Canadian Highlander Points Update || Fall 2023

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8 ай бұрын

Canadian Highlander Council Members Ben Wheeler and Sacha sit down to talk about the upcoming point changes coming to Canadian Highlander.
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@qv_162
@qv_162 8 ай бұрын
The moment Serge moves, Wheeler jumps on to change points
@keab42
@keab42 8 ай бұрын
Serge'll be back to make Wheeler regret it.
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 8 ай бұрын
that be a sacha
@AzuriteCoast
@AzuriteCoast 8 ай бұрын
Didn't realize Serge had moved! Hopefully that goes well
@bobthegamingtaco6073
@bobthegamingtaco6073 8 ай бұрын
Can't believe Tibalt, The Fiend-Blooded hasn't been pointed yet. 2 mana for a planeswalker? I mean come on!
@colinjones5379
@colinjones5379 8 ай бұрын
Sacha is a great speaker! Articulate, knowledgeable, and just with a nice sounding voice :)
@PharaohofAtlantis
@PharaohofAtlantis 8 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised that Spider Spawning went to 2 points and that exactly Taiga is now 1 point when the rest of the OG duals are still 0.
@justapersonontheinternet
@justapersonontheinternet 8 ай бұрын
Taiga at 1 point might look wierd, until you consider its overepresentation in the format and how easy the land lets you splash powerfull spells like minsc and boo or wrenn and six in non green red decks or non red green decks it starts to make sence
@paytheone4223
@paytheone4223 8 ай бұрын
Frankly, I'm suprised that more of the duals didn't get an increase, especially since they knocked all the moxen to 0 points. Seemed like a fair trade to me, but we'll see how it plays out
@keab42
@keab42 8 ай бұрын
Toxic Deluge to 10 feels entirely justified based on recent problematic uses.
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 8 ай бұрын
I'm just waiting to see if Necropotence is still unplayable, even at -1 points.
@DragonSeru
@DragonSeru 8 ай бұрын
Glad they pushed Colossal Dreadmaw from a 1 to a 3... it was long overdue and honestly quite baffling they had to bribe one council member for it :3
@robertbrummett2591
@robertbrummett2591 8 ай бұрын
I do not play Highlander because there is no support in middle of nowhere Kansas. But it is awesome to see the support for it in Canada and how much LRR puts out videos to bring us who are not in the loop in on it. Thanks so much
@tinstreet_egg
@tinstreet_egg 8 ай бұрын
There's no support for it where I live either but we play anyway 😁
@345tom
@345tom 8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that The One Ring isn't in the conversation, it seems like it could make a case for a one pointer. Is it too new and you are feeling out the effects of it? From an external view, it looks like the type of card that could easily become ubiquitous in the format.
@bwheelermtg
@bwheelermtg 8 ай бұрын
Card is brand new, not as ubiquitous as it seems (compared to other formats especially) and more of a reliability w/o multiples
@pyredynasty
@pyredynasty 8 ай бұрын
Being in singleton cuts its power quite a bit. But I'm far from an expert on the format.
@CasualKing21
@CasualKing21 8 ай бұрын
Price of Progress is immediately going into my 0 Point Burn list!! ❤🔥
@Antimuffin
@Antimuffin 8 ай бұрын
Glad the "new" guy is already a pro at sassing Wheeler. 😂
@FGCmtg
@FGCmtg 8 ай бұрын
Wow, casually bad mouthing me for knowing what two card monte is. That's the commentary I keep coming back for.
@ilyshion2047
@ilyshion2047 8 ай бұрын
1 minute in and I already love Sacha
@buhlian
@buhlian 8 ай бұрын
Still have never played a game of canlander but I love the passion and effort you guys put into this format.
@badgeronriodz6792
@badgeronriodz6792 8 ай бұрын
Sasha on North 100 👀
@sandmanlives3
@sandmanlives3 8 ай бұрын
Excellent, as always. Thank you.
@VAB0L0
@VAB0L0 8 ай бұрын
Huzzah, my Temur Cradle Academy deck can finally fit Crop Rot! I can't wait to lose to mono-Red aggro with *both* of my legendary lands out now
@GFreeGamer
@GFreeGamer 8 ай бұрын
I liked the longer explaination you had on the changes on your channel, Wheeler!
@Durtaz
@Durtaz 8 ай бұрын
Happy to have Sacha on the council! I love it.
@pokerins
@pokerins 8 ай бұрын
Nice to see how vocal and transparent they are about these changes and the reasoning
@Drecon84
@Drecon84 7 ай бұрын
Part of me would love to see a format where all cards in the game are pointed (although many cards would of course still deserve 0 points regardless) and where you could have tournaments with different max point values to regulate the power of the format. It would be an insane undertaking and would lead to a completely different format from CanLander of course, but I do think that if it were to work out it would be actually awesome.
@JimmyJames-om2uw
@JimmyJames-om2uw 8 ай бұрын
Great job. Nice video
@kilo3989
@kilo3989 7 ай бұрын
I don't play Canlander, but I'm more or less able to follow this--glad to hear that folks are helping to keep Magic formats healthy and thriving!
@SjefDriscoll
@SjefDriscoll 8 ай бұрын
YOOOOOOOOOOOOO Thank you!!!! This rules!!!
@BrotherAlpha
@BrotherAlpha 8 ай бұрын
I don't play Canadian Highlander, but this was a very interesting video with a lot of great dialogue.
@krlbcn
@krlbcn 8 ай бұрын
What's the proxy rule Sacha mentions in the beginning? Can't find it elsewhere
@devoidMelody
@devoidMelody 8 ай бұрын
just their local metagame, they allow 10 or so proxies iirc
@mikwiebe450
@mikwiebe450 8 ай бұрын
Yes in Victoria at yellowjacket games a deck is allowed 12 proxies (they upped it) which absolutely rules because I can feasibly play there even though I didn't start playing until 2018 and have no power 9 or reserve list cards lol
@martinphillips2461
@martinphillips2461 8 ай бұрын
I don't play Canadian Highlander but feel deeply invested in the points list...
@jonw1599
@jonw1599 8 ай бұрын
Sacha has a good vibe. I'd like to see more of them if they'd like
@bloodblade487
@bloodblade487 8 ай бұрын
That's a lot of hubris. Haha love y'all LRRMTG
@pdieraue
@pdieraue 8 ай бұрын
Nonbasic hate going to 0 is just good clean livin'.
@marxmeesterlijk
@marxmeesterlijk 8 ай бұрын
Crop Rotation and Transmute artifact opened up two slots in my academy deck, so I removed Mana Drain so I could play Mox Sapphire
@overmused
@overmused 8 ай бұрын
Man, I haven't updated any of my canlander decks in like a year. Other than maybe upping the pimp version of a card or two in it. I miss playing games regularly but commander has become the defacto format at my new shop. Current brews are: U/W/g control, Oath of Druids/Spellslinger combo-control (using "p/t equal to spells" creatures), and a weird low to the ground madness/graveyard aggro deck.
@AdjectiveObject
@AdjectiveObject 8 ай бұрын
Feels intentional that wheeler showcased the 4c hot bant format bully on fnpf immediately before this points update came out. Or just a happy accident that makes the changes seem reasonable
@emilysmith2965
@emilysmith2965 5 ай бұрын
HOT BANT 🥵
@faronyoung9609
@faronyoung9609 8 ай бұрын
Sacha has great banter. Great inclusion 👍
@KyuuStarr
@KyuuStarr 8 ай бұрын
Ben, you know, I don’t know how I would brew that deck considering I don’t have anyone around me who plays Canlander and I’m making chicken soup right now. Is it weird that I enjoy following Canlander despite that I’ll likely never play it? Yeah probably, but we ball.
@chrisancliffe8799
@chrisancliffe8799 8 ай бұрын
Hey clarification question @1:50 Sacha mentions the change in the proxy rule, can anyone tell me what it was and what it became? Is it simply proxies are allowed or proxies aren't allowed?
@barneymiller3689
@barneymiller3689 8 ай бұрын
It’s a rule at Yellowjacket that you can have 10 proxies but that isn’t a format rule. 10 or 100 proxies is common for other stores
@Tr1sh4Lynn
@Tr1sh4Lynn 8 ай бұрын
I’m not a CanLander player but I do love hearing Wheeler talk about it. This was a fun listen. A bit of feedback, though: Sascha’s audio feels low to my ears. I hope I’m the not the only one who is having difficulty hearing him speak. If I am, I need to make a doctor’s appointment. 😢
@Oakenbull
@Oakenbull 8 ай бұрын
FOOD DECK! LETS GO
@sadiepeebles205
@sadiepeebles205 18 күн бұрын
I wanna know if canadian highlander is gonna do anything about the other eternal formats banning stickers and attractions
@BenjaminKlahn
@BenjaminKlahn 8 ай бұрын
@14:01 can't understand the spoken name of the card that goes with flash, "Sand Wandis?"
@bwheelermtg
@bwheelermtg 8 ай бұрын
Samwise Gamgee from LotR: Tales of Middle-Earth
@seandun7083
@seandun7083 8 ай бұрын
It allows you to combo with viscera seer and cauldron familiar which totals to 4 mana leaving room for the protection packages mentioned.
@BenjaminKlahn
@BenjaminKlahn 8 ай бұрын
@@seandun7083 excellent, thanks!
@pyredynasty
@pyredynasty 8 ай бұрын
Looks like this date went points up.
@RobSTom5
@RobSTom5 8 ай бұрын
I'd love to see cards as groups be pointed. E.g. Including any iniative cards is one point.
@grantw2128
@grantw2128 8 ай бұрын
How do I not even remember Oracle going to seven, like last I checked it was one or two
@germanyjones2700
@germanyjones2700 8 ай бұрын
Soooo who’s your friend he’s cuuuuuuuuuuuuuute :p
@Tr1sh4Lynn
@Tr1sh4Lynn 8 ай бұрын
Agreed! Also I appreciate a snappy dresser, which Sascha appears to be.
@Mother_boards
@Mother_boards 8 ай бұрын
As someone who mostly just watches MtG, and has certainly never played in any Powerful Magic formats like Canlander, can someone explain to me why Flash is so powerful? What are the combos it enables?
@devoidMelody
@devoidMelody 8 ай бұрын
Flash + protean hulk lets you put 6cmc worth of creatures into play, what you do with that 6cmc varies but it usually ends with the opponent dying
@seandun7083
@seandun7083 8 ай бұрын
You flash in protean hulk and let it die which then allows you to get up to 6 MV worth of creatures split up among any number of bodies. LOTR gave us Samwise Gamgee who combos with Cauldron Familiar and Viscera Seer to drain your opponent out. Since that totals to only 4 mana, you have 2 more for protection pieces like Grand Abolisher. So the combo requires you to resolve a single 2 mana instant with hulk in hand at which point it is incredibly hard to disrupt especially since flash has you sacrifice it as part of the resolution leaving no room for something like swords to plowshares to stop the death trigger.
@chronoarms4821
@chronoarms4821 8 ай бұрын
So flashes wording on the card means you get to do an evoke style effect for ANY creature in your hand. Things like Craterhoof, Atraxa, Niv Mizzit ect all do super powerful ETB effects but flash let's you just put them into play for (basically) free. Yes they die immediately after entering (unless you pay the mana cost reduced by 2, which is also really strong because it let's you play creatures at weird times that your opponent won't be expecting, for instance instant speed 1 mana initiative creature) but you don't care about the creature you care about the etb.
@DrSnap23
@DrSnap23 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for having us Wheeler, it's great to be here
@Sorran87
@Sorran87 8 ай бұрын
Has there been any further discussion around Initiative cards and The One Ring?
@peewee0224
@peewee0224 8 ай бұрын
neither are even close to pointable
@reaperseeker
@reaperseeker 8 ай бұрын
From an above comment (copied wholesale to have his exact wording): @bwheelermtg 2 hours ago Card is brand new, not as ubiquitous as it seems (compared to other formats especially) and more of a reliability w/o multiples
@natoraishido
@natoraishido 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the free TNN. URx is eating!
@Jalais
@Jalais 8 ай бұрын
Id love to see Sacha on N100
@hannahgeraghty4201
@hannahgeraghty4201 8 ай бұрын
Well I play Medium Black, so I won't be breaking any metas anytime soon
@davidian12
@davidian12 8 ай бұрын
Did you all never do a WOE nicknames episode or am I just blind ?
@AutumnReel4444
@AutumnReel4444 8 ай бұрын
I am glad PoP was reduced
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 8 ай бұрын
6:55 someone forgot about the black and white land hate like contamination and cataclysm
@peewee0224
@peewee0224 8 ай бұрын
welp paradox academy is now by far the best deck.
@kvitkart
@kvitkart 8 ай бұрын
The one ring must be added to point list
@Finkeldinken
@Finkeldinken 8 ай бұрын
This boomer-zoomer better stay! Absolutely 100% enjoyment!
@Mewtwoisabeast
@Mewtwoisabeast 8 ай бұрын
the one ring needs to be 5 points
@bloodblade487
@bloodblade487 8 ай бұрын
Anyone else think The One Ring should be 2 points minimum? :)
@Venoseth
@Venoseth 8 ай бұрын
What if, to combat 4 color degeneracy, fetches/duals/triomes all cost 1/4 point?
@NoiCrezant
@NoiCrezant 8 ай бұрын
Ban Drannith Magistate in commander
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 8 ай бұрын
LRR has nothing to do with the commander banlist, so can't help with that.
@raisins7777
@raisins7777 8 ай бұрын
@@simonteesdale9752 Well, Wheeler is on the CAG so he does have input, but this is a weird place to shout at him about Commander.
@pyredynasty
@pyredynasty 8 ай бұрын
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