Rickey Ripley 59 amen ! Those who are legalistic would have us live in daily fear of losing our salvation . Our Father loves us and doesn’t want us to live in fear .

Rickey Ripley 59 Did you see any person in the Scripture that he is sure in his salvation and did not follow Christ commanments?

Rickey Ripley 59 nothing paralyzes me worse then that fear

@@dj_1969 PAul said to work out your salvation in fear and trembling.

He is so good. It truly is good news!

Jesse buckland amen same here .

No its not the context but according to the guidance from the Holy Spirit.No one can understand the Scripture without the guidance from the Holy Spirit.

@@princeneo777 The Holy Spirit is the entry point, one must however ask the holy sprit to provide you the ability to discern scripture, without which you risk stumbling through a scriptural minefield.. a basic tenant of proper hermeneutics.

dunno if you guys cares but if you guys are stoned like me atm then you can watch pretty much all the latest movies on instaflixxer. I've been binge watching with my brother for the last couple of days xD

@Fisher Lee definitely, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself =)

Tenke Stephens amen brother/sister amen

The question is did you have your salvation?

Not So! God will always be faithful but not all believers keep their Faith, so how can you say if a Christian fall away from the Faith unto death God is a promise breaker ? God has broken any promise but the unbeliever walk away so God is still faithful because he cannot deny himself.

+Bryn Lawrence Not all who believe are truly believers.

Romans 11:29 - For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. Ephesian 2:8-9 - For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the _gift_ of God, _not of works_, lest any man should boast. Salvation is a gift (as are faith (Romans 12:3) and grace (God's free unmerited favor accepted through faith in His Son - John 3:16 and other verses...) from God, so...

@@lewisallrightsreserved7879 Just as any gift we receive... We can always return it. Be blessed brother 🙏

Because of you self righteous person like you many gay people reject the Gospel and they are lost... 😕

So are you saying that God is a liar when He said that eternal life is a free gift? Maybe is just a trick and the good new infact is a bad one... In order to receive His free gift[if indeed is a real free gift ] i have to be perfect? I do not have sex with guys but im still gay. What should do? Should i go to therapy or perhaps i should get merried with a woman i dont love just to please God?... I will never be able to please God. 😢 No one can... How will i ever become straight? I ask God to change me but HE DOESNT CARE. After you said i dont thing God loves me anymore. He hates me no matter what i do,how good person i would be i will never be saved. Jesus hates fags and so on... 😢 Only good and straight people will be saved... His sacrifice was in vain. Or was exclusive for good falks like yourself... 😢

Decebal Trandafir man God loves you so much. I'm straight but still sometimes struggle with pornography, the Bible also made it clear in this way-james2:10 which says if you are as perfect as you can possibly be yet mess up just once even in the smallest way, your guilty of every sin. Man I'm as guilty as you are and even Hitler. The key is to remember to never (identify) as gay, just like I don't identify as a sinner. We identify in Christ. 2corinthians5:17 go repent to God if you haven't already or do it in a honest way and start proclaiming with your mouth that you are a new creation in Christ Jesus. I sometimes have the impulse to lie and sometimes I fail and do lie but that doesn't make me a lier... I'm a Christian because I strive for God and more than that, God loved us first, we were unlovable when Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Man God loved you more than you could ever imagine. It takes time to get rid of old sins. I recommend a pastor that I love very much and helped me out of the same place you may be in. He's on KZfaq (Andrew wommack). One of my favorite sermons is (how to stay full of God) God knows your heart, if you love him he'll give you the strength to live for him 1corinthians10:13 God will help you if you let him. Call upon the name of the Lord. One thing that helped me a lot was when I stopped watching bad movies, listening to good music that wasn't full of rebellion and cursing. And especially when I stopped hanging out with people that weren't Christian. Find a church that loves people and follows the word,if you can't find one then watch KZfaq. Here are some great pastors-joseph prince, Andrew wommack, Kenneth Copeland,Kieth Moore. Love ya man. If you ever need to talk then we can find each other on Facebook.

Bill E. No reason to shout and no reason to quote half a context to prove a point. Try a bit of humility and quit looking to the extreme in what we are struggling with. Sin is sin there is no "greater than " as it is all sin. You may categorize it as worse than, but the bible is clear , sin is sin. I have to trust God that He will continue to work in my life regardless of what others say . 1 Phil 1:6 Notice there is no time scale presented? Do you think that you were being gentle or a bit forceful in relating the gospel to Decebal? Do you think Gay people should be shouted at? What about people who smoke marijuana? What about people who drink excessively? Will you shout at these people too? Will it bring them closer or drive them away ?

Isaac White , a far better response than Bill E's condemning tone. Except for this last line "Here are some great pastors-joseph prince, Andrew wommack, Kenneth Copeland,Kieth Moore. " There are false teachers to be aware of Ken Copeland is one very bad one. Stick with Andrew Farley Ministries ,as Andrew will guide you along without the condemnation that hurts so many of us.

Can you pinpoint where it talks about Hebrews who were severely persecuted and returned to the Mosaic Law?

If I were to accept Andrew's argument at face value I would have to come to the conclusion that Jesus never died for our sins as he simply tasted death. (See Hebrews 2:9) Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. If you were to look at what Hebrews 6:4 and 5 state you will see that this describes what you would think a Christian would be. (enlightened, tasted of the heavenly gift, partakers of the Holy Ghost, have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come) That is a description of what saved people experience as a result of salvation by the grace of God through faith. If Jesus did die then tasting is more than just a sample in the supermarket. The consequences of getting this wrong can lead to disaster. Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, Hebrews 6:5 and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, Hebrews 6:6 if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

@@brucemurray1749 That is right! This is speaking about believers. True Believers who if they fall away still remain saved because Christ saved us one time only and he is not going back up on the cross to save again the one who believes he has lost his salvation because he has fallen away and needs Christ to save him all over again ". This is a message to the Christians by the writer of Hebrews telling them it is impossible for that to happen and to not believe in a false doctrine of losing salvation because of falling away and to believe that Christ's first and only time on the cross was sufficient to keep everlasting life". God says that losing salvation could never happen because of our falling or failing and keeps us secure in him" . He gives us this wonderful promise in ( Psalms 145:13-14 ).

@@bereangirl7118 What do you understand "falling away" to mean? Definition of fall away (Entry 2 of 2) (“Fallaway.” Merriam-Webster.com Dictionary, Merriam-Webster, www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fallaway.) intransitive verb 1a: to withdraw friendship or support b: to renounce one's faith 2a: to diminish gradually in size b: to drift off a course

@@brucemurray121 As to falling away to sin and not as to losing ones Salvation". Sin has already been forgiven one time for us so we need not try to repent ( Believe again) that we still need to ask for forgiveness"

Not at all. God never said you cant lose your salvation. In fact the mere fact that Jesus warned against hell proves that we can lose our salvation. Because he's speaking to believers who are 'saved' when giving the warnings. 'Fornicators and homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom'

xxzzxx99 “I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one."” ‭‭John‬ ‭10:28-30‬ ‭ESV‬‬ So how do you explain this verse then

@@frankie9899 Context is everything. He's speaking post judgement. Once you're in heaven, no one can snatch them out of His hand..

@@frankie9899 The scriptures were not meant to be interpreted by individuals. They were meant to be discerned by the church Christ established. As you can see, i can argue my point with scriptural backing as can you. Who is right? Jesus foresaw this and gave authority to the church to determine what the scriptures mean. Because the bible is ambiguous in many places. You'll recall Jesus had to explain the scriptures in many places. His stories were hard to interpret, and often baffled his listeners.

xxzzxx99 You're the one who is twisting scripture knock it off Jesus said "No man can snatch them out of my Fathers hand or my Hand" if we were in heaven there would be no need to be in His hand but sense we're in this fallen world He has His children in His hand no one can snatch us out of his hand

Faith implies Obedience and Faithfulness (Commitment) John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has everlasting life, but whoever disobeys the Son won’t see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. Luke 6:46 Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do the things which I say? Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Luke 13:23-24 23 One said to him, “Lord, are they few who are saved?” He said to them, 24 “Strive to enter in by the narrow door, for many, I tell you, will seek to enter in, and will not be able. Now the myth of the sinning believer walking in darkness is put to rest by Jesus: John 8:12 Again, therefore, Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:31-36 31 Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, “If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. 32 You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” 33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say, ‘You will be made free?’” 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly I tell you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. 35 A slave does not live in the house forever. A son remains forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John 12:46-48 46 I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in me may not remain in the darkness. 47 And if anyone hears my words and does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He who rejects me, and does not accept my words, has one who judges him. The word that I spoke will judge him on the last day. Jude 1:5 Now I want to remind you, even though you are fully aware of these things, that the Lord who ONCE SAVED his people from the land of Egypt later DESTROYED those who did not believe.* Not atheists, but disobedient. Disobedience = unbelief Hebrews 3:7-19 7 Therefore, even as the Holy Spirit says, “Today if you will hear his voice, 8 do not harden your hearts, as in the provocation, like as in the day of the trial in the wilderness, 9 where your fathers tested me and challenged me, and saw my works for forty years. 10 Therefore I was displeased with this generation, and said, ‘They always err in their heart, but they did not know my ways;' 11 as I swore in my wrath, ‘They will not enter into my rest.’” 12 Beware, brothers, lest perhaps there be in any one of you an evil heart of UNBELIEF, in falling away from the living God; 13 but exhort one another day by day, so long as it is called “today;” lest any one of you be hardened by the DECEITFULNESS OF SIN. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our confidence firm to the end: 15 while it is said, “Today if you will hear his voice, do not harden your hearts, as in the rebellion.” 16 For who, when they heard, rebelled? No, did not all those who came out of Egypt by Moses? 17 With whom was he displeased forty years? Was not it with those who SINNED, whose bodies fell in the wilderness? 18 To whom did he swear that they would not enter into his rest, but to those who were DISOBEDIENT? 19 We see that they were not able to enter in because of UNBELIEF. 1 Corinthians 10:1-12 1 Now I would not have you ignorant, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 and were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 and all ate the same spiritual food; 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of a spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ. 5 However with most of them, God was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be idolaters, as some of them were. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8 Neither let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them committed, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell. 9 Neither let us test the Christ, as some of them tested, and perished by the serpents. 10 Neither grumble, as some of them also grumbled, and perished by the destroyer. 11 Now these things happened to them by way of example, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come. 12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands be careful that he does not fall.

YesToTheTruth Christians are saved by faith alone not good works good works obedience shows we are saved that’s why the thief on the cross got to go to heaven with jesus even though he never got to prove himself with obedience to god

YesToTheTruth I forgot to add the other verse that goes on top of the other verses “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they FOLLOW ME. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one."” ‭‭John‬ ‭10:27-30‬ ‭ESV‬‬ So I agree with you But good works don’t help us maintain our salvation we do good works because we are saved

Grace And Peace. Yes, it is ALL about *God's Strong Foundation!* Amen?: *"...The Foundation Of God Standeth SURE, Having This SEAL,* *The LORD KNOWETH them that are HIS! (2 Timothy 2 : 19!)* Note: the "truly" saved that "Did NOT depart from iniquity," will *LOSE rewards At the "truly" saved JUDGMENT! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)* continued in *God's GRACE And HIS EVERLASTING Salvation!...*

Truth 1_5a *God's EVERLASTING Salvation* To All Dear Readers, Grace and Peace to you. *LORD JESUS, Please* *Help Open our "understanding" Of God's Eternal Salvation:* There are three phases/tenses of salvation in the realm of SIN & DEATH that should help all of us even further understand: *Justification + Sanctification + Glorification = God's Eternal Salvation* : *[God, Who raises the dead] Who delivered us from [the penalty of sin]* *so great a death, and doth deliver [us from the power of sin]: in* *Whom we trust that He will yet deliver us [from the presence of sin]!* *(2 Corinthians 1 : 10!)* Penalty of sin [past tense] - God's Salvation (1) = One-Time DEBT Payment in FULL by The *BLOOD of The LORD JESUS CHRIST* = JUSTIFICATION! *(Romans 3 : 24-26, 5 : 9-10,16, 8 : 33; 1 Corinthians 6 : 11;* *Ephesians 2 : 6, 8-9; Titus 3 : 5-7; Ephesians 1 : 7; Colossians 1 : 14!)* *_Relationship_** Established By God's Eternal Salvation!:* {Cannot Be BROKEN!} =========== Note: “spiritual” faith (belief, trust) for God's Salvation ( Complete “faith” in *HIM, HIS Blood, And HIS Resurrection* ) from The Penalty of sin, can be likened to this “physical” analogy: At the airport you see an airplane and you “believe” (know in your mind) it will get you to your destination, correct? To actually get to your destination, what do you have to do? You have to completely “trust” (faith, believe in your heart) and actually get on board, and place your life into the hands of the pilot {TRUST}, that he will get you to your destination. The SAME *GRACE Through faith ["heart belief" {trust}]* *That God Requires ALL mankind* TODAY to put into: *The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS Blood, And Resurrection,* *For Forgiveness And Eternal Life!* Make sense? *God Desires "Relationship!"* with us, Not "religion." =================== *_Fellowship_** With God!:* {can be BROKEN by sin!} Power of sin [present tense] - we can ask for *God's GRACE* to deliver and help us overcome sin in time of need = “work out OUR 'OWN' salvation” = SANCTIFICATION: takes one's entire life to “Work Out” as we *"study/submit to HIM"* And Are Molded into The Likeness of The *LORD JESUS CHRIST!* (Romans 8 : 29, 12 : 1-2, 13 : 14; *2 Timothy 2* : 11-14, *15,* 19; Philippians 2 : 12, 3 : 20-21; 1 Corinthians 1 : 2; 2 Thessalonians 2 : 13) *Final Culmination of God's Eternal Salvation!* Presence of sin [future tense] - God's Salvation (2) = GLORIFICATION = *The LORD JESUS CHRIST Will Deliver us At THE Departure* *Of HIS Body From the earth (resurrection/rapture)!* *(1 Thessalonians 4 : 13-18; 1 Corinthians 15 : 51-55;* *Romans 8 : 17-18,30, 9 : 23!)* # But, one may ask: Is it not "possible" that "some {TRUE} BELIEVERS of TODAY may NOT" make it to this "future tense" of *God's ETERNAL Salvation?* #"This "probationary Confusion"# would, of course, then *make God a LIAR!:* *IF HE Does NOT Redeem:* *"The ENTIRE Purchased Possession!"* Amen?: *"In Whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard The Word Of Truth,* *the Gospel of your salvation: in Whom also after that ye believed,* *ye Were SEALED With That Holy Spirit Of Promise,* *which is THE EARNEST of our inheritance Until The REDEMPTION* *of the purchased possession, Unto The Praise Of HIS Glory!"* *(Ephesians 1 : 13-14 cp Ephesians 4 : 30!)* Of course, This Refers to the "Future Tense redemption of the ""body"", so, the 2/3 (Two-Thirds) of *God's ETERNAL Salvation, That He Has {Already}* *Completed in us, Must be Referring to "the soul and the spirit"* within us: *"Moreover whom HE Did Predestinate, them HE also called: and whom HE* *called, them HE also justified: and whom HE justified, them HE also glorified!"* *(Romans 5 : 10, 8 : 30 cp Romans 7 : 18; 1 Corinthians 5 : 5;* *2 Corinthians 4 : 17; Colossians 3 : 4; 1 Thessalonians 2 : 12;* *2 Thessalonians 2 1 : 12-14!)* Amen? *God Gets NO Glory, allowing* UNdeserving sinners the "probational" ability to SAVE THEMSELVES, and then "boasting" about it! *HE Made This Abundantly Plain And Clear In HIS Word Of TRUTH!:* *"For By GRACE # are ye saved through faith; and that NOT of yourselves:* *it is the gift of God: NOT of works, lest any man should BOAST!"* *(Ephesians 2 : 8-9!)* *# UNdeserved Kindness And Mercy From A LOVING Saviour!* Amen? Be Richly Blessed! continued In........................... *ALL Of God's LAW Scriptures!*

Friend, *When CHRIST "DIED FOR ALL my sins!* they were ALL "future!* *Praise The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HE "Left them ALL In The TOMB,* *When HE AROSE As my ETERNAL LIVING Saviour!!* Amen?

Grace And Peace. *CONTEXT = "UNbelieving Jews!" = Precisely why *HEBREWS! (To God's Chosen* *Nation of ISRAEL!)* DOES NOT "apply" to *us In The Body Of CHRIST!! What Does "APPLY" to us, IS!:* *# Romans - Philemon = God's GRACE Love Letters For us Today For:* *Consolation, Comfort, Edification, Enjoyment, Encouragement, And* *spiritual Building Up Of ALL the "members' (saints!) In* *The Body Of CHRIST!, HIS Church, Seated In HEAVEN!* Amen?

GRACE ambassador You wrote: _"Note: the "truly" saved that "Did NOT depart from iniquity," will LOSE rewards At the "truly" saved JUDGMENT! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!) Seems to me that being *"cut asunder"* and *"appointed his portion with the unbelievers"* (Luke 24:45,46) goes beyond just losing rewards. Jesus' warning in John 15:6 is similar: *"If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."* ▬▬▬▬ You wrote _"Friend, When CHRIST "DIED FOR ALL my sins! they were ALL "future!* Praise The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HE "Left them ALL In The TOMB, When HE AROSE As my ETERNAL LIVING Saviour!! Amen?"_ Sorry, but Jesus is *"the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him"* (Hebrews 5:9). Real believers, like Abraham, act on their faith and obey God. Abraham's "works" was his obedience: heading to the promised land; offering Isaac. *"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only"* (James 2:24). *"Through faith"* (Eph 2:8) we may choose to obey and *"come to God"* (Hebrews 11:6) on His terms, and have our past sins blotted out: *"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord"* (KJV). *"Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord"* (NKJV). *"Now repent of your sins and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped away"* (NLT). *"Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord"* (RSV). *"Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, so that there may come times of refreshing from the presence of the Lord"* (HNV). Those of you who are observant will realize, now, that our sins were NOT blotted out on the cross. Our sins remain, and are neither blotted out nor wiped away, until we repent of them. So why did Jesus come? To give His life and make a ransom available: *"Even as the son of man came, not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and give his life a ransom for many"* (Matthew 20:28). Thanks to Jesus we can now be redeemed - with His ransom - from the death penalty we have earned as the "wages" (Rom 6:23) of past sin. Who gets that mercy, that grace, that redemption? *"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy."* (Prov. 28:13) *"Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him . . ."* (Isaiah 55:7)

"christians" who were NEVER saved "in the first place" ARE NOT "christians!," eh?

+GRACE ambassador (bro Chris) The Christians that recieve the baptism of the Holy Spirit need to follow Christ commandments for the spiritual growth and to become mature.

+GRACE ambassador (bro Chris) And when he become mature and complete in all Christ righteousness he no longer practice sin but it Christ lives in him.

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:8-9 - If you are involved in any of these false denominations, get out as soon as possible! - NOW, PROOF FROM THE WORD OF GOD OF PEOPLE LIVING ABSOLUTELY WICKED & STILL SAVED : - I hope the following Biblical examples from both the Old and New Testament time periods will be helpful to you. Lets begin : - The Corinthian Christians of the apostle Paul's time in the New Testament era certainly would convince many people that they were "unsaved" or "had lost their salvation." Their lives were deplorable and were living in gross sin and immorality, but Paul affirmed the fact that they were saved in 1 Corinthians 3:1 as he addressed them as "brethren" that were "carnal babes in Christ". Paul would not have addressed them in that way if they were not saved. - 1.) 1 Corinthians 3:3 - there was ENVYING, STRIFE, and DIVISIONS among the Christians. - 2.) 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 - A CHRISTIAN MAN WAS HAVING SEX WITH HIS STEPMOTHER and consequently Paul pronounced judgment on this man in 1 Corinthians 5:5 where Paul says, "hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be SAVED on the day of the Lord". The Corinthian Christian's attitude regarding this man who was sleeping with his stepmother was one of PRIDE - 1 Cor 5:2 - In 2 Corinthians 2:5-8, Paul gives an update on this man where we read that this man was chastened with CHURCH DISCIPLINE and that God had mercy on him and did not terminate his physical life. Paul instructs the church to forgive and comfort him so that he won't be overcome by excessive sorrow and to reaffirm their love and concern for him. - 2 Corinthians 2:5-8 - But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all. Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was INFLICTED BY MANY. So that contrariwise ye ought rather to FORGIVE HIM, AND COMFORT HIM, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow. - Wherefore I beseech you that ye would CONFIRM YOUR LOVE TOWARD HIM. - 3.) 1 Corinthians 4:18 - there was ARROGANCE among the Corinthian Christians. - 4.) 1 Corinthians 6:7-8 - THERE WERE CHRISTIANS TAKING OTHER CHRISTIANS TO COURT and there was CHEATING among them. - 5.) 1 Corinthians 7:2 - there was FORNICATION among the Christians. - 6.) 1 Corinthians 11:20-22 - there were Christians EATING SELFISHLY, and there was DRUNKENESS at the Lord's Supper. Because of their selfish indulgence of food and getting drunk God brought about SICKNESS and PHYSICAL DEATH as punishment - 1 Cor 11:29-30. - Scripture is clear that there are indeed carnal Christians that are saved. It's not good or spiritually edifying that they are living in sin. God will punish them because they are His children, but they are still saved - Hebrews 12:5-11. The book of 1 Corinthians confirms the reality of carnal Christians and Paul affirmed that they are eternally saved by addressing them as "sanctified in Christ Jesus" and "saints" in 1 Cor 1:2. - Paul addresses them as "brethren" in 1 Cor 2:1, as "brethren" and "carnal' "babes in Christ" in 1 Cor 3:1, as "brethren" in 1 Cor 4:6, as "brethren" in 1 Cor 10:1, as "brethren" in 1 Cor 11:2, as "brethren" in 1 Cor 12:1, as "brethren" in 1 Cor 14:20, as "brethren" in 1 Cor 15:1, as "brethren" in 1 Cor 15:58. (KJV) - The above list in 1 Corinthians where Paul repeatedly addressed the Corinthian Christians as "brethren" is overwhelming evidence that these are saved people possessing eternal life. Paul would not have addressed them as "brethren" if they were not saved. - Self-righteous Calvinists/Lordship Salvationists would of course deliberately deny the existence of carnal Christians and would deliberately write off carnal Christians as "unsaved" despite overwhelming evidence from Scripture. - People in the Old Testament were saved the exact same way as people in New Testament times, otherwise the apostle Paul would not have quoted Genesis 15:6 in Romans 4:2-6, and Galatians 3:6 in support of the gospel. - 1.) Samson is a true man of God and at the same time a FORNICATOR - Judges 16:1. As a painful consequence of his fornication, Samson was captured by the Philistines and had both eyes gouged out - Judges 16:21, and the Philistines also degraded and ridiculed Samson publicly - Judges 16:25. Samson's last prayer just before his simultaneous murder/suicide was NOT a prayer of repentance, but was a request to God to strengthen him so that he could get REVENGE on the Philistines for the loss of his 2 eyes. Then in Judges 16:28-30, Samson commits a simultaneous MURDER/SUICIDE.Yet Samson is listed as a Godly man of faith in Hebrews 11:32. Samson would not be listed there if he was unsaved. Samson is a true man of God who is saved as indicated in Judges 13:7, and Judges 13:24. - 2.) KING DAVID is a true man of God who committed ADULTERY/MURDER - 2 Samuel 11:1-21. This happened despite the fact that King David had over 6 wives at the time - 2 Samuel 3:1-5, 2 Samuel 5:13. God chastised King David with a series of painful consequences, but his eternal salvation was never in question. - 3.) King Saul is a man of God who was rejected by God and had his kingship and the kingdom of Israel stripped away because of his disobedience to God in not doing a thorough job in wiping out the Amalekites, but in 1 Samuel 28:18-19, the spirit of Samuel clearly indicated to Saul that the next day Saul and his sons will be dead and be with Samuel. Being in the same place with Samuel means that Saul and his sons are SAVED. - God withheld mercy from Saul as indicated in 2 Samuel 7:15 for his blatant disobedience, but not Saul's salvation. The issue was MERCY, not salvation. Of course, men like Gene Kim, Robert Breaker, and Kevin Thompson will no doubt use 2 Samuel 7:15 as one of their "proof texts" in support of their false teaching that Saul lost his salvation and went to hell, but 1 Samuel 28:18-19 teaches differently. - 4.) King Solomon is a true man of God, but became a serial polygamist and DEMON WORSHIPER at the end of his life - 1 Kings 11:1-13. Solomon even built 2 altars to the 2 demon gods, Chemosh and Molech in 1 Kings 11:7. Molech was a demon god that required child sacrifices - a Satanic practice. (The practice of sacrificing one's sons/daughters in the fire - Leviticus 18:21, 2 Kings 23:10) THIS WAS KING SOLOMON. Solomon persisted in his sins despite God warning him TWICE - 1 Kings 9:2 - 6, 1 Kings 11:9-11. Because of Solomon's defiance, God declared to Solomon that He would tear away a major portion of his kingdom, but do it in his son's generation because of God's covenant with Solomon's father, King David. - God then brought 3 adversaries against Solomon - 1 Kings 11:14, 23, 26. Then we read that Solomon tried to commit MURDER in 1 Kings 11:40. Nowhere in Scripture does it ever say that Solomon "lost his salvation" or "never had it to begin with." - 5.) Lot is a man of God, but we read in Genesis 19:6-8 that Lot offers up his 2 daughters for SEX to the homosexuals who surrounded his house and in Genesis 19:31-36 we read that he has sex with both his daughters getting them pregnant. This was clearly a case of INCEST. Yet Peter refers to Lot as a RIGHTEOUS MAN in 2 Peter 2:7-8 and Peter would not have referred to him as "RIGHTEOUS" if Lot was unsaved. - 6.) Moses is a man of God who committed the MURDER of an Egyptian - Exodus 2:12. - 7.) Noah is a man of God who got DRUNK and WENT NAKED in his tent - Genesis 9:21. - 8.) Jacob is a man of God who was also a SWINDLER as he kept all the best livestock for himself, but left all the weak and defective ones for his father in law Laban. Jacob and his mother Rebekah are both LIARS and DECEIVERS as they both deceived Isaac in stealing the blessing meant for Esau - Genesis 27:1-29. - 9.) Abraham is a LIAR as he lied about his wife Sarah being his sister. - 10.) The prophet Isaiah is a true man of God, but he was also a man of UNCLEAN LIPS - Isaiah 6:5. - Hope this helps! - (Disclaimer don't be a carnal Christian, you miss out on fellowship, rewards in Heaven, and the blessed words of Christ: "well done my faithful servant." - ~AMEN, Let's save souls! and not be tools of the devil to be a hypocritical,""sinless" Pringle" Christian. Because who is saving them? Sad.. - "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."- 2 Timothy 3:7 "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."- 2 Peter 3:16 "Let him without sin throw the first stone.." - Jesus Christ

@@ethanbruner1383 yes

Faith implies Obedience and Faithfulness (Commitment) John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has everlasting life, but whoever disobeys the Son won’t see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. Luke 6:46 Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do the things which I say? Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Luke 13:23-24 23 One said to him, “Lord, are they few who are saved?” He said to them, 24 “Strive to enter in by the narrow door, for many, I tell you, will seek to enter in, and will not be able. Now the myth of the sinning believer walking in darkness is put to rest by Jesus: John 8:12 Again, therefore, Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:31-36 31 Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, “If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. 32 You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” 33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say, ‘You will be made free?’” 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly I tell you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. 35 A slave does not live in the house forever. A son remains forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. Jesus spoke much more than John 3:16. Tell me what category I fall into for believing in Jesus' whole message? See John 12:46-48! Jude 1:5 Now I want to remind you, even though you are fully aware of these things, that the Lord who ONCE SAVED his people from the land of Egypt later DESTROYED those who did not believe.* Not atheists, but disobedient. Disobedience = unbelief Hebrews 3:7-19 7 Therefore, even as the Holy Spirit says, “Today if you will hear his voice, 8 do not harden your hearts, as in the provocation, like as in the day of the trial in the wilderness, 9 where your fathers tested me and challenged me, and saw my works for forty years. 10 Therefore I was displeased with this generation, and said, ‘They always err in their heart, but they did not know my ways;' 11 as I swore in my wrath, ‘They will not enter into my rest.’” 12 Beware, brothers, lest perhaps there be in any one of you an evil heart of UNBELIEF, in falling away from the living God; 13 but exhort one another day by day, so long as it is called “today;” lest any one of you be hardened by the DECEITFULNESS OF SIN. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our confidence firm to the end: 15 while it is said, “Today if you will hear his voice, do not harden your hearts, as in the rebellion.” 16 For who, when they heard, rebelled? No, did not all those who came out of Egypt by Moses? 17 With whom was he displeased forty years? Was not it with those who SINNED, whose bodies fell in the wilderness? 18 To whom did he swear that they would not enter into his rest, but to those who were DISOBEDIENT? 19 We see that they were not able to enter in because of UNBELIEF. 1 Corinthians 10:1-12 1 Now I would not have you ignorant, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 and were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 and all ate the same spiritual food; 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of a spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ. 5 However with most of them, God was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be idolaters, as some of them were. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8 Neither let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them committed, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell. 9 Neither let us test the Christ, as some of them tested, and perished by the serpents. 10 Neither grumble, as some of them also grumbled, and perished by the destroyer. 11 Now these things happened to them by way of example, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come. 12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands be careful that he does not fall.

@@yestothetruth Well if you follow back to its logical conclusion no one Is going to heaven because no one can do that That's the reason why Jesus did it for us

You are correct in your understanding of the Scriptures. Peace to you!

YesToTheTruth Thankyou! Shalom.

Deepika Ravi You're welcome! Shalom.

Enduring to the end is referring to Tribulation...If you endur without receiving the mark...

You workers of the flesh can never be justified in the sight of God although that is what you still believe will save you as you keep passing this false doctrine to others who still do not quite understand the true mercy and grace in Christ>. That is why Christ came so we could be justified by faith in him and not by the flesh" ". Paul was speaking about preaching and his ministry and afraid of being disqualified for being ineffective for not completing and winning the race for the reward which would come only if he completed the task of ministry well . Not about being disqualified from salvation"

This is the gospel in our age of Grace. Believe this and you shall be saved. Jesus and the 12 Apostles preached 'Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins." Paul was raised up as our Apostle to the Gentiles after Israel fell with the stoning of Stephen. They rejected John the Baptist, Jesus and Stephen so God has put them aside. Christ revealed to Paul 7 mysteries, one of them is being saved by grace, not by works lest any man should boast. It is nothing we do or can do to be saved except believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ and that His blood was shed for all sin in the past, present and future. I follow Christ through Paul (Romans-Philemon) as 'our letters' to us today. I hope that helps.

Jennifer Crawford amen sister amen

Pedro Lavor that's the gospel clear as day

xxzzxx99 yes there are consequences but God doesn’t want any of us in hell. If we live for Him our reward will be great in Heaven and if not God isn’t gonna disown you if you’re truly born again. A man born of God can’t continue in sin. It hurts us if we do

@@isaiahaskew5753 i said there were no eternal consequences if you cant lose salvation. What are the eternal consequences?

No point in avoiding sin? By no means! I believe in Eternal Security and I try to avoid sin and crucify my flesh daily. Not due to fear of loss of salvation but out of a sincere desire to Love God and obey him and to praise him and to worship him in spirit and truth for what he’s done for me. I love him and he loves me. Perfect love cast our fear

That is the gospel. You are saved by grace through faith but you decide if you want to use your freedom to sin or not. The issue of the condemnation and penalty of sin was resolved on the cross.

Ireneo Bernal the His commandments are that we believe on Him and love one another end of story bye bye see you later

Heed the warnings.

Yes!

John 10-28 says no one can snatch us from his hand and he gives us eternal life he goes on to say it again to make it clear so are you calling god a liar? Ephesians 1:13 says the moment we believed the gospel we were sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption how can we be unsealed? Jesus paid the price for our sins forever we are sealed if we believe him

@@dominicariannaserviss3287 No, I'm not calling God a liar. I'm telling you that you are taking scriptures out of context. For example you quote John 10:28 but left off vers 27... My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 10:27‭-‬28 My sheep HEAR....that is a present tense word. LETS BALANCE SCRIPTURE WITH SCRIPTURE And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4

Cw Hatfield okay? Lol it doesn’t say he isn’t saved people can be saved and not have truth

@@dominicariannaserviss3287 WOW. Did you even read what you wrote?? Jesus called them a LIAR ......all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:.... Revelation 21:8 KJV So no they are not saved What funny Bible are you reading to make such a statement that someone can be saved without truth? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

That's where I messed up😢😢😢

Where in biblical prophecy is leading people astray by this teaching shown in scripture "?. Passages please".

@@bereangirl7118 2 Timothy 4:3 but start reading it from the beginning of the message at chapter 3

It's not the laws made by man of circumcision, eating, holidays etc that matters but sin does. It's all through out the new testament to live righteous because Christ Jesus lives in us.

There's no law against living in righteousness but there is against being disobedience. This guy takes a scripture from here or there and doesn't continue with the entire message of the texts

@@bereangirl7118 I hope this helps you to understand

The greek word for perish there is to be destroyed in hell

So a person's will power is what saves them?

@@nameeman9108 No, it's the grace of God that people receive that saves them (Titus 2:11-14, Romans 6:12-15). It has an effect on how they live. They are empowered to live righteously and godly, which is what's pleasing to God. They do have to be "willing" to surrender 100% to God and be faithfully obedient to Him to inherit eternal life. Romans 2:4-11 4 Or do you despise the riches of his goodness, forbearance, and patience, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But according to your hardness and unrepentant heart you are storing up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 who “will pay back to everyone according to their works:” 7 to those who by perseverance in good works seek glory and honor and immortality -- everlasting life. 8 But to those who are self-seeking, and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness -- wrath and anger, 9 affliction and distress, on every human being who does evil, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 10 But glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God. How a person walks matters. A saved person who no longer is under the power of sin (Romans 6:14) should be careful to walk according to the "new way" that is possible to a new creation in Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17; Ephesians 4:17-24).

@@yestothetruth I was being sarcastic with the OP. I believe the same as you

@@nameeman9108 Ok, well, that's an occasion to rejoice. :) Peace to you!

You need to continue that if you believe in Christ you need to follow His command. The new testament churches teaches us that after His death on the cross. All believers shall follow Christ command that will make them grow into maturity. Biblical churches history proves us that everyone that believes in Christ does not recieved once save always save. The truth is they work as what Christ commanded in the churches. They are not save if they dont follow what Christ had commanded into them to make them grow into holiness and perfection.

I recommend you lookup this message on KZfaq: _Born Again Through Repentance And Faith_ by Zac Poonen. You can start listening at 23:38. You will be able to determine if you had once heard the true Gospel to begin with. You cannot lose something you never had, that's for sure, but whatever the case may be, by the end of the message, you will have heard the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and will know the way to be saved. Peace to you!

No cause you have belief now. You are saved by believing and trusting in Christ. If you believe now ur saved. If you die in unbelief thats what it is

I saw your other comments. What may be clear to you isn't clear to most people and there are false teachings about salvation, then other false teachings about assurance of salvation to cover it all up. It's a huge satanic operation. People the Bible says are of the devil for going on sinning (1 John 3:8) are calling themselves "born again." That's happening. If they are backslidden, they see no way that they can lose their relationship with God altogether (that's what would be "losing salvation"). They aren't warned to repent. But Jesus clearly warned backslidden people in five out of seven churches in Revelation 2 and 3 and told them that they'd better repent or they would be cut off/lose their place in Him or their "salvation" (said in different ways). Jesus was addressing saved people who were unfaithful to Him and not walking the way they ought to walk. Faithfulness to the end in righteousness and holiness, even unto death (Revelation 2:10) is absolutely necessary. Salvation is a process that involves walking that walk of faithful obedience to God. Most preachers preach salvation as a one day irreversible event regardless of subsequent conduct. And the walk of most Christians is not "the way of righteousness" (2 Peter 2:21). There is no cross in it, which is exactly the calamity the apostle Paul wrote about in Philippians 3:18 "For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ."

M'Naghten rule of insanity.

The Path To Hell Lordship salvation is not the gospel you think you can add your works to what Jesus did? Did Jesus not say "IT IS FINISHED" you are trying to follow teachings that are BEFORE the cross. Jesus's Earthly ministry is for THE LOST HOUSE OF ISREAL. Did he not say that himself? The dispensation of Grace didn't start until after the cross. Paul is our apostle whom Jesus gave our revelation. 2 Timothy 2:15 Rightly divide the word of truth! Andrew Farley, Yankee Arnold. Richard Jordan, Robert Breaker and pastor Kim are a few examples of preachers who teach the actual gospel! Paul washer, john piper, ray comfort are teachers of lordship salvation and that is not the gospel.

Matthew Curley sounds like salvation without repentance... just try your hardest... make sure to give a list of sins that are permissible to people you’re trying to lead to the Lord so they know what they can and can’t do

Hello Path to Hell, Always interesting when someone replies and jumps to the wrong conclusion without understanding what has actually been conveyed. What is repentance and how many times are you to do it? We do not need legalism shoved down our throats , we need to understand what has been accomplished and when we do we can live for the Lord and no that does not give anyone license to sin . So in all the years of your christian experience are you now much less sinful than you were?

I have a hard time believing someone who has truly believed the Gospel and is born again is gonna turn around and kill their whole family, or go out and molest kids. I know people are capable of some evil things, but that sounds pretty far fetched. To commit an act of sin, and to live a lifestyle of practicing unrepentant sin are two different things when you read and compare the scriptures. The churches in Corinth and in Galatia were out of alignment (like a car). Corinth was going far to the left - a guy sleeps with his father's wife, and they say "no problem, grace will cover that". While the Galatians had gone too far to the right - they were more strict than God. Teachers were adding things to the Gospel, teaching that God's grace wasn't enough. Paul had to get 'em both back in line.

No need to be scared though if you choose Christ and what he did for us by shedding his blood so we can be saved. We just need to accept it with all our hearts. Ask him to forgive our many sins and thank him for Salvation. Take up your own cross and follow him to Glory. And from then on, knowing you are saved by His grace, mercy, and love for us, smile and know, through faith, that you are truly saved and that the Holy Spirit dwells within you. Fear not!

TTundragrizzly thank you dear friend

Faith implies Obedience and Faithfulness (Commitment) John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has everlasting life, but whoever disobeys the Son won’t see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. Luke 6:46 Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do the things which I say? Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Luke 13:23-24 23 One said to him, “Lord, are they few who are saved?” He said to them, 24 “Strive to enter in by the narrow door, for many, I tell you, will seek to enter in, and will not be able. Now the myth of the sinning believer walking in darkness is put to rest by Jesus: John 8:12 Again, therefore, Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:31-36 31 Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, “If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. 32 You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” 33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say, ‘You will be made free?’” 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly I tell you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. 35 A slave does not live in the house forever. A son remains forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John 12:46-48 46 I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in me may not remain in the darkness. 47 And if anyone hears my words and does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He who rejects me, and does not accept my words, has one who judges him. The word that I spoke will judge him on the last day. Jude 1:5 Now I want to remind you, even though you are fully aware of these things, that the Lord who ONCE SAVED his people from the land of Egypt later DESTROYED those who did not believe.* Not atheists, but disobedient. Disobedience = unbelief Hebrews 3:7-19 7 Therefore, even as the Holy Spirit says, “Today if you will hear his voice, 8 do not harden your hearts, as in the provocation, like as in the day of the trial in the wilderness, 9 where your fathers tested me and challenged me, and saw my works for forty years. 10 Therefore I was displeased with this generation, and said, ‘They always err in their heart, but they did not know my ways;' 11 as I swore in my wrath, ‘They will not enter into my rest.’” 12 Beware, brothers, lest perhaps there be in any one of you an evil heart of UNBELIEF, in falling away from the living God; 13 but exhort one another day by day, so long as it is called “today;” lest any one of you be hardened by the DECEITFULNESS OF SIN. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our confidence firm to the end: 15 while it is said, “Today if you will hear his voice, do not harden your hearts, as in the rebellion.” 16 For who, when they heard, rebelled? No, did not all those who came out of Egypt by Moses? 17 With whom was he displeased forty years? Was not it with those who SINNED, whose bodies fell in the wilderness? 18 To whom did he swear that they would not enter into his rest, but to those who were DISOBEDIENT? 19 We see that they were not able to enter in because of UNBELIEF. 1 Corinthians 10:1-12 1 Now I would not have you ignorant, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 and were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 and all ate the same spiritual food; 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of a spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ. 5 However with most of them, God was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be idolaters, as some of them were. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8 Neither let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them committed, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell. 9 Neither let us test the Christ, as some of them tested, and perished by the serpents. 10 Neither grumble, as some of them also grumbled, and perished by the destroyer. 11 Now these things happened to them by way of example, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come. 12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands be careful that he does not fall.

@@yestothetruth We who are saved by His Grace are not under the law. We are under His promise of Salvation. We are saved by the shedding of His blood. Of course a disobedient unsaved person will not see the Kingdom of Heaven. The blood of Jesus covered all sin for those who believe. Once and for all. His blood does NOT have limits. His love and mercy is everlasting. The key is to be born again firstly. Then His blood applies. Those who are not born again and recieve a new heart will not see life. A born again believer will still sin. But we are cleansed. Our desire is to honor Him. Our desire to sin is no more. But when we do ( as everyone does), we stand back up and thank the Lord for His mercy and forgiveness, by the blood of the Lamb.

YesToTheTruth what you said is a rather worthy saying but Matthew 7:21-23 is found in John 6:39-40 KJV. A lot of what you're reading comes from the corrupt bibles not the KJV becareful dear friend

What about a person who has been saved but then later turns to a career in, say, pornography. Does such a person remain saved?

Let truth be told are you saying that those who turn to that can't be saved. They're saved they just fall to a bad time in their lives. You can't loose salvation but can lose fellowship with God but you can't loose salvation Jesus paid all of it there is no salvation in us our fellowship with God is kept by us our salvation is kept by God He always had a plan to redeem us how great is our God?

JR amen brother amen

Janina Simons, 1 Corinthians 3:15 OSAS is true but there are various people who look at the free GIFT of salvation as not justifiable in their minds and they will continuously condemn people who do not believe as they do . When you accepted the free gift of salvation Acts 2:37-38 , you are saved. Phil 1:6 no time limit you have salvation whether later on you want it or not. So in this OSAS is true 1 Cor 3:15 however if you did not accept the Lord then obviously OSAS does not apply to you anyway and that would be the unforgiveable sin in my opinion. Bill means well but is overwhelmed by justice vs getting a free gift that he can not understand or work for. Yes there are those of us who get fed up with trying so hard to live up to other Christians expectations and we fall by the wayside . It is not the Lords fault and we really do not need to condemn Him for the actions of self righteous Christians who believe there way is the only way. Just remember God is our final judge and He knows your heart far better than yourself or any other christian that comes along. He knows why you fail , why you get frustrated with the christian walk and how you can misplace your faith so easily. He knows when you actually repent , when you are sorry for anything and He knows that we as Christians will lie to ourselves so easily to be what we think God wants us to be when we have peer pressure to help us along.

Amen, Bruce! ALL Janina's questions are irrelevant *Due To This Scripture!* *FOR ALL Of Today's Body Of CHRIST! = "...CHOSEN In HIM BEFORE:* *The Foundation of the world!..." = God Said So In Ephesians 1 : 4!* Be *RICHLY BLESSED In HIM!!!* bro Chris

He did mention the unforgivable sin as being the denial of Christ . Those who walk away were never in Christ . Jesus says to them , i NEVER knew you . Matthew 7:21-23

+Bruce W McLaughlin No man or religion can decide if the person is OSAS. It is a gift from God. A work from the Holy Spirit as stated in Romans 8:14.. As many that are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. The tense there is a continuing present tense. As many that are regularly led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

+GRACE ambassador (bro Chris) The choosen are those who are faithful to follow not the Old Laws but to Christ commandments.

Hello x. I agree with you. I used to think that once saved always saved until I asked the Holy Ghost to teach me Scripture and now many years later I have been finding out sooooo many things that I have been taught was wrong wrong wrong! Pastors are leading people down the wrong path. Keep being led by the Holy Ghost x and may the Lord show you favor and keep you strong because the road is going to get bumpy.

Christ give us a new commands to keep under His authority and not from the Old law that bring us into all righteousness in the obidience of these command by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The law of Christ is to established the spiritual law wich is the law of the Spirit.

+Voices Networking Ministries Yes, Christ saves us from the Old law but bring us a new and a better law under His authority through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Saving us from the Old law does not mean once save always save. By faith we recieve Christ but by faith we recieve the baptism of the Holy Spirit so that we can follow the commandmends of Christ that will lead us into all righteousness. God shake all things in heaven and earth. All faith are tested.We are under grace through the death of Christ but it doesnt mean that we dont need to obey Christ command as the new covenant.

If you are truly born again the Spirit of Christ now lives in you. Proper NT teaching is that we are to filled with the Spirit. Then we won’t fulfill the lusts of the flesh. It’s that simple. If we do sin, we have an Advocate that forgives and cleanses from ALL unrighteousness. Be FREE from Sin and become a Slave of Righteousness. It’s His work.

Well if someone is simply looking for a license to sin and do whatever they want, then they were never saved to begin with, because someone who is truly saved wants to strive for Jesus because they truly love him. I personally believe that once you are saved, you are always saved, not as a license to live in willful sin, but because I am trusting what Jesus did on the cross, and not of my own works.

Point taken.

Because we need to follow the commandments of Christ and Farley did not realise that because He think that there were no law anymore. The truth is we are not under the law of Moses that was Christ bring us into. We will be saved if we believe that He is the one that send by the Father to save us from the curse of the law of Moses. The Bible tells us that we are no longer under the authority of Old laws but under the authority of Christ as a new covenant promised by God. The changing of Old law into a new one. It is only change but the law is still there and it is not the law of Moses but the law of Christ.

xxzzxx99 because your body is the temp of Jesus and it should be treated accordingly. But you not doing that doesn't save you. We keep His commandments OUT OF LOVE for Him and what He did for us not so we can have eternal life. If that were the case nobody would be going to Heaven. Galatians 2:21

Because you could be in danger of committing the "Sin Unto Death". This is when a True Believer continually and willfully sins and God takes your physical life but not your Salvation. People think we have a licenses to sin. Not true. God will take you if you willfully sin and will not stop, but you still belong to Him, you still go to heaven, He just won't allow you to live your earthly life anymore.

xxzzxx99 if you are born again you don’t want that. You are a new creation. And if you do it God will punish you on this earth.

You can lose your salvation because Scriptures says you can. You are once again correct x. Keep on learning my friend.

xxzzxx99 satan rebelled out of choice God doesn't love the angels like He loves us He made the way for our salvation He didn't make away for the demons to be redeemed we have ETERNAL life and are SEALED by the Holy Spirit

@@ianfortuna9385no point debating it really. The larger debate is about who has authority to interpret scripture. If we are all free to determine what the bible means then we will all be wrong.

xxzzxx99 well this is the thing you won't get anywhere by just reading one part of the Bible you have to let the scriptures speak for themselves read into them and Trust in the finished work of Christ.

@@ianfortuna9385 its still just you interpreting scripture. Scripture is ambiguous. If what you're saying is true, then the mormons are right, Andrew Fairley is right, Luther is right, the anglicans are right and the Catholics are right. And we know this cannot be therefore your premise is false

Are you keeping ALL the commandments? Break one and ALL are broken and you are lost.........with only one way out....accept the free gift of GRACE from Jesus.........not one human is sinless today....... James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.

+Vulcancruiser You are talking about the Old Covenant Laws. I am talking about the New Covenant Laws the commandments of Christ.

Ireneo Bernal you're the one who is unsaved and youre going to hell youre calling God a liar if we can lose our salvation you're calling God a liar.

@@ianfortuna9385 Jude 1:5 Now I want to remind you, even though you are fully aware of these things, that the Lord who ONCE SAVED his people from the land of Egypt later DESTROYED those who did not believe.* Not atheists, but disobedient. Disobedience = unbelief Hebrews 3:7-19 7 Therefore, even as the Holy Spirit says, “Today if you will hear his voice, 8 do not harden your hearts, as in the provocation, like as in the day of the trial in the wilderness, 9 where your fathers tested me and challenged me, and saw my works for forty years. 10 Therefore I was displeased with this generation, and said, ‘They always err in their heart, but they did not know my ways;' 11 as I swore in my wrath, ‘They will not enter into my rest.’” 12 Beware, brothers, lest perhaps there be in any one of you an evil heart of UNBELIEF, in falling away from the living God; 13 but exhort one another day by day, so long as it is called “today;” lest any one of you be hardened by the DECEITFULNESS OF SIN. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our confidence firm to the end: 15 while it is said, “Today if you will hear his voice, do not harden your hearts, as in the rebellion.” 16 For who, when they heard, rebelled? No, did not all those who came out of Egypt by Moses? 17 With whom was he displeased forty years? Was not it with those who SINNED, whose bodies fell in the wilderness? 18 To whom did he swear that they would not enter into his rest, but to those who were DISOBEDIENT? 19 We see that they were not able to enter in because of UNBELIEF. 1 Corinthians 10:1-12 1 Now I would not have you ignorant, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 and were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 and all ate the same spiritual food; 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of a spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ. 5 However with most of them, God was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be idolaters, as some of them were. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8 Neither let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them committed, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell. 9 Neither let us test the Christ, as some of them tested, and perished by the serpents. 10 Neither grumble, as some of them also grumbled, and perished by the destroyer. 11 Now these things happened to them by way of example, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come. 12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands be careful that he does not fall.

YesToTheTruth remember Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works he had whereof to glory BUT NOT BEFORE GOD Romans 4:5 But to him that WORKETH NOT BUT BELIEVE ON HIM THAT JUSTIFIETH THE UNGOLDY HIS FAITH IS COUNTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Romans 11:6 And if it be by grace then it is no more of works, other wise grace is no more grace. But if be by works, then it is no more grace. Otherwise work is no more work. Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God, for if righteousness comes by the Law then CHRIST IS DEAD IN VAIN.

@@stacyanninaz5181 But Judas casted out demons

@@stacyanninaz5181 But Judas casted out demons

Judas called Jesus "Rabbi' , not Lord.

If we can lose our salvation then everyone is going to hell you nor I nor anyone can keep themselves saved wrap your tiny mind around that.