Can You Go Off-Grid With a Tesla Powerwall?

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@BenSullinsOfficial
@BenSullinsOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for catching the error in the final weekly totals. It turns out the way Tesla reports the data doesn't take into account the time dimensions. So here are the updated numbers, basically divide by 12 and you've got it - twitter.com/BenSullins/status/1329529416855158784
@bahram5970
@bahram5970 3 жыл бұрын
سلام خوبی بود باله من باز می شد ولی اهتگ بگو از ایبی
@bahram5970
@bahram5970 3 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@bahram5970
@bahram5970 3 жыл бұрын
باز منشود
@MrFurriephillips
@MrFurriephillips 3 жыл бұрын
If you’ve only got a 10% deficit, surely you could do a quick audit on your usage & hone it, to best use the available solar & battery? I feel like that would make a great & natural extension of this video series & a satisfying challenge for you and your fam ;)
@bahram5970
@bahram5970 3 жыл бұрын
سلام ناکال اومد اومتب اومد پاک کرن
@borisbetus8610
@borisbetus8610 3 жыл бұрын
10:56 ben-"it's not looking good" Also ben:*keeps lights on even though the sun is shining through the window
@coreyverisario6570
@coreyverisario6570 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I wanted to say as well. Dude...turn off stuff that doesn't need to be on. Like lights during the day...lol. that would help a lot.
@maskedpotatoes
@maskedpotatoes 3 жыл бұрын
@@coreyverisario6570 it depends. If those are LED fixtures, the amount of power is MINUSCULE: even a pretty beefy 15W LED lamp only pulls 360Wh in an entire day. Also keep on mind that Ben here is working with a camera and lightning is important: he said it's just doing regular stuff and video production is part of that.
@TrebleSketch
@TrebleSketch 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the issues tbh, people need to change their habits to improve all our power usage. Seriously :/
@morosis82
@morosis82 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell. The camera will adjust to the light level, so while it may look bright for a kitchen you need more light than minimum. Sometimes when the sun is low it's not quite enough.
@jeffklaubo3168
@jeffklaubo3168 3 жыл бұрын
He clearly stated he was going to live as he normally would.
@pedrovisgueira
@pedrovisgueira 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine living completely autonomous in terms of energy consuming only solar, this gets me hyped for the future.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 3 жыл бұрын
I won't hold my breath for that one. Even Florida , with all it's sun, made it illegal to unhook from the grid.
@pedrovisgueira
@pedrovisgueira 3 жыл бұрын
@@aussie2uGA That really sucks, the government controlling our own choices of life preventing us from prosper financially and technologically is really fučked up
@bobedwards8896
@bobedwards8896 3 жыл бұрын
@@aussie2uGA florida, the "sunshine state" has been historically pressured by oil companies to ban solar outright, put restrictions, taxes' etc. most other states dont have these ridiculous issues. gotta love the GOP
@daveborinski3021
@daveborinski3021 3 жыл бұрын
@@aussie2uGA You can’t cancel your power service in FL but you can flip the main disconnect as Ben did. In my case, I’d still have to pay FPL $9 a month. It’s worth the $9/m to use them as my battery and save the charge/discharge cycles on my powerwalls.
@NasaRacer
@NasaRacer 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveborinski3021 With the huge increase of rooftop solar the utility company can't continue to be everyone's free battery. They need to pay you much less for your overly abundant afternoon solar power and charge you much more for the scarce and expensive evening power. Making you much more motivated to charge/discharge your Powerwall daily.
@caprailroad
@caprailroad 3 жыл бұрын
those battery packs exceeded my expectations with only 16 panels. you did a really good experiment
@rrrr6863
@rrrr6863 Жыл бұрын
This makes me feel GOOD about 31 panels and 3 powerwalls 👍
@daveborinski3021
@daveborinski3021 3 жыл бұрын
Ben, The reason your solar is getting shut down is because it’s producing more power than the powerwall can accept. Being disconnected from the grid, that power has no place to go so the solar has to be turned off. You could connect your car and adjust the charging amps used to charge it and allow that energy to be captured in the car & powerwall but it’s a delicate balancing act. Also, turn your water heater off at night and back on when the solar is up to conserve usage overnight. If Tesla allowed a vehicle to powerwall connection, you would be able to use all of the solar power you can generate in a day. Vehicle to grid has many issues but vehicle to powerwall could be seamless.
@HarveyPayne
@HarveyPayne 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say something similar. My powerwalls get full around noon so it would shut off solar then. If off grid my plan would be to set car to add maybe 10 kwh starting at 11:30 am which should keep the solar running and let me capture that otherwise lost energy.
@darrellsellers
@darrellsellers 3 жыл бұрын
Additional powerwall., will help capture more ?
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrellsellers its already expensive and not used all the time
@daveborinski3021
@daveborinski3021 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrellsellers Additional Powerwall is not much help. He’s capturing most of what he’s generating from solar. It’s just that he can’t charge to 100% of the Powerwall capacity due to the slow charge rate. If he added a Powerwall, he’d end up with a 66% charge in the 3 powerwalls and out the extra cost. I.E.; not many additional kWh to carry him through the night. Adding more solar makes the situation worse because higher kw output from solar means the Powerwall has to cut off the solar system sooner as they can’t absorb that much power when they are at a higher % of charge.
@BillB33525
@BillB33525 3 жыл бұрын
Vehicle to P.W. is the way to go for long term power outages. Install one P.W. for short term outages and plug the car into the P.W. for long term situations. With the big car battery as backup users might be able to survive with less panels as the big car battery is there to soak up all the solar the panels can produce. This capability might induce more customers to solar and EVs. Finally, would be interesting if Ben could break out his energy usage, particularly the AC consumption.
@dakota4766
@dakota4766 3 жыл бұрын
I love these off grid power wall videos. Thanks for doing one ben
@ob0273
@ob0273 3 жыл бұрын
Your ad introduction was so great I had to last till the end :DDDD
@BnORailFan
@BnORailFan 3 жыл бұрын
That coffee maker sure takes a lot of energy.
@timberthewolf733
@timberthewolf733 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting experiment, once you said you used the air conditioner, I was like oh there's no way it will last 7 days.
@timberthewolf733
@timberthewolf733 3 жыл бұрын
Also coffee makers use a surprising amount of energy.
@GuruMN
@GuruMN 3 жыл бұрын
@@timberthewolf733 If you make the coffee and shut it off, it's not that much total energy. This guy has some serious standby consumption that should be addressed, instead his answer would be to throw more solar panels at it. Also if you want to be off-grid, some control over optimizing the air conditioner usage to not run out of power should be done. You definitely would do it if you actually lost grid power. It seems he wasn't really trying to conserve much energy.
@RandomCommentDue
@RandomCommentDue 3 жыл бұрын
@@GuruMN He literally said at the start of the video that they werent going to do much to reduce consumption besides not charging their Teslas, as there wasnt really a need
@GuruMN
@GuruMN 3 жыл бұрын
@@RandomCommentDue I know what he said, but it was well demonstrated that there clearly was a need and his experiment wouldn't have "failed" if he had taken care of the standby consumption issues. ..which he should anyway, even if it wasn't a solar or powerwall system because there is some serious power waste happening while they sleep apart from the air conditioning usage.
@crypt0sFX
@crypt0sFX 3 жыл бұрын
Such an inefficient energy source.
@mk500
@mk500 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos. Really well done. I especially liked the shot of the coffee maker when the power went out. Really informative video overall! Thank you!
@winstonfoto6505
@winstonfoto6505 3 жыл бұрын
This was Brilliant! Love the real world! Thank you for producing.
@fc872e1
@fc872e1 2 жыл бұрын
Very glad to see this video. This test is actually a success and represents great news. The issue here was too high energy demand from your family. My monthly average usage for the year is 1002 kWh in a 3750 ft2 house, while you’re using that in a week. The solution is called conservation. In other words: think about the energy being used, and how to get more efficient with it
@meh2199
@meh2199 3 жыл бұрын
Best,most honest test I’ve seen so far. Great Job👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@slikh
@slikh 3 жыл бұрын
Great experiment. I am sure several of us wondered if this was possible but it was cool that you (and your family) put it through the paces.
@martinusjr7654
@martinusjr7654 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the information you provided and for the time making this videos .
@BKelly877
@BKelly877 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing I have a powerwall and 26 panels myself. We have lots of outages because of SCE power safety shut offs. Battery comes in handy big time. Was thinking of buying another battery as well. Thanks for info!
@AdamDadeby
@AdamDadeby 3 жыл бұрын
Seen from Europe, that 28kWh daily energy use (without EV charging) sounds huge. There must be scope for upping your energy efficiency. Insulation, external shading, better night time air change rates, higher efficiency appliances, LED lighting.
@mddah01
@mddah01 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks - and important to watch right to the end to get the main message - install sufficient solar right at the start. We have 12 kW on the roof, around 10kWh of battery storage (not Powerwall) and 2 EVs. We have frequent power outages during which we run aircon and pool pump only during the day and use the outdoor BBQ rather than the oven in the evening. With these precautions we can manage indefinitely and comfortably without the grid and still get a useful charge into the EVs.
@shaunwhiteley3544
@shaunwhiteley3544 3 жыл бұрын
10:54 sat there stating still getting solar, so light outside but lights on behind him. I imagine the outcome a lot better with ‘some’ power conservation!
@gutspraygore
@gutspraygore 2 жыл бұрын
Great and realistic info as always. Thanks for making it!
@titanpreparedness
@titanpreparedness 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Ive always wondered how these would hold up during outages.
@WazZappening
@WazZappening 3 жыл бұрын
Your breakdown at the end was super helpful, looking to buy a house and adding solar and batteries. Was thinking of getting the batteries first and so on but you made a really good point on just getting the whole enchilada at once and really take advantage of those tax credits. Thanks
@dayneodendaal4772
@dayneodendaal4772 3 жыл бұрын
The 24 sound effects were nice touch 👌🏼
@BenSullinsOfficial
@BenSullinsOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@smb2265
@smb2265 2 жыл бұрын
This was extremely useful Ben. Thanks a lot brother. Cheers
@munkytaint666
@munkytaint666 3 жыл бұрын
very informative experiment; definitely helps us lay people better understand the flow of grid/generated/stored energy usage and its practical application. thanks for freeing the data. One of my favorite videos that you've done to date
@ricardozen402
@ricardozen402 3 жыл бұрын
I knew it! Going off grid with power walls are the most convenient and efficient way to do it! Thanks Ben for putting your home to the test. Too bad that Nespresso couldn’t make it through the shot. Zen from Costa Rica.
@mayorofsexytown6958
@mayorofsexytown6958 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, I like your data driven style.
@mikecamann2139
@mikecamann2139 3 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of your videos but this one was exceptionally informative. Great experiment, love the approach to it! So the question would be, given this setup, is it worth switching off grid every 4-5 days? Are there any meaningful financial gains to maintaining that type of schedule?
@jackmead6166
@jackmead6166 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! We just Leased a new Tesla system and got a system that will cost us close to what our electric bill was running. Now after watching your video, we learned a lot about watch the system can do!! Thank you!!! We are still making adjustments on our usage........but these are hard choices. Thank you for your information.
@kirknason1234
@kirknason1234 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 8kw system with two PWs, This size will keep me running with three adults in a 2.6k sq/ft home. This includes running air conditioning at peak time of day.
@Helios-Rex
@Helios-Rex 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.Idea: Start a power wall challenge-see how long you can go on a battery
@mrdsn189
@mrdsn189 3 жыл бұрын
This was interesting, great idea and video!
@ocker2000
@ocker2000 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this real world test. I am currently configuring a solar/powerwall set up for an off the grid container housing project. 30 percent extra solar sounds about right! Thx.
@dimalranasinghe8152
@dimalranasinghe8152 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the valuable information.
@hightechfarmers
@hightechfarmers 3 жыл бұрын
Ben, nice to see some others try this out. Recommend any month other than Oct-March. Find Oct and March are transition months where Nov, Dec, Jan and Feb are all the months my system runs behind production. Can be seen by watching grey bars on weekly charts and when do you take from grid. Planning a backup generator to be able to charge during Oct-March to keep batteries charged if propane cost is below grid. Summer test with full ac raging is pretty cool. Expect months are possible during summer with no sacrifice to energy use. Feels like real energy independence.
@chadbailey7038
@chadbailey7038 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man 👍🏾 Especially with what’s going on in Texas rn. Apparently there will be A LOT of future power wall buyers in TX in the upcoming months after this!
@des8893
@des8893 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw this pop up in my recommendations. Very timely given the failure of Texas' grid. Crazy that no one was willing to install a few panels
@csApollo11
@csApollo11 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great vid. What I'm reading here is that if hurricane hits and I don't see much sun for about three days, I'm going to lose all the juice. I think I'm going to go with a standby natural gas generator, albeit it'll be a bit loud.
@ndraju
@ndraju 3 жыл бұрын
Ben - I enjoy watching your all your other videos (on Tesla and others) - I have a pretty similar setup - I tested mine over a month when I got my powerwall setup live in early 2018 - we did our own solar panel setup - permits and electrical work - mostly for the same reasons you outlined that no one will support you later for maintenance or changes. We have 30 panels (10kW) for a 7.6 kW inverter so we over provisioned the panels to compensate for cloud cover etc. Some of those gaps you see could be a result of cloud cover or the solar inverter switching off thinking the battery was already full - you may have to play with the inverter settings on that depending on what model you have. We also have the 2 powerwalls like in your setup. We replaced all gas appliances (water heater/home heater) with heat pump (100% electric) to use our excess capacity fully.
@velveder2
@velveder2 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative
@danielhammond2226
@danielhammond2226 2 жыл бұрын
I love this, I have solar in Texas, no power wall. 19.4kw system it appears to produce around 80kwh average per day sometimes though I burn thru more power than this per day.
@charlesnoack6829
@charlesnoack6829 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I just installed 2 Powerwalls and it took 2 days to charge them with two solar systems. Our original system installed in 2004. It is 18 panels(215 watts each) which is a 3.8kW system. Then in 2019, we added 8 panels(326W each) for a 2.6kW system. Total combined 6.4kW's. The solar company quoted a 12-panel system as the smallest they would install. Like you said, they are in the business of making money. Unfortunately, with the pool solar panels on the roof, only 8 panels could be installed. They agreed to install the 8 panels. It is March 11, 2021, in the San Francisco Bay area, so the system, with the weather right now is working ok. I was trying to find out how long this system would carry the house with an extended power outage. Your video and analysis is very helpful. Thanks so much for doing it.
@everintransit4240
@everintransit4240 3 жыл бұрын
House cleaning involves vacuuming which is a huge inductive load. This is the problem with solar air conditioning. The rotating motor and/or heating element needs overwhelm the supply. Great post.
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 3 жыл бұрын
Some people uses heat pumps and geothermal which is very expensive but also very efficient
@BillB33525
@BillB33525 3 жыл бұрын
Try battery powered Dyson, they work great.
@MH-Tesla
@MH-Tesla 3 жыл бұрын
Holy energy usage! I live in Michigan and don't shy away from using power or air conditioning. Run a dehumidifier 24/7 in the summer as well. Highest month was 566kWh. House is 60% the size of yours. But that's just amazingly high for just a week. You doubled my highest month usage in less than 7 days. I'm going to have to work harder to catch up.
@Pk3_Garage
@Pk3_Garage 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I like how you really tested the system out by not changing your daily habits. When we bought our portable generator, I tested it out doing things as normal, just to see how it handled our daily usage. (Don't want to find this out during a real emergency) As others and you have mentioned, adding additional solar panels should help with recharging the Powerwall's to full capacity everyday. My concern with solar and battery back up system, is how will you manage without sun for a few days, in a power outage. Even though you had sun each day during your test, you showed a weakness in the system, a lot of people don't talk about in their review videos. Might want to invest in a portable generator, as backup power, to your solar system. The last thing you want is to not be prepared, if your solar system fails. Our generator is connected to our Natural Gas line, so no need to refill generator or store fuel. (I still keep 15 gal. of gasoline though)
@shimmypolkaroo
@shimmypolkaroo 3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative
@SustainableCraig
@SustainableCraig 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool experiment. This was interesting to watch.
@paladinxdotcom
@paladinxdotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with maximise solar on installation, particularly at 51 degrees latitude. You could also consider putting better insulation in your house if the aircon is eating energy in the day. Good video Ben.
@bntravelin2
@bntravelin2 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the test. it was fascinating that you said no cut backs , just going on with life. NOW I want to see IF you cut back and managed systems in the house how long could you go......
@jdlutz1965
@jdlutz1965 3 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the 🌞. A cloudy day will not give you enough energy to last a full day and batteries will be completely drained soon after.
@erickessler6094
@erickessler6094 3 жыл бұрын
Ben, this is a Brilliant idea & analysis! 27kw doesn't seem like much! Exactly what I wanted to know... Ha-ha. I really want to build a home from scratch with Tesla Roof, PowerWalls & enough power for 1-2 Tesla's.
@greghudson9717
@greghudson9717 3 жыл бұрын
G'Day from Australia Ben. A very informative video. I give you a 10 out of 10 for the idea. I'm waiting on my powerwall (just one) AU$13,000 installed... I already have 6.4kW of panels on the roof, and I'm expecting the PW will be filled every day (in summer). Only 2 retired people here, small house, no Model Y (yet), so we don't use much power. A/C only goes on 3 or 4 days per year.
@timogronroos4642
@timogronroos4642 3 жыл бұрын
First I thought, you could have made it in summer with more sun, but then you need more cooling, it would have been a "no" also. Great advice, thanks!
@DillonLoomis22
@DillonLoomis22 3 жыл бұрын
that pete mckinnon swag i see? my man thanks for the vid, interesting!
@SoSSmokeyMcPot
@SoSSmokeyMcPot 3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos and OLF, don't let the haters get you down
@joshe8946
@joshe8946 3 жыл бұрын
Love the survivor style vlogs Ben
@hikintrailsndrinkinales
@hikintrailsndrinkinales 3 жыл бұрын
🔥 content Ben!!!
@diamonddbw
@diamonddbw 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben. Can you tell us the total watts supplied by your solar? Setting up my own system, would help to be able to compare that input.
@stevedowler2366
@stevedowler2366 3 жыл бұрын
Here in southwest Colorado, we get about a month and a half of hot days (90 to 95deg) in June and July then the monsoons kick in through to October when the temp goes back to the 70s. I'll try to add some solar panels to boost the refill capacity. Cheers, S.
@danielgrubb9668
@danielgrubb9668 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good test.
@lkendrix7782
@lkendrix7782 3 жыл бұрын
How do you clean the solar panels! How often do you clean them!
@F8Tributo
@F8Tributo 3 жыл бұрын
Great power study, Ben! Were you charging any of your cars during the off-grid time? Not sure if you mentioned that or not
@rlsingle00
@rlsingle00 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@bryanverberg4342
@bryanverberg4342 3 жыл бұрын
Great information
@DimaTkachenko
@DimaTkachenko 3 жыл бұрын
If you can repeat this test in June when day is much longer you may be able to go whole month off grid, great video
@usfreedom22
@usfreedom22 2 жыл бұрын
I just finalize my contract with Tesla for the solar roof with18 kWh and 3 power walls. So based off this video I will have way more than enough to go off the grid. Thanks for the info
@mikeoskam3785
@mikeoskam3785 3 жыл бұрын
looked pretty good! In a real emergency you would have been a little more conservative with AC etc.. You should be able to stay off grid for a long, long time. Ofcourse with vehicle to grid, you could have refueled your Teslas at a supercharger, and add that to your powerwalls.
@asum8122
@asum8122 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video, are you able to scale up the number of Solar Panels/poweralls for additional Generation and/or Storage capacity?
@RetneEname
@RetneEname 3 жыл бұрын
These are the kind of experiments we need to do. More data brings more solutions.
@mattlth
@mattlth 3 жыл бұрын
Those spurious gaps in the solar production are when the Powerwalls become full and the gateway turns off the panels. After the Powerwalls discharge a bit, the gateway turns the panels back on to charge the Powerwalls and supply AC to the home.
@rabbmuhammad2900
@rabbmuhammad2900 3 жыл бұрын
We have very similar Tesla Powerwall/solar panel system setups and we both live in San Diego. October is not an ideal time to do this type of experiment in SD. Its still very hot because of the Santa Anas so you need tons of energy for AC AND the length of daytime gets dramatically shorter as time goes on. Bad combo. I've only had my system for a year now, but from what I could tell June was probably the best month that balanced both relatively mild weather at the beginning of the month with longer daytime. Having said all of that, even then I think 7 days might be risky but I think you'd make it in June. Great video showing the strengths and limitations of the Powerwalls!
@eatit314
@eatit314 3 жыл бұрын
Ben, that was a great experiment! I have a question, though. Does the app you use to configure your powerwall run through a central server or are you able to access your powerwall directly through your LAN? In a real off-grid-situation that lasts a couple days it might be possible that land-based internet connection and even cell phone service is limited or doesn't work. In a situation like this would you still be able to access and configure your powerall in case you need to change something?
@humblecourageous3919
@humblecourageous3919 2 жыл бұрын
If you live in San Diego County, check with Mark Snyder Electric. He added 1 KW a couple of years ago to our 2.5 KW system he put in for us 20 years ago. We make 1300 KW extra a year. We got a used Chevy Volt in March 2020 and we still made extra.
@aidancameron9203
@aidancameron9203 3 жыл бұрын
You have inspired me to do this experiment myself. This would be very dependent on the time of year here in North Queensland Australia. Currently I'm producing in summer on average 35kWh of solar a day from 6kW panels through a 5kW inverter. We use about 17kWh a day. I just put a timer circuit in my Electric Hot water to be on only from 9AM - 4PM to reduce the depth the Powerwall cycles. Making a big difference. It is interesting to see what happens when it cannot put the energy back into the grid it looks like it cuts the solar of early.
@willyoung8257
@willyoung8257 3 жыл бұрын
Your energy use is insane! I live in the UK and used 315Kw/H last month for a family of 3 with us working from home too.
@alanrickett2537
@alanrickett2537 3 жыл бұрын
No air con. air con is the biggest power issue in homes dispite half the world not using it
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 3 жыл бұрын
If you live in Australia or large parts of the midwest, you use a lot of AC.
@nordic5490
@nordic5490 3 жыл бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 if you have poor habits you will use a lot of ac power. Where I live in Oz, we often have several weeks of >40°C. I have a small ac, and run it whenever I want, typically less than 1kw ac consumption. Standard 70s 3brick veneer house. No, I dont cool the entire house, but am comfortable in the rooms I use. Yes, all parasitic / phantom / standby power has been eliminated where possible. So... with a 6kw solar pv, and running my ac whenever I want, I receive a $3k AUD cheque from my power company every year from feed in credits, and have no power bill. It is an easy thing to do if you try.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 3 жыл бұрын
@@nordic5490 how big is your house though? Mine is 5000 Sq ft, so it takes a lot to run the AC in the summer, and yes it's very well insulated with triple pane windows.
@darryldriggins4085
@darryldriggins4085 3 жыл бұрын
Ben, Nice presentation. It seems like you don't know how to do without. If your going off the Grid, then shut down the A.C., and go to a swamp cooler. It would save you ALOT of Kw. Swamp coolers run on 110 v the A.C. runs on 220v. Reduce the lights to only shine when you need them. Kill the water Heater, If your going off the Grid,,, GO OFF THE GRID! Try this again, you will make 10 days at least!! I enjoy your blogs. Darryl
@Maladriel
@Maladriel 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how far would you get if you use only essentials and decreased comfort zone. There´s plenty of room to save energy. What about to try real blackout scenario, are you up for it? :) Great vid btw. I would like solar for my house and this helps with my planning.
@MortekX
@MortekX 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Poland only rich people have ac. Its cold now since its autumn already so my energy usage grew to 250 kwh for the past two months - just paid the bill. Its just pretty small apartment like 40 meters square. So I use in 8 months what you used in a week it seems.
@mmp11472
@mmp11472 3 жыл бұрын
Merica
@daverowsome4023
@daverowsome4023 3 жыл бұрын
hope to see you repeat the test in January
@supertesla19
@supertesla19 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing. I should be getting my Tesla solar panels installed this month with 2 power walls. I'll be getting 42 panels for a 14.28kW system. I probably need 3 power walls, but I think 2 is a good start for my house.
@tankercrewchief
@tankercrewchief 2 жыл бұрын
How’s solar life been? Edit: Nevermind, I’m checking out your channel👀
@xrayangiodoc
@xrayangiodoc 3 жыл бұрын
From my point of view, I would imagine that if there was some long term disruption of the grid and I had to make due with what your solar/battery storage system could provide, I would try to reduce energy use by raising the thermostat, switching to LED lighting, etc. What energy saving measures did you take?
@keiranmcmanus
@keiranmcmanus 3 жыл бұрын
During a blackout my best was 67 hours 45 minutes with 1 Powerwall 2 and not running the air con. Grid power came back on and ended it.
@user-pt9gy8uk4c
@user-pt9gy8uk4c 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Ben, thank you for all the information you provided. Extremely helpful. I subscribed your channel when I saw your other session. While I found this one week experiement you did is VERY interesting and practical. I'm thinking of getting one system in where I live outside LA where should be similar to where you are. I have a few follow on questions on your week long experiment. (1) You mentioned that you didn't charge your EV during the experiment periord. However, I heard you mentioned that the Tesla Powerwall was fully charged around noon time, which means your house was powered by solar from your 16 panels, not powerwall, during the day. So do you feel there might be any extra power (just estimate, since you don't have "sell back" number as you swithed off from the frid) from your 16 solar panels to charge your EVs during the day? Since you work from home, charging EVs during the day or night makes no difference. (2) Also, because the Powerwall can be charged to full around noon, but its level still seems continue to drop at your evening checking point as each day goes by. Does that mean your house's afternoon power consumption is more than that 16 panels can provide, so it has to dip into the Powerwall for energy before the night starts? I saw the weather were similar during these days, and the powerwall was charged to full around noon everyday, so what make it continue to drop? Is it your afternoon usage gradually increased during those days? Or other reasons? I think if your daytime usage is similar, while the powerwall can be charged to full everyday, then if you can make through the 1st day, you should be able to make through each and every reast of days. I'm a bit not clear here. Thank you again, Ben. Hope hear some further comments from you.
@jeffneilson510
@jeffneilson510 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video!
@brantwedel
@brantwedel 3 жыл бұрын
RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!!! ROFL, I was not expecting that on this channel 😂
@tomcat124us
@tomcat124us 3 жыл бұрын
Tool - Hooker with a Penis. Always comes to mind lol 😂
@paulcummings55
@paulcummings55 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the experiment! We currently have an 8.84KW system, but no EVs as yet, and since there is no tiered metering in the Austin area, really no reason to justify a Powerwall- our net metering is a dollar-for-dollar trade. But if we can afford it down the road, we would like to add another 5-6KW and a couple of batteries to offset our future EVs. You might consider the same thing- no one will install two panels for your, but if you add another 10-12 panels to completely offset your EV usage, that would probably get it done. And maybe one more Powerwall.
@djash7161
@djash7161 3 жыл бұрын
Good experiment but in a blackout or Apocalypse we’d conserve energy no lattes
@walterhubbard1601
@walterhubbard1601 3 жыл бұрын
Great experiment. What software are you using to pull the data from the Tesla app? I have to add up mine by hand and then put it into a spreadsheet. Can the TezLab app do that I some future update? Thanks!
@jamesbuchanan3439
@jamesbuchanan3439 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned upsizing your solar system in the beginning, which I agree with 125%, but in NY the PSC/utility rule was (is?) that it can only be built out to 90% of electric power usage, based on the full prior year. (To counter-act this, perhaps maximize home-charging one or more EV’s the year prior to going solar, and perhaps do some home heating with electricity (I have a portable AC that also can be run as a heat-pump heater) rather than the normal furnace, etc., etc.?)
@clemslee
@clemslee 3 жыл бұрын
Great test! I was in the same position we were 100% offset with 10 panels via solar city they said we could add any number of panels anytime. Now owned by tesla they said we need a minimum of 12 panels added but at least you qualify for the tax credit again if you add the whole second system.
@shanefife5639
@shanefife5639 3 жыл бұрын
You use Tableau. Nice! I would love to visualize your data. Certified Desktop Specialist here. Maybe I could reduce the workload visualizing the data. Let me know! Shane
@mixanguyen3068
@mixanguyen3068 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Question. If there is a power outage in the area and there is no internet service, does this affect the PW ability to communicate with the phone? Cell phone service would be out as well. I guess you are relying on your home wifi to communicate and control the PW.
@bondnikunj
@bondnikunj 3 жыл бұрын
25 days roughly a month with your usage pattern.that is very good.things will only get better from here in terms of solar and battery
@phillipingram1434
@phillipingram1434 3 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Widdermaker
@Widdermaker 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I wonder if you’d have made it if you’d conducted your experiment in June-July? I’ve ordered a 10.7kW Solar system with 3 Powerwalls here in FL. I want to power my Tesla Model S with solar, but also need the emergency backup power in case a hurricane knocks out the grid. Plus we have a lot of annoying “mini” outages here in the summertime - Powerwalls should make that a thing of the past. Thanks for another great video!
@DSRTSLA
@DSRTSLA 3 жыл бұрын
Ben, I'm sure you know by now but when your solar turned off, based on another video Ive watched from @everyamp, the frequency goes up when battery is full that tells the inverters to turn off since there's nowhere for the energy to go.
@stuartkieffer5077
@stuartkieffer5077 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, Thanks for all the great information you’re providing with your channel. I was hoping you or some of your followers could help me with my solar needs? I’m in the process of ordering Tesla solar and quite frankly at the same time I’m learning so much...I’m also getting more and more confused. Mostly about the options of what to power with the power walls if power goes out? And, I do live in So Ca, So…My real question is SREC’s! Tesla wants to “Prepay” or credit me in my contract (upfront) but, I would rather be able to sell them on my own, if possible. Hence my question, Does CA offer this?? Incidentally, I’m ordering a 8.16kw solar sys with 2 power walls, I do own a model 3. I look forward to any help you can offer! Thanks
@hershchat
@hershchat 3 жыл бұрын
Good experiment. A decade sounds like a long time, but, by the time your tikes are out there, I believe they’d be powering a block with a setup the same footprint as yours.
@crashoverride93637
@crashoverride93637 3 жыл бұрын
I would look into unbound solar they do DIY solar adding a few to a current system should be pretty easy project
@paulgoodman1605
@paulgoodman1605 3 жыл бұрын
i have two walls and got to 9 days off the grid and went back when the wall got to 20% charge. i did not make any charges to like style. My solar is 2.45kw solar that is 13 years old. Could go farther if needed.
@panners125
@panners125 3 жыл бұрын
I know you said that you had the air conditioner running during the test. We in Australia work on C not F so I can only explain it in C. When we run our air conditioning at home, we run it at about 24 C due to the fact that we don’t like to cold and they use less current. I have no idea what temp settings you used but this can also affect your power demands on the power walls.👍🏻
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