Can you Sharpen With Concrete

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100 Cuts every hair (75 Is sharpest steel posible)
200 Will cut most hair, but will miss a few
300 Fine for most planning but too dull for difficult smoothing
400 Still cuts but you start to feel resistance
500 Rarely let most planes get more dull than this
600 Might let a scrub plane get this dull
700 Average joe thinks this is sharp
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Can you sharpen with concrete? You can sharpen hand tools with anything harder than the steel you are working. Some sharpening methods are easier and some are difficult, but you do not need the best to get the results.
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@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
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@isaach1447
@isaach1447 Жыл бұрын
With all of the ambiguity in sharpening lore, I’m glad to see some concrete facts. (Bad-duh-duh🥁
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
oh I like that one!
@faramund9865
@faramund9865 Жыл бұрын
Badum ts*
@jackson2uk
@jackson2uk Жыл бұрын
Quick, run,...... its becoming contagious.
@jsmxwll
@jsmxwll Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I was taught a basic version of the three plate method to get a brick or block flat enough to sharpen tools. My old man was a mason, and we didn't need a lot of super sharp tools, but sometimes you did and a flat enough block/brick wasn't always available. The three plate method is overkill for most needs. If you just take two blocks, get some water between them and rub them back and forth in a somewhat random pattern including some turns and flipping which one is on top, you'll have a flat enough surface in a couple minutes. That's pretty much all you need for most garden tools and such. Even without a strop, you can use a red brick to get a knife blade shaving sharp as long as you flatten it first.
@AllanMacMillan
@AllanMacMillan Жыл бұрын
This proves that the "right way" to sharpen is to pick a method, any method, and work to develop the skill. At the end of the day it doesn't matter how you get to a sharp edge, just that you have the skill to make and maintain one.
@davidseccombe9809
@davidseccombe9809 Жыл бұрын
Im a landscaper and i recently taught my apprentice how to sharpen using a porcelain tile and a piece of cement board (villa board i think it's sometimes called). It works great when on site
@kelvinsparks4651
@kelvinsparks4651 Жыл бұрын
A concrete block is quite a good sharpening medium. On my babs cow shed the concrete block wall is worn to a hollow because its were he sharpend his pocket knife for decades.
@MemphisCorollaS
@MemphisCorollaS Жыл бұрын
Dude!!! That collaboration is going to be insanely awesome👍 can’t wait
@g5flyr169
@g5flyr169 Жыл бұрын
Great illustration of how knowledge and skill can overcome a lack of material goods. Well done James.
@YOUR_NARRATOR975
@YOUR_NARRATOR975 13 күн бұрын
I actually really needed this. Can't find my dad's whetstone set and I need my chisels sharpened. Luckily I got a big pile of concrete slabs for a porch we never used.
@CleaveMountaineering
@CleaveMountaineering Жыл бұрын
Once on a jobsite and lacking a file, I deburred a piece of aluminum tubing on a concrete slab. Worked fine. This is a worthy demonstration, thanks for sharing.
@arrayofemotions
@arrayofemotions Жыл бұрын
Sharpening is one of those things that seemed very daunting when I first had to sharpen, mainly because many youtubers make so big a deal of it. But then I just decided to get a 40$ whetstone sharpening kit from Amazon with two stones (grits 400/1000 & 3000/8000) and just sorta went for it. Turns out it's not that hard at all.
@MrConminer
@MrConminer Жыл бұрын
Exsctly what I did
@Zyberwoof
@Zyberwoof Жыл бұрын
I started with something similar. A double sided 400/1000 diamond stone, and a strop with green compound. I even glued the leather upside down. Everything still worked great. (As a tip for others, soft "drawer liner" works great. Put your stone on top of it to keep it from sliding around.) I've since moved on to Rex Krueger's "Cheap, thin diamond plates & strop glued to a melamine board". Rex's video compliments this one very well. James: "You don't need anything special to get your tools sharp. See, you can even do it with a rock." Rex: "So stop overthinking things. Just use stuff that is cheap and practical."
@mattlewis3472
@mattlewis3472 Жыл бұрын
Yep, same. And I then I bought cheap diamond plates to keep at my bench for quick touch ups. And now I almost never even use the water stones either, since they require more setup and who has the time?
@czed7515
@czed7515 Жыл бұрын
The same with convex sharpening knives on stones. It was way easier then the way some people made it out to be. Maybe even easier then sharpening v grind knives on stones.
@orellinvvardengra6775
@orellinvvardengra6775 Жыл бұрын
Just did some maintenance on my plane. I first got it and did a quick sharpen and clean up. Today was an in depth clean and another sharpening... I really wish I could get out to work more often. Glad to know though that I'm covered just in case I lose my stones though, just do it on my concrete floor. Always enjoy the videos and keep up the good work!
@cbryantbear6498
@cbryantbear6498 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@dalepatton4861
@dalepatton4861 Жыл бұрын
As always, you're one sharp dude.
@kennethnielsen3864
@kennethnielsen3864 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@markp6062
@markp6062 Жыл бұрын
Very good. Newbie here and just learning the craft of sharpening.
@philaandrew100
@philaandrew100 Жыл бұрын
Have been known to use a Slate roofing tile out of desperation. Works well.
@WoodenBoatBen
@WoodenBoatBen Жыл бұрын
I’m very encouraged!! I’m a budget woodworker, and now I don’t have to buy expensive jigs or stones. Time and patience I have.
@dpmeyer4867
@dpmeyer4867 Жыл бұрын
nice concrete explanation
@TokyoScarab
@TokyoScarab Жыл бұрын
James had way too much fun dulling the tip of that chisel on that concrete block 😂
@mikemike6138
@mikemike6138 Жыл бұрын
When I'm in the middle of something is when I find the shortcuts to sharpening, case in point yesterday scrubbing a large block of Matai (NZ native) with a Record 5 1/2 plane, realised it was not sharp enough. In the middle of a mess of odd tools and wood offcuts, disorganised chaotic shed right now as I'm shifting it around, just hunted around for any old whetstone, and found a can of wd40 as liquid, so there's enough to get a fairly decent edge fairly quickly even though the aton was too small to get a proper motion just carefully do back and forth angled sideways. Amazing difference.
@ianhenderson8305
@ianhenderson8305 Жыл бұрын
What?!?!? I’ve heard rumor on the internet about concrete blocks and stops for sharpening, and still a mind blowing experience to see it.
@theidlehandsworkshop3884
@theidlehandsworkshop3884 Жыл бұрын
So there is a Wright way... sorry, couldn't resist. Have my first set of stones coming in the mail for my birthday tomorrow
@darrylportelli
@darrylportelli Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS ... I had done extensive testing just to improve my knowledge and once i was at a big box store and found a super cheap Aluminum oxide stone for like $5 and bought it to challenge myself if i can get a good edge - low and behold i managed to EASILY get a shaving edge from just that stone and a strop (not even leather , just scrap mdf) ... To make sharpening even faster with cheap oil stones , grinding a primary bevel with a bench grinder to get a hollow grind and then just doing like 4 seconds on the stone gives you a tiny secondary bevel in an instant and easily polished on the strop ... And no need for any fancy grinder , just a normal high speed grinder second hand off marketplace with a diy tool rest is fine
@RobGb100
@RobGb100 Жыл бұрын
About 20years ago I got a thick piece of Welsh slate (discarded on a job) and used that as my “strop” it works well, very fine slurry that polishes well.
@tekurohamada7068
@tekurohamada7068 Жыл бұрын
i am amazed
@jessenunes7602
@jessenunes7602 Жыл бұрын
That's it I'm throwing away my expensive sharpening stones and going to home depot for concrete blocks.😂
@RichardMerrill3Hawk
@RichardMerrill3Hawk Жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with getting an edge. My father, may he rest in peace, taught me to sharpen by sound. A grating sound means it's too much toward the heel. A grinding sound is just right at the face. A scratching sound means it's too much on the edge. Those are not technical terms and are pretty subjective, of course, but it worked once I heard him do it. My problem is with keeping the edge square to the tool! My chisel ends up angled, my plane iron angles the other way, etc. I imagine it's just more practice and adjusting elbow and wrist angles. I never tried concrete, but my father would use a river stone to sharpen his pocket knife when he was fly fishing. Thanks for your clear, simple explanations!
@zidnyknight3611
@zidnyknight3611 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@davewest6788
@davewest6788 Жыл бұрын
Wicked Shaan video guy
@phillipbrooks1289
@phillipbrooks1289 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sharp content
@vinceearl4240
@vinceearl4240 Жыл бұрын
Very eyeopening on the one hand, but frustrating on the other. :) It's tough watching someone spend literally 30 seconds with a brick get a better edge than I can with 30 minutes and diamond plates...although I'm getting much better.
@nevinmurtha1670
@nevinmurtha1670 Жыл бұрын
As a former pro cook, for a quick touch up, the unfinished rim on the underside of a china plate works on knives.
@VivienLEGER
@VivienLEGER Жыл бұрын
Hello james, Thanks for this video, i have been wood working for almost 2 years now, it s the time it took me to be confident in my sharpening skill. Bascially the thing youtuber should teach is : get a burr , strop it, get back to the bench. i like to wander in the how to also .. sometime i do figure of 8 (Paul Sellers), sommetime i go staraigth, when i need to change the bevel angle i do it holding the edge in the same way i sharpen not perpendicularry). all of this because i noticed that that was the way I (capital, bold underlined) was able to hold my edge straigth, it s just the best for me ( capital, bold underlined). a burr, a stropped edge and happy shavings!
@criswilson1140
@criswilson1140 Жыл бұрын
I've used concrete, bricks, and rocks many times over the years to sharpen my ax to arm hair shaving sharp out in the woods. I keep a brick with my restoration tools for when i need grind heavy rust off.
@Vincent-S
@Vincent-S Жыл бұрын
Ha, neat. I’ve used a random sandstone paver from the backyard but never a concrete block. I might try that one day for giggles. Same with a brick since that’s been done too
@cutemalegymnat
@cutemalegymnat Жыл бұрын
Thats cool that you can sharpen with stone!
@theeddorian
@theeddorian Жыл бұрын
I've looked at a sharpening stone, a natural cobblestone, cracked length wise by a Chinese miner/store proprietor. The piece is set into a piece of liveoak log, and the fracture surface has a glassy polished surface. It has been worn into a saddle form by intense use. It was probably used to sharpen kitchen and butchering tools. I glue the strop to a piece of wood with hide glue - heh. Provides a firm surface with less tendency to round the back immediately behind the edge.
@M0rtunodos
@M0rtunodos Жыл бұрын
Sharpening really depends on what your end goals are. I use a piece of shale from my garden to touch up my handaxe when I'm rough chopping wood.
@ricos1497
@ricos1497 Жыл бұрын
I actually use the sole of my heel to sharpen my chisels. Rock hard and flat. Can be a bit flakey, but leaves a perfect edge.
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be Жыл бұрын
I love my diamond sharpeners.
@KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally
@KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally Жыл бұрын
I won't make the class but I hope everyone has a lovely time.
@daveturnbull7221
@daveturnbull7221 Жыл бұрын
I can vaguely remember as a kid that I had the head for an old ball pein hammer but no handle. Only other tools I had access to was a handsaw and a knife. I used the hammer and the knife to split a piece of wood to a rough handle but the blade wasn't sharp enough to whittle the end to fit in the head so I sharpened it on a concrete slab. That was getting close to 50 years ago.
@brbilheimer
@brbilheimer Жыл бұрын
Might not work well for chisels and planes, but the unglazed ring on the bottom of a coffee mug works great on pocket knives.
@warrenmunn3224
@warrenmunn3224 Жыл бұрын
Nice idea of sharpening on Concrete, unfortunately I have no concrete blocks so I'd be down on my knees on the floor, all good until I try to get up, then my knees would start to complain
@pettere8429
@pettere8429 Жыл бұрын
I got a "400"/"1000" grit diamond plate from axminster, and a strop, works great and was not that expensive. Plus it can do carbide and stuff should I need to.
@kencarlile1212
@kencarlile1212 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. It came out sharper than I expected! Couldn't help but notice that you didn't do it on one of your Richters.... 😁
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
Lol I know right.
@doriWyo
@doriWyo Жыл бұрын
My father sold knives, door to door, at one time. He also had a sharpener that rolled on the counter or floor. He'd sit down, and roll it back and forth with whatever knife he was sharpening.
@pitsnipe5559
@pitsnipe5559 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Now I feel good about using 1000 grit wet/dry paper on a piece of melanin (sp) board
@noahfreeman8115
@noahfreeman8115 Жыл бұрын
this is insane
@margaretkrantz1469
@margaretkrantz1469 Жыл бұрын
Whoa! Cool illustration! Painful, though--i'll be traumatized for the rest of the day after watching what you did to that chisel. I loved that you proved it with your sharpness meter. Where could I find them?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
It is an Edge-on-up tester www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Edge-On-Up-Industrial-Edge-Tester-P1562.aspx they are not cheap.
@dpmeyer4867
@dpmeyer4867 Жыл бұрын
do you have a link for the patio block?
@andrewking1122
@andrewking1122 Жыл бұрын
Dragging that chisel edge over that block was like fingernails on a chalkboard.
@I.m-Me
@I.m-Me Жыл бұрын
Concrete is also excellent for wearing down excessive callouses, no water required if the bubble-pores are fine enough
@24.k.g.f.97
@24.k.g.f.97 Жыл бұрын
When I was young sharpening quarters on concrete roughed up my knuckles and gave me sharp coins to throw at wood for fun.
@dandelie2067
@dandelie2067 Жыл бұрын
Wow and all this time I thought bricks were just for building houses.
@giveemtheboot5123
@giveemtheboot5123 Жыл бұрын
I keep getting large chips off my antique timber framing chisel which I was using for chopping/mortise work. I am changing the primary bevel to 30 degrees after reading about brittle steel. Thought maybe slightly rounding the chisel blade corners might also help. Thoughts?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
30 or 35° is where I would go. Old steel can be temperamental. If the chipping is bad at a higher angle then there's not much you can do to it other than trying to re-temper it.
@giveemtheboot5123
@giveemtheboot5123 Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo thank you!!
@joeltrunfio8765
@joeltrunfio8765 Жыл бұрын
How vital is the honing compound? I.e. will I still be able to get my blades sharpER than they are today without the honing compound?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
Without the hunting compound the leather will polish the edge but it won't sharpen it. So it depends on how good you are with your sharpening stone.
@cornhammer
@cornhammer Жыл бұрын
25 at the point n 30 behind. That’s definitely the best degrees to use 🎉
@johnford7847
@johnford7847 Жыл бұрын
More useful stuff. Thanks, James. I have to say, I don't think a single two-hour video is going to do well, in the long-term number of views sense. I hope it works out well for the three of you.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
It won't be a video. It will be a zoom class. So only for the people who are there.
@rodrigog.c.6047
@rodrigog.c.6047 5 ай бұрын
Bottom of any regular ceramic cup.
@rawr2u190
@rawr2u190 5 ай бұрын
When I started off, I'd strop using toothpaste. No idea if it was effective, since my sharpening skills were so low at the time lol.
@prego2011able
@prego2011able Жыл бұрын
I am curious about just using a strop to keep up an edge, how long could you make an edge last before needing to go back to stones/paper/block? Also is mdf or wood a substitute for a strop?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
it depends on the use. for a plane or bench chisel it is 3-5 stropping before I want to take it back and sharpening it again. for a carving chisel in may live on the strop as long as it is cared for.
@justplanebob105
@justplanebob105 Жыл бұрын
Sharpening really does get better with practice. I tend to get lots of sharpening practice because whenever I use my chisels it's almost a given that I will drop one on the concrete floor. I'm getting better though. At least I don't cut my hands on them as often. 😂
@ianpearse4480
@ianpearse4480 Жыл бұрын
Cool, you just proved that having a strop is essential! So it's off to the gym for me for another 20! Then I am going to moan about it for hours! LOL.
@cycleincircles
@cycleincircles Жыл бұрын
Fuzzy side of the leather? I saw on a Shelter Institute video (commercial school and timber frame builders) that they prefer stropping on the fuzzy side of the leather. What are your thoughts on that?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
If I'm using compound I use the rough side.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, James! 😃 You know, I've been thinking about making a mini sharpening wheel... With water and so on, that would be turned by a DC motor... (And I have a few great ones for that here.) What kept me from doing it is a way to make the wheel itself! Now I know how I'm going to make it! 😃 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊 BTW, I would like to make it just for the fun of it!
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
I thought about making one and just casting some concrete. Maybe someday.
@Vikingwerk
@Vikingwerk Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo I spent ages trying to find someone who had done this, but only ever found people theory-crafting about how to do it, so I finally just decided to be the guy who tried! I actually cast a 30 inch wheel and built a treadle powered grinder for it. I mixed Portland cement, and coal slag sandblasting media in a 1:2 cement:slag ratio, and added about a pound of concrete re-enforcing fiberglass, making a roughly 150lb wheel. It is a tough, hard wheel, and produces a much finer scratch than your concrete in this video. I need to true it up a bit more with a concrete cutting blade on a grinder, but I am really pleased with my results so far!
@wouterengels7769
@wouterengels7769 Жыл бұрын
Would love to attend but 8pm your time is 2am here 😭
@davidshropshire
@davidshropshire Жыл бұрын
Should I replace my honing compound if it's dry and flakes off after it's been on the strop for a few days? When I apply fresh compound, the old stuff flakes off.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever had it flake off before. Unless you're using the smooth side of the strop. In that case I put new on almost every time I use it. Normally I go three or four sharpenings before I scrape off the old compound and put on a new coat
@davidshropshire
@davidshropshire Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo I guess I've never scrapped it off intentionally. I've just kept adding to it as it flakes off so some of the compound on the strop might be 3 years old! 😆 Thanks!
@faramund9865
@faramund9865 Жыл бұрын
When people ask for "the right way" I simply point to tradition. We've been doing it in x way for hundreds of years, it probably works. In this case that's a grindstone, a wheel. However I must add that since about a hundred years we've made steel much harder and also since about the same time carborundum has been the material for said sharpening stones rather than sandstone. In fact I bet we got much harder tools after carborundum (a synthetic material) was invented as a sharpening stone, because it sharpens much faster than sandstone. So it allowed tools to become harder. I must also add that handheld (or laid down?) sharpening stones have also existed for a long time. But given that it's a lot more work that way I assume it was more for maintaining the edge rather than forming and repairing an edge. Or perhaps because stones that sharpen very thinly are more rare and thus aren't made into big chunks like sandstone was.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
The question you have to ask when looking at tradition is which tradition. And in which time frame. And each one there were different ways of doing it. It's always just whatever the master told you to do.
@EricHonaker
@EricHonaker Жыл бұрын
Last time I sharpened I used my grindstone to establish 25 degree bevels, then just a couple of minutes on diamond hones to put on the 30 degree. Worked wonderfully, and I didn't need to change stones on my grinder.
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be Жыл бұрын
Carborundum is Sapphire, only diamond is harder. Sapphire miners in Oz send the rubbish ones to the sandpaper makers.
@michaelmennuti4414
@michaelmennuti4414 Жыл бұрын
I don't doubt that concrete works fine, but something about the feel and sound of it is like nails on a chalkboard to me. My current setup is a super cheap 400 grit diamond plate, a reasonably nice 1000/6000 grit japanese water stone, and a strop at the end.
@davidmartin9045
@davidmartin9045 Жыл бұрын
I have used my concrete shop floor to sharpen putty knife
@christophermahon1851
@christophermahon1851 Жыл бұрын
I have mixed emotions. One the one hand, I feel a bit less bad about the cheap HF diamond hones I bought and, on the other hand bit more bad about the beautiful Arkansas stones in their wooden case that I just bought.
@chagildoi
@chagildoi Жыл бұрын
“I like horse butt.” -James
@MrMNRichardWright
@MrMNRichardWright Жыл бұрын
All these comments remind me of an wise saying; “It’s a poor craftsman who blames the tool”
@henrystrickland1256
@henrystrickland1256 Жыл бұрын
I know when I was ten I could get a hell of an edge on a popsicle stick using concrete!
@bertbert2725
@bertbert2725 Жыл бұрын
the only reason i chose to use diamond stones is because i'm lazy and never need to flatten them.
@melgillham462
@melgillham462 Жыл бұрын
Blew one of my bosses minds one time. I made a bet with him that I could sharpen a chisel on the concrete driveway that would perform in less time than it would take him to sharpen one with his system. And I won ofcourse. I stropped it on my wallet it shaved and all it truly takes is varying pressure. He was going to toss the set out because they had been used as paint can openers, nail cutters breaking down pallets etc. The usual abuse youd see with pawn shop chisels. Steak dinner at the sports bar. 😂 bricks work well too.
@nikmabc
@nikmabc Жыл бұрын
Rather than steal something from Jame's backyard, a home center has all sorts of tiles. I got some 3x6 ceramic tiles for 10 cents each. There are 6x12 up to 12x24 options too. If you don't mind funny looks, probably some free stuff on the side of the road.
@sypernova6969
@sypernova6969 Жыл бұрын
very cool. it`s like when people sharpen things on the back of a plate or a cup, on that rough, non glazed surface. question: you like history stuff,. would it be interesting to you to look at how people have been sharpening their tools in history? that might help people understand how the modern tools are simply a luxury and not a necessity. plus, it`s cool, if you like history. 🙂
@johnoerter2883
@johnoerter2883 Жыл бұрын
Timing won’t allow me to attend the class … will the content be available later?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
I hope so, but not sure.
@johnoerter2883
@johnoerter2883 Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Again, it's the time, and I wouldn't mind paying for the info. Lots of good sharpening stuff happening presently on YT!
@claybowser698
@claybowser698 Жыл бұрын
I tried to flatten an oil stone on concrete once. All that happened was that I got shiny concrete.
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 Жыл бұрын
Acquiring the skill to sharpen makes perfect sense. I honing my sharpening skills. 😉 I watched most of the sharpening KZfaq videos from Cosman, Rex, You, Sellers, Katz-Moses, Stumpy Nubs and many more. The only remaining question I have is does angle matter for edge retention, if so how much. An ancient Boy Scout leader decades ago told me that a 30° angle will hold an edge the longest. Myth or magic at 30°?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
The short answer is yes. The higher the angle the longer the edge will last. But the harder it is to push into the wood. So different tools can be put in different angles or some people just pick one angle for every tool in the shop. Here's a video where I go into more detail on it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9SjqZCl0NrQlps.html
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 Жыл бұрын
You have covered so much, thanks for clearing up 30° question.
@autumn5592
@autumn5592 Жыл бұрын
A more acute angle will hold the edge longer, but wont handle lateral forces as well, so making chipping and rolling easier. So 20° will stay sharper longer than 30°, but you can't hammer it into wood and expect it to maintain the edge as well. You should use whatever edge angle you prefer the most. Experiment by reducing angle gradually every sharpening until it no longer holds up as well as you'd like, then go up a degree or so, and you will be at the ideal angle.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
HOW. HOW ON EARTH. What am I doing wrong that I can never get back to factory sharp? I tried with Japanese water stones, diamond stones, a belt with compound, a dremel's felt disk with compound. Nothing.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
When it comes to sharpening it's not as much about what you use but the technique and method with which you use it. It's a skill and the only way you can learn a skill is by doing it over and over and over again and messing it up until you get it right.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo yeah, but I don't get what's wrong with my technique. I tried all angles on my strop
@autumn5592
@autumn5592 Жыл бұрын
​@@bacicinvatteneacaAre you apexing properly (forming a small burr), then deburring fully?
@anthonyseiver7000
@anthonyseiver7000 Жыл бұрын
I am sure the Japanese concrete sharpens better than either the Chinese concrete or heaven forbid US or Canadian concrete
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
Roman concrete is the way.
@johnmm
@johnmm Жыл бұрын
We sharpen on Moose here in Canada. But getting them to stand still long enough is a challenge...
@anthonyseiver7000
@anthonyseiver7000 Жыл бұрын
@John M we use kangaroos in Australia to sharpen ours, which means we have to run real fast with sharp chisels
@isaach1447
@isaach1447 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to be selling sharpening concrete blocks on your site?😂
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
LOL The shipping would be killer!
@scadoorman3360
@scadoorman3360 Жыл бұрын
Based on my experience as a sergeant at a max sec prison yes a good edge can be obtained with concrete. I have scars to prove it too.
@ubbeus
@ubbeus Жыл бұрын
Say what you will, you’re not dull…
@thed_ani
@thed_ani Жыл бұрын
Concrete seems to be roughly about 800-1000 grit based off how deep the scratch marks are
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Жыл бұрын
I would put this one around 400-600 it is a very uneven surface.
@autumn5592
@autumn5592 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the mix of the concrete. You cannot really put a number on 'grit' because there are so many particles inside of various sizes. Better to just blanket label it. Most concrete is coarse.
@davidlynn7161
@davidlynn7161 Жыл бұрын
Comment down below.
@Clark42EoC
@Clark42EoC Жыл бұрын
Mr. Chickadee has an amazing video on sharpening. Of course I'll watch you Anne and Rex but I highly recommend anyone interested take a look at that video cause it explains so much that other sharpening videos haven't covered. He explains very well that you don't need multiple sharpening stones...that craftsmen in the old days simply had one stone and would achieve ever greater sharpness by using ever decreasing pressure on the stone.
@tomarmstrong1000
@tomarmstrong1000 Жыл бұрын
I think sharpening is a bit of an internet problem. We access to so many different people presenting different methods with different mediums etc. We only have to think a little to realise 30 years ago you would have such more limited exposure to different methods, generally one person showing you how they did it so you learn to do it like that. In the bigger picture people had to do this to earn a living, day in, day out. They learned to use what they had and got it done. What's not often discussed or overlooked, is the beginner with a cheap chisel(s) that will just never hold a good edge. They could be using perfect technique but they feel it is technique or sharpening stone holding them back when really it could actually be the steel the tool is made from.
@MichaelBrazier-tb1gr
@MichaelBrazier-tb1gr Ай бұрын
Dude get to the point
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