True. Unfortunately the practical limit of 4k60 is around 24 mins on the R8 due to overheating.

​@@albedo0point39 Saw several review videos of the R8 and some said it doesn't overheat,now im confused

​@@Henry_44which one you want to buy out of R7 & R8 for making videos for Instagram & KZfaq ? Which one gives video quality like a pro video camera? For video purpose which one is best?

The shutter issue can be „fixed“ by starting manual sensor cleaning and shutting it off during the process. The lens changing problems i dont have, except for the RF 800 F11 i only use EF (S) lenses with a Meike Filter adapter, i change lenses whenever i want without caring at all.

I already have the r7, just got the r8 and that battery is straight trash 🗑️

Is the ibis bad on r7 for video?

@@jackjon777 no works just fine

@@harrison00xXx what do you mean it’s a liability for video then?

Does it overheat for you? I film weddings outdoors in Texas at 4k60 so I'm hesitant to buy it

I agree with you 100%. These batteries are small and lightweight and fit your pocket better than the bigger batteries do

​@@mothamaster3000​ which one you want to buy out of R7 & R8 for making videos for Instagram & KZfaq ? Which one gives video quality like a pro video camera? For video purpose which one is best?

Is the r8 better than the r6 m1 I’m able to find use r6m1 in my area for $800-$1000 from private sellers or buy new R8 with kit for $1800

@@carlosr.2027 they are both great cameras. The R6 is had alot more PRO features. But, it all comes down to what's best for you. For instance me personally I would pick the R6 Mark 1. Now my wife on the other hand which it's her first year for tography the R8 is a lot better for her because it's a Snappy and faster autofocus. It is a newer autofocus system. Not to say that the R5 and R6 have crappy systems. They are phenomenal but they are also way more customizable. And you also get to SD card slots. In the end they both are very feature-rich. I hope some of this helps.

Absolutely.

What about wedding shoots? R8 doesn't have 2 card slots but is good in low light

@@yeshuaalbarico7152R6 Mark II

R8 is kinda bad for photo though

​@@ClockBestEvent which one you want to buy out of R7 & R8 for making videos for Instagram & KZfaq ? Which one gives video quality like a pro video camera? For video purpose which one is best?

I shoot 99.99% of the time at ISO 12,800 to 25,600 without flash on my EOS R. I shoot my pets and the EOS R doesn't focus on animal eyes. When I use my Canon 600EX II-RT speedlight angled from a ceiling or wall, the ISO won't go above 1600. But I don't want to always have to use speedlight. So for me it has to be R8 or R6 Mark II. Or even a used R6. And leave my EOS R for shooting outdoors during the day.

@@michelecintramika8482 Yes, you then need a FF, but you are also definitely ready to shell out thousands of EUR/USD for your requirements. Many couldn't.

That's exactly my point.

fx3 is slightly better for video but it's really not for stills. I'd either go with the R6 mark ii or the new Sony ZV-E1 (bhpho.to/40RlOAm)

Was it for mostly photography or pictures

How long does the battery last?

How do you like the R10? I have an old M6 Mark II which is great for traveling and was thinking of upgrading. Trying to decide on it, R7 or R8. My Studio Camera is an R5

R8 should not overheat. How are you using it

@@pianosfilipem when I made this comment I did NOT own an R8, but was nervous about overheating. Do rock the R8 now since couple of month as a B-Cam. In 4K 25p it does overheat after about 1hour and 20 minutes. Overhearing warning turns on after about 30-40 minutes. So it does overheat which is also mentioned by canon

Yeah sorry, I just checked and my source was wrong. Maybe it's a regional thing. Thanks for pointing that out.

Thank you for this comment because it really keeps putting me off when I keep hearing full frame Cameras are better, although I heard full frame are more professional

Don't have an RP with me at the moment but the ISO performance is probably about a stop better in higher ISOs. And much better dynamic range.

If your available glass is crop frame, grabbing an R8 means having to sell all of it to pay an arm and a knee for full frame lenses, and all of that for a glorified R10 body. It's easy to drool over the full frame sensor but it also costs more to use it.

Most people (including myself) that I know who have bought the R7 have bought it for the extra "reach" that APS-C and high megapixels give you. No interest whatsoever in shooting wide angle with it, or using APS-C lenses.

Honestly I got a sigma 18-35mm 1.8 ef lens for my r10, and it's covered nearly everything. People overlook ef glass for these cameras for some reason.

R8 for better image quality, R7 for dual card slots and bigger battery.

Definitely R7.

Both cameras can do exactly that. In terms of quality, probably overkill for social media. I'd personally go with the R8 because of the full frame sensor.

you shoot them on the r7

@@kayanna418 yes.

@@vaskes123 I am a r7 user as well and i needed this thanks so much!

@@vaskes123 can i get your website to see your work?

@@kayanna418 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMCcfqynyLariWQ.html choose the 4k resolution.

I just read a comment, but somebody bought a grip adjusting thingy for the R8

You can get a EF to EOS R lens adapter

No, r7 is apsc

The test was done indoors with artificial light. I thought the difference was obvious enough

A little bit lighter

I think the R7 would be more versatile for your needs. It's currently $100 off at B&H. bhpho.to/3AB9UQo

@@HyunRalphJeong thank you! Great video by the way I really appreciate it.

It's been 4 months, so you might have already pulled the trigger on one, but I agree with the poster. The R7 sounds like the right camera. A full frame is generally better in low light, but mainly because of the higher ISOs you need to expose correctly - - and it's these higher ISO settings that introduce more noise in the smaller crop sensor cameras like the R7 has (though it is FAR better than older crop sensors). It's important to understand that shooting in low light in and of itself is not the issue; it's the settings the camera must be set at to capture the scene in low light that becomes the issue. If your subject is a city, buildings, lights, etc. - - subjects that aren't moving, then you don't need high ISO settings to capture those scenes. Throw the R7 on a tripod and use longer exposure times. It will be just as good as a full frame sensor. Now, if you're big into action photography as well - sports and wildlife you mention, then the R7 sounds like the right camera for you between the two. The R7 and R8 are almost identically priced in most markets, so I can understand how choosing between the two can be difficult. Understand that a full frame sensor adds a lot of cost to a camera, so the R8 must be giving up something else in order to come in at the same price as the R7. That would be features. The R7 is currently - - and likely will remain the flagship crop-sensor camera in Canon's mirrorless "R" line (Just like the 7D was in the DSLR lineup). All the features you find on the most high-end in the lineup - - - just with a crop sensor. Meanwhile, the R8 is an entry-level full frame mirrorless design. Bottom line, if action is what you like to shoot, I'd go with the R7 for sure. The R8 *_MIGHT_* have better image quality for other things like landscapes, portraits, things like that, but the R7 will do a fine job on things like that as well. The R7 will have a clear advantage in the action photography space. That's my two cents. Are the features more important to you, or is the image quality inherent in full frame sensors more important? Answer that, and you'll know which camera to get. If you want both image quality and features, you're gonna have to cough up about another grand!!

@@willoughbykrenzteinburg thank you for the help, yeah I ended up with the r7, I love the camera and a step up from my rebel t7.

@crazybanana2228 Great! I have the 7D Mkii. The R7 is the mirrorless successor to my camera. It's probably what I'll upgrade to. You have the best crop sensor mirrorless camera Canon makes - and Canon being one of the best camera makers that exists, sounds like a good decision.

You can get incredible results with which ever body you go with. I’ve done shoots with APSC bodies (Fuji XT3, XT4, and Canon R7) and FF (Sony A7iii and Canon RP) and none of my clients can tell the difference and loved the final results. Cameras are tools, you use them to present your vision/style

It’s not though. It lacks IBIS, duel camera slots and has horrible battery life . All things you’d want for any professional use. Check out Josh sattins video on it. It’s barely usable as even a studio cam and that’s even if you plug it into a power supply

@@evansalmonsen No, I think all camera users keep extra two/three batteries with them and it will do our job. If I am just a content creator then R8 with 24-105mm F4-7.1 & 35mm f1.8 will do my job. Alternatively, R7 with 18-150mm and 16 mm F2.8 will not do that job,

@@ghalibsworld that statement makes literally no sense lmaoo

@@evansalmonsen Canons IBIS is so wobbly on the edges, the R7 has a major issue with it and EF lenses with built in stabilisation, as well as manual lenses - if you have a gimbal then your video will look at lot better soley with lens stabilisation

​​@@evansalmonsen it makes perfect sense,which part of it you don't understand?

Rolling shutter is an issue, shutter shock and the buffer aren't

@@orloaguilar IBIS wobble is real bad on videos

Long story short, full frame sensors usually perform a lot better with low light

@HyunRalphJeong thank you, sounds like I need to educate myself beyond just knowing how to set exposure 😅

in theory yes as it should be. R8 should be AF better because of faster read out speed & better low light AF (FF sensor)

1.6x RF-S crop with 0.71x speedbooster still has 1.12x crop. Plus R7 has too many MPs leading to slower readout.

Isn't that basically what he said? Geez.

They are two different cameras - - - BUT they belong to the same R mirrorless line at the same price-point, so if you are working within a budget, it is absolutely appropriate that these two cameras be compared. If the cost is what you want to spend, it would be helpful to know the difference between the two cameras. You actually articulate perfectly the reason such a comparison is merited. Two cameras. Same product line (mirrorless R series). Same price. If you knew nothing about either one, wouldn't you want to know what the differences are, so you know which one is better for you?

Not anymore.

Yeah, that’s right. If you want all the features AND full frame, it’s called the R6ii. Of course, “AND” costs more.

It’s the canon cripple hammer

Use an ef lens with the adaptor?

It’s a good question, and I do wish I could get some compact fast primes for travel like I had on the M5. That said, I use the R7 in combination with my full frame R bodies and share lenses across them all. I have found the R7 to work incredibly well with all my EF glass, too, which now get the bonus of either a control ring or drop-in filters.

@@Mariner1460 that is my point, you bought apsc body and you are forced to use full frame lenses. even if you have money to buy them but they still to big🧐

@@ramunasvalancius5455 I wouldn't say I'm "forced" to use full frame lenses. I choose to use them. That was my point. "Still to big" for what? Travel, yes, I agree. Everything else, not a problem. I'm guessing not your thing, but I can tell you that the R7 behind a 70-200 f/2.8 or 400 f/2.8 is spectacular. If you must have small image circle lenses, then I have found the Sigma f/1.8 zooms to also work very well on the R7. Yes, this camera is not for everybody, but it fits great into my overall kit.

@@Mariner1460 if works for you, great I'm happy for you😀. for me dos not make sense, 50mm 1.2 £2600. 85mm 1,2 lens cost £3000😭. were is fuji 56mm1.2 lens cost £999. like you said if you adding R7 to existing F Frame collection .then maybe. I was in the past canon shooter still have EF canon cameras and lenses, but now RF system for me to expensive. currently using XT3 very happy. less money, smaller system, same results😀

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I'm in the same situation. At first I thought nah there isn't enough new/upgraded features to justify the price jump. The dynamic range difference is not that huge, the RP's AF is pretty good, and who needs to shoot so many frames a second? But then I found out about some details that aren't often mentioned, like aspect markers in video (so you can frame your videos in 1:1 to pano aspect ratios and even vertical, instead of being just stuck with 16:9 or having to guess how things will look like once cropped)... detection-only AF in video (no re-focusing to the background when your subject moves out of the frame)... dark/bright modes for multiple exposure comps... focus breathing compensation with certain lenses... live depth-of-field preview in EVF for photo instead of having to dedicate and each time press a button for it... chromatic abberation correction added to the RF lens correction profiles... These are actually very useful features that the RP doesn't have. But are they worth it? Does it make an actual difference in your photography process or is it simple enough to work around the RP's compared limitations? I'm still on the fence tbh.

@@lsamoa yes, exactly. As much as I’d love to get the R8, I find more value in buying a new lens. I just recently went all native RF lenses, and the image quality that the RP bangs out with native RF glass is excellent. Perhaps if I can get the R8 on sale and a good trade-in value for my RP, I’d buy it, but I can’t justify spending $2000 Canadian on it right now. (Meanwhile they still sell the RP for around $1200 CAD, which is a steal for a compact full frame).

@@JayCatterson Can't go wrong with a new lens! RF glass is so good. I think I'll stick with the RP for a while too, actually. Enjoy your kit!

@@JayCatterson Just to say that I tried the R8 yesterday and tbh I wasn't that impressed. It's more plasticky than the RP and the image IQ is the same. The AF is quite good though, but other than that, the extra features were a bit underwhelming and definitely not worth the money. So I'm definitely sticking with the RP.

@@lsamoa well I guess that explains why the R8 is lighter than the RP! That’s crazy it felt more plasticky (read: cheap?). Anyway I’m still curious about it, but I’ll prob only buy it at this point if my RP all of a sudden dies and I need a new R series body. Thanks for letting me know!