Canyon Ultimate CF SLX 8 DI2 Review - Fast and fun, but what about value?

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Canyon Ultimate CF SLX 8 DI2 Review - Fast and fun, but what about value?

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@skidooboondocker Жыл бұрын

Love the honest no BS review! Keep it up.

@shred3005 Жыл бұрын

The better value in the new range is the CF SL Aero Di2. Get’s the same Ultegra 12s Di2, same integrated cockpit, deep DT Swiss wheels, same frame but with the heavier carbon layup (SL rather than SLX) so it comes in just 200 grams heavier than the CF SLX Di2 shown here. Most weekend warriors are going to be ok adding just 200g for essentially the same bike but save $2K I’m going this route to replace my 2016 Ultimate CF SLX which has been absolutely brilliant Bike but they were better value back in the day. But I’ve been so happy with the brand, geometry and feel of the Ultimate that I’m sticking with it. Not available until December. Can’t wait!!

@mszymkowski Жыл бұрын

Wheels in the cheaper model are DT Swiss ARC 1600 whereas in SLX 8 DI2 are DT Swiss ARC 1400 Dicut, but as you have said before, 99% of weekend warriors won't see any difference between them. Yeah, I also want to buy a new bike and no change I'm going to pay more only for a couple of grams less. As long as I get Ultegra Di2 for less I'm happy. After all, it's better to focus on strength and fitness than on spending money on 240 grams.

@torbenhenriksen4374 Жыл бұрын

It is 340 g. Better and lighter wheels and tyres. And the the colour Iced berry is beautifull. If you have the money go for CF SLX 8.

@shred3005 Жыл бұрын

@@torbenhenriksen4374 I currently have the previous model CF SLX 8 Ultimate. It’s mechanical Ultegra and didn’t have a power meter and it was less than half the price of the current CF SLX 8 (twice the price for Di2 power meter and Canyon inflation 😁). And the new CF SLX 8 is still 300g heavier than my old one at 6.9kg. Mind you, the old one didn’t come with deep carbon wheels either

@torbenhenriksen4374 Жыл бұрын

@@shred3005 my old bike was a cf slx 8 from 2010, it was then half the price. It was a very god bike and I was worried that my new bike, would be a upgrade, but it is worth every penny. It is stiffer, more comfortable, stabile, aero and got carbonwhells, disc brakes, electronic shifters, power meter. It gives me a much better ride. It is a dream bike🏆😁

@florianbusch3082 2 жыл бұрын

After the first excitement of announcement today, watching this review grounds me :D

@ssk2976 Жыл бұрын

The dealbreaker you didn't mention - worst part is that you will need an entirely new cockpit if it's not the correct stem length, which probably is not the right size out of the box... And it's not cheap to buy and replace it (even more so with the integrated cords) and will be lucky if they even have the right stem length cockpit in stock!

@oliverfuehrer Жыл бұрын

Comparing prices you have to consider that the Ultimate comes with pre-installed powermeters which will cost you around 400 to 800 euros (in my case)

@daryl4841 Жыл бұрын

The adjustable width handlebar is an extremely good move. For my height and narrow build most stock handlebars are too wide and this is an easy fix for those kinds of problems. For a brand that many bike shops are apprehensive to service though I'm not sure internal cables are going to be a good maintenence change though.

@randomname8442 Жыл бұрын

I'd much rather Canyon allowed us to specify cockpit dimensions with the order, for a fee if necessary. Stem length is obviously set so to get a bike the fits you exactly as you want you may need to swap out the whole thing at a large extra expense

@h.p.734 Жыл бұрын

Canyon went from value brand to specialized v2. Except that there are no brick and mortar shops for canyon. Canyon hit it's peak with the old Ultimate CF SL (now known as the SLX).

@jordibayer7474 Жыл бұрын

I am thinking to buy Ultimate CF SL 8 Aero which is pretty much the same and costs £4999. So what is your opinion? It is cheaper that the SLX. Thank you!

@xtianeskay5166 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Comparing to bike radar and cycling weekly I like your introduction of the new ultimate the most! (gcn is not my cup of tea at all)

@OffshoreNath 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a canyon Ultimate Al in 2014 (still have it) at the time Canyon were a breath of fresh air, an industry distruptor offer exciting bikes at great prices and specs, they've lost their way a bit I'm afraid. The bikes are a bit bland and they arent competitive price wise any more. Factor in the supply issues and online ordering/ lack of payment options and I'm struggling to see why anyone would go down that route ?

@bernardo9202 2 жыл бұрын

yeah that merida scultura is way better looking, aero improved and lower in price too in the budget categories

@hsiensational68 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree on all points.

@Max__apex Жыл бұрын

They sell wholesale which saves 60% overhead so y is it more expensive then giant who have shops 🤷🏻‍♂️🤬🤬🤬

@Timtimzi Жыл бұрын

Would you choose the Factor 02 Vam over this Canyon? Agreed that Canyon is having a lot of issues overall .

@krnone8057 Жыл бұрын

He is reviewing CF SLX version. For example CF SL with 12s Ultegra Di2, carbon DT wheels, carbon cockpit and seatpost and powermeter costs under 5k pounds. Tell me it is not great value bike.

@Druezy 2 жыл бұрын

I am waiting to order an Endurace 8 Disc AL. Looking forward to being able to ride around my new neighborhood and get in shape at the same time. It will be a fun comparison to my mountain bike that I downhill on lol. If I get into it I look forward to trying a carbon road bike. I had a carbon trail bike and loved it!

@buddhahat 2 жыл бұрын

I've had this model for the last 2 and a bit years, it has been great. First change was the tires, then recently a small upgrade to the wheel set after buckling the back wheel in a near miss with some inattentive pedestrians. Obviously you'll save a bit of weight when you upgrade to carbon in future, but it's good for what it is. Also great value to get an Ultegra groupset.

@a1white 2 жыл бұрын

Endurance option makes sense for most people, unless you actually race!

@Druezy 2 жыл бұрын

@@buddhahat Nice, I will probably leave it stock at least until the spring. It seems like really great value, I have been buying direct to consumer through YT for awhile now and really loved the bikes and entire process.

@Druezy 2 жыл бұрын

@@a1white I think so too. I am young so I am ok with something sorta racey, but I still want to be comfortable so I can get myself on it as much as possible.

@ndjk2821 Жыл бұрын

I love watching reviews on bikes I will never afford.

@aidanmasterson50 2 жыл бұрын

Best review yet.

@timdixo 2 жыл бұрын

10 watts faster at 45kmh!!! That figure has zero relevance to the vast majority of riders.

@Beinhartwie1chopper Жыл бұрын

5 watts with a rider

@hamedizzy5137 Жыл бұрын

If you road this bike I’m sure you can hold that speed!

@bikemirror6620 5 ай бұрын

Try joining races and you'll be surprised how easy the group goes to 45kph

@timdixo 5 ай бұрын

@@bikemirror6620 For sure holding 45-50kmh on a wheel in upper level racing is de rigueur but that's generally an atypical use case for most bikes purchased. I'd venture to say that due to challenges customising cockpit fit in current offerings results in a net increase in CdA for the average cyclist.

@bikemirror6620 5 ай бұрын

@@timdixo this bike is not for an average cyclist. So the majority of riders you are concern about should not even consider this bike. I don't know why you are complaining 😃

@a1white 2 жыл бұрын

Looks nicer in the purple colour-scheme option. Matte grey just looks so generic and dull now

@patpadil 6 ай бұрын

Difference with Specialized will be wheels and cockpit are in Alu for the same price as canyon

@troisminutesdumans7650 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to know if canyon accept stem length cunstomization

@GC987 Жыл бұрын

Good, honest stuff. Thanks.

@markusforrer1881 Жыл бұрын

Going for the new Ultimate CF SL Aero Di2. Delivers more value for 5k.

@shred3005 Жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m going for too to replace my 2016 Ultimate CF SLX

@edt6488 Жыл бұрын

So, when was this bike actually available to buy from Canyon in the UK?

@iwanta400ftp8 2 жыл бұрын

As a climber and Canyon Fan I say shut up and take my money. Only Shimano Dura Ace C36 would be nice. I think I will add it.

@simoncbr900rr 2 жыл бұрын

£6499😂😂😂😂…… I have a cfsl ultegra di2 from 2017,price was £2949 IT IS NOW 120% MORE EXPENSIVE THAN 5 YEARS AGO……..rip off

@MrBoggins1234 Жыл бұрын

I agree. Utter madness. I had no idea that the current Shimanos cheaper 105 Di2 groupset is £1700 wtf?!!!

@mohawkin 10 ай бұрын

Do you have any information to share concerning the claims that the seat post on the Ultimate can creak?

@kallewirsch7915 2 жыл бұрын

Funny that the computer mount you use has this strange angle. On the product pictures with the Canyon own mount it seems leveled.

@kallewirsch7915 2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure that 7x9 rails doesn´t fit to the seatpost, because the higher spec CFR comes with carbon rails saddles and a zero offset seatpost. This means the CFR versions should run 7x9?

@jeromebrachat300 Жыл бұрын

So does the cf slx 9…

@mohamadjamil3164 2 жыл бұрын

Canyon did a couple of wrong moves on the aero bike and the ultimate seems to be stuck in the past.

@quantumdecoherence1289 Жыл бұрын

I don't know what all the Canyon fan boys are drooling over with the Ultimate. Ever since GCN was sponsored by Canyon, people went apeshit over this boring design. And now that the value is not there, give me a sexy Giant Propel or TCR with better carbon and spec any day

@pigeonkill Жыл бұрын

"relatively good value for money when compared to some of its rivals' sounds like 'not that tall for a NBA center'

@ArteUltra1195 2 жыл бұрын

One of the blandest bikes to be released in the last few years. I have the Ultimate SLX from 2014 (!!) and there is no real desire to upgrade

@carlmlr 2 жыл бұрын

The comment on the angle of the Garmin mount is something I found annoying on the Aeroad too, I believe it has to do with the mount being universal for Canyon, but the new handlebars are angled at the bottom making the Garmin point up, instead of being flat on the older handlebars. I solved it with an aftermarket mount, but it's a bit stupid. Also, do they allow for swapping stem lengths yet, or do you just have to pray that the one the ship with your size bike is the right one?

@Benaan 2 жыл бұрын

3 years ago, I requested a longer stem for my Ultimate, and they swapped it for free because I did the request within a month after receiving my bike

@carlmlr 2 жыл бұрын

@@Benaan Yes I am aware that you could do this on the last gen. bikes, but so far swapping stems has not been possible for the new Aeroad

@Benaan 2 жыл бұрын

@@carlmlr Oh that sucks. Let's pray for better service lol

@PedaleurPat 2 жыл бұрын

Asked Canyon today ans no, you are not able to choose your stem size unfortunately

@robapuc Жыл бұрын

Can you help me telling which one you bought? Thanks

@SilverKnightVF 2 жыл бұрын

Well about value.. there is an ultimate SL ultegra di2 that is cheaper. The SLX model is more expensive

@noabert Жыл бұрын

Spent about 500 miles on it and so far so good. kzfaq.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA Pros:1. Very light2. Solid quality build3. Fast delivery: It arrived 5 weeks earlier than expected.4. Easy assemblyJust a few cons but nothing major:1. Cheap tin tubes and had flat on first day... but not a big deal. I replaced the tubes.2. Seat is a bit uncomfortable but that's pretty much the same situation with most bikes.3. Seat post is a bit long/high for a smaller size 48 bike - had to saw 2 inch off to fit properly. The lowest setting is too high. The post locking system does not seem to hold well (perhaps because I saw 2 inch off).4. wheels are not tubeless compatible (from what I can tell)

@andreemurray7039 2 жыл бұрын

Just build form frame ups I can pick and choose parts cheaper

@TroubleshootGamingMeds 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone I see a video like this. "Nice. Another bike I'll never buy. Moving on."

@albertoreinhardt Жыл бұрын

What frame size is it

@BohemiaMaster Жыл бұрын

Not sure what is the purpose of this bike. You can get Aeroad CF SL 7 for almost same money as Ultimate CF SL 8, it's Ultegra vs 105, yes, does it really make a difference? NO. The question is why would you want to buy same weight bike that is much less aero then the Aeroad, thus much slower overall. Plus hidden cables are on SLX + so for most of normal people that doesn't buy 10k+ bike every year it's irrelevant. Overall I get that it's "stiffer" more aero and other bullsh*t but who actually cares in the first place. But I can't really get my head around the marketing at Canyon 🤷‍♂️

@abastabul9115 2 жыл бұрын

I see one reason why 80% are not subscribed...

@irvingabbott6 Жыл бұрын

why do you guys hate canyon ?

@matthiasmoder9119 Жыл бұрын

why is this bike 130g heavier than it should? Canyon says 7.14 kg not 7.27kg

@roadcc Жыл бұрын

a manufacturer's claimed weight wasn't the actual weight? whatever next?!

@matthiasmoder9119 Жыл бұрын

@@roadcc for me that would be a BIG negativ point..

@mokotramp Жыл бұрын

Nice, but too much wonga! ✌️

@jedibusiness789 2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t think Brits had that much disposable income

@Timtimzi Жыл бұрын

Factor 02 Vam over this Canyon

@andrewjulio1495 Жыл бұрын

GBP 8,900 same specs as Canyon, VAM doesn't even come close to that value lol

@ethanlucas975 2 жыл бұрын

bit of a price hike.

@captainamerica1797 Жыл бұрын

It will give a burrito and worx bikes a run for their money!!! 15k is too much. Period. On the latter .

@schoebelski6602 2 жыл бұрын

well, yeah, not bad...mmh.

@NeoPayneHK 2 жыл бұрын

canyon made it again... what a ____...

@savagepro9060 2 жыл бұрын

Canyon is Ultimately getting uglier and uglier and uglier

@MrMaxusy 2 жыл бұрын

Why is 32mm tires 'welcome'? This is road race, not gravel. I don't know how much Canyon are paying you for this review but they are straying so far from what a road bike should be. It is supposed to be lightweight and not some gravelbike hybrid for double the price.

@roadcc 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Maxusy, all reviews on road.cc and our KZfaq channel are completely independent and are never paid for by the brand. The pros use everything from 25mm to 32mm tyres, so this is why Canyon has gone for this clearance. And for us, comfort generally leads to feeling fresher at the end of the day, so we're fans of the extra space.

@Abhitips224 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like a gravel bike. Is it also a gravel bike?