Is this release enough to keep canon’s customers or too little, too late? I jumped ship to Sony already. Here’s how I rig my FX6: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZNmZsSAzNvLeZ8.html

As a Canon and Sony shooter, the only shorts I saw was a lack of a high base ISO, SDI and variable ND in the Canon system, but they only came into need in very specific situations. I use the c70 and R5C A/B combo with few compromises in matching and quality. With my FX6 and FX30 combo, there are so many things that are lacking especially in the focus and exposure tools, not to mention sending out those tools to external monitors. Also, something I never had with Canon was the audio RF interference issues that are created by the Sony cameras themselves even when using the Sony UWP-D lavs. I am keeping the Sony cams to match existing footage from out-of-market producers, and shooting some conference work, but I will continue to promote Canon when the client has no camera preference. The C400 does fill in most of those holes, especially for that starting price, but yes, they did take a long time to address some of those issues. I won't be picking one up for at least a couple of years.

I ordered my C400 from B&H. Can't wait for September. I hear all that you say about Canon taking too long. But they are here now. This will kill with my 24-105 2.8. Pumped. Gonna keep one C70 and sell one and my R5c. Should be good for a long time!! I think this will hurt RED most. Those shooters already have RF glass. Internal ND's and 6k will pull some over. You are one of the few ExCanon now Sony shooters that doesn't bad mouth Canon. A lot of them were very vocal about leaving Canon. I don't see the point in burning bridges.

Canon has a bad track record of keeping up with the competition, but to me the 24-105 f2.8 is a compelling enough reason to switch to Canon, with the added benefit of being able to crop in to S35 for extra range and still delivering at 4K. I'm curious if Sony can make a 6k FX6 II without cannibalizing the Burano like it cannibalized the FX9.

6:31 You mean the full size XLR’s Sony put on the handle? And if taken off users lose their XLR input completely 😂. At least Canon put mini’s on the body. The FX6 doesn’t even have false color built in but it cost more than the C70? Huh? None of these brands get it.

Those 2 cameras are miles apartC400 & FX6. C400 compares to the FX9 better and can make an argument against the Burano.

yes bigger than fx6 and FX6 has full size XLR BUT the XLR ports are in the top handle of the FX6. sometimes dont want that top handle.

I know a number of people who use 70 with the 605. It's nice to have a smooth servo zoom

The miniXLR ports are a total non-issue. You can have mini-XLR to XLR-female dongles on there. A lot of the Blackmagic cameras also use mini-XLR. Lots of cameras do. Also, seeing the C400 has the multifunction hotshoe, you can just add the Tascam Audio adapter and voila: you have 2 full-size XLR (on top of the two mini-XLR) ... and actually 4-channel audio tracks.

I own two C300-3 and this whole hubbub about switching the audio inputs to the other side is confusing to me. The preamps are absolutely solid and reliable and I never take them out of auto. They are plug and forget. I personally run audio from each mic into two channels, the second one recording the signal at -30% in case of a loud pop but I don't even need that. Not once in the thousands of hours operating have I felt the need to adjust audio levels while on the shoulder. I am however also happy to see the triple base ISO and that they reintroduced 1fps, which will make timelapses quicker to do. Let's hope the C300-4 comes soon. (and I do still shoot EF. not gonna buy all lenses anew.)

You need an eye piece loupe for your fx6. You’ll need the flop stop also but it’s a game changer when you have a loupe.

Just switched for the Canon R6 Markii to the FX6 very happy so far. Canon was too late to the party. I agree with all of your points.

Great points - I use a FX6 at work and I just bought a used C70 for my personal camera (coming from a C100 M2). I'm personally a long time Canon shooter with a lot of EF glass but I understand the frustration with the Canon cine offerings. I came from a super 35 sensor so I understood the pros and cons of the format. I think the Panasonic S52 is an insanely great camera for the money, but once you had built in NDs very hard to go back. It will be interesting to see the direct comparison videos between the FX6 and C400 but I'm sure the C400 will produce fine images just like the FX6

Great thoughts, but I disagree that this camera will not get attention from non canon users, I already know few people that are going back to canon from sony for c400 and I can understand why considering the price and that the camera is ready too go straight out the box that is appealing to people that wanna test it. Considering that it has an RF mount even some RED people that I know plan to get one considering regarding usability it offers much more and can do basically the same as Komodo X. At the end I do think sales will show soon if those are just individual cases or if this came build up enough of interest to be popular like komod, fx6 and c70...

I'm eager to get this camera. I love the C70 but I was looking for a FF, more robust and faster camera. However the lack of DGO tech and the clinical-broadcasting look that I'm seeing online is keeping from pre-order it. I guess I will have to wait for the field tests.

Lumix user here, I'm adding the Ronin 4D to meet my bigger camera needs.

I have been stuck with Canon with heavy investment in RF glass. So glad lots of people moved to Sony as that has to hurt Canon which will hopefully motivate them to get their act together moving forward.

I still am scared to invest in a mount that is only on one brand of camera.

Hey David. I was glad to see this camera drop. Right now, my outdoor productions are C70 and C300 M3. This full frame opens up my wide angle style for on the boat as I'm always limited when using the 35mm senor. Nice take, I know you still have some Canon love in your heart. ❤

When I see a camera company bring something like MIDI XLRs I wonder who they think their audience is for this camera

I am very curious to hear what you think of the C400 in combination with the Canon RF 24-105mm F/2.8 L. This seems like a super versatile setup, something you are always looking for. It checks all the boxes in my opinion: f2.8 across the entire zoom range, stabilization, internal NDs, high dynamic range (10bit), autofocus, XLR inputs, HDMI and SDI inputs. I hope you get the chance to test this setup! Thank you for your videos, they are very informative and I watch every upload. Keep up the good work!

I got to play with the C400 at Cinegear over the weekend. Its a great camera, definitely the FX6 for canon users. It feels more rugged than the FX6 but I would still stick with Sony.

Sony is killing it right now but the c70 still represents a more unique proposition vs the fx6. The formfactor with the codecs are still I think offer something that is the closest we have of a hybrid cinema camera. Yes the fx6 has fullframe and better low light but other than that, i don't the image especially in the departs of color's is where it's at. Granted alot of the negatives of the c70 came from it's initial release but canon has shown their commitments to really powerful firmware updates. Again the fx6 is a great camera but it really doesn't offer that much over an a7s/fx3 while the c70 especially at some of these used price points is giving a c300mk3 sensor in a really compelling small formfactor. I think alot of your reason's make sense to consider a move but not enough to switch systems especially if there is a huge investment in new media and glass.

Well stated, totally agree, it is definitely a C70 buddy, problem is some of these companies egos over shadow their ability to learn from their competitors. Sad!

Good for Canon users.... but is this camera enough to get Sony FX6 users to jump ship to Canon? I don't know. It would mean not only changing cameras, but lenses etc.. it's a lot of effort and potential loss to jump ship. I'd also like to see the image v the Canon C70. The C70's DGO sensor was unreal at capturing a great image with unreal DR, this has the 3 base ISO feature, but that doesn't particularly mean a great deal to me. FX6 at 12800 plus the VND works more than fine.

So sad they didnt found a way to have a full frame DGO sensor.. and still good rolling shutter. Meybe in ten years

Exactly why i went with sony, the same lens mount and so many 3rd party options

I don't think we will see a 6K FX6 Mark II. I think a redesign will need to happen and they would now need a 6K sensor with the same if not better low light performance.

Now sony needs to make a 6k fx6 mark 2 with interanl raw if not then game over

It checks like 80% of my wishlist boxes... so I guess I'll have to patiently wait for 3rd parties before upgrading from the C70. Guess I'm basically just hoping for Canon's version of the RED Komodo X with internal ND's and actual lowlight capability like Sony. I really don't want to be forced to use that screen + top handle, I'd much rather a 5" or 7" monitor that's powered through the system to avoid cables with camera controls like RED's DSMC2 monitors. Griffin Conway said the V mount plate from the c500 mark ii will fit it, I just hope it charges the Canon camera battery so I don't have to bring a charger for it, and if not - here's to hoping someone also makes a BPA30 sized battery that can be charged off USB-C.

I've Used the C70 on a lot of corporate gigs and I really like the camera. But there's 2 massive downsides and 1 mini downside which I hate about it; The mini XLR ports means we have to use a adapter cable just to get proper audio into the camera which means more cables on to the camera, the loose flip out screen that flips down on its own even when the screw is tight which I fixed on a prep day, even with a cage on. And I did notice on 1 shoot its not that great in low light screens even with 2 aperture mini lights at full strength, couldn't bring a full LED panels as We wasn't allowed to for safety as we was filming horses. I also don't know if this is possible But this has bugged me on every shoot, Which even better cameras also Like the C300s Used every mark on a doc shoot for film school. Not being able to change camera setting quickly on the monitor that Directly talks to the camera. If there is a monitor that does that, They can take my money.

is it not strange that you can only get 6k in raw?

When attending Full Sail for the Digital Cinematography program, they stocked us with the Sony FX6. I then invested in the A7 IV, FX3 AND A6700. I held on to my R6 for almost 9 months even after I had the A7 IV until I decided to sell it, because I actually thought I may come back to Canon someday. All my Sonys have their place in my workflow. I have one set of Ef mounts and that’s the Xeen CF Ciné Primes. Everything else is E mount. I am not impressed or may never be with their new RF cinema lineups. This C400 is nice but it seems from this release even the future lineups will not convince me to come back. Sony has my heart and my damn $$$ too for at least the next 8 years or so.

Nice overview. C400 with R5C will make a great combo. A full frame C70 would also be welcome.

Keep up the good work David !

Fx6 with a9mk3 with 6k global shutter around the corner. You are right, Canon is late to the party

doesn't the c70 have time code? there is a port in the front of camera

Great points all around. I left canon for similar reasons. If I was invested in canon, I’d be stoked on this! Mini xlr though is very strange especially for an $8,000 camera (price check?). I mean doesn’t the FX30 have XLR?! 😂. I think I might just be a Sony fan boy

Too little and almost too late. It would be interesting to see sony put their new 8k sensors in the fx3 m2 and the fx6 m2 with raw recording. I was legitimately looking at c500, but hated the fact it stopped at 5.8 among other things. This camera just scrapes in, but they stopped at 12 bit raw....similar to the black magic 6k pro. For most people, raw is useless, but in my area of doco making, its amazing. Why not 16bit? why not Ibis (this is needed for handheld primes), and why 6k is raw only and the other formats can record in mp4? I also hate adapters, mini xlr like the black magic is awfull to use, and they stick out which means you need to buy adaptors that turn sideways so it doesn't do that. Great effort from cannon though, but after how many years?

I think also that this camera comes late! I have never understood Canon and i don't like the handling!

7:57 in the handle. You can attach the tascam xlr2d-c on the handle for a fx6 style, full size xlr out. 🤓

I think the c70 MKII will be a small c400, just not full frame but with 6k and a DGO. This at 4999.- could make people switch to Canon. The aggressive pricing for good products could bring people back to Canon.

good breakdown man!

As an FX9 user I will go with C400. It does everything my FX9 does in a much smaller and lighter body while offering Raw. Does that make sense?😂

Canon is still slightly behind due to a lack of first party lenses. But this wouldn’t be an issue for people adapting manual lenses.

David Hello, Canon EVF-V50 OLED Viewfinder Will this viewfinder fit the new Canon C400 camera and will it work? and the second question is, is it possible to fix the manfrotto pad directly to the bottom of this chamber? or do you need an additional platform separately?

Sony needs to release a 24-105 F2.8 PZ lens, a Mi Shoe to 3.5mm adapter, figure out a lighter codec update for 4K 10 bit, and the FX6 will be near perfect as is for another 2-4 years. Oddly enough, I would be more interested in buying an FX9 II with some tweaks so I can have a true “big” camera, before I am interested an FX6 II with more resolution or something. I like the FX6 as is, just needs a better PZ choice than the original old 28-135 and that’s about it. Now if they wanted to figure out how to marry the two - make an FX8 or something where it’s got all the broadcast I/O needs, and is smaller than an FX9, but slightly bigger than the FX6, priced at $8000, I would be okay with that too. Really still want to see an update to the Sony camcorder lineup with 4K 10 bit and S-Cinetone, but I also went ahead and got the Canon XF605 to fill that camcorder role in the meantime. The hardest part about that so far has been going back to the old ND system. The electronic VND on the FX6 is just so darn good. Anyways, investing in glass is where I’m focused now, and I’m going all in on Sony. Canon lost me years ago and it would be difficult to get me to go back. The C400 isn’t it. Oh, and I thought their demo film looked muddy and dark. Didn’t look anything special to me. The ProAV test footage looked better.

Sometimes I feel bad for not caring enough about hardware now days But a great POV of a Sony user . I might be going against the grain But I moved from the fx6/fx3 to r5c/c70 I could do with the canon limitation I just couldn’t stand convoluted menu system The lack of consistent updates And the lackluster quality ND in the fx6 I still rent the fx6 from time to time when I really really need a good AF system

First, before you crap all over EF lenses: These were some of the best available (many still are). Many were developed before digital and therefore have the image circle to cover full frame sensors. I am not saying that RF optics are not good, however optics do not move at the pace of innovation of electronics. A 20 year old (for example, 70-200mm f2.8 zoom) is still totally relevant today. I have a c200 and a c500. Both perform excellently, probably for many years to come. I refuse to lock in losses on perfectly good EF lenses just to chase the shiny new object (EOS R). Most likely I will commit to the ARRI PL mount on the C500 since the really good and interesting glass seems to be largely PL.

This is the first thing that comes to mind every time I hear people saying, “I’ve been waiting for this camera for years” 🤡 Like, what do you mean bro? Lmao, if you need a tool for the job, buy it! Waiting is for losers or people who don’t make enough money to afford the right tools for their job. In either case, they need to get a new hobby. Perhaps one they can afford.

C400 basically took some features from Burano, FX9-6-3 and added triple base iso. This is actually a genius move of Canon.

Thanks David, on the money as usual with all the real world nitty gritty that we can all relate to. I'll be getting the 400 , might move my c70 on for all those annoying reasons. Welcome back to Canon. Lol.

Would you rather have a Burano or Multiple C400s?

Moved to sony fx6 after selling my 3 canon c100....no regrets...canon is huge disappointment. RF lens are big and heavy whereas sony G masters are becoming smaller and lighter. Sony has a comprehensive library of lenses to choose from including 3rd party. Canon c400 is not going to make any impact as many shooters are already heavily invested in sony ecosystem.

The removal of DGO was in benefit of read speed

Your audio is crap, until 8:32. Don't run the a/c while filming.

everyone left canon, they entered filmaking only 2010,,,but then flopped at around 2020...so y ws made for video

I feel it odd everyone moaning about mini xlrs, while you have gripe yourself surely if youre working with a sound guy he'll have the right tools and if not you'd have your own mini to full xlr so where is the hiccup.? Also you say the song manages to keep xlrs, but thats not true theyre on the handle which is probably my biggest issue with the fx6 and you can also get the tascam adaptor for the canon if it is an absolute issue. So for me seems a non starter and is just something to say canon has a bad thing here, so if thats it, it has to be a pretty outstanding camera overall! Personally i am all for mini xlrs if they keep size and weight down and stay on the body. I feel if sony had done this it would have been heraled as an amazing feat to bring along a new standard and revolutionise audio in the self shooter space. Say if it had one on the body of the fx3. Just so you guys know i am neither a canon or aony shooter and just hire what is needed for the day.

When i see these high paying pros still running fs7 m2 and shotting tv shows to documentary on them😅 and the images they got is better than most fx3/6 users. i seriously dont see how they are going back to canon 😊 sony managed to impose that their modern look as the standard for what looks pro... its like on a subconscious level, your audience relate to the pro look even though sony dont have the best colors! I tested that with some clients n even my family members that have zero knowledge in videography. Everyone chose sony vs bmd or even panasonic vlog! I even created a node tree to make bmd6k match my fx3 and got compliments that i managed to raise my quality 😅

I wonder if FX6 mark 2 will crash C400? :D Looks like we might get mark 2 this year actually.

FX6 has full size XLR 7:57 7:59 in the handle but none on the body. What are you talking about?

Canon in the Equivalent of apple in practicality.

Me watching these videos of a product way out of my league 😂

the FX6 has full sized XLRs... on its handle 🤮 I'd muuuuch prefer mini XLRs on the body and just pack some converter cables if shooting with a soundy (who should have their own if they're worth their day rate) rather than have the XLRs mounted on the handle but yes it is a very late release from canon, I too switched to sony (just FX3 currently), but am seriously considering jumping back for the C400.. coming from a C70 also, the sony image is fine but really loved the C70 IQ.. will sony release an FX6ii? interesting times

Canon got so cocky and waited too long

Just curious will you be switching back to canon?

7:01 no disrespect to you, my friend, but this is how you know you got amateurs talking about things they have no idea. If you hire a sound guy, most likely they will have their own mixer and will be recording independently from your camera.

What fx6 has xlr in body rubbish they couldn't even fit a 3.5 jack so it has nothing xlr top handle you can use a tascam????

Canon Killed themselves...sooo many people switched to Sony. That all started with the R5...they HAVE to Release like 10 new Cameras/Lenses this year to get people to switch back.

Sound quality here is really annoying ...

I think Sony still has more to offer and I will be switching in 2025. As a freelancer, I work with more Sony teams than Canon and I need to be able to fit in their already established workflows and not change things up by making it harder for them by showing up with a different brand. For me personally, there are just too many red flags with the c400 to keep investing in Canon. I just don't think Canon can truly keep up. This is the camera that should have launched the RF not the c70. This camera is inappropriately late, but you'll have Canon loyalists defending it all day long. Triple base iso sounds really dope, but Sony's Mi shoe is way more enticing for me. The ability to record audio with no cables? Now that's game changing! I just wish the fx6 body had an Mi shoe so you could remove the top handle if needed for gimbal work.

If canon use USB C could could they use Blackmagiv New USB C view finder?

Hi! Thanks for good videos. Which monitor do you use? /Greetings from Sweden

Canon has long proven themselves to be the King of Toothpaste Squeezer in terms of offering technologies and features in their products, a very bad business practice and is unkind to their loyal customers.

Canon has loose their reputation, im canon user from 10 year an nobody want a canon camera in 2024, Everybody want a sony camera, even the photographer switching from 5D series to sony. No innovation, Rf lens fully closed and uncomplete. Nonsense on cinema division, big compromise for any camera their building today, even the quality of construction is compromise from R series and feel cheap. i plan to sold my R5 and R6 to Buy an FX3, Canon hasn't an equivalent, where is the 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 1.4 ? very sad

the canon crippelhamer.....

Looks like theres denoising artefacts on Canon's promo short film video at 1.25 and 1.28. fairly terrible on the blue light...not sure if that happens on Sony. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/md-VdMlmuKypqJs.html

I saw the release and was very unimpressed given the hype. Very happy to have adopted Sony years ago.