So visually attractive. Love the old LRC locos, but God are they ugly

First, I really like the addition of LCD displays, it feels much needed for modern intercity trains and I'm glad to see North America catching up. Second, my personal favorite Intercity route is the Amtrak Cascades, and I'm also glad to see that the Cascades is set to recieve Venture cars as well, though I am a bit dissapointed in the early departure of the Talgoes.

Gotta be the washroom, that is so so so important. I really enjoyed the Korean intercity rail!

@@bipbipletucha Yeah they were not beauties haha

@@docsrailroad Oh so they confirmed they are getting ventures? That's great!

Indeed and we will soon have them! We do need better tracks too though…

@@RMTransit We need dedicated passenger rail tracks. We need to dump leasing freight tracks whose companies keep screwing up Via Rail's schedules.

@@Milnoc AgreeeeeeeeD!

@@RMTransit Definitely. I once took the EXO train to Montreal from the south shore and kept wondering if the train would fall on its side during the short trip!

Hey look it's the dude from yt

100%, firstly from Brightline and now on VIA!

That would be my dream come true. Especially in the US if it can go beyond the northeast.

Also the day that Amtrak ( except Acela ) will be faster than driving. You see cars passing Amtraks along some interstates. What a joke.

I hope so, rail is my favourite method of travel. We need high speed rail between cities

@@bmw803 Northeast corridor is decent, needs new rolling stock. Amtrak's long distance really is an albatross around its neck as it does not own the track

I am split between whether I like the Brightline or VIA one more, thoughts?

@@RMTransit I much prefer the Via, the Brightline is a bit duck-bill-y. Not to mention Via's livery is much better.

You mean the ones on state-supported services (which show the destination up front), or the ones that will be on long-distance routes (ALC-42)? @@RMTransit Brightline has the edge for me, but VIA is nice also

@@RMTransit my favorite Charger variant so far is the ALC42. That face will also be on the SC32DM being ordered by New York and Connecticut for commuter and potentially intercity service.

@@RMTransit VIA beats Brightline both on nose shape and on livery. Love it. Btw, they didn't have a cafe car?

They did indeed! A very nice - standard North American passenger rail car is kind of amazing

The livery reminds me of the way that train cars used to be decorated.

The equipment ordered by California and Illinois has never entered service. It has numerous issues from lead in the potable water systems to electrical and structural problems that will probably result in the cars being scrapped. Brightline seems ok with the same but then Brightline is a Florida real estate development scheme with a train attached for ESG reasons. IOW no one gives a n F'. They are the F-35 of the railway world.

@@emilkarpo well then that’s good, as the F-35, after some fairly standard early hiccups, has become a very good plane. That bad publicity it got was mostly because of the cost overruns and the narrative that it was some kind of a failure (which was never really true). Not to mention, venture cars have started to enter service now in Chicago, with lots more coming online in the next few years across the Midwest. I’m not sure what the status of the California ones are, but hopefully they’ll be in service soon as well!

The pleasure was all mine!

How much of VIA's existing fleet will remain after the Ventures come in?

@@samuelitooooo Only the stainless steel cars used on long distance and remote services will remain, supplemented by some of the better stainless steel cars running in the corridor. However, those cars are 70+ years old and even stainless steel cars are not immortal, so next up is a new long distance fleet.

You Canadians literally use Renaissance coaches. You already have European trains

Trains yes, Infra no haha

Well your actually above dutch national rail operator ns in picking rolling stock.those fyro pendelino trains where a nightmere because the weren't winter proofly designed. We wanted to buy Japanese train's but the eu wouldn't let us because of buy in eu policy and then ns wanted to spend more on good quality high speed eu made high speed train s but the Dutch government wouldn't allow them so the only choice left was to buy dose pendelino's that we new where never tested in winter conditions.

@@RMTransit It would be nice if we could have Japanese or French levels of train infrastructure but it will be awhile before Canada's train infrastructure is as good as the best countries for passenger rail. A man can dream!

@@kneonspace410 There's other options though such as CAF and alstom. Japanese trains are not always the best option, still waiting for the scandal to unfold where our government paid Hitachi way more than it needed to for the IET program.

They are a masssssssive step forward accessibility wise

@@RMTransit But how do you get in them if the platform is near track level like at 2:20? Is there a lift or something for wheelchairs?

@@Bavvo69 yes there is, it's mentioned and shown at 6:50

Oh absolutely, a new light rail line to Union in Toronto, then a new VIA train, then the new REM in Montreal!

I can see that for the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal corridor. But for anything above that distance, I REALLY don't think you'll see much more than the usual tourist experience of a 3 day trip to Vancouver. Air Canada just ordered a LOT of C-Series/A220 planes that change everything. Cheap and efficient 140 passenger planes, able to one-stop it to Vancouver from Montreal. It's going to cost the same as taking a train to go to anywhere out west or east. The ONLY plus I see for this new train and front-rear LOCO arrangement is the fact that Halifax lost its Y and can't turn trains around anymore, so a back and forth thing is clearly a winning idea... AND Greyhound stopped all of their Canadian operations. This means that only trains and planes get you out west if you don't have a car. I used the train often in the last 3 years to go from Quebec City to Montreal and Ottawa. It's NEVER full or even close to when I get on, at regular mid-day times, and it's not looking very profitable at the really low prices I get my tickets at.

@@TheJimprez Lower capacity & more frequency is what is needed to make the switch in North America. It's a requirement to make people ditch their cars in favor of train and public transit.

Yes! That is such a nice touch!

@@afcgeo882 Yes. But the reality is that the knowledge on how to build good trains is gone in the US (same like no one in Europe knows how to build a nuclear reactor power plant these days). Even if the trains get manufactured in NA, the IP has to come from somewhere, and pretty much all R&D regarding passenger rail trainsets is done either in Asia or mainland Europe. And since there is not much demand in NA, it's hard to see that some new player enters the market and can survive against Stadler, Siemens, Alstom, ... And all three companies have their proven designs, which they will adapt for the US market, if there is demand.

@@afcgeo882 Would be interesting what you would like to see as new or experimental features in passenger cars? I think doing experiments with in service cars has always the risk of failure. And that costs money VIA or AMTRAK for that matter is not ready to spend. In Europe the tendency is to buy run of the mill equipment which is supposed to work without bugs from the start. Which, of course, it never does. But then you can blame the manufacturer and not pay yourself for experiments. I have done miles and miles of train rides until I did retire recently. And I have seen the comfort degrading. Seats could no longer be reclined so much, leg room getting smaller, no foot rests, small folding tables and no more compartments. No to go to the seats being too firm for my liking. So from the first ICE trains in 1991 I consider it a downward journey. The only improvement I saw since then is the availability of free WLAN. And that started only a few years ago.

@@afcgeo882 There is no disadvantage for anyone of having a "20 year old" venture cars. Why? Siemens is always improving design and needs from the customer, especially the requirements are stricter than 20 year before. So VIA Rail will get an updated venture car based on an proven platform. If VIA Rail is ordering silent and comfortable bogie, they will get the state-of-the-art one. Wifi? screen infotainment? strong a/c? No problem. A big plus is: The reliability is already proven. Everything what has to do with maintenance won't be a problem (spare parts, workshop manual...)

Can't be worst than the old ones. Although I don't think it's VIA's fault. I've been to Europe and TRAINS are a normal way to travel there. Here, they are NOT! So it's a LOT less profitable and the money for upgrades comes much slower. Everyone has a car, or two here (a beater for winter, and a nice one for the rest of the year), so short inter-city rides don't get the same traction, and it's NOT like London in the UK or Some places like Washington DC, where people come in to work every day from suburbs 60-80 Km away. Maybe a BIT of that in Toronto and Montreal, but that is about it. didn't until I was about 12. Then it was mostly LOTS of buses, cars, or planes. I mean Canada is the 2nd largest country in the world and we all live in a straight line with ONE railroad and ONE Trans-Canada highway... So almost NOBODY rides a train for 2 days to get to the middle part unless they HATE planes or they want the experience at least once. We usually get on a plane and do it in 4 hours or so, Or 7 if it's Vancouver. MAYBE if no other bus services take up the slack, since Greyhound was the ONLY carrier going West from Toronto to Vancouver and its GONE, the trains will get a bit of a push and more long-distance customers.

@@afcgeo882 It´s oukej to use twenty years old design. Nothing wrong with that.

Very proud of your companies work!

The windows will be much bigger!

Yep they don't understand it would be the best investment they could make.

@@cfcreative1 Density, the only other real corridor that could make money is Calgary to Edmonton, and even that is a stretch to be honest. Vancouver suffers from being so far from anywhere, the Maritimes, umm, never really had the passenger infrastructure.

And faster too. Took VIA from Toronto to Montreal once and the fastest it was going was 78 mph for a few miles. Average speed was 55 to 65. Useless!!!!!

I hope to see it one day. Imagine being in Toronto and being able to pop over to Montreal or Ottawa for the day!

That would be nice for us freight crews too, cut down on congestion of the corridor lines since passenger trains obviously have priority

If both Quebec and Ontario took building rail corridors like they do with highways, we would be of the likes of Europe, we really need better representatives in government

and faster, probably even justify a wire here.

Me too!

Thank you very much!

Rural Canadian. Doubt I'll ever lay eyes on one

@Zaydan Naufal I have a feeling those older trains will be scrapped. Aside from the p42s, these coaches are well beyond their lifespan. VIA did the best they could to continually refurbish these cars, but it's time for them to go.

Let us hope one LRC Coach and LRC locomotive made it to the roundhouse museum

@@alexanderip1003 Jason Shron will probably rescue one

@@japanesetrainandtravel6168 I wanted to meet him one day

Brightline was certainly a great first customer!

Lovely to meet you Arthur

yea me too🇨🇦

For sure, and now we have the SC-42!

Thank you!

what country you from?

Neither does Canada in reality. If you don’t live on Lake Ontario or the St Lawrence river you’re out of luck.

@@davekeehn8388 Which considering a majority of our population live in that area, is not surprising. The only other Corridor I think could work is Calgary to Edmonton, that's it.

Thanks for watching! They are awesome indeed!

Yes we really do, but an electric loco could pop onto this train and it would be perfect!

These are the same coaches (essentially) as the OBB Railjet in case you're wondering

Amtrak is purchasing the electrified variant of this locomotive. Hopefully that means these could be retrofitted in the future. Once Go corridors on GTA are electrified the Via train could theoretically raise the pantograph for that portion of their travel.

I believe the contract bid in 2018 called for locomotives to be designed to have a transformer and pantograph added later so that they could become dual-mode locomotives.

and new tracks so these trains can use all its 200km/h + speed.

Open gangways are standart on New Pendolinos, ICE 3s and most other current-gen European HSR sets though.

@@afcgeo882 one of the most advanced places, and still no disability?... Don't they have a large elderly population?...

@@afcgeo882 sad...

@@PickleRicksFATASSCOUSIN advanced economically, horribly backwards socially with many remnants of their fascist past still celebrated.

@@MJ_M ikr?

Today! It was a lot of work haha

You should visit!

Thanks

I hope so too!

We are slowly getting there!

I think they have their own charm tho.

Yeah the loss of ACS 64s is crazy

@@RMTransit to be fair if they replace them with electric chargers I don't see the issue, as long as other railways can use the Sprinters.

@@RMTransit I can see MBTA taking a look at them for Providence runs.

@@flare2000x Currently some routes require them to swap the locomotive to a diesel at the end of the electrified service. This will allow them to just keep going.

I really like it, I think this one will probably look better with wear

Just need an electric locomotive and it all works!

What's this big deal with electric?? As a passenger, what's the difference?

@@bmw803 electric is eco friendly and quiet

@@RMTransit I think the Hydrogen Fuel Cell would be the way to go in our instance, CN will never upgrade the tracks so, we have to use what's given to us.

The sad thing is that in the long run its actually the cheaper option too. Just look at the insanity of the 401 and the amount of repairs, lanes and lost revenue because of people stuck in traffic. All of the things mentioned seep money. A metro-like intercity train system between the big cities would already improve so much and would probably make a lot of people a lot less angry. So yes I wholeheartedly agree, its a good train and we can only hope that it paves (or rails hehe) the way for more improvements :D

Say whatever you want about the Light Rail Vehicles, but you don't like the Velaro ? 😢,

@@tzarcoal1018 Speaking strictly about aesthetic. I don't like how they look 🤐 I say this because I don't like the Siemens look generally, but Charger + Venture stands out as an exception, which is a great thing

@@xnaylo335 I don’t think that’s the reason. In theory all trains operating on a line should have a set loading gauge that they can’t exceed, and if some platforms are raised and some aren’t, it’ll be the raised ones that define the loading gauge. It’s probably just that they were built before the current rolling stock was introduced and they never bothered to address the issue.

It's on my list!

Yeah, they are quite nice! That said level boarding will only be available at a small number of stations :/

Honestly where they are running it will be very similar to the Midwest, its not too much further north

Ikr. Seeing an actual (decent) passenger/freight service on the E&N rail would be a dream come true for some of us. It would be so nice to be able to get to Victoria without having to drive for hours in bad traffic

Agreed, Alberta needs to get back its Via service. It's -- sort of -- understandable how passenger rail failed leading up to the 80s, with cars and roads becoming the de facto standard in Canada and attitudes toward mass transit of any kind very much stalled, including in Ontario and Quebec where investment was poorly executed, investment limited, and basically not taken seriously for decades. Really the only thing keeping Via going in eastern Canada at all, despite the lack of seriousness, was just enough population density to keep demand "just" high enough to keep the lights on. Between the GTA and SW Ontario, to Ottawa, then Montreal/Quebec City you've got over 15 million people across the corridor. Alberta didn't have that density so the scale just didn't play well with a climate that didn't take passenger rail service seriously. Now, in the 2020's, I agree 100% Via needs to take all of Western Canada passenger rail seriously again. How that works economically I have no idea, but at least major cities in AB (and possibly SK too) could reopen a network I'm sure (acknowledging my complete lack of research on this).

The lines are owned by companies that prioritize freight and that includes outside the main corridor where diesel locomotives would be required anyway.

Canadian govt doesn't understand economics.

@@cfcreative1 They'll go from freight owned tracks to tracks owned by Via Rail. That's already a huge improvement and will greatly reduce commute time & inconsistency. They will also increase the number of departure which is also a huge step forward.

I plan on one!