Which are you going with?

I don't think you mentioned that the z5 has in-body stabilization. May not justify all the price difference, but definitely some.

I just switched from a Nikon z6 to a Sony a7riv. The auto focus on the Nikon really isn’t as bad as Jared makes it out to be. I think their tracking works better in some situations and I actually really like holding the front button to activate tracking. But For eye af Sony is way better

Hard to beat the intuitive nature of the Nikon. The buttons make sense. The menus make sense and are easy to navigate. I’ll stick to Nikon’s ecosystem for birding and landscapes and my Fujifilm X100V for travel shots.

For charging the RP, you don't need the canon usb charger. Just get one that uses Power Delivery/45W.

LOVE THE "We'll do it live" reference!!! Thanks yet again for another great informative video!!!

Long-term Canon photographer. Almost two years ago, I moved from the 70D to the RP (over the 6DII) because I wanted to go full frame and I wanted access to the lovely RF glass. I assumed that I would move in a couple of years to a subsequent Canon mirrorless body - maybe that will be the R5. I have been very happy with the RP and the images I have made.

I really don't know how this man manages to be so entertaining throughout 30min of video, great job !

I found this so helpful. Thanks, Fro!

Thank you for making this... I really wanted to start getting into photography, and was looking for a camera to purchase. This helped.

If you want the feeling of cheaply made plastic in your hands, get the RP. The Z5 on the other hand feels amazing in the hand. It’s just a way better built camera.

IBIS and wheater sealed body. Nikon offers a lot more for your money

Excellent round up... As usual! 👍

Love the detailed review and the humor. I enjoyed watching even after I already made the decision. Thanks for sharing.

What a treat, thanks Jared!

Z5 has much better sensor with higher DR and cleaner shadows at any ISO

The RP has Eye AF in continuous per their website: "Eye AF works with the Canon EOS RP in One Shot AF mode, Servo AF mode and Movie Servo AF ensuring both static and moving subjects are captured with their eyes clearly in focus." This has been my experience on my RP as well.

Bought the RP two weeks ago. Then the Z5 went on sale for a grand... total honesty, I'm glad I got the RP. The Z5 is a great camera but just as you suggested I wanted to stick with the Canon ecosystem of gear so based on that I made the right choice, but this video definitely made me think more about which way to go from here on out.

Video length is perfect great information.

Just for the record, you can get 4FPS tracking with continuous AF with the RP, and it works just fine (I have one, to be clear). I don't know where Jared is getting "speed priority" and "tracking priority", neither of which is listed in Canon's RP user manual (termed generally as "High Speed" and "Low Speed"). As with any camera, they only list the top end of the range; fps is always and will continue to be affected by other factors such as battery life, flicker mode, lens aperture, etc. So you're not likely to top out at 4FPS for that long, but you CAN get it.

I bought Z50 last year with the FTZ adapter with my other nikon lenses and for know am pretty happy with the results I am getting off all my equiment

Bought the Z5 today!

Really like the fact your videos are thorough, provide critical context, and earnestly state how the gear world looks from where you stand. I also appreciate the fact you make it clear the perspective you speak from. I have a Z6, am pleased with it so far, and believe I have a lot to learn before I get the best it has to offer. I am thankful for the remarkable advances Sony and Canon have brought to market and believe it will ultimately benefit most customers. My camera has always been good, but (with firmware updates) is a much better camera now than when I purchased it 15 months ago. I am hopeful the Z6II, Z7II, and newer bodies Nikon introduces get updates that put them on par with Sony and Canon in the eye focus and movement tracking area. It feels like they are getting close.

Thanks again! Fantastic comparison - just bought the Z5 today with the 24-50mm. Gonna use the FTZ adapter with it so I can still use my F-mount 50mm f/1.8.

awesome video! thanks for helping me make my decision.

Great video. Thanks. I have the RP and it's OK. Its not great, but stretches me at my level.

I just picked up a D7500 not long ago so I won't be looking for a replacement soon. I was considering going to Sony, but I'm too invested in Nikon glass. Nice to see the Z5 got through this comparison without too many negative points because I'm probably staying with Nikon. I think even next year the Z5 will be a good buy. Maybe I'll be ready and the price will drop a little too. Thanks Jared!

Correction on RP about charging via USB-C : You don't need the ridiculously expensive Canon USB-C chargers for the RP although Canon does not make it clear. You need to have a "Power Delivery" (PD) port with a USB-C to USB-C cable. You can then use any battery pack (such as Anker makes), wall plug adapter, or PC/MAC with a PD USB-C output with at least 18 watts to charge the RP battery in the camera. The RP does have to be off in order to charge which is a disadvantage.

Thank you.. Great info

Jared, this video is amazing !!!

I was waiting for this

I have an rp and love it as an amateur that is getting back into photography after many years. I fathered with a T7i last xmas time, then upgraded to rp mid summer when a good deal came along. I have shot some of my favorite photos since buying it. I have no regrets.

I have an 80d that was a gift 4.5 years ago. Last year I bought a d610 to get into full frame. I think I am gonna go back to canon. Thanks for the in depth video Fro!

I have a Z 50 and a few F- and a Z-mount Nikon lenses, so the decision is an easy one. A Z 5 as my main shooting body and the baby Z 50 as a backup. Thanks for the comparison video.

Z 5 and the images are great. Very pleased. Nice Video.

I have a Z5 and I really like it. Love having 2 cards, love the files that come from the Nikon stuff. I wish I had some of the Z glass, but that’s more on me really.

I am not a nikon fanboy, and I own a r6, but I don't agree when you bring the "system" argument in this comparison saying that the r5-r6 is better then z6ii-z7ii. First when we talk about system I would thinks its more about the lenses then the bodies. And second, more advanced bodies are released almost early, and we dont't know to much about the pro mirrorless bodies. So their is not a clearer winner yet. It's not sure canon's ecosystem is better yet, but you also say it like its a determined fact, again, just because the r5 and r6 are the better bodies at this moment ... :) the video is great, but I was a bit bothered by that.

you didn't mention that the z5 has ibis. I think that is a massive feature you omitted from this comparison...

Both are great choose after the one that feels the best in the hand and have the lens Lineup (and roadmap) that fits your need and Wallet the best

I have the Nikon Z5 and SHE IS A MONSTER! LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had to make this choice a couple of months ago and ended up going for the Z5. To me the Z5 felt better in the hand (probably because I've shot Nikon in the past so it was familiar) and I felt it was a better overall camera than the RP. Also I did consider the system I was buying in to. I ended up looking at Nikon, Sony, Canon and Fuji and in the end it came down to Canon or Nikon. Canon's higher end bodies are better than Nikon's bodies at the moment. But, I wasn't in a position to buy a higher end R5 or R6 so I had to buy the better body for my current use case and budget that exists today, this was the Z5. Having seen the improvements made with the Z6ii and Z7ii I am confident that Nikon will catch up to the competition in the areas they may lag slightly behind currently (the AF isn't really that bad). We also haven't seen what Nikon's pro bodies will be like yet, although it's rumoured we could see them around the Tokyo Olympics (if we get an Olympics)... I'm really looking forward to seeing the potential Z8 and/or Z9. For me the Z5 offered a better and more enjoyable experience that I could use now, as opposed to potentially not enjoying the RP and regretting the purchase. I don't think you can really go wrong buying in to either ecosystem to be honest. Both companies will make improvements and changes in the future and both have solid lens offerings. So make you decision based on the camera that best suits your budget and use case today, instead of worrying about what camera you may buy tomorrow based on today's specs... Both ecosystems are great.

Z5 is the better camera, end of story Better sensor Better build quality/weather sealing Better Evf Ibis Dual card slots

Thanks for the postal! The funny think, I retire from IBM and you sent me picture of a IBM typewriter ball head. That was funny.

There's nothing wrong with investing in Z mount from a future perspective. I most recently bought a Z6II and it's honestly one of the most fun cameras I have ever shot with and this is coming from somebody invested in Nikon, Fuji and Sony. I like shooting with it more than I like shooting on my A7RIII. The subject tracking and eye AF is also very good on that camera, AF in general. It always kills me when I see that hemp field clip and instead of just changing the AF mode to something like either dynamic or pinpoint and continue shooting he just complains about the camera.

i Personally recomend DSLR for beginners who actually want to learn photography so they can understand exposure without relying on EVF impo

"Z5 got a check mark but bla bla bla.." don't care! Z5 eat the rp.

Viltrox made the first AF lens for z system. Its an 85mm 1.8 🙏🙏. Im a nikon shooter but canon is doing big moves with their R5

After removing the jokes and in-video ads, (I get it, everyone needs to eat,) besides showing that you still don't have a grasp on the Z system AF modes, (talking about using the joystick alone to move AF points,) you have maybe 15 minutes of just basically comparing the spec sheets of each camera. Regarding the sensors, rather than spout ISO and megapixels, talk about actual image quality. Look at noise performance, dynamic range, tonality of not only the RAW file, but the JPGs. Many entry level photographers will use JPG, (I know, that one stings me too). If you look where the rubber meets the road, examine the flexibility of each cameras RAW files. The RP has a good tolerance for being overexposed, but less so for underexposure and shadow detail. The Z5 is pretty flexible for overexposure, but is in another league for being underexposed or working with shadow details because the sensor is nearly ISO invariant like the D750 you mentioned. This holds true for stills across the comparable systems, not just these cameras. (Even Pentax wipes the floor with the best Canon sensor for working with shadow detail. It's a huge weakness in their system, albeit one of very few.) A camera with a near ISO invariant sensor is an extremely useful thing to have. Think of it like Eye AF. Do you need it? No, of course not. But once you have it, it's a great tool. You also never mentioned the Z5 IBIS. How was this skipped Mr. Knows Photo? That's a HUGE, very useful feature and likely responsible for much of the price difference. You need to spend over $1,000 more than a Z5 to get a Canon body with IBIS. I think you would have been much better served focusing on the actual cameras you've decided to talk about rather then just using it as an excuse to tell everyone (again) that you switched to the R5 for video and to look at their overall system is the "bigliest". Not everyone is going to upgrade to a fully pro lens lineup and high-end camera body. Lastly, you speak about not jumping from one system to another when a new camera is released, but you're literally in a community of content creators that do exactly that in order to stay relevant. How many videos from you and your peers are titled something like "Time to Switch?" Stuff like this further programs consumers to do exactly that. So, what's the real message? Overall this seems like the most disjointed camera comparison video from you to date. I hope you take these comments constructively as I do legit enjoy your light heartedness, humor and well practiced delivery.

Great fro!

I already own the Canon, I have never even considered the Nikon, but it seems nice

I had the original 6D and it was horrible when boosting the shadows (very common in landscapes and architecture), and someone should have been fired for releasing the 6D2 sensor. The fact that it still exists all these years later in a new body is an insult. Much better sensor in the Nikon.

Ok,so Nikon took back the Z6’s you were using(anyone’s guess to why) and Canon gave you a long term loan. Time to please the patreon.

I moved to RP but its for a short time until I move to the R6, I have had a few talk with different photographers, such as amateur and pros, most of them are more leaning to R6 due to the processors and quality for portraits even though the R5 has more mega pixels, the 20MP is more efficient and brings out more, we even put it to a semi test with image quality and at least 80% of us chose the R6 quality and models that talked to us as well, I tested both and loved the R6 more. They both are titans, but oh well.

Got my Z5 with 40mm F2 lens. IBIS(not mentioned in video) , dual card slots(super important), better camera feel and super quick adjustments, better low light photos, better battery life and top of all that much better affordable lenses. Now that they have improved AF through firmware updates, I have absolutely no issues with AF even in fast action videos. Z5 is clearly best mirrorless full frame camera at sub 1k USD price tag. This camera also makes you feel like you use professional body. If you are not shooting wildlife then Z5 is a go to.

You can charge the Canon RP with any power pack which have PD (Power Delivery)

Hi Jared, I own Canon RP for one year and use it often and Imam pretty sure that it has eye-af in continuous shooting mode and not only in one-shot.

I used to binge your show years ago.. I had to be in high school. So 10 years ago. Maybe longer. Jared Polin, FRO KNOWS PHOTO. Taught me to shoot RAW. I quit photography but I’m back, with film. But had to see what you were up to over here.

I agree with your slight sliver on the lens selection to cannon. I will add however that the zmount beats the rf technically. the wider ring means that future lenses can be be made faster and lighter since they can skip a lot of the extra glass needed to bend light from a large lens to the sensor area. it also means wide angle lenses can have a higher max sharpness. Of course, that also depends on the lenses taking advantage of the strengths of the z mount. Time will tell how the ecosystem evolves. Being technically superior doesn't always guarantee success.. Look at Betamax

Hey Jared. Can you please do a zoom in while tracking a subject. I know the Sony system could not even get 1 focused photo when a test was done awhile back.. But I have not seen someone do a comparison on the Nikon, Sony and Canon. While zooming in or out while tracking a subject. That will be great to see.

Awesome!

Canon RP body is $899 now; and newly released Canon RF 50mm 1.8 lens is $199. Might be a good bike trip/hiking set-up. I was a hobby shooter with a darkroom decades ago and I'm ok with a 50mm lens. Retired and looking into something better than my iPhone.

LOL at nice tribute to Missy Elliott. Another great comp review. Thanks Jared!

thanks for the squarespace discount

sorry Jared, but you can use any charger to charge Canon RP only it needs to be with PD power delivery. Which is quite common nowadays.

I believe Viltrox already made an 85mm for the Z mount

I recently purchased the Nikon Z6ii. I used to use a Sony A6600. Honestly speaking, I returned the Z6ii in about a week. I tried to use it, but the Nikon Autofocus is nowhere near as good. I was missing focus on 3-4 shots out of every 11-14 photo burst (eye af). I never used to miss even one with the Sony. I have now purchased the A7C with a Tamron 28-75 2.8 and couldn't be happier.

The Canon RP does have eye af in servo mode.

Hy Jared, I shoot Sony for 2 years, if you are talking only about autofocus, Sony is very good, but I just switch back to the Nikon Z system by purchasing the Z6ii. The Sony wasn't good enough for my necessity, I like more the color science and the flexibility of Nikon RAW files that's more important for my and for my way of shooting than all the technological stuff that Sony offers. You were a Nikon shooter and a great photographer I used to follow you but the new Jared I don't like it so much. You once said, the camera is just a tool to express the photographer's ability and skills (something like that). You inspired me to buy my first D3100. Now a days I don't see you anymore like a photographer but more likely a camera dealer. Sorry for now, maybe in the future things will change. All of luck.

I have the RP and use continuous EYE AF all the time.

Thanks Again Jared

1st, thank you for your insight! I may have missed it but what about the Z mount adapter to use the expensive glass I recently got per your recommendation. Should I stick with the Nikon system?

Sony a7m3 used, perfect eye AF with lastest frimware, and ton of cheap good lenses available! =)

Man this guy is the best got me laughing so hard I don’t have to be looking for a camera just watch his video and make your day

La Z5 ya es un clásico. Y ahora con actualización de firmware suma en video un veloz enfoque al ojo. Con los lentes nativos se marca la diferencia, por ejemplo con el 50mm f/1.8 S

The RP and R cameras in general are great and worth the money

I would just point out though that you can get a used z6 in good condition for ~1200 which is better than either of them for my money

The Z5 is the clear winner. It's better than the RP in every way except for the lack of screen articulation...and you can always work around that with a monitor.

R2D2 .... that's Gold! Jared! Gold🤣🤣🤣

The Z5 couldn’t track their eyes at the hemp farm because they were just too red 😂🚬

Legit a choice ive been debating, well kinda, wasn’t thinking about the RP

Never regret went to Z5. Its very beautiful little beast, combine with one of sharpest 50mm lens on the world.

The RP supports UHS-II cards - in which case you really will never outrun the buffer!

Interesting comparison. My question is what is better for basic fire scene documentation? Everything I deal with is just a burned black room. I use a Nikon D7000 and can usually get the image I want, but it weighs a ton and I do alot of shoot and move. Looking for a lighter durable camera that can get the detail and depth of field from a pile of burned fire debris without switching constantly to multiple different lenses. Any edge on one of these cameras, or others to consider for this type of work?

I was about buying the Z5, i have compared with Canon RP, yes Z5 was better than RP to my calculation, but....once the price was about higher than what i dreamed...since i was expecting 1000-1200 USD...then i decided of buying Z50 instead, with FTZ, Nikkor 35mm DX 1.8 and Viltrox EFZ Adapter and Canon 24mm f2.8 ...and i am happy...more access to F lenses and EFS lenses...

Jared... New photographers are lucky... more systems and options... Sony A7IV - Canon RP (or Canon R) - Panasonic S5 - Nikon Z5 - Leica SL-2

Jared what about nikon z50 vs canon m6ii vs sony a6400 vs fujifilm xt30

I wonder what you would look like without the fro bro? A clean cut Jared? That would be interesting!

Jared do a video about nikon z50 vs nikon z5 vs z6 vs z7

Iii tink i want to buy a Canon EOS R6 Real World Review you have been teasing us for a while now with clips here and there that had the "eos R6 real world review" tag on them ;-)

I have a canon RP. It’s not as slow as Jared makes it seem. Yes it’s definitely not the fastest by any means but it still ok for beginners or amateurs. I use it professionally, it does great in low light. I don’t shoot video so I really didn’t care about the specs.

Did you change your video camera? Colors and contrast seem a lot duller.

i dont want to be a fanboy but the nikon is way better in dynamic range, just for that, for me i would go nikon

I love my RP but I do notice the dynamic range issues. I kind of want to get an R but I feel like they will either release an R II or RP II this year so I am going to wait. An R II with IBIS would be amazing.

I may be wrong, and it may only be 1 card slot, but the RP is also UHS-II I probably would’ve gotten the z5 if it came out last summer. But I picked the RP since it was actually around hahahaha. Honestly though Nikon did a great job with it.

Hey Jared you didn't do the sniff test. I need it to make my decision. 😜

Going to go Z5 I think. I've had my D7000 for 10 years and hopefully when I upgrade the Z5 in 10 years their AF system will be caught up 😂

i got an RP to get my feet wet with mirrorless. I have since got an R6. i still use my RP for personal shooting because its lighter and smaller and I'd rather keep my valuable gear at home, versus toting everywhere. It's still a nice camera and has some good uses. The new lenses are expensive for both systems honestly. Nikon as a business is shakier right now. I think I'd get into the Canon system over Nikon if I was a newbie. Otherwise, I'd stick to which brand I'm already in, whether that's Canon or Nikon.

Hello! newbie here, planning to get my first camera. my target field is Portraits/wedding/street photography, a bit of action/sports like motocross / rodeo games. Im opted to get z5, since i can save a lot for the body then buy 2-3pcs Z lens, but my only concern in realworld use is the 4.5fps of Z5, is it capable of getting good photos of action?Choosing between z5 or z6II.. hope you can share some insights. Thanks!

Hi there Jared. I’m looking to buy a new camera. My current camera is a D3300 which I use for school. While that camera it’s not great, it does get the job done. But now that my skills have improved drastically I want to upgrade and the choices I’m interested are the D500 and Z5. I know both cameras are drastically different but they both have their advantages. I like the D500 because: The built quality which means it’ll last a long time. Focusing system Already own a good amount of F mount DX lenses Longer battery life And the fact that I can purchase other F mount lenses(either cropped or full frame) for a lot less than Z mount lenses. D500 disadvantages Older sensor and cropped sensor(though the crop factor is not a deal breaker) I like the Z5 because: More focus points Full frame Newer sensor Slightly higher image quality You can see what the exposure will be like before you can take the picture. Disadvantages of the Z5 Less lenses More expensive lenses Shorter battery life Slower continuous shooting Which of the two do you recommend ? I plan to use the camera to do a little bit of everything from personal portraits, wedding and birthday parties, to shooting events like concerts and sport. I know there are better cameras on the market, but at the moment I can only afford 1 of these two. Your opinion is much appreciated. Sorry for the rant, just wanted to provide you with some background information. 👍🏽👍🏽

If you're purely a photog and don't have any want for video RP. If you want to hybrid and use all the capabilities of a camera Z5. For a starting point just to get a feel for something...well it's a starting point so it doesn't matter overall so go with either and learn the system of that brand and grow from there to a R6 or Z7-II