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Canon XA10 Field Test with Sample Footage

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TheCameraStoreTV

TheCameraStoreTV

Күн бұрын

Once again the TCS crew run a brand new camcorder through a rigorous field test. This time, the Canon XA10 gets tested on an ice climbing expedition led by Ian Greant. Check out how the XA10 performed, and how it compares to its big brother, the XF 100.
Special thanks to Ian Greant, Stephen Lemmer, and Sean Chamberlain
Shot and Edited by Jordan Drake

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@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 11 жыл бұрын
No, the parts with Chris talking were filmed with a 5D MK II. Only the parts labelled 'XA-10 Footage' were filmed on the XA10. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@sqadron2386 The Camera was shot with an Audio Technica Shotgun mic on the XA10. The speaking portions were shot with a 5D Mk II with an Audio Technica Lav recording into a Zoom H4n recorder. We also used a Cinevate Atlas 10 slider for any mobile shots. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@autokinisimag We didn't encounter any rattling problem, but we had the bolts locked down tight. The stabilization is very effective, especially the Powered IS, but only use the powered S for static shots where you are not moving or panning. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@funniq
@funniq 12 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the Canadians ... a free, openminded and liberated question AND answer .... Kudos !!!! Hugs from Holland :)))
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@Fender82097 We are using an Audio Technica AT-803 Lavalier mic, running into a Zoom H4n. The XA does not have a built in fisheye effect, but you can mount a fisheye adaptor onto the 58mm front filter. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@TheRubberskin Manual exposure. My exposure was off on the slider shots, largely due to not being able to get to the viewfinder. I choose not to grade the footage in our camera tests, to give you an idea what the camera will produce out of camera. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@ErnieCosmo You have 24P & 30P recording. This video was shot at 30P. We used the Cinevate Atlas 10, currently my favourite short slider on the market. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@ZachDrakeVids The rest of the video was shot with the 5D Mark II, which created the shallow depth of field. The XA-10 can only give you shallow depth of field when shooting off the telephoto end. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@cubeproduktion A comparison is pretty easy in this video. All the shots of Chris or I talking to the Camera were shot with a 5D, and the XA10 shots are indicated in the bottom right. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@sesukaku1 We cut on Final Cut Pro or Premiere CS5.5, depending on the camera. This was cut on Final Cut Pro 7. iMovie 09 and 11 support the files from the XA10. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
Most current DSLR and the XA10 shoot in 8-bit 4:2:0 colour space. The exception is the Nikon D4 and D800 which allow 4:2:2 recording through external devices. For better grading ability, look at the Canon XF100. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@PallidBoy We used an XA10 when indicated, a 5D mark II with a 17-40 F4L and Zeiss 50mm F1.4 for Chris' speaking parts, and the new Sony CX700 for slow motion shots. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@vidsontherun1 No, the XA10 only shoots in 24/30/60i. The slow motion samples were shot with the Sony CX700.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
XA-10 footage is editable on almost all current entry level programs, like iMovie, Adobe Premiere Elements, Sony Vegas, and Pinnacle Studio. For XF series footage, you need a current version of Adobe Premiere Pro CS, Apple's Final Cut, or Avid Media Composer. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@wonderwall135 The depth of field is larger than on the HF S21, due to the slightly smaller sensor (1/2.5" vs 1/3". However, with longer focal lengths, the lens/sensor combination is capable of nice shallow depth of field. A great example is the shot of Chris with frosty breath in our XF105/XF100 hands-on. The shots with Chris talking were shot with the 5D Mk II, and the slow motion was shot with the new Sony CX700. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@SiggyProductions1 The files will drop seamlessly into Final Cut Pro X. For FCE and iMovie you will need to transcode the files, but this is done right within the software.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@madmotioncom This was shot in manual white balance, and exposed for the faces. We could have graded the images to recover more detail in the snow, but decided to show unprocessed footage so it was more indicative of the images right out of the camera. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@FrodoDojo The touchscreen was tricky because I was also wearing gloves. I'd love more external controls, but that's the price of such a small body. But there's always the XF100.... Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@wonderwall135 The XA10 footage was not colour corrected or graded, to give an accurate impression of the files out of camera. It is a 1/3" sensor, so depth of field will be very large. The Camera Store has a Vimeo account where raw camera footage will be uploaded. If you are only interested in unedited sample footage, that is the place to look. Our edited, narrated video will remain on KZfaq. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@pokemonhat HD video is only 2 megapixels. The extra pixels are just used for still capture. A lower pixel count actually improves video quality. The only reason you would want a high megapixel camera is for still capture. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@Laughosity Absolutely, it shoots standard AVCHD files. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@g2theb It was a bright day, I wouldn't expect much image noise. As this was a pre-production camera, we used the default settings. There was no grading on the images. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@saintangerinc Absolutely. I wouldn't not use a tripod for a lot of shooting and this camera has a standard tripod thread. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@brynmag
@brynmag 10 жыл бұрын
Quick Question: Where did you get those Mittens? I am always having to take off my gloves to operate my cameras. Those mittens would make life so much easier.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 11 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not. The only weather-sealed camera in this class is the great Sony NX70. Check it out if you're doing rugged shooting. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@sincitycyclops
@sincitycyclops 13 жыл бұрын
I am looking into the differences of this and the XF 100/105. Granted the price is the major difference but I want to produce commercials, music videos, wedding videos, and possibly some Indie films. I want to thank you for a very informative and very professional video here. It was great. Most review videos are very amateur and people look like they are reviewing something they just purchased and don't know how to use. Your vid is the most pro I have seen in a long time!
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@TomAndBonn I know! It's an Audio Technica AT875. It's a great, compact shotgun mic. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@ZachDrakeVids There is a 58mm filter thread for attaching a teleconverter. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
The XA10 has the same low light performance as the XF100, but the XF100 will allow you to edit the footage much more in post production. If you are streaming, however, you will get extremely similar results. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@96pnm It is a Sennheiser K6/ME66 mic. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@MichaelJMiller88
@MichaelJMiller88 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response! Much appreciated!
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@Maione685 Absolutely! Just use the Log & Transfer window. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@pinkcherryblossom15 Absolutely. Just pop the card into a reader and click the camera button. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@CHproduction94 Both have the same low light ability, however, if you use noise reduction software, the XF100 cleans up nicer due to its better codec. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@JediFarce There are a few other differences. The XA10 adds Infrared recording, 64GB built in memory, and a standard hotshoe instead of the proprietary Canon shoe. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@96pnm Just tried it. The NTG-2 will not be in the frame as long as it is pushed back so the edge of the foam is against the mic holder. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
Works OK in FCP7 and brilliantly in FCPX. This video was cut on FCP7. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, all framerates are supported natively.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
The XA10 would be a great porn camera, it's small, great and low light, and well stabilized. It's also small enough that it could be used as a prop... Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@yogamazing Depends on your requirements. I prefer the external controls, recording format, and zoom rocker of the XF100. Also, the XF100 doesn't have a viewfinder that shuts off if you apply any pressure to it... (I'm looking at you, XA10) However, the XA10 is a lot smaller, especially if you are not using the XLRs and touch screen AF does work very well. Personally, I find the XF100 to be well worth the price difference, but it depends on every shooter's needs. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@pinebarranch Final Cut Pro cannot natively work with the files from the XA-10, so it takes a long time to convert the files to ProRes. Final Cut X is much faster, however it will not run on an old G4 machine. You may just have to wait it out. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, the XA10 saves its files in AVCHD, the XF100 uses 4:2:2 MPEG 2 MXF files. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 11 жыл бұрын
Manual exposure was not functional on the pre-production XA-10 we used. That led to the awful exposures you see here. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 4 жыл бұрын
The first review of Jordan.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@2602SUNSET Yes and Yes. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@aaronjohnson1059
@aaronjohnson1059 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips about the camera.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
You'll have no problem working with XA10 footage with that setup. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@Gulliveck
@Gulliveck 13 жыл бұрын
@ErnieCosmo There is native 24p. There are also PF24 (2:3 pulldown) and PF30 (2:2 pulldown).
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 11 жыл бұрын
When shooting DSLR video, I record all our audio into a Zoom H4n recorder. For mics I use a Rode NTG-2 for a shotgun mic and Sony UWP-130 for wireless lavalier recording. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@GadgetVision Where in the video is this frauded theme? All our music is from Apple's Garageband except our opening theme, which is by the band Platinum Alibi, and I have full written permission to use their music. I'd say its more likely we both used the same Garageband loops. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@soccerstarshoes Yes, it shoots 1080P at 30 and 24 fps. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@t0m0ma5 I used the Log & Transfer tool in Final Cut Pro 7, and imported the footage as ProRes 422 LT. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@HazakyProductions We felt it.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@ArcticRc I assume you are in a PAL country? The PAL XA10 will only shoot 24P or 50i. The NTSC can do 24P, 30P and 60i. For 60P, you need to go up to the XF100 which shoots 720/60P Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@FrodoDojo All video formats going onto a computer must be compressed. The compression on new AVCHD cameras is as good or better than tape based compression. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@mschneiderg
@mschneiderg 12 жыл бұрын
It shoots in 25p (or 24p in the US) which is the minimum standard for TV broadcasting. Not for all channels though, some demand 50p, i.e. twice the frame rate. If you are making fiction films consider other cameras in this price range, especially if you want something that will primarily sit on a tripod.
@JediFarce
@JediFarce 12 жыл бұрын
@drakescz I forgot to mention, correcting your 'Canon red' flesh tones isn't really a problem when corrected in post. Just by desaturating, and slightly increasing the gama levels and maybe adjusting the white balance of the footage, this issue pretty much disappears in the editing software.
@kalargyi
@kalargyi 12 жыл бұрын
Chris has real balls to do the reviews in the wood for many times, does he live in the wood too?
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@finley2100 The XA10 has been delayed, I suspect due to the situation in Japan. I do not have an ETA at this time. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TimothyHalleran
@TimothyHalleran 10 жыл бұрын
Wow great footage!
@autokinisimag
@autokinisimag 13 жыл бұрын
What about the rattling problem of the buttons on the handle? Is that fixed by Cannon? Also I wanted to ask, is the camera's image stabilization system any good for handheld shots? Specifically for shooting sports etc. Thank you for your time.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@Buckie1985 Yup, two of em. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@herearesomethings The Legend by Platinum Alibi. Their album 'Funk Trunk' is on iTunes. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@VadimMyVideos
@VadimMyVideos 12 жыл бұрын
Hi, it's great footage, congrat! But one question: The slow motion parts of your video, is that shot by XA10 as well??? I know that this camera does not have 60fps - so it's not for slow motion. Right?
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@skiingisdabest123 The AF is very quick, which would be ideal for sports shooting. The Camera shoots 24P, 30P and 60i. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@yogamazing
@yogamazing 13 жыл бұрын
So do you think the XF100 is worth another grand or should I get the xa10 for run and gun shooting. I also own the Canon 7D and the Canon XHA1, will be selling the XHA1... thoughts
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@ArcticRc I far prefer the look of progressive video. All our videos are shot in either 30P or 24P. This video was shot at 30P. For some videos shot at 24P check out our videos, The Battle At F-Stop Ridge, The Desert, and The Expo Promo. I only use interlaced video for older editing systems.
@mschneiderg
@mschneiderg 12 жыл бұрын
In this price range, you may want to go for the Sony VG 20. You lose the XLR inputs, but it features interchangeable lenses, plus it has a much larger sensor. In other words, it has superior image quality with a lot of control over depth of field (throwing backgrounds out of focus). Check it out. I settled on the XA10 in the end because I found it better suited to my needs (documentary).
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
@MrTibbsLive That's an Audio Technica AT875. Great short shotgun. It's selling for $320 CDN.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@mortensaks Audio Technica AT875. Great compact shotgun. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@phantomofopera91
@phantomofopera91 13 жыл бұрын
@evelknievel2000 I think its a matter of the manuel settings. The exposure looked like it could be lowered a few notches which is definitely doable
@Morghu24
@Morghu24 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing- great video. How do you maintain the image quality when importing to editing softwares? It seems that my video quality is great when I'm looking at the Canon LCD screen but when I import it to Adobe Premiere on my PC, it seems the quality has definitely decreased...I've been reading some articles about AVCHD files ( have you ran into similar problems)??
@JediFarce
@JediFarce 12 жыл бұрын
@ConsumerDV I too owned the JVC GY Hm100, the sensor in the Canon G10 is superior and puts out nicer video images, not to mention it's lighter. Although, the controls on the Hm100 were at the prosumer level, the G10 is not a prosumer camcorder. The touch screen interface on the G10 sucks, while the Hm100 had a small joystick to manipulate the menu.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@daltonlee240 If you are into indie film, I would seriously look at an HDSLR like the Canon T3i. It gives a much more cinematic look than the XA10, and it will teach you some good techniques for focus and exposure. The XA10 is a great run and gun camera for documentary work, or less planned shoots. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@mvthew
@mvthew 13 жыл бұрын
@TheCameraStoreTV Thanks Jordan! I'm in the market to buy a Prosumer Camera. I was looking at the Sony NEX VG-10, Canon XA10 and Canon 7D. All cameras have there pros and cons but I'm not sure which one will be the best all around camera. Any ideas?
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@sqadron2386 The XF100 is a better camera, unless you need the smaller camera, or your editing software does not support 4:2:2 files. The XA10, however is $1000 less. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@JediFarce
@JediFarce 12 жыл бұрын
@drakescz Much like the DSLR's, you can turn down the Saturation down a notch in the picture styles settings. However, if the Xa10 is similar to the G10 you're restricted to -2 on each setting.
@autokinisimag
@autokinisimag 13 жыл бұрын
@TheCameraStoreTV Thank you for replying.
@soccerstarshoes
@soccerstarshoes 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering my question
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@avo7778 I would probably not recommend the XA10 as filmmaker's camera. It is more suited to documentary work. I would actually look a a DSLR like the Canon 60D or Panasonic GH2 for a great filmmaking camera in this price range. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@brain96969
@brain96969 13 жыл бұрын
@TheCameraStoreTV Thanks for the info!
@Powerkicker
@Powerkicker 12 жыл бұрын
Why did your shot of the deer get pixilation along the back? Looked not good compared to all the rest. Also, what did you use for sound in your video? It sounded very clean.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@MrCricutcrazy Absolutely, but you need iMovie version 09 or 11. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@josh2010hofland The XA10 would be a much easier camera for your friends to operate. The Sony has very shallow depth of field which makes focus trickier, as well as a manual zoom lens which is harder to operate smoothly. For documentary style shooting with inexperienced operators, I would certainly lean towards the XA10. Jordan @ The Camera Store
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
XA-10 footage will need to be converted, but iMovie does that automatically.
@danfr0st
@danfr0st 13 жыл бұрын
wow tough conditions for a camera test! Flat light and snow - even the most high end cameras would struggle! I know you mentioned briefly that the view finder seemed pretty sharp but I was wondering if you could give more info on your experience with the view finder as it seems to be the trend these days with manufacturers (even with their top of the line cameras) to have a sharp quality LCD and a poor unusable view finder. Thanks for the camera test footage.
@JediFarce
@JediFarce 12 жыл бұрын
@stefanhuang Here's the thing, you don't want "great color quality" straight out of the camcorder, you want something that can capture as Flat an image as is possible so it's easier to manipulate in post.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@ltsyourlife We got about 2 hours with the included battery.
@SavageLegacy28
@SavageLegacy28 13 жыл бұрын
Just a rule of thumb: If you're gonna upload test footage to KZfaq of a camcorder so people can see the quality, please don't edit and then render out the edited file to a lower quality than the camcorder/camera is able to record in, it helps the viewer (and potential buyers) see the full capability of the camcorder/camera.
@daratinnel32244
@daratinnel32244 10 жыл бұрын
awesome video and review and good camera
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
The camera was just set to daylight WB. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@omritaub12 You can connect any XLR mic.
@LZmiljoona
@LZmiljoona 13 жыл бұрын
omg cool location! I love climbing, but i haven't been doing ice climbing yet. Your videos alway impress me!
@daniellewatson5717
@daniellewatson5717 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome review
@FrostyBrows
@FrostyBrows 13 жыл бұрын
What camera were you using for this video cause that one looks awesome.
@merasanam
@merasanam 11 жыл бұрын
But what camera did you use to film the review itself? Because it's obvious you used a different camera than the one being tested.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 13 жыл бұрын
@pinkcherryblossom15 5D Mark II, or Sony CX700
@TimNik
@TimNik 11 жыл бұрын
Why are you all took up shooting test of this camera if in the end all the shots turned out badly overexposed? Or is it a feature of the camera? Snow generally get a flat as paper.
@72FRETS
@72FRETS 13 жыл бұрын
@GeneralOstrich its a royalty free soundtrack from apple, comes with imovie/garageband
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 11 жыл бұрын
The review itself was filmed on the 5D MK II.
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