not just spadina, any major station or station build during/after line 1 expansion with the exepections of Dupont, Glencarin, or Yorkdale

@@euanwarkentin7204 Yes, Spadina was just one of many examples I could have used

in germany you can pay for any sort of ticket and you can do anything with it.... bus, u-bahn, s-bahn whatever

@@marcrchz what’s a bahn

@@DarrylErickson train

Jayden Meertins I’m probably biased coming from Europe but I will say that Montreal’s metro system is not that great. Beside not being extensive (but so much potential which is hopeful and I’m eager to see how it will evolve), the system is getting old. Although the older trains are getting rarer on the green line, I still ride them a lot. Their design is not efficient at all, they’re loud and you cannot hear whatever they say when there is an issue. (And there is a lot of interruptions, periodically) The new ones are much fancier but still, whenever it’s crowded, the seat’s design isn’t the best and you cannot see where you are on a map. If you’re on a the wrong side, or wrong part of the train, you cannot figure it out. (While in many metro systems, the line is printed above the doors on both sides so every one can see it. The escalators in some stations are never working. And to walk in and out (through the turnstiles) of the system, flows of people get intertwined and trust me, it’s a mess during rush hour when a train just released dozens of people and you’re trying to go through the turnstiles. When it is shut down, if you’re not in downtown, you have to take a bus and figure it all out. There’re no other lines within walkable distances from one another or no tramways or trolleys. I’m sure I could say more about it but there’re also good points (it’s clean, it’s rather fast to travel from point to point, the frequency is great, etc) So what they could work on is the audio, the train designs and more lines.

@@TP23000 Their are considerable flaws in the system but compared to the other contenders that's why I picked it as 1st, I am from Toronto and our system is longer but it's just a mess with random shutdown and the streetcars being terribly slow (excluding 509, 512 ,510. All the plans that have been cancelled over the past 15 years we could have a had the best transit in Canadam

Jayden Meertins fair enough. Plus I can’t speak for Toronto as I’ve never experienced it.

I think the list is about transit in general, not just metro systems. If we are just talking about metro the TTC actually has very bad coverage in GTA as it misses many major population centers and almost for sure will put it behind at least Vancouver.

@@jaydenmeertins3415 Do you have a nice trains on there someplace… But as an overall system I have to admit Toronto has it beat. This is coming from a lifelong Vancouver right who desperately wants to see Vancouver rank higher. In the end the three major systems all have something really great going for them… Vancouver has automation, fastest average speed, and 90 second headways. Montreal has a beautiful underground quiet rubber tired system and a beautiful looking map. Toronto has three separate integrated systems which, although they cover a smaller area than Vancouver‘s, are well integrated. Know if you included places like Mississauga… Or the airport… And meet those requirements for a good system… Toronto would not rank very well. But those are things which will get better over time. I wish we had anything resembling go transit in Vancouver.

@@RMTransit Fair enough

@@RMTransit I have filmed The Gardiner & DVP at night (Both directions) You can see the GO Train at around 4:33 in the video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9qEZtRonrW3omQ.html

I still prefer the Streetcars in Toronto

Just like the distinctive sound of Vancouve’s magnetically powered skytrain

I'm super optimistic about our systems future here. Next time you find yourself at YOW be sure to check out the work going on around the airport. The spur line is really coming along

Interesting to hear!

Vancouver's is the best in my opinion . Loving in Edmonton, the LRT is a disaster here and a lot of the lines that are surface, it's frustrating since a lot of them now run where there are city lights. In Vancouver, its way better since it runs underground or above the city so you don't get interference with city traffic

I think even after Ottawa improvements, Edmonton’s station count will more than double in the next 10 years and will become way more extensive

The CTrain (Calgary's LRT) you have to pay a fare except when in the down town 7th ave free fair zone (between City Hall and 8th St station)

@@seamusmuldrew5623 Edmonton's station count will double _and a half_ within *5 years.* At which point, it will be Edmonton>Calgary>Ottawa. Ottawa's only hope in this league is new vehicles.

Ottowa should not be on this list it is not good for cold weather in Canada it is horrible and none of the problems have ever been fixed

@@MultiCappie I think the Valley Line will bring Edmonton's system on par with Calgary's - Edmonton will go from 18 to 45 stations which is what Calgary has today. But in 2027 the first leg of the Green Line will open which will bring Calgary to 60 total, and that's with the line only half completed. So I think it stays Calgary > Edmonton = Ottawa in the long term.

And South Shore REM ! From Panama REM station in Brossard to Longueuil metro station

The thing is, long harsh winters doesn't mean summers aren't hot and muggy.

It doesn’t have air conditioning but it has great ventilation. Regardless of the weather, it always have a comfortable temperature. Been taking the metro for years and the metro is always a safe place for people to go to during extreme weathers

@@RMTransit the new Azur train fixed part of the issue because the ventilation better in the train. I do not think it’s impossible it will be the next feature. Montreal have not create many subways station in 20 years but most subways station have been renovated. My own station of Sauvé probably one of the only one not renovated and stand as one of the worst station in Montreal if not the worst being surrounded by cemeteries (very odd location). Now many stations has elevators, TV Screens, most escalators has been updated the subway finally seems “ finished” with the new trains. For this reason I will not be surprise if EC would become the new thing.

Vancouver is missing some critical links in its system. Connecting the three lines with the M-line west

TBH Winnipeg straight up needs an LRT, and I think their best solution is something elevated. Winnipeg has the Red and Assiniboine Rivers that flood so something underground would be a hard sell and the city has had such a messy expansion that IMHO a Smaller version of the Skytrain using LRVs would probably be preferable!

But with Steel wheels

A rubber-tire metro line would be awesome, although that is unrealistic to happen because it would mean the inability to transfer rolling stock between the lines.

@@DanTheCaptain I Still prefer Steel Wheels (*tire changing is arduous) *I Did that myself when I took part in Automechanics in Grade 9 (Instructor Henry Axiak of Former Timothy Eaton B.T.I. would offer Free Lunch to who would beat his record in tire changing while keeping the tire and wheel completely intact)

@@alexanderip1003 I can imagine how much of a pain it must be to change a tire one of many trucks and bogies on one consist.

@chri1931 chri1931 Screeching Wheels are the best tho D:

Which rolling Stock are they gonna use for the Edmonton-Red Deer-Calgary corridor Siemens? and will they reuse the Old CN Tower Edmonton (Edmonton's main passenger railway station used to Operate there)

Alexander Ip I wouldn’t be surprised if it operates less on the scale of Montreal or Toronto’s commuter rail and more like the future Trillium Line in Ottawa on some serious steroids, whereby you could have Stadler FLIRTs that can carry 600+ people running every 15 minutes but going much faster than they are in Ottawa; approaching max speeds around 100-120 km/h. That’s my suggestion given the lower Density and population of the corridor compared to Toronto or Montreal!

@@alexanderip1003 The rumors I've read leaked out of the "Prairie Link" project is a 350 km/h operating speed, 400 km/h design speed which I suspect leads me to the Bombardier-CHR Zefiro380 trainset and they want to stop at Government Centre station opposite the legislature at 97 Ave/109 St...

Of the decade? More like the next 20 or 40 yearw

Reece Martin thanks a lot 👌🏼😊

Man, I've lived in 6 different cities and Winnipeg was the only time I felt literally handicapped without a car, living in Osborne Village, the best connected spot in the city

urik Exactly! It seems as if it was designed to be a car city and our people and gov are choosing to stay as one, very disappointing. 😔

@@urik it's sad living here

It does not extend from Chinook Station to the food court, it connects it with the east side of Macleod Trail.

Haha!

@@RMTransit a little dare in hopes to provoke a positive outcome! 👍🏼

Derp

@@RMTransit 2 now (the Sheppard west line was replaced by extension of *Line 4)

There's 2 lrt projects and a subway being built in Toronto with 2 extensions. Montreal will be left in Torontos dust.

@@Galaxyshooter116 I'm from Toronto, I'm well aware of the plans. Finch West LRT is a glorified streetcar and Yonge North extension may only be a 4 stop extension with Cummer, Clark and Royal Orchard omitted from the plans and no Centre-John stop even thought of. Ontario Line is also lacking in coverage. Doesn't even stop in the Distillery District or Liberty Village, 2 very high density areas despite going right through them. The best thing Toronto is doing is the underground sections of the Crosstown which may extend to the Airport and Malvern by 2040ish... Lol! Montreal is on track to complete most of the lines I mentioned by the end of THIS decade!

it has been approved and construction has begun.

The master plan is all BRT

Actually Toronto's ridership is higher, Montreal's numbers are kind of misleading. They are high but not as high.

If you want to consider per capita… You should overlay Montréal’s system on either Toronto or Vancouver. Most people are surprised about how far Vancouver system stretches for example… it’s sky train is more like an RER/subway combined. And with Toronto is more than just the subways… It’s the integration with go transit the new lines planned in the street cars

population of city of Toronto 2.3 million Montreal 1.9 million GTA 6.2 million Montreal greater area 4.2 million, Montreal population is not half of Toronto's.

Yeah the Gp Train is better than Exo for sure but Montreal has a denser population with not as many bedroom communities. It wouldn't make sense for Montreal to have as extensive of a commuter train system. Where I think Montreal can definitely learn from Toronto is with trams. NDG, Ville Saint Laurent, Lachine, Lasalle, the Old Port, and Northern Montreal could all benefit from trams integrating those neighborhoods into the metro, EXO, and REM systems.

@@RMTransit that's the one feature I really wish the Rockets had. They naturally attract riders toward the centers of cars which is essential to efficient boarding and unboarding.

@@RMTransit definitely easier to find seating on Rockets. Aisles are just significantly wider also.

Wait till the Ontario line is built they will have the Toronto Rocket Version 2.0

See this is a pretty imperfect measure, I'm also thinking your stats have some errors. Toronto has more ridership than Montreal, I believe it's an issue with how the counts are done.

@@RMTransit You are right that Toronto has more ridership, but I was comparing per capita; because T.O. also has an extensive road system too (except the Don Valley Parking Lot) which is why it's per capita ratings are less than Montreal's (who's road system isn't that great). All I was really trying to point out was that while the c-train doesn't go to every major destination, it does get significant ridership for where it does go.

Yeah, still it's a major difference and the fact that it's a P3 wouldn't be the only factor.

Roughly half of Montreal's new REM will use existing rail rights-of-way. The rest will be almost totally above ground (much cheaper than tunnelling).

Keep in mind that Edmonton’s two lines don’t cross because the downtown portion of the older line is underground and the new line is being built almost entirely above ground, so tracks are not intersecting.

Halifax is such a mess geographically and so spread out that LRT isn't feasible, the ground is very expensive to tunnel through and the CN Rail cut along the peninsula is already heavily used by freight (the South End container terminal isn't going anywhere) with CN having recently been a pain in the ass for Via. The top priority for mobility in Halifax is connections to Dartmouth, but you're looking at a multi-billion dollar project just to span the Harbour, and unlike with the REM , there's no new bridge already being built that you can put rails on. There WAS a commuter rail proposal to Bedford, but it's got quite a price tag and the demographic in Bedford/Lower Sackville is car-owning, with the planned upgrade of the 102 to six lanes likely to only encourage car use. HRM does have BRT planned, going all the way to Cole Harbour, Dartmouth Crossing and the new neighbourhoods along Larry Uteck.

@@RMTransit but only there are only 3 lines while GO Transit has 8 Lines Moose 🔴Inbound 🟠Outbound Arnprior Montebello Line 🟢Inbound 🟡Outbound Bristol Alexandria Line 🔵Inbound 🟣Outbound Smith Falls Wakefield Line GO Transit 🔴Rail ⚪Bus Lakeshore West 🟠Rail ⚪Bus Lakeshore East 🟡Rail ⚪Bus Milton 🟢Rail ⚪Bus Kitchener (Formerly Georgetown) 🔵Rail ⚪Bus Richmond Hill 🔵Rail ⚪Bus (No Cyan Circle Available in the Emojis) Barrie 🟣Rail ⚪Bus Stouffville Union Pearson Express (Exponential Fares Apply) The more lines the merrier

I'd switch up REM with GRT

That's the only reason why I don't hate the Viva system. Upgrading it in the future with green alternatives, either Trolley Busses or a Tramway wouldn't be too difficult. The only issues might be the parts of the system that brake off the BRT such as downtown Richmond Hill, or the various terminals.

@@Absolute_Zero7 I savour the second option "upgrading it into a Tramway" but using *Double decker trams (which includes a Single decker trailer) for most of the lines Excluding green which will use entirely single decker trams as portions of the green line are underground and merging Viva Purple and Viva Orange lines to become Viva Red, as a final blow have Viva renamed North Yonge Railways *gwulo.com/taxonomy/term/2534/photos-gallery

I was referring to the Azurs! THEY weren't made in the 60s!

Interesting! Maybe they should install some sewer grates in the ground! This is why they should have installed air conditioning in the FIRST place until they have installed these sewer vents to accommodate the ac on the new trains!

Montreal's Metro is 100% underground. Full a/c would create too much heat in the tunnels and stations, and air vents can't handle the volume of air. The Azur cars move a lot of air quickly, so they "feel" air conditioned, but it's actually the continuous blast of air you feel.

@@markfinn0 toronto able to dig underground that sometimes the station can be cool or hot plus even with long summer in Ontario our subway still have A/C.

I disagree. Between trams, buses and subways I believe Toronto beats Montreal by a bit.

Reece Martin TTC receives fewer funds. Old is not a problem, Boston and Philly metro are as old, but much more reliable

Definitely varied by part of the country but I have to agree. Thankfully I was in one of the places who followed the advice

I couldn’t agree less, UBC is really not a very good early priority transit connection for a lot of reasons

@@RMTransit Well it doesn't make any sense that UBC, one of the most common destinations on the Vancouver transit system is so disconnected from the system. The 99-B line is the most crowded bus line in North America in a city of 2.5 mil (small compared to many North American cities) and is long overdue for a faster transit line. A metro line would make the 45 min bus which is many times full during peak hours only 17 mins with a transit line. 2/3 students at UBC are commuters and students make up a large commuter population on the system with student compass cards issued to everyone. The current system is highly inefficient and as a commuter living in Surrey it takes me 2 hours one way to get to the university one way while it is only 50 mins if you drive. A major city not having a fast and convenient east west connecter is rare and in your ranking many cities have that. The population of UBC is 60,000 students and most of them have this outdated and overcrowded system to deal with everyday. I am stating the sentiments that many students feel and I think ridership would increase alot if the commute was made shorter. The city is implementing these measures but they are long overdue... Here are some videos so you can see for yourself - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o8mHidWX293DfIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8mTpclnktyweok.html

I thought Vancouver's was good. Compared to Edmonton for instance. Vancouver's is integrated to other cities in Metro Vancouver

@lexal888 well I wouldn't place it dead last but definitely lower

When two tie you aren't going to have a certain tier

I don't agree, I think Montreal and Toronto are quite similar

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Montreal Metro > Toronto Subway All of Toronto's transit (subway + 24 hour tramway + GO) > Montreal transit (metro + EXO) That's not to say mtl isn't on its way to surpassing Toronto, but it hasn't achieved that yet.