Canes & Self Defense // Reality & Techniques

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411 Outdoors LLC

411 Outdoors LLC

3 ай бұрын

In this episode,  we will be taking a look at canes and self-defense as well as techniques and reality. I will be showcasing the Kabar TDI Self Defense Cane. #walkingcane #selfdefense #kabar
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@JamesSmith-gn9ou
@JamesSmith-gn9ou 3 ай бұрын
The number one benefit is that they are considered a medical device, therefore allowed on public transportation. However, if a senior citizen is convinced that they will be able to repel a group of young fast thugs with a cane or any other type of impact weapon, they are setting themselfs up for failure and possibly an early grave. Situational awareness is key, so seniors and others do not go out at midnight to fill up your vehicle in a shady part of town etc. Common sense will help keep you collecting those SS checks a while longer. Excellent presentation as always and my above comment is not to disparage your excellent tutorial.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@kaoskronostyche9939
@kaoskronostyche9939 3 ай бұрын
I am elderly and use a cane as an ambulatory device and as a tactical weapon (Cold Steel Axe Head Tactical Cane) but I also carry a "quick draw" pepper spray and a large fighting knife. On certain occasions I also carry a tactical baton. For evening wear dining and dancing I switch to another tactical can which has a nasty surprise lurking within. If someone takes my cane, there are several surprises awaiting them. The thing is I have martial arts experience and I actually practice with these items. Of course "situational awareness" is crucial and my head is on a swivel at all times.
@tandiparent1906
@tandiparent1906 3 ай бұрын
True but situational awareness should be the case no matter how old a person is.
@JamesSmith-gn9ou
@JamesSmith-gn9ou 3 ай бұрын
@@tandiparent1906 Absolutely. The sad actuality is that no matter how well one is prepared, when the feral savages get the jump on an individual, they will probably win. This is why an ambush is so effective, action vs reaction. Factor in the much slower reflexes and strength of a senior citizen and those factors just make it easier for the predators, and they know this. If one looks like food etc.
@GVan1953
@GVan1953 3 ай бұрын
Many years ago, one of the things that women's anti-rape self-defense courses taught of any value was the concept of "Never give up and continue to resist. No matter what". Keep swinging with that cane until the cops eventually show up. "It is better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6."
@arnehusby1420
@arnehusby1420 3 ай бұрын
Norway is fortunately a safe country, I have used my Cane for real once and it was a success. I am a 65 old Army Veteran and must be one of the only ones here who trains with Canes, for fun, defense and to stay fit as I am aging.
@elsullo2
@elsullo2 3 ай бұрын
I have walked with a heavy hardwood cane for almost two decades and have seen a lot of videos about defense. Random thoughts: Lightweight tubular aluminum canes are WORTHLESS for defense. Get something thick and heavy. The best inexpensive source is Stock Canes from Lehman's---thick and heavy solid Eastern Hickory (the shaft is smooth and the crook is octagonal!) NEVER put the heavy crook end of the cane near an adversary because they can grab the hook from you inescapably! Only swing the thin end, and hang on to the handle. That groin move is VERY IMPORTANT: walk with the open end of the cane forward, maybe stealthily move your hand forward and down for the most leverage, then swing it upward as hard you can into their family jewels. Keep the thin shaft of the cane smooth (no knurling) and even oiled so that it is too slippery to grab---and do not glue the rubber end cap on so it does not give a hand-hold to them. That wide and sharp end of the crook can become a legal nightmare: the assailant can claim innocence in court and that you obviously went out looking for trouble with that sharp hook! Finally, beware of some stranger approaching your front with big smile; there is often their friend sneaking up from your back with a knife!.................................elsullo
@USMC6976
@USMC6976 3 ай бұрын
Doesn't have to be thick and heavy. You just need the right wood and tempering. Treat it like a short stick, not a sword.
@davidheath2427
@davidheath2427 3 ай бұрын
So from one who uses a cane thank you. I use the cane because of knee replacement. So i can sort of rest a leg for a while whilst on a long walk . My walking stick has it's roots in Ireland. It's a short stick from a brier and has a bulbous end where it joins the trunk. I liked your thoughts on the jabs , a boxers main weapon. And yes to everyone out there balancing is the biggest problem. Also flexibility . Can not bend ,twist ,well move like i once could . Thank you once more . May god smile on you always.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!🙂
@davidglazener7921
@davidglazener7921 3 ай бұрын
Considered a weapon and can't be taken certain places like an airplane.
@alfredbourassa7863
@alfredbourassa7863 3 ай бұрын
@@davidglazener7921 I take mine EVERYWHERE that includes airplanes it's against HIPA to ask me why I carry a cane. It is a mobility device.
@davidheath2427
@davidheath2427 3 ай бұрын
@@davidglazener7921 not if you have a legitimate reason . They are not that harsh .
@jamesstraub4981
@jamesstraub4981 3 ай бұрын
The Shillelagh has been used for many years with "profound effect" indeed.
@richarddaugherty8583
@richarddaugherty8583 3 ай бұрын
Great video with great points! I'm 67 and occasionally need a cane due to a trick ankle. I prefer the Canemasters plain "walking" cane to anything with fancy grips for one primary reason. I don't want someone to look at it and see a weapon. I can carry it in places where I either can't carry my firearm, or my firearm would not be a good choice, such as in a crowd. Having done sword takeaways in the dojo, you're spot on about the jab to set up the swing. One also needs to be mentally prepared ahead of time. If that day ever comes that one must wield a weapon for real, one has to accept that they will grievously damage or kill another human being. If it's time to use a weapon it's time to fight with every ounce of energy and go no-holds-barred. Not everyone can do that. I respect that. Those people need to seek other options. The other thing that will keep people out of 95% of problems is the following three rules: Don't go to stupid places. Don't do stupid S--t. And finally, don't hang out with stupid people!
@TOPFIVEFIT
@TOPFIVEFIT 3 ай бұрын
Purple Heart Armory is a pro-vet company in Texas that makes some great hardwood canes, including my own hickory Elephant Cane. Having trained in traditional karate for over 24 years, it pains me to see some of the cane "instruction" available on KZfaq. I've been looking for some simple stick fighting techniques applicable to a cane, so I was very glad to see this post. And YES - I carry a knife all the time as a secondary weapon, and will carry a firearm if and when NY grants me a license to do so. ANYWAY - keep up the great work - I always enjoy seeing a new post. THANKS! BTW, I have degenerative hip arthritis, so I'm not able to train the way I used to. Love the content!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@tymesho
@tymesho 3 ай бұрын
Goodelaw, I have the SAME diagnosis! We both know PRACTICE is crucial in order to know our capabilities as this condition progresses. NEVER give an inch!
@davidglazener7921
@davidglazener7921 3 ай бұрын
I think the basic "rifle grip" is one of the best. One hand on each end of the cane. Jerk up and hit under the chin. Hit right above the lip. Hit under the nose or hard down on the nose. Twist with BOTH hands if the opponent tries to grab it. On the side hit the ribs, elbow, jaw and head.
@surewhatever8843
@surewhatever8843 2 ай бұрын
I’ve found the angled stance has the added benefit of rear view peripheral vision. I’ve caught myself standing that way even when engaging in group conversation when out and about. As children, my siblings and I were always trying to ambush each other. It was a ongoing game and as the youngest, smallest and weakest of our family, I got good at spotting pinch points. I walk wide around corners, check bushes ahead, look high & low, and there’s not a car in the parking lot I haven’t scoped inside and under as I’m determining my path. As with many things, I thought this was “normal” raising/training - like hide & seek or tag. I was astonished when I got out into the broader world that it wasn’t. Hyper vigilance can be exhausting, but I’ll take it.
@UrsaMinor2010
@UrsaMinor2010 3 ай бұрын
"It's going to have a profound effect." You are a national treasure.
@santossalinas4221
@santossalinas4221 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of being aware of your situation, I hate seeing these young girls walking around staring at their phones and not watching their surroundings. I tell my daughter and nieces all the time to keep their eyes and ears open and to stay alert.
@elsullo2
@elsullo2 3 ай бұрын
But it IS fun to watch them walk into poles and trip into potholes and fountains!...................................elsullo
@Gerald-do9yg
@Gerald-do9yg 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir, Spoken like a true father! When I see those walls filled with pictures of missing young women, I can't help but wonder if they were on their phone! Blsgs, gg
@elzippo488
@elzippo488 3 ай бұрын
Just wait until April 8th when everyone will be starring up at the eclipse for 4 minutes LOL!!
@santossalinas4221
@santossalinas4221 3 ай бұрын
@@elzippo488 facts. As a matter of fact I mentioned something about the same thing to someone and all they could was smile at me with the blankest eyes I've ever seen.
@spookybaba
@spookybaba 3 ай бұрын
Young men, too.
@mortykatz2236
@mortykatz2236 3 ай бұрын
Great job I am 73 years old and I have neuropathy in my feet and legs. This is perfect for me. I also pocket carry J frame 642 so as a back up, I just have to keep my situation awareness a top priority.
@paulgraberandshaolinarts604
@paulgraberandshaolinarts604 3 ай бұрын
Great video. As a martial artist, instructor and disabled person I can say that everything you said is spot on. Great content as usual.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much 🙂
@hypmotizedbysoles
@hypmotizedbysoles 3 ай бұрын
Been carrying a cane for several years due to a physical disability. I prefer hickory, had several made to my specifications. When I was a young man I trained for nearly 20 years in karate and kendo. Realized early these taught discipline but of little use in practical street application. Within my first year I also began learning actual street and knife fighting from a special forces buddy and a few ne’er do wells who weren’t above busting heads when needed. Went on to teach real world self defense techniques for several years after. As a result when training with my cane I know my limitations and have no illusions. I focus on practical, targeted, powerful jabs, hooks and strikes. Fancy stuff some “instructors” promote like twirling and such will get you killed quick. I also CCW and pack a blade. At the least a cane strike may buy a few seconds to draw down if needed. Better to go down fighting and maybe take a bad guy or two along the way. Thanks for the practical point of view offered in your video.
@tonyedge2457
@tonyedge2457 3 ай бұрын
I sure like Your attitude !!!that's the way to be...
@bertwoodshack6617
@bertwoodshack6617 3 ай бұрын
I agree due to the explosive nature of street attacks you may only get one shot it better be low skill high impact and low cost because if your older and it gets grabbed it's probably not going to end well.
@airgunsanonymouslesslethal1904
@airgunsanonymouslesslethal1904 3 ай бұрын
-You might suport yourself w/ your cane while giving a knee kick. -You might swing it back n forth in front of their groin buying you a sec to get out your pepper spray. -I make strong brass handled canes and i like the idea of shin and knee strikes as they are hard to block.
@jamesw713
@jamesw713 3 ай бұрын
I've studied a bit of Irish stickfighting. 1. Your jab (Bayonet strike) is strong and effective. If you're going to rely on jabs, practice accuracy. Don't aim for the head, aim for the eye, nose, etc. Take a 2" circle and mount it somewhere to practice hitting small targets. If you get good at that, hang a tennis ball on a rope and practice hitting the moving target. Your target will move, aim small, and miss small. 2. A two-hand hold is good, too. There are videos out there showing how jabs and strikes like a hook can be done with a cane. It can also be used for great blocks followed by the bayonet strike. 3. Canemasters like the crook forward, I like it back. I use saber grips and techniques. Crook back makes the cane balance better for me. Especially, with the heavy Kabar, you can get away with more if you have a lighter wooden cane and the position doesn't matter as much. (Yes, I like my Kabar and added a paracord Turk's head knot. I can use saber techniques and it doesn't slide since the balance point is better just above the checkering.) 4. If you show a high swing, people put up their hands to protect their head. Start a swing high, but drop it towards their ribs or knees. If their hands are up, you hit without fear of them grabbing your cane. And, a broken rib or smashed knee will slow them down. Kabar cane is a great tool. I carry one in the semi and have another at home. It's legal in every state and a great force multiplier.
@dennisniemier3024
@dennisniemier3024 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up & very useful information here ! FJB 💕😺😺 FJB 💕🐕🐕🐕💕 FJB !
@kaoskronostyche9939
@kaoskronostyche9939 3 ай бұрын
I am elderly and use a cane as an ambulatory device and as a tactical weapon (Cold Steel Axe Head Tactical Cane) but I also carry a "quick draw" pepper spray and a large fighting knife. On certain occasions I also carry a tactical baton. For evening wear dining and dancing I switch to another tactical can which has a nasty surprise lurking within. If someone takes my cane, there are several surprises awaiting them. The thing is I have martial arts experience and I actually practice with these items. Of course "situational awareness" is crucial and my head is on a swivel at all times.
@artawhirler
@artawhirler 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this excellent video! I don't use a cane, even though I'm 68 years old, but I still appreciate the common sense, real world advice that you always provide on your channel. I especially agree with you on the importance of situational awareness, which is a big part of the reason I'm still alive and healthy after almost 70 years!
@tonyedge2457
@tonyedge2457 3 ай бұрын
Keep on keepin on man!
@makeitstick6712
@makeitstick6712 3 ай бұрын
So glad you made this video! I make self defense oriented canes for several years now. All have a strong hard wood shaft, brass head and foot with a alipine spike under the rubber foot.
@alexaliwarlock
@alexaliwarlock 3 ай бұрын
Great video and information. Thanks for providing such well thought out content 🙌
@chesteredwards9103
@chesteredwards9103 2 ай бұрын
I’m a 75 yr old male and have always tried to practice your 3 rules (from the first video I watched on this channel): 1) I learned the value of situational awareness while: attending multiple schools, working various jobs and frequenting Mexicali, as a teenager; and while stationed in Libya for my first assignment of my Air Force career; I’ve built upon that knowledge: every time I’ve walked in a strange (and nowadays familiar) city; hiked remote areas (hoping to see cougars, bears, snakes, rockslides etc, before it’s too late). 0:00 0:00 0:00 Everything can become a situation, if you let it. BE AWARE!!. 2) I’ve always carried myself with confidence, even when I might not feel completely confident. I try to never appear arrogant, I always make very brief eye contact and nod down, if I nod at all. Don’t appear weak, you only make yourself a potential target. And now you have a situation. 3) Weapons available: I am licensed to carry concealed and either carry lethal (M&P40C, M&P 40 Shield, or M&P 22LR), or less lethal (Byrna SD, doesn’t require a CCW, very accurate and very effective). It all depends on the venue and I don’t want to unnecessarily kill or maim anyone. I only want to make time to get away alive (myself and my wife) and as uninjured as possible. I also carry a fixed blade knife and a tactical pen. If I’m walking my dogs, I forego the gun and/or the Byrna and instead carry the knife, the tactical pen and a canister of Bear Spray (we’ve been attacked by pit bulls and the bear spray is really handy). I found your “elderly” video, part 1 of GREAT value, especially in validating my own plan!! We are each our own first line of defense. We have to think like something bad is about to happen, or become a statistic. Your “elderly” video, part 2 is GREAT as well!! I would only add that we HAVE to always be READY and WILLING to hurt someone BAD ENOUGH to afford us time to beat a hasty retreat and notify the authorities. If that means strike first, so be it. BUT, always use only the force dictated by the SITUATION. Thank you for your time, your knowledge and your videos… I’ll watch them all.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!!
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 3 ай бұрын
I carry the coldsteel city stick. Its the best ive found to carry. But with two bad knees i have many canes. Ive also taken kali/escrima for over 10years.
@tweedlebee-eo2kq
@tweedlebee-eo2kq 3 ай бұрын
thank you for sharing self-defense cane techniques in this video 411outdoors! no cane but this knowledge will definitely be applied to my hiking sticks if the situation ever arises! great video👍
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@viewtifuljay2531
@viewtifuljay2531 3 ай бұрын
I've been studying staff type martial arts for a couple years now. From jo to bo to Kali. Every single art puts significance on the basic jab or thrust strike. You're allowing 100% of your body force into a small diameter. Your fist may not have the power to break bones. However if you combine the strength of both your arms with the mass of the cane and condense it down to the size of a quarter, it can be devastating. I agree with your points in the video and really enjoyed it. Thanks again ✊
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure!🙂
@RickGrimes357
@RickGrimes357 3 ай бұрын
Happy Sunday my friend!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
You as well!
@user-xy6zz7mx8o
@user-xy6zz7mx8o Ай бұрын
Basic stuff is the best! Thanks for sharing this! I’m 70 and not moving as fast as I used to. I don’t use a cane yet but now I know how to use it properly.
@williamclinard2438
@williamclinard2438 3 ай бұрын
One that I haven't seen that I know is a practical and effective first or second strike cause it's usually unexpected. Is if the circumstances are correct strike to the outside ankle as you step outside of the attacker. A good hard strike there henders his ability to use both feet. That gives you a temporary and immediate advantage. Even if they see your cane most assailants would expect a strike to the groin, torso, head or arms. If you get a good solid blow to the outside of one of the ankles you've greatly improved your ability to defend or retreat.
@MC-dt2md
@MC-dt2md 3 ай бұрын
I whole heartedly agree. You must strike with torque and sincerity. The jab is a key move for both setup and distraction. Rarely do I use a cane one handed unless my attacker has already been injured. Then a one handed strike becomes the “put down “ strike. The only other reason for a one hand strike is when you’re attacking a lower target such as knees. The likelihood of a grab from a low strike is then minimized. OSU!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@stevo4535
@stevo4535 3 ай бұрын
The fact that you can bring them on a plane is an interesting use.
@klawockkidd3426
@klawockkidd3426 3 ай бұрын
I had to travel by air shortly after knee surgery and had no problems getting a cane through TSA. They did ex-ray it though.
@frankmcdonnell7377
@frankmcdonnell7377 3 ай бұрын
You can bring knitting needles too, which is bizarre given they've taken staple removers from my baggage in the past.
@lurch6404
@lurch6404 3 ай бұрын
@@klawockkidd3426 I use one of those lightweight aluminum canes, but with 12 .58 caliber Minié balls stacked at the tip end. I got worried when it went thru x-ray @ a county courthouse but passed with no problems several times. I wonder what TSA would say!
@eljefemaximo5420
@eljefemaximo5420 3 ай бұрын
I made my own walking stick out of a oak tree branch. It has a knob head and a copper pipe ferrule. I carry it when I walk my dog. It has come in handy a couple of times when a hostile dog has approached also makes the owner of said dog think about what they're going to do and say. I have almost got into a fist fight with another dog owner years ago.
@4449John
@4449John 3 ай бұрын
Not giving too many boring details, I now need and use a cane, got one from Cane Masters and it's great. My Escrima teacher has shown me methods like you show here. He also, since I NEED THE CANE, has taught me to use a wall, or even an opponent as support. Also to know when not to. I no longer go for long walks alone, and usually even go to store with another like minded and trained individual. Like Dirty Harry once said, "A Mans Gotta Know His Limitations." I do carry more than one item much of the time, mainly if traveling to areas that may have potentials for problems to arise. Never pew pews though, in the state where I live, using a such an item, for any reason, means time away from home; right or wrong. I know anatomy, both man and beast, and have tools to stop aggression at all times; you suggested a couple of my favorites here. Great bit of instruction today, thanks for addressing this subject so well; but IF YOU NEED a CANE, get some hands on from somebody who knows their stuff about self defense. Escrima is great for older folks as it involves sticks and translates into sharper things. Have a blessed day.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
You as well!
@alhumble8175
@alhumble8175 3 ай бұрын
Your videos are always well presented and useful. Thanks!
@A_Meek_lake_Dweller
@A_Meek_lake_Dweller 3 ай бұрын
In hand, gross motor skills, excellent instructions! Thank You!
@GenerationXFiles1969
@GenerationXFiles1969 3 ай бұрын
*Hapkido* perfected the use of the cane as self defense.
@Thoringald77
@Thoringald77 3 ай бұрын
I've found that cold steel makes some good self defense canes, made from fiberglass reinforced polypropylene, like their bats are made of
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I had become interested in walking stick self-defense in 2015 because I had recently moved to a home with great walking opportunities. Along those lines, I was also interested in canes as a kind of walking stick. Within a month or so, my health failed. In time, I found that my balance was reduced, and the cane became a helpful aid for balance. Until that time, I never realized how much energy I spent staying balanced as I walked. I can walk well enough without a cane or walking stick, but having one means using less energy to stay balanced. I still try to walk around the house without a cane. For short trips across a room, I like spending the energy to stay balanced. For anything longer, I like saving the energy. By 2017 or 2018, I was always using the cane in public. At first, I had ordered a cane and instructional video from Cane Masters when the Shuey family ran Cane Masters. I think the company is now owned by the Melton family. To be honest, I didn't think that the video that came from the Shuey family was all that useful. Around 2020, I started watching Matt Pasquinilli's videos about cane self-defense, and I think his approach is overall more useful for me. Even then, there are techniques that he likes that make me nervous. I generally walk with the hook-forward grip that you showed at the end. I've practiced raising the cane from that position and jabbing it into a heavy bag. When I'm not careful, my grip is sometimes too loose, and I jab hard enough that I drop the cane. I don't think that dropping the cane is as likely with the swinging strike to the groin. I'm just not as confident of hitting effectively every time. I absolutely don't believe in the strength of the downward strike that Cane Masters now recommends after that groin strike. I just don't think the grip in that strike is very strong. Sometimes, the shock of a groin strike doesn't hit the body for a moment or two. and a weak-handed overhand swing is likely to be deflected or caught. I almost always plan on making my first strike from that face-to-face position a jab to the midsection. Against a small enough attacker, I might be able to hit the breastbone and push the attacker backwards hard enough to gain significant distance. In that scenario, a smaller attacker might decide to stop attacking. If there are multiple attackers, that distance might let me deal with other attackers. Against a larger attacker or in a situation where I don't have time to hit the breastbone, I'm going for the solar plexus or the stomach. In both of those cases, I am worried about the attacker folding forward and falling into me. I agree with the importance of making that jab and getting the cane free as quickly as possible. I always train to grab the cane with both hands as I withdraw the jab. My second strike is almost always with the tip of the cane. I assume that the attacker won't be weakened very much by the jab. If I hit him with the crook end of the cane, he has more surface to grab. If my second strike is with the tip end of the cane, his grab would be at a much smaller bit of wood. He's likely to grab the cane tip which could slide off the end of the cane in his hand. If my second strike is at all effective, maybe that strike will start to weaken him. If he's still closing on me, my third strike is a two-handed shove. This technique is riskier because he can grab the cane more easily at a right angle. My hope is to hit him in the nose with the cane at a right angle to his nose. If he's still fighting hard, I'd probably want to go with a tip strike again. I would only plan to use the crook when I think the attacker has weakened enough for me to throw him. At that point, I want to swing the point of the crook to catch him behind the head and throw him to the ground. I prefer canes with rounded crook tips for practice because I don't want to dig into my heavy bag with a chisel-tip cane crook. I've never seen any KZfaqr demonstrate this technique, but I also practice hitting at an attacker coming at me from a three-quarters behind position. I stand with my heavy bag to my back about a foot or two away and just off a shoulder. I turn quickly and make strikes to the heavy bag. The strikes that I make depend on whether the "attack" is coming from my cane side or my empty-hand side. You mention in your talk that many people like to attack older people from behind. To me, one of the first steps in cane defense should be training people to respond to this kind of attack. Another technique that I need to practice is making the front jab while drawing a gun. If someone has gotten too close and is approaching rapidly, I'm not going to be able to draw a firearm in time to stop the attack. In traditional firearm training, this type of attack leads to the "twenty-one foot rule." For my draw, I'm guessing that I would need thirty feet. If someone is within that range and is going to reach me before I can draw, my plan would be a cane jab with my non-dominant hand while I draw a firearm with my dominant hand. The cane jab doesn't need to stop the attacker completely. The cane jab exists only to give me space while I draw my firearm. The same principle would apply to using pepper spray. As your video of a few days ago demonstrates, many stronger pepper sprays could have some rebound off the attacker. If one uses the cane to maintain a little distance, the pepper spray is less likely to rebound onto the defender. On top of that, the pepper spray could blur the attacker's vision enough to allow the defender to make a hard knee strike with the cane and leave the area before the attacker can continue. The advantage to the cane over a bat is that the light weight of the cane means that a weaker defender can move the cane more quickly. Reversing the momentum of a bat is very difficult. Once the swing has started, the swing is going to continue. Even a jab is much slower to reverse, and a bat's weight really doesn't make a jab that much more effective. A cane can't go through a blocking arm in the way that a bat can, but if the block is at an angle so that the bat doesn't break the arm, then the bat's momentum means that the one using the bat loses more control. Bats are brutal for beating on people, but self-defense is rarely about beating on someone.
@davidglazener7921
@davidglazener7921 3 ай бұрын
Well said! The straight jab to the solar plexus is referred to as the bayonet strike.
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU 3 ай бұрын
@@davidglazener7921 Thanks! I had always thought that the straight jab to the solar plexus was called "bayonet strike" only when I could get both hands on the cane. Often, I'm going to want to use only one hand on the cane as I try to draw a gun with my other hand or step back with the other foot. In any case, I really like that kind of bayonet strike as a first move.
@bertwoodshack6617
@bertwoodshack6617 3 ай бұрын
Your absolutely right. I don't like the swing of the groin strike if the cane gets grabbed you are losing it. Michael Janick emphasises roughly only three basic strikes . I tried Irish stick fighting but again two fancy and the attacker is likely to grab it not good if your over 50.
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU 3 ай бұрын
@@bertwoodshack6617 Thanks! I would love to try Irish stick fighting if I were healthier. If it's fancier, I'd just consider it an exercise and a cultural art and not a practical tool.
@bertwoodshack6617
@bertwoodshack6617 3 ай бұрын
I'm always worried about the "practice makes permanent aspect".one of the first moves in Irish stick is a back hand blow to the head with the knobbley bit it works but still it opens you up for a grab.I like janicks approach of aiming to smash the hands /ankles with doublehand swings and the straight thrust blow. I think these other moves are maybe backup for the main artillery but risky for an older/ disabled/ or smaller man.
@monteh842
@monteh842 3 ай бұрын
With proper training & tactics the cane is awsome for self defense.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Can be👍 balance and the overall physical condition of the one holding it would be my main concern
@davidquinonesquinones4077
@davidquinonesquinones4077 7 күн бұрын
My name is David q and I am a Cain user. I find Myself watching your video. Regarding the k bar Which, I purchased a number of years ago due to the scratching of the paint I Sanded Down the black off to the Aluminum surface and I added black bicycle grips to the crook handle. The cane has been my very favorite and This is the reason why you caught my attention. You handle, your ka-bar magnificently. What you are saying about instructors showing Certain martial art techniques, which not all cane users can actually do I for one am 65 years old born American and so proud of it it's not even funny, I am greatly appreciative of this video because not many instructors show ka-bar videos, I felt I wanted to Express myself and show my appreciation with this text. THANK YOU.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 6 күн бұрын
Thank you as well my friend!
@user-jd7jw4zv4r
@user-jd7jw4zv4r 3 ай бұрын
Billiard Strikes is what I call the jabs, you really need to be exact like when poking the white ball so it hits the proper angle Shepard hooks are the best in my opinion, however I use a straight stick sometimes that has a leather strap for the wrist. Yupers, no sense in getting fancy when a quick strike and a swing will get the job done 👍
@RichardThomas-lu6ej
@RichardThomas-lu6ej Ай бұрын
I cannot post it often enough. Your videos are excellent. The information in them is intelligent and very thought provoking. Just another excellent video. I am a proud subscriber.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Ай бұрын
Proud to have you as one. Thanks my friend🙂
@user-gc3yi3xq2k
@user-gc3yi3xq2k 3 ай бұрын
I’ve studied FMA for many years. In the past 5 years I’ve had multiple surgeries and joint replacements. Got my cane from cane masters . I would strongly recommend them and their canes. They can be a devastating weapon.
@Gerald-do9yg
@Gerald-do9yg 3 ай бұрын
I'm 69+ and have carried a cane for years for "social" purposes. I've heard "Don't hit me with that cane", "That's not how you carry a cane" and, Best of all, " Yeah, we know what it's for"! I have had security training, practice situational awareness religiously, and walk tall, straight and "ready for action"! Our old instructor taught us to run "what-if videos" in our minds to prepare for the "real thing"! Excellent video friend, thanks, God Bless; stay safe out there folks!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@LOVES-A1911
@LOVES-A1911 3 ай бұрын
Most of the time I walk with a cane and have practiced several strikes with it, I have incorporated shin and side of the knee strikes as well, I also carry a conceald firearm that I can get with either hand.
@NatureZone101
@NatureZone101 3 ай бұрын
Everything you show is still based on your ability to move freely and having 2 strong legs. Most people using canes use them because they need them for stability and they aren't going to be able to jump around like that. Even your basic jab is fine for you because you have stability, but an elderly person doing that and missing is going to end up on the ground from forward momentum. (I work with seniors). Maybe in another vid you can show them a few basic stick grab twists to try to get their cane back. A great place for solid hardwood canes would be looking up Brazos canes and walking sticks on Amazon (they have their own site as well). Much lighter and cost effective than a 130 tactical cane.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Well said. That’s why I believe using canes in self-defense is a longshot for those who are in a bad physical condition. I just feel like it’s something that could so easily be taken.
@ClydeRowing
@ClydeRowing 3 ай бұрын
I wondered if anyone would raise this. I work with older people and it seems obvious that someone with mobility poor enough to need a cane would find swinging or thrusting with any power destabilising enough to lose balance and fall. The consequences of a fall for an elderly person can be very serious, possibly more so than the original threat.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
@@ClydeRowing yep and in all honesty, being able to avoid is the best option because getting a physical altercation is almost always a losing battle after a certain age
@mikebryant8082
@mikebryant8082 3 ай бұрын
Great video brother! Ism recovering from my second hip replacement. This is greatinfo!!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@carausiuscaesar5672
@carausiuscaesar5672 3 ай бұрын
The walking cane-the olde Geezer’s best friend.
@waynehead7271
@waynehead7271 3 ай бұрын
So, you never damaged your knee at a young age. Good on ya' brother. Now about that last technique: If you're gonna tap the groin like that, don't even bother to "flip the stick." Just drive straight up with the top of the crux, as the opponent folds foreword. Tap the taint, bring the uppercut directly, while putting the second hand on the cane for another thrust. Using the hook of the crux to lock or destroy joints is much more technical, and my personal preference would not be to have a pointed/sharp tip on the crux. That's kinda like asking for an accidental lethality. I learned on something that was called a "piggin' stick" way back when I was barely an adult. Anyone who knows, also realizes that a piggin' stick has a wider crux and is made for herding pigs. Still makes a good walkin' stick though. 😉
@JoelHuncar
@JoelHuncar 3 ай бұрын
This is a great and honest video on the cane!
@milkyvanlife
@milkyvanlife 2 ай бұрын
I've just started making walking canes. My first cane is a utility stick made from local wood which has a folding saw attached, small knife l, compass and extra parracord. It's a useful walking aid and strong enough to hit someone with.
@airgunsanonymouslesslethal1904
@airgunsanonymouslesslethal1904 3 ай бұрын
[early comments] -THANK YOU! I agree, the fancy moves are dangerous. Agree, don't have to pick just one tool. [now to watch the rest]
@martybreeden6116
@martybreeden6116 3 ай бұрын
I also put a lanyard on EVERY CANE I have and strap it around my wrist to hopefully prevent it escaping my grip. And to your point, which is ALWAYS GREAT BTW....It's wise to carry a blade and pepper spray also!😊
@sheilagordon3115
@sheilagordon3115 3 ай бұрын
You covered a lot of points and very well . Any self defense tool has to fit the defender . If a person has a balance issue they may want to choose something else that works better for them . I call it plan A , B , C . If A doesn't work go to your other tools . Have two other weapons you can use also . A very sharp blade could be added to lower end of cane on both sides so if the attacker thinks he will just take it away from his victim . I'm sorry for going on and on . Self defense for me is a very passionate subject. I believe that children , women, weaker and older people have the right to protect themselves . Because predators go after them . Thank you sir by Will
@stephen8433
@stephen8433 3 ай бұрын
God bless you in your self defense methods. Be careful with the head strikes.
@sheilagordon3115
@sheilagordon3115 3 ай бұрын
@@stephen8433 thank you
@RUDEMASTER
@RUDEMASTER 3 ай бұрын
I've just watched this video and you have a valid point. Especially some of the comments here that ive read.... They all have valid points but I guess. What it all comes down to is that every weapon that you can carry has its pros and its cons the best weapon. I guess is situational awareness like you explained not to allow them to sneak up on you and not to be on your phone I Myself am never on my phone when I'm walking. I'm only on my phone when I'm in my car or at home I do not keep my head in my apps.. I do use a Cane because I have a back and hip problem I'm always probably gonna have to use a Cane im facing a hip replacement on July the 10th.. I carry other little weapons. Because I cannot carry a gun because of the laws here.in calif They make it really hard for me to get a concealed carry permit..i just recently purchased a byrna ep ....i would like to know your opinion on carrying a byrna?..i did purchase a cane from cane masters they are pretty strong solid good crafrtmanship made out of hickory...i follow matt pasquinilli n can power which i purchased a cane from too..... But I guess what it all comes down to none of these weapons will work if a person pulls out a gun on you. Unless maybe the Byrna would make a difference? It's non-lethal, but it can buy you some time. Please let me know what your thoughts are on the Byrna. Or anything else on what I said here.
@andysanford3272
@andysanford3272 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your channel. I have spent 25 years of my life in the military, in law enforcement and working in private and public security. I have responded to hundreds of assault cases. I have been in my share of fights, won many, lost a few. Self-defense and personal security videos on KZfaq are usually un realistic, or Rambo focused. The fact is that the streets are violent and winning is not always possible. Having a gun, knife or cane is not necessarily going to protect you. Bad guys know they can't win a fair fight, so they sucker punch and attack from behind . You are honest about the realities of street fights and the self-defense community needs a heaping helping of honesty about reality.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@tx.tactical3165
@tx.tactical3165 3 ай бұрын
Very informative, thanks for posting...
@DeanFromTexas
@DeanFromTexas 3 ай бұрын
Excellent, practical video. Great job!
@joannebutzerin6448
@joannebutzerin6448 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your advice about body position. I know I'm weak, so it's important to have all the stability I can muster.
@matoko123
@matoko123 3 ай бұрын
The cane seems the prefect way to carry an offensive weapon in a country such as the UK where you can't carry anything including pepper spray. 'But officer, I've got a sprained leg and need it to walk.' ;)
@inregionecaecorum
@inregionecaecorum 3 ай бұрын
Basically there are three things you can do with a cane, poke, whack and block and that is it. It is a bit different with an elbow crutch as you are limited because of the way you hold it but you can still keep an oponent at a distance. It is not so easy to grab as it looks unless of course you have trained in it but I am guessing most street thugs haven't, you are probably too busy trying to dodge it, than grab it and even then that is not the end of the world as once you are trying to keep hold of it you have left yourself vulnerable.
@lovebitcoin813
@lovebitcoin813 3 ай бұрын
Got a SD umbrella it is almost unbreakable and has the distraction ability of pressing the button it opens hard and fast Giving me a vital second to grab my strobe torch etc and i did Eskrima as a kid so that helps 😅👍
@donavandean1078
@donavandean1078 3 ай бұрын
Great advice. I'm one of the people that need to know these things. Thank you!
@randywild6900
@randywild6900 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I learned alot.
@carldaugherty8981
@carldaugherty8981 3 ай бұрын
I'm 85 and I don't need a cane yet, however I do hike in the woods a lot with my dogs and I carry a walking stick (about 44" of Ironwood). It's like having a third leg getting over rocks, gullies and stumps. But I don't go anywhere without my 'Nine!' And a folder and a fixed blade. I always thought the best place to attack/defend with a stick was to strike the legs.
@bertwoodshack6617
@bertwoodshack6617 3 ай бұрын
Same here assuming you have time it's hard for the attacker to grab a low blow which may shatter the ankle and allow you to escape.
@fookingsog
@fookingsog Ай бұрын
Best cane you can git without chasin' after (lookin' for!) is the hickory stockyard cane!!! Super durable and resilient, they usually have an octagonal cross section that is easy to grip and sense in your hands!!! An addition I made to mine was to 3D print out of TPU a foot/bumper that looks like two truncated cones (minus the tips of the cones) that look similar to this "--------?" shown laying down. This gives a bit of a bulbous striking end as well as a grip surface if actuating the opposite hook end. Element of surprise is the advantage.
@user-bl4hb1bq9t
@user-bl4hb1bq9t 3 ай бұрын
I asked about a cane. I was thinking walking stick like a quarter staff. Also I'm 63, I don't need a cane but I like to be sneeky. I'm of an age that a cane wouldn't look out of place, but I hope I could wield a cane with authority. Others might also. I remember Kwai Chain Cain with a quarter staff & his modern compadre, Morgan on the Walking Dead. So it would go cane or quarter staff, OC spary, last pistol.
@station7thedoor
@station7thedoor 3 ай бұрын
Good info. I am flying to Tokyo this week, and am taking a cane, yes to help with my back problems, but also because it is one of the very few things you can carry that can be used for defense, both due to flight regs, and due to Japanese law. I chose a basic telescoping metal cane from Walmart. It is clearly designed with medical intent (harder for it to be labeled a weapon), but while collapsed, its about baton length, with the added strength of two metal tubes inside each other.
@JamesKing2understandinglife
@JamesKing2understandinglife 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I am old. Your advice to be aware is really hard for me when I am thinking of other things. Your advice to be quick and to pull back after the cane jab, is what I will practice. I carry defense spray. I learned it should be deployed as fast as possible with NO WARNING MOVEMENTS.
@ns987
@ns987 3 ай бұрын
The cane was in the gentleman's wardrobe, sometime in the early 20th century. By the 30s of the 20th century, it had completely gone out of fashion. Today, only a person with problematic health, an elderly person will not look strange in the city with a cane. Although it is quite adequate to walk outside the city with a cane today, the fashion factor makes it more difficult to carry a cane. This reduces the likelihood of using a cane for self-defense. After all, people use for self-defense what is most often at hand. A selfie stick, I think, is more relevant for self-defense. I don't know why all sorts of companies like cold steel haven't made a "tactical selfie stick" yet
@mortykatz8818
@mortykatz8818 17 күн бұрын
Thanks I’ve been looking for this
@jimmymorrison8314
@jimmymorrison8314 3 ай бұрын
Very enlightening, Thank you.
@user-fp1eh7ze1e
@user-fp1eh7ze1e 3 ай бұрын
Excellent content just had total knee replacement & I feel vulnerable but now I have some skilz , thank you !
@johnnyyukon7887
@johnnyyukon7887 3 ай бұрын
I'm going to have to send you a bucket of nails before you run out. You always hit the nail on the head! Great video as usual. Thanks!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@andrewsilverstein6186
@andrewsilverstein6186 3 ай бұрын
Excellent, especially the mindset section. I'm only concerned with the "jab and escape" because the reality of the cane is for folks with limited agility or reduced mobility...thanks
@oldcop18
@oldcop18 3 ай бұрын
I’m in my late 70s and have needed a cane to get around for years. While I appreciate the video these techniques all require good balance and that’s where I’ll have a problem. That said I’ll share this w/some of my friends b/c there’s a lot to learn here.
@thomas1699
@thomas1699 3 ай бұрын
Good presentation. Thoughtfully, sensibly, considered. Not fancy but functional, makes good sence to me.
@lugo_9969
@lugo_9969 3 ай бұрын
Excellent advice
@tymesho
@tymesho 3 ай бұрын
Techniques for RETRACTION SPEED is paramount when using ANY elongated weapon. Second, FOOT PLACEMENT is crucial when using a cane for defense, particularly for those with balance issues. Knowing your PERSONAL CAPABILITIES, and PRACTICE are extremely important in order to gage your RESPONCE to circumstance. Also, KNOW THIS: Just because you have balance issue's, there are MANY ways to protect yourself! I'm self-taught and have used a cane for almost 7 years now, the examples in this video are excellent, and worth every minute learning the different techniques that can save your life!
@silentwalk1768
@silentwalk1768 23 күн бұрын
Awesome demonstration I walk with a cane and know how to use it I securely fastened a nylon strap which gives the attacker the inability to remove it as the strap is around my hand 👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼💪🏼
@user-lh2qi5gx8v
@user-lh2qi5gx8v 3 ай бұрын
Getting older sucks, loss of speed, strength, agility. In that situation the term K.I.S.S. comes into play, and should be a rule to live by. The term K.I.S.S. stands for Keep It Simple Stupid. I have had arnis training and also other styles. The jabs Marines would see as bayoneting, those that hat done Arma would see it as half swording, these techniques apply to great effect. I have recently lost my right leg 7 inches below my knee so I have become extremely conscious of my disabilities in movement, balance, and age. The simple techniques shown was a good review appreciated immensely. Good advice and timely Thank-you.
@mikemcmanus116
@mikemcmanus116 20 күн бұрын
All your points are very appropriate. I take cane self defense training from Master Gary Hernandez which he refers to as "Realistic Defensive Tactics". Hopefully you have seen some of his free YT training videos. I take Zoom classes from him and I attend his Wednesday night classes from time to time. His instruction is very basic, practical and realistic. I took classes from another Grand Master cane instructor and found it very interesting but not nearly as practical. Cane Masters makes some excellent self defense canes. Their canes are expensive but of excellent quality and well thought out in design. I don't see the cane and a firearm as a mutually exclusive option. As you pointed out I can take my cane anywhere-no prohibited places. When concealed carrying a handgun, a cane may keep me from having to use a firearm, or it may give me time to use a firearm, as appropriate. The gym I go to allows me to workout on the heavy bags and kick bags in a dedicated boxing/martial arts room at the gym. Gary Hernandez has various degrees of black belts in several traditional martial art styles, competed in kick boxing and worked as a bouncer. He's been in real fights and has real experience. I think you would concur with his concepts of self defense with a cane. BTW I'm old and "rode hard and put up wet" but younger, fit guys and gals cane benefit carrying a cane. You don't have to limp or have a handicap sticker in your car.
@RichardThomas-lu6ej
@RichardThomas-lu6ej 2 ай бұрын
Another great video. Thank you.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@powerplay4real174
@powerplay4real174 3 ай бұрын
You made some very good and important points that are very important and true. I own a few cane and I like that Ka-Bar TDI cane. 😊
@jeffhanson2621
@jeffhanson2621 3 ай бұрын
Great info
@Hodge3425
@Hodge3425 3 ай бұрын
I carry a cane and I have to use it, I found this video quite helpful and nobody is looking for a fight! This gentleman is simply explaining to us how to use it in a situation that we are thrust into unwillingly! Having some knowledge is better than no knowledge! Sometimes a cane is the only weapon I have on me.
@jimpurcell
@jimpurcell 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate your thoughts, thanks!
@GhostCat-zc2gj
@GhostCat-zc2gj 3 ай бұрын
Great video,
@aslannette
@aslannette 3 ай бұрын
Your video popped up as a suggestion after I watched a few Physical Therapy videos about increasing my balance. You are a natural teacher. Thank you for your thought, demonstration, and keeping it simple. Because of your attributes I subscribed. Oh, one more thing, THANK YOU for not speaking a mile a minute! *smile*
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Very happy to serve🙂
@jorgefernandez6407
@jorgefernandez6407 3 ай бұрын
Very informative, excellent video! I happen to have and take a Cold Steel axe head cane everytime we walk our dog. In ten years, I've only needed it once against a neighbor's aggressive dog! I was very glad I had that cane!!!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Yea sir! Will keep those things at bay
@VanLifeWolf
@VanLifeWolf 3 ай бұрын
awesome, thank you
@Crazylittlehobbit
@Crazylittlehobbit 2 ай бұрын
being phyically impared I've used a cane most of my life, and I've had to use a cane for defence before. One thing I've learned is most people who attack a person with a cane tend to think they are weak. I've used this as an advantage. I've used your jabing techenic before and it is very affective, especially if you can surprise them with it.
@coptertim
@coptertim 28 күн бұрын
At 70 I'm still in good shape and I walk several miles a day with a Blackthorn walking stick, however, my best defense is being aware of my surroundings. Use your instincts! If it doesn't feel right, trust your judgement and get away fast. Don't be that person that says "I knew I should have left".
@canslono1084
@canslono1084 3 ай бұрын
Excellent educational, real life, useful video from a cane user
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@inyourdefense0
@inyourdefense0 3 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@ssrsglh05
@ssrsglh05 2 ай бұрын
Took a cane fighting seminar in the 80s at Dan Inosantos gym in Marina del Ray. It was run by Salem Assli(rip). Salem was a professor in savate They had a whole system of cane fighting. There was a video floating around about it at the time. It’s probably around somewhere.
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 3 ай бұрын
1. Turning sideways to a danger not only makes you a smaller target, it sets you up to run away without pivoting 180 degrees. 2. You can use objects to position yourself better. Out riding a bike, I had someone who appeared dubious insisting I stop. I did stop, but for the first and only time in my life I came off my bike on the right side, putting it between myself and him rather than having it block me. Nothing happened, but doing that may have deterred any bad deeds he had planned. You could do the same with a car or a shopping cart. 3. There's value in elaborate situational awareness. When a job put me walking to a bus stop through a dubious neighborhood after midnight I did that. I'd suddenly spin around surveying my surroundings over 360 degrees. That let anyone who might be hiding in the shadows know that slipping up on me would be impossible. Deterrence is the best defense.
@commonsense2497
@commonsense2497 2 ай бұрын
I am over 70. Use a light weight cane, make noise, stay on the defense, learn 1 or 2 moves really well. KISS. Very honest video.
@007twm
@007twm 3 ай бұрын
I rely on a cane to walk. I'm a senior citizen so I won't try to hit an assailant with my cane. I'll use it for support and use my CCW to take care of business if needed. Thank you for another informative video.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Very welcome!
@thirdactwarrior317
@thirdactwarrior317 3 ай бұрын
Great video as usual! We have a guy the next county over from mine who is a retired Marine Master Sergeant. He teaches cane self defense to veterans pro bono. He has a bunch of cane striking targets of his own design, each target for different moves. I took his class once and got a lot our of it. A favorite strike of mine is to start with the tip jab to the solar plexus or the upswing to the groin, both of which you demonstrated. The opponent's arms should go down in the direction of the impact. Then follow up by grabbing the cane with two hands, about a foot from each end, so that the cane is parallel to your shoulders and close to your chest. Then thrust forward with your body and arms and "clothesline" him in the throat or under the nose. If he grabs the cane, the wide two-handed grab you have makes it easy to twist it away. You just turn it like a steering wheel and you have all the leverage. When he lets go, he will be out of position and open for other strikes.
@101evo
@101evo 3 ай бұрын
Maybe I have missed one of your past videos but I would like to see you do one on the cane vs collapsible button vs the cable button.
@larrystultz7545
@larrystultz7545 3 ай бұрын
Bless you brother thanks
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Thank you too
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