preserving them until that point, because even the one without the fancy name is before master porky and i think the natural killer cyborg

@@mario-nk7be Are you talking about Mementos? You get, as I remember, 6 or 7 Mementos. He was stopped by Masked Man, the final boss. I think 4-5 mementos would let him outlast Masked Man.

​​@@mario-nk7beYou do realise that you can store the Mementos in the Item Guy, right? It's easy to just run from the enemies and store one of them to end the game, since just one full heals him and that's enough to end the Masked Man fight. And you get an Item Guy after the defeat of Porky down the ladders.

That's how all of the series final bosses are. Survive until you can finish singing, survive until you can finish praying, survive until you can finish...staring at claus?

Survive until you cry

Honestly. Never thought I'd see Chie, Charles Manson, And Linus in one picture.

Spam PK Thunder, Lower his defense, maybe use sprinting bombs if you have some and Grind untill your party members are level 17+ Also, heal if you have to.

At that point You can't get past Jealous Bass

The Jealous Bass, the Pillar Men, Masked Man in the first battle, and Mr. Fassad (both New and Miracle) takes forever to beat.

​@@poweroffriendship2.0 Miracle's easy

Did you beat the Oh-So-Snake?

I don't have the voice to make it sound entertaining with voiceovers, and I don't feel like recording, so 2010 text it is

not necessarily, comboing is slow so it actually makes things worse if you're taking mortal damage

That was something I was debating on. It could be an interesting idea. It could be most doable for Earthbound. If I get bored and want to do another challenge, I could try that.

@@shoppingcart4174 Mother 3 also seems possible without physical attacks... but also seems a lot harder. Certainly sounds fun, but... it also solves an early game problem that Earthbound doesn't: WHAT DO YOU DO BEFORE YOU CAN USE PSI? Just RUN? Over, and over again? What if it was PSI and Items ONLY as a run? Mother 3 solves this by going "But what if Thunder Bomb spam?" Which is actually a LOT of fun. Thunder bombs, long after they start doing half your Bash damage output, can be useful for paralyzing opponents and I usually grab about 100 of them to store. The hardest part imo is Duster's travel through the castle and getting Kumatora. You practically have to NOT GRIND AT ALL in the castle to have enough explosives to take down the snake, and don't get me started on how long getting past the caribou would take... But after that, it is SMOOTH SAILING. Load Boney up with good food items and once he rejoins the party load up Lucas with most of the food and give Thunder Bombs to both of them to use until Lucas gets Love a. ALSO! Since you can have Equippable items! This opens up the venue for the Mystical Shoes to be useful due to their Speed increase, since you won't be needing any better items for damage (Except the Good Shoes, I believe...? Unless they have half the Speed boost like I'm remembering) And then, obviously, the Mystical Stick will be useful for Lucas "Here, let me heal you. Okay the time is now, go! Wait... that's not the right direction where are you going"

You can still damage the mecha drago, it ain’t invincible

@@wolfetteplays8894 Yeah, but you can only deal 1 damage to it for every attack.

​@@SonicTheCutehogBut it IS possible. I've seen a video of somebody doing it without the fang, on level 5

Even Claus can use PK 10:40

Nice challenge there, mind if I do it?

HAHAHA

rookie mistake

I am not sure what Hard Mode is like for Mother 3, but I think doing it without PSI is a good challenge, so good job! When I first did the Earthbound challenge, at first I was going to do a no PSI challenge, but then I thought "If I'm not using PSI, I'm just going to buy a lot of healing items, which ruins the point of the challenge". So I restricted that, but then thought about how much damage these characters could do, and thought fuck it, no equipment either. And that's how these Mother/Earthbound challenges started. And yes, that is PK Cum

@@shoppingcart4174 well, let me explain that: in the english translation if you name yourself "Hard Mode" at the prayer sanctuary (chapter 1) the enemies (and some bosses) will have double HP so this is a pretty cool Challenge if you wan to try it. PD: yeah I saw your earthbound no psi or item video and DAAAAMM i don't know how you did it. That's insane 👍🏻 (Sorry for my bad English)

@@shoppingcart4174 Excuse me wHAT WHAT EVEN IS THAT *GOD DAMN PSI NA-* Good video BTW.

Good idea! I might path that

ironic given how it's objective is literally just to survive, which is hard to do without any healing

@@theheckler399 Its, not it's.

In terms of favorite food, the only time you eat it is at the beginning of the game during a cutscene with Hinawa. There is no actual item in game. In fact, it was actually planned to be an item, but remains unused in the game. It can be accessed by debugging. Either way, I was never going to use it. I named Lucas's favorite "Dogshit", so I definitely think it's a bad idea for him to eat it in this challenge.

@@shoppingcart4174 That's a good point. I forgot about that. Maybe it's worth TAS-ing but the battle is still way too long

Yep, I pretty much did the most difficult challenges I could think of for the Mother series. The only thing harder I can think of is like apply the same rules, but you can only play as Paula and everyone else stays dead, which based on what I experienced, might be impossible, or just too tedious that it's not worth doing. For Earthbound at least, it COULD be possible to do a PSI only run. Though I'm not sure if I'm ever going to do that.

That's true. I wonder what my gameplay runs would've looked like if I utilized it more often since they could've been helpful at times.

12 year old me upon finding it was like the best thing ever. I was trying to grind EXP from the slitherhens and flying mice, then I saw a small black smudge and thought "da fuck is that?" Then searched it up, and realized what it can do. I feel it is kind of fucked up because it's like, I can't play Mother 3 anymore without fighting the black beanling. There is nothing stopping me from earning so much EXP.

Same.

It happened to me in my second playthrough D=

That is true though during the final Masked Man fight, he can use lightning, but it only works in certain conditions. He will never use the lightning attack if you fight him normally. However, if you revive another party member, he will use the lightning to instantly kill that member. This will also affect Lucas, causing him to reflect the lightning back at Masked Man and take no damage. The problem is that in order to revive a party member, you need to use a reviving item, which is not allowed in this run. There was actually a video in which someone attempts to defeat Masked Man by constantly reflecting the lighting using reviving items, but then it causes the memory sequences to play much earlier to prevent you from actually killing Masked Man yourself.

@@shoppingcart4174 darn. yeah then its probably impossible, that sucks

@@shoppingcart4174 Oh wait, there is the chance he misses, is that totally RNG-based or is conditional?

@@cjflash4002 From the numerous times I fought Masked Man, I don't think he ever misses. That is being said for his regular attacks. All PSI can never miss in Mother 3, so even if it were possible to use RNG manip to dodge all his regular attacks, I'm always going to die to PSI Cum omega. It is scripted so that he will always use that attack after a couple of turns in. Even with guarding, there is still too much time that needs to pass before Masked Man gives up.

I guess the TAS luck stuff takes the fun out of a run like this anyways, thanks for replying and going through a challenge like this.

Yep, I have heard of it. I will play that game when it comes it.

Happy 2021 and thanks for the reply!