A relatively rare Canon VRHF600 VHS HiFi VCR that almost went to recycling. How close you ask, well it was in the car ready to go bye bye.
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@ArchivoHumano3 жыл бұрын
Screw the trolls, man. Your channel is the best!
@reacey3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@rwj7773 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I normally ignore them but it can be fun to get them going.
@andynoon25843 жыл бұрын
A fantastic vid and repair. So glad you stuck with it and tried to get it working which you did. For its age it's got a very good picture. Well done and thanks for letting us watch you fix the VCR.
@plan7a3 жыл бұрын
Additional comment: The way you fixed the pinch roller and many great tips that were given throughout the video as always are also appreciated. Thank you.
@426hemicuda10903 жыл бұрын
It is such a good feeling that you get after spending your effort into something and being successful
@crashbandicoot4everr3 жыл бұрын
This is called the D-1 chassis and this particular model looks identical to the PAL Panasonic NV-870. Very nice machines.
@Sans_Solo_3 жыл бұрын
Great Fix Dave....that Varnish story had me laughing!
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
We were laughing too at the time.
@plan7a3 жыл бұрын
Well, as always, I think it's really great someone cares enough to give machines like these a service and tries (and succeeds sometimes) to get them going again. I think everyone should appreciate how the care and attention into getting this working was shared and that a lovely device works as good as it does. That pause/still is fantastic with no juddering and bad tracking, as is the sound and image provided by the device. The rewind, fast-forward and other operations are quiet and you can see why devices such as this had such longevity!
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
They lasted as long as they did because they were not built to sell for 128.88 at wallymart. This machine was probably about 16 or 1700 when it was new. They used good quality components. Even the rubber is in good shape. I should drag out the pv1730. That will have people drooling. The most advanced standard VHS deck Panasonic made for the consumer market and was identical to one of their commercial duplicator models. Direct drive take up and supply reel motors, direct drive capstan and drum. Seperate load and front loader motors. Very complex motor drive circuit and loaded with bad capacitors.
@SeanBZA3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids I would post you one.......... complete with the auto loader as well. Might need new audio control heads, the 10000 hour timer is long at the far end of the little mercury line.
@NunYa9533 жыл бұрын
I learned long ago that you can always tell who the worst technicians are in any field because they're the ones that criticize all other technicians. Good techs don't need to badmouth other ones. As long as it gets fixed, that's all that matters.
@ricfair99193 жыл бұрын
Thanks for todays video! Those old machines are built to last, and can be serviced. Glad you got it working. Happy Fathers Day! When I hear "troll" I always think asshole.. for some reason.
@thomascalamo42363 жыл бұрын
Dave your work is better than good. These teaching points are a lot of help to a lot of people. As far as guys like Johnny, he will get lumped up as a can of whip ass explodes on him. What goes around comes around.
@idiot13213 жыл бұрын
I love these videos so much. As a VHS collector I find so much use in these videos. They help me out when repairing my VCRs. I currently have a Zenith top loader from 1980 which plays for 2 seconds then stops. Changed the belts and flips the rubber tired inside out. Rewind and fast forward works great but I cant figure out what is stopping the tape. Gonna try out the tape tension next.
@WSNO3 жыл бұрын
I hope you get the ol girl fixed!
@SeanBZA3 жыл бұрын
Check the reel sensors, they can have the little silver and black foil fall off, the opto go faulty or even just the sensor is full of debris.
@crashbandicoot4everr3 жыл бұрын
Zenith from 1980... That would be a Betamax right?
@josericardogs14353 жыл бұрын
I have a Panasonic PV-4700 that has a very similar mechanism as this one, if not the same. Made in 1987. My aunt gave it to me. Was kept in a damp place so the head amp board is all rusted. Tried to fix it when I was 11 and of course I made it worse. Used to produce a very crappy picture. Was originally a NTSC machine but someone installed a hack board to convert to PAL-M, very common thing to do in the 80's here in Brazil. A lot of people bought their machines abroad, like in the US or Paraguay. VHS machines used to be very expensive in Brazil, almost the same price of a brand new car. A luxury item really, but in the 90's they came down in price like crazy.
@simtitan12 жыл бұрын
All of these older VCRs should at least be attempted to be repaired. They were built like tanks compared to the junk they were churning out towards the end of VHS's lifespan.
@zahidahmed54733 жыл бұрын
Fantastic repair good job.
@joey_after_midnight3 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see a VCR I get a small spasm of nostalgia. They were such a large part of my childhood and early adulthood. I love seeing them repaired.. but at least down in the lower 48, they are getting so rare to see.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
They are getting pretty rare here too. I have had a few to fix lately.
@theelectronicslab33232 жыл бұрын
Nice sir you are doing the Job in very simple tools
@patriciaafshar73233 жыл бұрын
I am always looking forward for your Receiver and VCR repair videos. Keep up the good work. I also try not to zap the Adds, so you would get something for your efforts. Thanks
@audiogear4742 жыл бұрын
Good video brings back memories. Was also a vcr tech for years. What I did on the pinch rollers was put in a clear dummy tape put in ff play mode and lightly hold 1000 sand paper against pinch roller while turning opposite reel so counter would keep going. Basically sanded until the no shininess was left on roller. Eject tape then clean off debris off roller.
@mjl44234743 жыл бұрын
That ended up being quite the project! but made for a awesome video, nice repair!
@jeffadams55103 жыл бұрын
OMG.....I am SO dissapointed you didn't use dirty q-tips-LOL!!!!! And as for soldering.....yes you say it correctly compared to me..........yes your better than me but I've been doing it for 38 years and could MAYBE give you a good run for your money.........k, maybe not...(lol)...but I have learned some tricks along the way LMBO!!!!!!!!! Love the video-keep em coming!!!!! Still looking for the tuner to send ya.........
@bumerangsydney2 жыл бұрын
That's a cool machine! Well done!
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
I have an even cooler Panasonic pv1730 somewhere. At least i think I still have it. Tried to fix it a couple times but gave up. It's got so many things wrong with it. That machine has direct drive real tables direct drive caps and direct drive drum separate loading motor for both the front loader and mechanism. Will be loaded with bad caps throughout it. Someday maybe it will get resurrected that is if I still have it
@timothyrdunning3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this post and find your posts very informative,obviously the trolls have very boring lives.Keep it Up!
@alcoholisfreedrink3 жыл бұрын
This is one sweet looking VCR.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
As far as reliability yes. Picture quality not so much.
@ps5gamer273 жыл бұрын
Perfect ... Perfect... Perfect
@zx8401ztv3 жыл бұрын
For it's age it works well, now it's problems have been sorted :-D. I bet those bad joints were only just working in the past, No one opens a working device to hunt for cracked joints. A fault just waiting to happen. In the uk it was Nicam for the t.v stereo audio, some high end vcr's had it.
@SeanBZA3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and despite it being transmitted in a lot of markets, you found very few TV sets that had NICAM, and where it was actually used. That decoder was pretty pricey initially, and only slowly dropped in price as the chipset makers started to use them. Also you paid a lot to Phillips for the royalties on the chipset, so really only was used with sets that had all Phillips inside, though a lot of the later sets had the PCB laid out and ready to solder in the NICAM module, but with 2 wire bridges to pass the stereo audio through where it was not fitted.
@WSNO3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to pick all these cool old things up and take them home instead of sending them away! I'd love to see them all working again, ebay pricing be danged. They're ALL worth the effort & love.
@danmackintosh63253 жыл бұрын
I feel the same, trouble is when one finds a source (like our local auction house) one ends up with a pile of cool old kit nobody needs. At least in houses like ours though, they're wanted and kept for future generations who may or may not appreciate the coolness of it all.
@WSNO3 жыл бұрын
@@danmackintosh6325 ah! If you are like me in passion for saving these cool things, might i recommend making videos to share them! Goodness knows this website needs more viewpoints & lenses, especially on cool old electronics hardware & stuff! Much love, friend!
@lesrogers73103 жыл бұрын
I'm with you and i HATE people not turning up when they said they would. I do computer repairs and the last guy failed to turn up on two occasions. When i tackled him about it all i got was a rather arrogant "i've been really busy blah blah blah....'' like that's a really good excuse! My attitude was 'so you don't have a phone then and couldn't let me know you would not be coming'. I get the distinct impression that because they know i'm retired that i have nothing better to do than wait in for them.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Retired and nothing to do? When my dad retired he was busier than he was when he was working. I barely saw him. For the first few years he was never around. I aware he cut every lawn in the neighbourhood and if he wasn't doing that he was helping someone do something or on a golf course somewhere.
@Ted_E_Bear3 жыл бұрын
You do cool work !
@bigalsmallengines2 жыл бұрын
I agree that you use the gun better than anyone! I appreciate your vids and have used troubleshooting and tips from both you and some others, in fact another one I watch turned me on to you. I have a lot of vintage audio and video stuff I am going through for maintenance and repairs around here. Sometimes people bring me their stuff to look at or give it to me cause they don't want it no more. I like to save stuff from the trash when I can also. Thanks for taking your time to show others your wisdom. Cheers! 🍻 -AC
@waltchan3 жыл бұрын
Shame on you for saying that this unit is junk and only good for the scrap. This 1985 (not 1984) Canon VR-HF600 was the clone-model of 1985 Panasonic AG-1800, and it's the last one built with a linear power supply transformer. Far better than switching power supply found in PV models. The 1986 models (Canon VR-HF810 and VR-HF820) came with MTS tuner and belt-less front carriage. The 1984 Panasonic PV-1730 had major issues with a cracked pinch roller cap, video head drum bearings, and direct-drive ICs motor failure. This is the same mechanism found in AG-1950 as well, which also had IC motor failure. I like the successor 1985 PV-1740 with 2-belt mechanism better than 1984 PV-1730, in terms of reliability.
@nycdogs3 жыл бұрын
I used HiFi videos for music all the time, especially to record long radio programs. one tape = 6 hours !
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
8 hours or 10 hours on t180 and t200. I have a bunch of those.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@Taco I used 180 and 200 tapes in a timelapse machine for years.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I have a 6 hour tape recorded off a satellite subcarrier called the new age of jazz. I really need to digitize that one.
@SeanBZA3 жыл бұрын
E240 tapes on LP would do 8 hours, but yes a lot of machines did not like them, so I would generally buy E195 tapes, that extra 15 minutes came in handy a lot of times as program schedules were often slipped a little due to unforeseen circumstances.
@SeanBZA3 жыл бұрын
@Taco Most Panasonic after around 1990 would play back SECAM perfectly well, even if it was not part of the spec, because they used the same chroma and luma chipsets that Matsushita made for the world market, which had built in playback of PAL, NTSC in both flavours, SECAM and also MESECAM, and which would handle them perfectly, as all control was done from the microcontroller via I2C bus, so they only had to change the microcontroller feature set inputs, to tell it what market it was defaulting to, and what features were software disabled for record. Playback the chipset would detect, and then play automatically provided the TV set supported it as well, except for some of the higher end chipsets which came with standards conversion built in, o they could take anything in, frame store it, resample it, and then output any other format, all in the same single chip solution. Generally only the top end decks had this, and the prosumer ones.
@2ndPyleOfVinyl3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great. The naysayers probably have not worked on even a quarter of the devices you have worked on. This deck actually reminds me of a regret of mine. I found one just like this in Goodwill back in 2017. Barely any scratches, the panel door was on there too. Looked almost new. Yet it had the issue with the cassette not landing (and then would eject promptly). Since I had no idea what I would get myself into, I did not buy it. Would have been a nice unit in my collection. I settled for it's low end brother, a Sylvania VC 2234 which is not a bad V.C.R. by any stretch. It did open up the door for me to learn repair as it developed an issue with the idler after two years of faithful service. I started seeking out videos like this so I could save my poor Sylvania. It now works better than ever.
@SeanBZA3 жыл бұрын
Rubber reviver is a common product in the print industry, you generally buy it by the gallon, and use it like that as well. Revives the rubber rollers in presses, and you also have a good number of rubber rollers that need to be relined, so you pay for that, even at $1000 per set, because the other option is buy a new press to replace the one you have, and the new one is around $50k minimum, and not as good as your 40 year old solid metal panel offset press. Plus the old press works well, and is not as touchy and prone to breaking down. Yes the rubber cleaner is rough, strips your skin grease and oil free instantly, but cleans rubber parts to nearly new condition. Just keep away from plastics, and even the vapour will craze plastics like PS, and this will also damage nylon.
@boltingskyline52342 жыл бұрын
Lol!!! Just imagining the Trolls starting to piss their pants. "Dave...!!! Why are you dipping the dirty Q-tip into the Rubber Juice and wiping it on the Rubber Roller!!!? Why Dave, Why!!!!!!? WHAAAAAAA!!!!!!😭😭" OMG!🙄🙄
@chriscutress17023 жыл бұрын
I have a JVC that looked a lot like this unit. I think it's in the garage now and I'll have to see if it still works thanks to your videos.
@danmackintosh63253 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the vid so far. Have to admit it's been that long since I've used my Thorn VHS machine that I can't remember the model number even, but that mechanism is pretty darn reliable also. I picked it up in an auction lot for £5 with a couple of CRT sets from a house clearance & it worked from the get go, no cleaning no belt no nothing. I'd bet if I went and shoved a tape in it's face now it'd do the same, will have to make time to pull it out and give it some deserved attention and run some John Wayne films through it lol
@danmackintosh63253 жыл бұрын
Oh and just to add, when I notice a troll spouting the "unsubscribing" bit, I tend to ask if they are a train or perhaps a Boeing 737.. If not, why do they feel the need to announce their departure?
@danmackintosh63253 жыл бұрын
And a final addition, that machine is so nice. The dual VFD and the extra features really set it apart as one worth keeping. I mean, my Thorn has a headphone jack and timer record but that's about it. The multiplex HiFi, input selects and level controls just make me want to find one now! This is definitely one you'd want to run either set-top or on the unit beside the TV
@danmackintosh63253 жыл бұрын
Just lost a long typed up reply, gah computers! Anyway, gist of it was I don't like recording myself & there's much better folk out there with much more knowledge. Suggestions would be Shango066 (personal favourite for entertainment and learning), Jordan Pier, bandersentv, radiotvphononut, glasslinger, Techmoan as well as obviously right here.
@danmackintosh63253 жыл бұрын
There, I managed to reply without screwing it up that time lol
@KylesDigitalLab2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in buying this one if it's not valuable to you, I just find it interesting that Canon sold VCRs. Usually I don't like VCRs that were made by other companies and sold under a different name, like any RCA or GE branded VCR. I guess it makes sense but I always think of SLR cameras when I think of Canon. I'm trying to get a VR-40 aswell since that is a portapak one with Hi-Fi which is rare on portable VCRs. I already have an S-VHS but I just like the design and build quality of the older units before they got cheap. Sadly I think shipping it to my state (MI) would be more expensive than what the unit is worth, but I am not sure. Great video btw
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
Shipping would cost a fortune as it is very heavy.
@probnotstech3 жыл бұрын
Long live the dirty q-tip! lol
@penfold1783 жыл бұрын
great video as all ways i'd like to see the trolls use minimal tools to fix electronics and see how they get on lol .i have a hot air station i hardly use it i find old ways are faster with the iron ignore the trolls keep up the good work my friend .
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I like to stir up the trolls. Get their blood pressure up. Like the idiot that is arguing about plasma tv power consumption. Comparing them to how much power a crypto mining system uses, like as if that is revekant. Here is is calling me wrong and all i am doing is looking at the label on the back of the tv and looking at my power consumption meter for the actual usage and he is in a rage. Lol. Fools.
@Sonic_The_Electronic_Madlad3 жыл бұрын
I love complicated machines a lot, put it on ebay.
@bhuvansoni33412 жыл бұрын
You Are Successful Man
@rawr519193 жыл бұрын
Saved in the nick of time, it was a lucky duck
@Mazwreck3 жыл бұрын
Great video, this vcr reminds me of the blaupunkt that my late father had which my brother now owns. I think he bought it maybe early 80s anyway it needed a new head fitted and when my brother took it in to be repaired the guy doing the service/repair wanted to buy it? Not sure why at the time but i wish i knew what the model it was. All i remember is the connection on bsck was SCART only
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
This was one of the finest consumer VCRs ever produced from a reliability standpoint.
@crashbandicoot4everr3 жыл бұрын
I have a Blaupunkt VCR of the same vintage. It's an RTV-316 and it's a rebadged Panasonic NV-G7. I found it in the garbage about a couple of months ago.
@technixbul3 жыл бұрын
Nice ...!
@TYSAFLIPPINFOOL5 ай бұрын
picked one up for 5 bucks today needs work lol
@madpom23 жыл бұрын
in new zealand i had a panosonic nv 850 it was heavey but bullet proof and lasted me 12 years
@750kv83 жыл бұрын
Well, I wish good luck for all the courts for going through ALL the cases when such an infringement happened. And probably a time length required for processing equal to the age of the universe. On the other hand, I just wonder what these devices with recordable *broadcasted* channels have been made for THEN....? Such a screwed-up world we are living in...
@waltercarpenito17373 жыл бұрын
i remember years ago everybody went crazy with those clocks always blinking no-one knew how to set them
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
That's what you call a vidiot.
@SeanBZA3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids ISTR that some VCR's would have a teletext decoder in them, that the sole purpose of was to decode the incoming data stream to parse the clock and date off page 100, and use it to both set the clock and keep it somewhat synchronised. Time keeping as good as the TV station text system would have, which in most cases was derived from the TV station master clock, so was accurate, though you would always have a second or two delay from GMT due to all the various stages of video processing in the transmit chain, and even more if you had a GEO hop between the studio and the transmitter itself.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanBZA there was a time when all the PBS stations had the time. All the digital stations now do, bit they are all over the map. Some are as much as 2 minutes off. Then there was the failed tv guide. Many old VCRs and DVD recorders will just sit there looking for the tv guide data after a power failure and if you have lost the original remote good luck clearing it. I threw away a perfectly good dvd recorder due to that bloody tv guide. Needed the remote. Even downloaded the harmony remote code and the button was missing. Said I needed to use the original remote to load that button. Didn't have the original remote and didn't feel like buying one so off it went. Put it on Craig's list to sell. Got multiple interested people and waited around for no shows. Put a sign on it, free and left it out at the street and someone came by and took it.
@speed_rider3623 жыл бұрын
Cool VCR. Just a quick question... If the mechanism fully unloads during rewind and fast forward, does it mean you do not have the tape time counter active? Or does it have some other means to measure the tape time?
@crashbandicoot4everr3 жыл бұрын
The old VCRs didn't have a real-time counter. Only a 3-digit or 4-digit counter that didn't count in actual time. The first Panasonic VCRs that featured a real-time counter were the ones with the G mechanism.
@bionicman713 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of vcrs that im interested in getting them serviceing if they can be..they both power up but need some work
@jessepaul68683 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I found this exact vcr at an estate sale for $10! And have been using it ever since. A few days ago the picture became fuzzy and choppy while playing. Audio works perfectly during it and when i hit pause the picture becomes almost clear but when i hit unpause it goes back to being fuzzy? Any insight would be great id love to keep this one going for as long as i can everything else on it seems to work perfectly
@penfold1783 жыл бұрын
yep that's what they are fools who live a sad life with nothing else better to do but slag off professionals such as you'r good self that's being in the business a long time and you get a fool that comes along and tells you yer doing it wrong what a idiot in my book oooh makes yer blood boil lol but i love the way you get up there nose lol it's class i all ways enjoy watching youre videos . again keep up the good work my friend look forward the next one.
@wx4newengland3 жыл бұрын
Kind of like my PV 1545- I wonder if mine will still power on- lol-
@alex659193 жыл бұрын
The cassette goes in but does not lift the cassette tab, so a beep noise is heard and the cassette is immediately returned. My VHS is SONY SLV-720HF. What can I do?
@benw123453 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion of the JVC HRD725? I have one awaiting resurrection that I've owned since the late 80's. I suspect I'm going to be faced with many bad capacitors. I put in a new head in the late 90's, and it never saw much work after that.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Not familiar with the model number. I would know it if i saw it but all model numbers are a blurr that the trolls that sit there on Google love to correct me on. I know no model numbers or chassis numbers. I have to see it to know it.
@crashbandicoot4everr3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids That's the first VHS hi-fi model from 1984.
Hey volt I have a question, I have a VR-HF710 and just today the pinch roller suddenly started to finally give way, I tried to sandpaper it but it didn’t help at all unfortunately, I tried everything to make it grip again but it’s pretty much done for, what place could have such specific replacement for it? If you wonder the part is designated as part number 4802183
@12voltvids13 күн бұрын
No idea
@Phillipthefool3.010 ай бұрын
did you still recycle it even though it behaved so well at the doctors appointment?
@12voltvids10 ай бұрын
It's in the storage unit.
@m9ovich7857 ай бұрын
Do you still see comments on this Video ?? I have one of these that I bought new from the Company I worked for at the Time. As a matter of interest My Serial No. is very close to Your Unit HAHAHAHA It was plugged in and working till 2019 when I cleaned out the House from a Fire. Was in storage till just recently (Original Box) and is trying to "wake it up" got it to load the Tape. fast Forward and Rewind. The tape transport wants to load the Tape to play, it moves just a bit and resets. I can move the transport easily by hand like You did. moves freely I can put it in the Play position, Power it up and it will reset. Since the Head drum is Frozen, I am wondering if is detecting that the Drum is not turning. Do You have a Video on how to remove the Drum so I can free it up. Can I just take out the 3 Screws from the under side? I cleaned the Mode switch. which is very touchy to get it centered to work right. HAHHAAHA.. Mike M Central Wis...
@Upgradeo83 жыл бұрын
When are we going to get a shop tour @12voltvids?
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Already done.
@claypf4795 Жыл бұрын
Can we get an update on the kitty?
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
He is hanging in there. Is eating again and that is a good thing. Vet has him on expensive drugs. Oral right now, 25.00 a pill and needs one every day. Very expensive plus the 4000 I already spent. His appitite is back which is a good thing i guess. They want to "consult' again for another 300 and that is before they do anything else. I hate these people. Suck you dry and in the end whatever they do may not do much. It's a gamble.
@RadOo3 жыл бұрын
9:17 since I am on phone now I am confused, is it you speaking? 😅
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Huh? What?
@drdolby15853 жыл бұрын
UR doing great!! (but I'm not subscribing because of your bad soldering) 😀