you should do Diamondback vs. CandyMonium! That would be awesome
@soobinsbread5904 жыл бұрын
Now that makes more sense
@mythicgamingmk110510 ай бұрын
Candymonium made a good fight against Orion. Candymonium and Orion are tall rides but Candymonium made Orion worry a little bit
@mythicgamingmk11053 ай бұрын
I hope B&M makes more Hypers and dive coasters and in pretty sure they will
@cardio81334 жыл бұрын
For airtime I prefer candymonium For intensity I prefer Orion
@highoctanegames3 жыл бұрын
Speed definitely goes to Orion
@Sammerthehammer414 жыл бұрын
Candymonium won in all the important categories.
@disasterexperiments4934 жыл бұрын
I know right!?!
@maxsmart50194 жыл бұрын
totally right I’m going on Wednesday and I’m a season pass holder so I go a lot but this will be my first time riding candymonium
@mythicgamingmk110511 ай бұрын
Candymonium is a great ride and it out up a fight against a giga
@joeybremer58584 жыл бұрын
Do diamondback vs candymonium
@kkr2034 жыл бұрын
Kings Island already has a Candymonium, It's called Diamondback.
@christianstinson53734 жыл бұрын
Except Candy is better!
@LucasShrock4 жыл бұрын
@@christianstinson5373 hg GB vcd g bnb cg no
@kylebetz96844 жыл бұрын
Tropic No, Diamondback gang rise up
@Zrj194 жыл бұрын
Kyle Betz im here
@hersheyparkfan27724 жыл бұрын
Tropic yes it is Candymonium shall not be underestimated
@AirtimeThrills4 жыл бұрын
Ill get on these in about a month, I think I'll like Candymonium better but will have to see
@BruinPhD20093 жыл бұрын
I really like the fact that my Roller Coaster KZfaqrs are aware of and support each other. I hope you enjoyed your trips!
@jameskrten11644 жыл бұрын
Please do a Candymonium vs Nitro video!
@InfinitePlaylist9094 жыл бұрын
Got to ride Candymonium 10x yesterday! It’s so good - I’m normally a back-row die hard, but riding CM up front was a game changer! I definitely think the airtime is better in the final half of the ride up front, and nothing beats looking down that drop. It’s so well paced, the layout is smooth and the speed never lets up. The interaction with the Kisses fountain and the crowds at the front gate is one of my favorite coaster experiences ever, and you feel some mist on your face! Got 5 rides in the first 2 rows, five in the back 2. Highlight of the past 4 months for sure, and I’m so glad Hershey has this in the lineup as their premiere coaster. It’s really stellar.
@mythicgamingmk1105 Жыл бұрын
Candymonium is a big boy ride and it’s name makes me think of hyper coaster because you can get hyper over candy
@LandonVoss763 жыл бұрын
I have ridden both and candy minimums definitely the best.
@jorgechiubomberos4 жыл бұрын
Today, August 3 of 2020, I went to kings Island, no line in Orion, got to do it 10 times. Literally, you got off and just had to walk in, clime the stairs and ride it again. I only stop, because I was hungry.
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Ahh dang! Wish I was there too!
@d3th2m3rikkka3 жыл бұрын
Stats:Orion Name (which doesn't matter in my opinion): Orion Theming/Presentation: tie View:Orion First drop : Orion Intensity:Orion Airtime:Candymonium Layout:Candymonium Smoothness:Candymonium Re-Rideability:Tie Ride Experience:Candymonium Other things that don't matter:Orion Overall winner: Candymonium
@andrewwudarczyk26154 жыл бұрын
I’ve ridden both multiple times. I do agree with most of the points, but for me the airtime and smoothness makes Candymonium the better ride.
@OklahomaCoasterFan4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to decide for myself this coming week. The storms have caused me to rearrange the trip entirely. Kings Island, then work around to Hershey and back. If you're planning to be at Kennywood on August 8th, I'll be there.
@BruinPhD20093 жыл бұрын
Oklahoma Coaster Fan Did you get in your trips? How were the coasters? You can’t leave us hanging here. 🤣
@OklahomaCoasterFan3 жыл бұрын
@@BruinPhD2009 I'm slowly getting my videos posted from that trip. Still need to post Knoebels, Hershey, & Kennywood. In summary, I like Orion more than Candymonium. I may even like it more than Fury. Ravine Flyer II was my favorite new credit from the trip, having been to Cedar Point before.
@jameskrten11643 жыл бұрын
I assume you prefer Candymonium over Nitro based on your comments about it but you should def do a Candymonium vs Nitro video!
@mythicgamingmk1105 Жыл бұрын
Candymonium gives more airtime is smoother also is a monster coaster and has a good layout
@joeybremer58584 жыл бұрын
Skyrush vs candymonium, that would be sick. I am a huge Hershey fan, after all it is my home park. I am really stunned with both rides.
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Video coming soon!
@sedricgranger4 жыл бұрын
Orion’s TURNAROUND is about the height of Candymonium 😂 end of discussion...nah real talk, both are amazing rides! I love my B&M’s!
@JJJJ-he8bz4 жыл бұрын
Its insane that there is a debate about this he even tried to make an argument the drops were comparable like stop it a 210 foot drop vs a 300 foot drop at an 85 degree angle.
@sedricgranger4 жыл бұрын
JJ JJ exactly! I honestly don’t get why people are so hard on Orion! People always try to find some sort of excuse to bring it down! It’s a great ride and one of my personal favorites
@JJJJ-he8bz4 жыл бұрын
Sedric Granger it’s ridiculous no ones doing a debate with candymonium and Millennium Force or Leviathan, Fury only Orion because it’s ONLY 287 feet tall which is already taller than most coasters it goes higher than the top deck of the Effie tower and drops 300 feet into a valley and that’s not good enough.
@sedricgranger4 жыл бұрын
JJ JJ exactly! People in the coaster community just want to complain! I mean I’m an Ohioan so I am biased toward Ohio coasters! I feel the same whenever people want to say that Banshee, Diamondback, and Orion aren’t smooth! 🤦🏾♂️ they aren’t rough in the slightest!
@iwasn3v3rhere.4 жыл бұрын
Sedric Granger I agree with you about the rough part but last time I went to kings island banshee was super rough idk what happened 😂
@RY30DM4 жыл бұрын
I went to Hersheypark last weekend, and I went in beforehand thinking that Candymonium wouldn't be that exciting. It's a B&M after all (I love my Intamins), and I figured the park was looking for something a whole lot tamer than Skyrush. Before I entered the parking lot, I also figured that it had a relatively short layout too. Well, after an hour-and-a half to two-hour wait last Saturday (the park was pretty busy, which is obviously good for Hershey) I boarded the back row, and that was recommended by a fellow coaster enthusiast I talked to while waiting in line. Holy crap is Candymonium amazing! There are many moments of sustained airtime that I was not expecting. One of my enthusiasts Facebook friends has called it a Northern Mako (haven't experienced it yet). There were two more categories of comparison that I felt you left out of your review. The first is lockers. Candy features complimentary lockers. I was in shock when the line attendant told me that. Skyrush also features complimentary lockers, which I think is new for this year (last year, I didn't have any loose articles with me). I haven't ridden Orion, but you have. The second is t-shirts. Candy only had one design, and to me, it was fairly ugly. I don't do tie dye or anything close to it, so hopefully they'll get some new designs next year. I would think that Orion would have the upper hand in this category since it's a Cedar Fair park. When I went to Cedar Point two years ago, it seemed like some attractions had like twenty different t-shirts or so. Seriously, it's out of control there. There must have been like three-hundred different designs to buy either with a rides name on it, or promoting Cedar Point.
@todayisyesterdaystomorrow69484 жыл бұрын
Both look so fun
@CoasterHorizons4 жыл бұрын
Candymonium is just visually stunning and picturesque. But again, so is Orion. Hershey and King's Island are probably very proud of their shiny new toys 🎢
@fervalencia304 жыл бұрын
This feels unfair somehow
@hersheyparkfan27724 жыл бұрын
Because one is a hyper and one is a giga also a lot of people are gonna go for the taller and faster and leave the smaller ride behind their backs
@CoasterHorizons4 жыл бұрын
You have to be a coaster enthusiast to really see beyond the stats and really appreciate the other factors like theming and airtime.
@coasterinsights944 жыл бұрын
Can you rank all the b&m hypers
@sunnyyylaneeee22383 жыл бұрын
candy monium all the way also can u do storm runner against candy monium
@skinsfan4424 жыл бұрын
Is this a valid comparison though? It’s a hyper vs a giga, giga will win every time
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily.
@chineselemonkitty7174 жыл бұрын
XscreamThrills ok so this may be a weird question , but do you remember how many workers/operator it took to run Orion?
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Between 6 - 10 people i think
@skinsfan4424 жыл бұрын
@@XscreamThrills first off I wanna say that I know this took a lot of time and I don't wanna take away any credibility from your work. But when would a hyper ever beat a giga? There's no real bad gigas out there (you would know better than me cause Ive never ridden one and my credit count is super low)
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Im assuming many would prefer a hyper over Steel Dragon 2000. Even I would prefer a couple hyper coasters over Millennium Force, it's all about your own personal preference. I305 is super intense and some don't like that, meaning yet again a hyper coaster could be ranked higher.
@bryandiaz10444 жыл бұрын
You should do candymonium vs nitro from Great Adventure
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't be a fair fight 😎
@mikelgarner30874 жыл бұрын
Lol neither was PA vs NJ in general
@PhantasMc864 жыл бұрын
It’s an unfair comparison but u really did a good job being fair
@chloedoggie88034 жыл бұрын
Orion is amazing in the front... Candymonium is 1000x better in ANY other row
@masturbatingkitten93004 жыл бұрын
Your comparing apples to oranges (hyper coaster vs giga coaster)
@diamondback-my3gm Жыл бұрын
Orion is way more footbally than Candymonium
@soobinsbread5904 жыл бұрын
I wish i could ride these b&m hypercoasters but oh well im not used to riding intense coasters and im afraid of graying out and another thing is I live in another continent sjshsjshehbs
@nv_spartan17714 жыл бұрын
Lack of theming around Orion? I thought there was tons of theming. However, the ride itself felt like an empty suit to me.
@jacobellis97524 жыл бұрын
Candymonium is a better hyper than Orion is a giga
@bradyzollars82124 жыл бұрын
Idk what you guys are talking about, I’ve ridden all three b&m at KI countless times ( besides Orion ) and I rarely notice a rattle on any of them.
@kylebetz96844 жыл бұрын
Brady Zollars yeah same idk why people keep saying that. The only noticeable one was banshee for me
@chasemartini71104 жыл бұрын
Gotten to ride all the B&Ms at KI, and only Banshee has a rattle. Even then, if you ride in the front two rows its not noticeable
@jordane74833 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly getting tired of watching videos because that’s all these coaster people talk about. I rode all three probably about 50 times total this year and it’s not even close to rough and the rattle I experienced is a slight discomfort at best 🤦🏻♂️. If at all.
@CaveRunLegend4 жыл бұрын
Skyrush is better than both by a mile
@alishastalls88284 жыл бұрын
Uhhh....no, Intamin fan boy.
@CaveRunLegend4 жыл бұрын
@@alishastalls8828 your just soft as charmin to enjoy it.
@jessajessa57474 жыл бұрын
Thighcrush *shudders* 🥴
@EastCoasters4 жыл бұрын
@newjerseycoasters spotted at 5:53 🥃
@guitarman4164 жыл бұрын
I want to ride both to really feel each coaster out but from video, Orion seems to have a more varied track layout than Candymonium. When I safely leave California without quarantining for two weeks, I'll get out and ride them
@andyamoroso99214 жыл бұрын
Ride Fury 325 in 2021...... Carowinds is closed for the rest of this season (2020). And the same for Kings Dominion........ What a bummer. 😭
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
It's sad, but looking forward to visiting in 2021
@singlerailindustries17634 жыл бұрын
Both Rides Are Awesome But I Find Candymonium Better Because Of The Outward Banked Hill Under The Lift. ( My Opinion ).
@johnlovesbridge4 жыл бұрын
The contempt in your voice when you said "West Coast Racers" 😱
@wyattsattazahn76414 жыл бұрын
Orion doesn’t have a wait at all!! Kings island ride ops have been dispatching sooo quickly!! Also how many times did you get on orion? Morning ride versus night ride is quite a difference. I got front and back at both times the other day
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
I got two rides on Orion
@disasterexperiments4934 жыл бұрын
Candymonium is smoother than B U T T E R and just like a stick of butter, it looks GOOD ENOUGH TO EAT, candymonium is the clear winner here. Also, I dont care what you think it has a way better name. What type of gigacoaster is named ORION!?!
@connorfrank88704 жыл бұрын
This might be the dumbest comment I’ve ever read
@disasterexperiments4934 жыл бұрын
@@connorfrank8870 it was a joke btw
@MillenniumForceMan4 жыл бұрын
It’s super tall B&M hyper vs super short B&M hyper but it isn’t really fair
@ducksfan_11494 жыл бұрын
Millennium Force Man Giga. spell it with me. g-i-g-a.
@Mart933104 жыл бұрын
Millennium Force Man cedar fair MADE the term “giga”, they can change the definition if they want, plus, Apollo’s considered a hyper cause of its drop, why can’t Orion be?
@MillenniumForceMan4 жыл бұрын
Ducksfan _11 h-y-p-e-r
@MillenniumForceMan4 жыл бұрын
ElectricGamingBoy Apollo is not a hyper at all wdym
@LucasShrock4 жыл бұрын
@@MillenniumForceMan it's a giga
@QoasterMaster4 жыл бұрын
Candymonium looks like an airtime machine, but also looks like it lacks pacing. Orion has fantastic pacing but it looks like it has very few airtime moments (a good contrast to diamondback) and is too short. Edit: I realised I was watching hersheypark's POV!!!
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Candymonium has good pacing actually
@QoasterMaster4 жыл бұрын
@@XscreamThrills That was because I was looking at hersheypark's POV. They shoot slow POV's.
@coastercountdowns77364 жыл бұрын
Yesssssssss!!!
@neilpeddle41694 жыл бұрын
It’s not really a fair comparison, but I understand why the video was made. A lot of people will want to know, which one to ride first. This kind of video helps to make up people’s minds. When I look at both the one big mistake on either coaster to me, is Orion’s first hill after the first drop. It turns on its side which will decrease its airtime. If it was just left as an airtime hill it would be much better in my opinion
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Or made it an outer banked turn 😁
@JJJJ-he8bz4 жыл бұрын
It’s like comparing Rookie to All Pro. It’s ridiculous Orion is taller faster and steeper plus it’s turnaround is as big as candymonium I don’t understand how this is a discussion. No one is making videos with Candymonium vs Fury or leviathan I think people just hate on Orion because it’s ONLY 287 feet tall and the drop is ONLY 300 feet
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Being taller or faster doesn't mean it'll be better
@zacg_4 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, while Hersheypark was founded by Milton Hershey and the park partners heavily with The Hershey Company that makes chocolates, the park is not owned by the candy company. Nor are they owned by a common parent company. So unfortunately Hersheypark is not actually owned by a candy company.
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Oh I didn't realize that!
@zacg_4 жыл бұрын
@@XscreamThrills I used to think the same thing. I mean, it kind of seems like they are the same company. Milton Hershey started the park as a carnival of sorts for his factory workers but it was owned not as a subsidiary of his chocolate company but as a separate property venture. It's now part of Hershey Resorts and Entertainment. The two companies' histories are obviously intermingled and they partner heavily for that reason (and because they share the name Hershey and are located in freakin' Hershey, Pennsylvania.) It makes me think about the relationship between Busch Gardens and the Anheuser-Busch company. Except, the beer company actually DID originally own and operate the theme parks but sold them to SeaWorld and now just partners with them. I want to see more random companies have their own theme park (or at least a partnered park.) Heck, we all know that Marriot dabbled in the theme park business which led to a super confusing Great America scenario that spans the Cedar Fair and Six Flags divide. We should have a theme park operated by Apple or Microsoft. And how does McDonalds not have a theme park?
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
McDonald's theme park is Six flags lol
@zacg_4 жыл бұрын
@@XscreamThrills that sounds about right!
@RY30DM4 жыл бұрын
@@zacg_ Don't forget about Tayto World in Ireland, a park based around a potato chip called, you guessed it, a Tayto.
@cancelled1484 жыл бұрын
Tbh the turn the bank under the candymoniums ride reminds me of Mavericks last inversion.
@collegeluvr4 жыл бұрын
For me Candymonium has the edge. It was just pure fun. Orion is amazing, but Candy has a few tricks up its sleeve.
@pittsburghthrills12813 жыл бұрын
Red Force is the shortest giga, not Candymonium or I305
@XscreamThrills3 жыл бұрын
I was referring to the height, not track length
@pittsburghthrills12813 жыл бұрын
@@XscreamThrills Oh. It seemed like you were referring to length. Sorry about correcting you.
@12patstombrady4 жыл бұрын
Orion is better but it’s kind of unfair to compare.
@asterisks30624 жыл бұрын
Red Force is the shortest giga
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting that's considered a Giga
@RY30DM4 жыл бұрын
I've always thought it was more like a shorter Top Thrill Dragster. To me, a giga has more in the way of hills and such.
@yashi51194 жыл бұрын
6:33 doesnt i305 have 5100 ft of track amd orion has a little over 5300
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
I said it backwards but what I meant is i305 is shortest followed next by Orion
@yashi51194 жыл бұрын
XscreamThrills oh ok
@lp30784 жыл бұрын
most airtime of any coaster at hershey??? skyrush has to take that. there's like 2 seconds of airtime in all of candymonium
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
I got at least 4 seconds of airtime on the first airtime hill, so definitely more than 2 seconds
@Zrj194 жыл бұрын
On my way to Orion!!
@car_tar3882 Жыл бұрын
0:22 I think you made a mistake Orion is a hyper
@XscreamThrills Жыл бұрын
lol
@ColeStudios64 жыл бұрын
Your comparing a hyper and a giga...That’s honestly not fair..
@randywest25914 жыл бұрын
Randy West Love ❤️ Candy Monium EST. 2020 at Hersheypark & Orion EST. 2020 at Kings Island.
@NickMcGrew19994 жыл бұрын
Great video! I honestly like the name Orion more than Polaris. Also, no hate but Red Force has the shortest giga track length, not Orion.
@RainbowDemon4 жыл бұрын
3 new coasters? What is it besides candy and ori
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Texas Stingray
@RY30DM4 жыл бұрын
@@XscreamThrills I forgot about that one.
@arkitect1564 жыл бұрын
Candymoniums first drop due to terrain i believe 230 ft or within 10 ft of that
@cryptical50184 жыл бұрын
I Would like to ride them both but you know... Borders are closed.
@badlycroppedalanschilke95314 жыл бұрын
Ayyy i agree
@eweamy94774 жыл бұрын
This is unfair giga to hyper
@anthonystevens27384 жыл бұрын
I agree I just rode candy earlier this week and it was amazing
@jessechristopher98783 жыл бұрын
Why not just make this “Orion is best” video?
@ducksfan_11494 жыл бұрын
smh the East gets two B&M hyper models in a year and the west is stuck with all the worst hypers. seriously... how have we not figured this out. there aren’t any good traditional hypers west of Chicago.
@oldchannel55764 жыл бұрын
I hope both CGA and Knotts get good hypers
@ducksfan_11494 жыл бұрын
Old channel amen to that. Knott’s is my hp and Diamondback is my #1 so I’m literally dying over here
@oldchannel55764 жыл бұрын
Ducksfan _11 Haha Cga is my home park and I’m hoping they get a B&M hyper, and that Knotts gets a Mack hyper
@ducksfan_11494 жыл бұрын
Old channel that would be sweet. I got to admit it’s pretty frustrating Knotts carries the chain in attendance but doesnt get a thrill coaster as often as the other major parks. I’m sure CGA will get up to Knott’s attendance level when you guys get a couple more major coasters. Railblazer absolutely slaps.
@oldchannel55764 жыл бұрын
Ducksfan _11 I hope so, the bay is a good place to expand. I wish Knotts got more coasters too, but seeing as they are landlocked and they already get such high attendance makes a little sense at least. For CGA, if they get the hyper I won’t ask for another coaster for 10 years lmao
@maxarimany5464 жыл бұрын
Diamondback v candy
@mikelgarner30874 жыл бұрын
So which do you think will win the Golden Ticket for best new coaster?
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Orion, because of the fanboys
@Thrill_King4 жыл бұрын
Why is Orion a high!?
@quix95564 жыл бұрын
What?
@notaidan4054 жыл бұрын
Dang it
@vinyl_guy..4 жыл бұрын
kkr203 is right and I know because Kings Island is my home park
@ItsSiebay4 жыл бұрын
Orion is basically a larger Candymonium. Change my mind.
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
I can see the similarities
@Red_Ryan_Red4 жыл бұрын
The different categories seem kind of off to me.
@randywest25914 жыл бұрын
Randy West Love ❤️ Kings Island in Mason, Ohio USA 🇺🇸 & Hersheypark in Hershey, Pennsylvania USA 🇺🇸.
@rmasterstudios4 жыл бұрын
The reason Orion ahs its name is because Orion hunts Beasts. AS in Orion beat the Beast
@cleonituk4 жыл бұрын
Too bad none of the other new for 2020 coasters will open til 2021.
@starrbright64233 жыл бұрын
U can't even compare them
@XscreamThrills3 жыл бұрын
But i did anyways 😎
@JJJJ-he8bz4 жыл бұрын
Orion gets too much hate and candymonium gets way to much hype this is like comparing JV to varsity . Its like enthusiasts have a mob of what coasters they hate and like. Orion is literally in upgraded canymonium its 100 feet taller has a turnaround thats about as tall as candymonium its self has the same trains and resistant and track design plus about 15 miles faster with a steeper drop. It even has a speed hill following a 200 foot tall turnaround like how is this a debate?
@Thrill_King4 жыл бұрын
I meant giga
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN4 жыл бұрын
I assume you're asking why Orion is classified as a Giga. Its because of its drop. Its approximately, 300 feet (91 Meters). There are two metrics to take into consideration for ride classification 1.) overall height, and 2.) height/length of the drop. Hyper's classification require an overall height OR a drop within the ranges of 200-299 feet or 60-90 Meters. While Giga's classification are within the range of 300-399 feet or 91-121 Meters, on overall height OR drop. For Example; 1.)Apollo's Chariot in Busch Gardens Williamsburg has an overall height of 170 feet (52 Meters) BUT a drop of 210 feet (64 Meters) classifying it as a Hyper due to its drop being with in the hyper classification range 2.)Orion has a height of 287 feet (87 Meters) BUT a drop of 300 feet (91 Meters). Thus classifying it as a Giga. As Orion meets 1 of the 2 requirements for said classification. BUT if you want to be technical about it, B&M does NOT distinguish these (Hypers and Gigas) as different models. There are the same according to B&M and in fact the term "Hyper Coaster" and "Giga Coaster" are just made up terms for marketing purposes. Cedar Point coined the terms on Magnum XL 200's opening and then again on Millennium Forces opening.
@Thrill_King4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@HeatherBurns474 жыл бұрын
Wa wa wa wa oh no a little vibration 😭😭 it’s not smooth, jeeze shut up it doesn’t affect the ride at all
@plushxwx4 жыл бұрын
favorite company didnt win?
@jaydenchrist61524 жыл бұрын
Orion
@coastercosmo61543 жыл бұрын
No one cares about a "Rattle" or a "Vibration" that you cant even feel, i know your an minor orion hater clearly, and orion is as smooth as glass, so is EVERY B&M IN THE PARK, they are all smooth
@XscreamThrills3 жыл бұрын
I created a followup video where I discussed the rattle. I said it was gone. Also I love Orion and definitely not a hater
@coastercosmo61543 жыл бұрын
@@XscreamThrills ok
@YourPointOfViewPodcast4 жыл бұрын
I heard Orion not that good and it look lame
@mitchellries2564 жыл бұрын
You're seriously comparing a hyper to a giga? Isn't it always an obvious answer?