In the lore he’s apparently dumb, which is odd since he has an intelligence of 10

​@@Saito11797He's not dumb, rather arrogant

@@Saito11797the power armor assists in stats

Relatively* smart behemoth

You could just imagine if really tall humans like Frank came running at you *full sprint!* Yeah that would be terrifying…. except there WAS ACTUALLY HUMANS OF THAT SIZE AND EVEN TALLER THAN THAT at one point in history. which was probably like thousands or tens of thousands of years ago. But God annihilated all of them due to their spread of evil on earth. We even know those giant like people’s names and those, Add people (You could just imagine if really tall humans like Frank came running at you *full sprint!* Yeah that would be terrifying…. except there WAS ACTUALLY HUMANS OF THAT SIZE AND EVEN TALLER THAN THAT at one point in history. which was probably like thousands or tens of thousands of years ago. But God annihilated all of them due to their spread of evil on earth. We even know those giant like people’s names and those are, Add (or Ead people, has a specific pronunciation that English does not include nor support), Thamoud، Al-Eamaliq, Tasm, Jadis or Jadaes.

The one who died is the character, not Frank😂

I invested in Action Boy to run and fire, I also turned the nearby sentry guns to fire at him.

Chosen one would of most definitely got destroyed by frank if not for the turrets and enclave troops in power armor.

Well here the thing, even though he is tag in unarmed, he only does 5 damage. He would be much more efficient just to shot the chosen one

Frank doesnt believe himself to be a mutan, he has a whole body dysmorphophobia thing going out where he sees himself at normal. Besides realistically, a minigun would be better to take down someone shooting at you than running at them and smashing them.

To be honest, i think realistically frank would just be almost immune to bullets at that point, he has the cover of the best power armor in the game and the extremely hardened skin of a super mutant under it. Even after that he still needs to be severely damaged to stop fighting. I think one of the few ways to kill him would be to crush him with an extreme force.

​@@Trelauterpower armor being able to tank missiles and mini nukes and the fact hes a heavily modified supersoldier mutant behemoth would probably mean only an actual nuclear bomb (or maybe something a little less powerful but essentially on the same scale) could crush him

maybe not crush, burn him to a crisp or sumn

​@@veracantiArcade mentions Enclave armor should orotect the player from "anything short of a plasma caster" so that's a good basis for comparison.

In my play through I did it with the turrents and sgt granite along with Goris, Marcus, vic and sulik. I never attempted without the turrets before tho, but with turrets it’s a lot easier I’m guessing.

When you factor in the things your character is realistically meant to accomplish, you realize just how much more imposing you are than even the deadliest wasteland beast and killer. Frank was a genetically enhanced and trained soldier who went around slaughtering Vault Inhabitants and peaceful deathclaws. You get some training in a cave and suddenly you're Johnny McTribalChrist who can effortlessly traverse the wasteland and singlehandedly bring down entire factions. Frank is the most physically imposing Fallout antagonist, but he's still just an uber deadly combo of things you already face in the wasteland.

Actually you can't. I've tried. I did a whole run of Fallout 2 dedicated to bare fist fighting. Used every bug, perk and journal to the unarmed fighting. Strength was maxed out, unarmed skill was exceeding 200%. Chosen one was able to beat to death enclave soldier in mk2 power armor and a deathclaw in one-two turns with bare fists. When i faced Frank, i was able to break all his limbs, and disable his plasma cannon, but all my hits did zero health damage, and he was able to deal huge damage to me despite broken limbs. Had to use gauss rifle despite having low skill in guns, and almost run out of time. Frank was the only opponent i wasn't able to beat with bare hands.

​@@voidseeker4394Good to know so can you beat youtubers won't need this video

​@unfortunatecircumstances8870 you're also forgetting that this is an rpg and numbers are what matter. In game mechanics are not feats

@@kombatant2154 Numbers and ingame mechanics are the same thing. I'm talking about lore.

My headcannon, if not actually cannon, is its still powered armor. The servos in the legs would let him anchor easier when firing his WRIST MOUNTED MINIGUN

Tbf I doubt they could build anything that eould increase his strength beyond this.

@@tomdeneen4880 He’s just fat :troll:

How can you put it back together without a frame

@@actiniumanarchy9237 By bolting it onto his very flesh.

Yeah, you can convince the Control Company to help you take down Horrigan and escape. They were assigned to assist Horrigan in stopping the Chosen One from reaching the Tanker, which means they would have to be quite well skilled soldiers.

@@Sigma-gb9yd That's it, the Control Company! My bad lol

didnt have to tho, u can beat him on hardest difficulty with no hacked turrets and 0 party members and just eat everything and stim through it lol, chosen one is a beast

@@sander4656 as long as your AC and HP are high enough, but considering you can only carry one stimpak on you, and it costs AP just to open your inventory, I'm gonna say the odds are real fucking low without min-maxing the shit out of yourself. Edited because I had no idea the word "stimpak" autocorrected to "stomach" lol

@@hahano9586 it is easier than u think it did it my 1st time playing fallout 2 some years ago, just full tank build with highest dmg energy weapon and like 9 or 10 agility, need to use drugs tho or it becomes too much rng

The others?

​@@GeraltofRivia22The other 3 are all from New Vegas's Lonesome Road DLC. The main antagonist Ulysses, and the other two are Colonel Royez of the NCR, and Gaius Magnus of the Legion. You have to fight one of the two depending on which side you nuke in the DLC.

​@@azurediamondz7645you can nuke both the NCR and the Legion

@@Don_Gloverat the end of the Lonesome Road DLC

Not really intelligence, but the man's strength is 20

A pacifistic deathclaw who wasn't fighting back.

@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 if he can kill one, he can kill all

​@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 like fighting back would make any difference

@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 It does actually lmao. Hard to kill something when it's trying to kill you in return.

​@@unfortunatecircumstances8870are you forgetting he killed the whole ass vault of them? We only seen him rip apart 1

You where the chosen one. you where supposed to bring balance to the wasteland not destroy it. You where supposed to destroy the enclave not join them. You where the Chosen one. I Trusted you you where in the brotherhood for the brotherhood. - Knight Ben I hate you, I hate you, I never trusted you - Chosen one

silver tongued devil; intelligence that'd make a computer cry, agile like a cat, there could be many conclusions. but to be frank, (pun not intended) I think they only knocked him out. even with all the firepower the had, he was a walking tank with the drive to not die by what anyone had -- except for maybe the self destruction of the oil rig, now THAT is what i find is what really killed Frank.

@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 bro how did we even supposed to knock him out 💀💀💀

@@reukem the obvious of overwhelming firepower; you know, what the game has you doing and whatever you did in the game.

​@@CallofDutyBlackOps28i mean depending on the ending the chosen one damn near kills frank then frank leroy jenkins the entire platform.

Not a behemoth though hes still smaller than one, more like a taller super mutant overlord

​@@VengeanceLNA Giga-Mutant, if you would

No, Frank Horrigan is the same size of super mutant behemoths which they are 12 feet tall

He's shorter than the fallout 3 behemoths but he's the same size as the fallout 4 ones

​@@reddfeather8007that's because the ones in 3 are fucking massive

The fusion reactor he shot him in the reactor and he got ganged by the Guards and gun turrets

same here; i figure the oil rig explosion is what did him in.

I used the Fallout 2 Bozar which was a sniper rifle, that due to bugs became a highly accurate machine gun.

@@Damienx247 shame that NV bozar is okay at best.

He was shot so much that the power armor he was wearing got destroyed, causing it to blow him apart.

Every Fallout Protag: Imma pretend I didn't hear that.

​@@unfortunatecircumstances8870the other protags wouldn't have been able to take on frank, the only reason he even died/the only wounds he sustained was because his power armor got demolished went haywire and snapped him in half before crushing his skull a minute later

@@lucasramey6427 "They wouldn't be able to take on frank" Prove it.

These mines I've been saving the whole game beg to differ.

he is a tank. gottem.

Bro is the battle ship

Dude, he could probably tear the turret off of a tank

Sharpened spear, since he stole his aunts :D

Compared to the biggest recorded adult african savanna elephant male which is 13 feet tall. Frank Horrigan along with his 12 feet size and custom enclave power armor with cybernatic enhancements could make him reasonably weight 8 tons or more

holy shit how light is that armor

Him and the Master would be terrifying if both those games are remade that would be epic

Someone actually is remaking Fallout 2 in Fallout 4 engine. It looks INCREDIBLE.

@@lexecomplexe4083 yeah like projects like that ever see the light of day

​@@casualcookin3893 if previous large scale modding projects are anything to go on about, I am looking forward to Frank Horrigan talk about his stinky feet...

​@@NoFluI know exactly what you're talking about and I hate that I do

Eh, realistically Frank wouldn't stand a chance against someone like Chosen One. You say "plot armor" i say "combat experience" considering we only ever see Frank slaughtering non combatants. Who in the game does Frank kill thats even remotely comparable to us? Aka, a decent fighter and not a bunch of vault dwellers? Both power armor and super mutant skin are susceptible to armor penatrating rounds, so if anything it's Frank with the plot armor with how wanked he gets lol

⁠@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 he’s 12ft tall has a minigun attached to his armour skin and is the super soldier the FEV was meant to make frank only died because his armour became too damaged the chosen one canonically needed a squad of the strongest enclave and all the turrets and even then only the chosen one and Marcus survived

@wowngh1778 He still canonically died to the Chosen One. And since there's no canon ending for 2, the Chosen One could have either jumped Frank with turrets and a squad of enclave soldiers, or he could have just straight up punched him to death. Both are valid. Just because you think he's cool does not mean he's literally unbeatable. What the devs said before holds little weight. They no longer hold any creative control over the lore. 3 more mainline games have been released with expanded weapons and lore. Honestly, I doubt he could contend with the far more advanced Giant Roboscorpion considering he got taken down by some military turrets and an enclave squad. Your logic makes no sense either way. You weren't supposed to be able to beat Adam Smasher in the original cyberpunk tabletop game. Does that mean Smasher>=Frank by your logic? Cuz again, canonically? Frank is dead, and all we know is it's because of the Chosen One. Now prove that the Chosen One is stronger, or the other protagonists are far weaker. Otherwise your only point is "BUT MUH DEVELOPERZZ!!" When they haven't worked on a fallout project in years.

@wowngh1778 This whole argument is you going, "Trust me, bro. The devs said he was unbeatable, so he is, bro. Frank is literally the strongest and the best" This isn't a "debate" because the evidence you have is outdated. I've stated why Frank would realistically lose, the later protagonists have enough fire power and experience to deal with Frank. Would it be easy? No. But if the Lone Wanderer can singlehandedly take over a mothership from the inside and complete a war simulation with tanks and spider drones, he can take on Frank. If the Courier can take on and kill the Giant Roboscorpion, Quarry Junction, and the Divide, he can take on Frank. You wanna debate? Debate that. Otherwise stop with the fanboying and headcanon.

Reductionist pessimism. Does the thought of fun and immersion really piss you off that much?

Not only custom armor, his armor is a PART of him. As in, it is bolted onto his skin and he got a bunch of tubes in him keeping him from dying

@@AHHHHHHHH21, 😬

He literally rips Deathclaws to death with his bare hands, Pre-NV!

Well here’s the thing, according to the Enclave, Horrigan is the first instance of FEV doing what the US military wanted it to do, which was create super soldiers. Horrigan was the first, and last proper super soldier created by FEV, while all the others had turned into super mutants, with varying results as to intellectual capability.

@@decimation9780 that's interesting given that technically he is a super mutant behemoth

@@I-AM-EL-ZOZO Technically, yes. However Horrigan got really lucky, as he had all of the right genes to become a proper super soldier, rather than a super mutant like everyone else. Most super mutants either have some sort of deformity, usually in the face, or extremely stunted intelligence, and even the behemoths have some sort of deformity, seen in the East Coast behemoths that have deformed torsos and an underdeveloped arm, or the west coast behemoths that have basically lost all higher thought processes in exchange for overwhelming physical strength. Horrigan on the other hand has increased physical strength, enhanced durability, enhanced stamina, increased intelligence, as well as growing in size. And unlike a lot of the super mutants we see, which either have green skin or a sort of pale reddish brown skin, Horrigan has a sort of pale dark grey skin instead, which means he’s likely the only known individual that the FEV has turned into a super soldier, which was why the Enclave was so invested in his continued existence, asides from him basically leading the entire faction because, well let’s face it, their then president was an idiot who was clearly just meant to be a figurehead.

@@decimation9780 damn, I really need to dip my toes in the original fallouts after reading that. Incredible

​@@I-AM-EL-ZOZOanother note his armour was a sort of life control system keeping him from mutanting out of control and dying.

A mod?

@@Dreadbringer Sadly I found no such mod it's an RP thing I used to do now it's mostly reserved to a TABS faction

Nobody cares about your dumb role play in fact its really fucking weird

Are you kidding? Adam is the Frank horrigan from cyberpunk And he even cant feel as a threat for 2 reasons Not good final battle In a world Who everybody is a killer and speak isnt a option Does have the height of being an actual psycho He just feels like a sub boss of fallout. Doesnt even feel like a threat or deal Frank could crush A FUCKING DEATHCLAW with his bate hands on one hit and even devs say beating Him is literally plot armor lol

​@@LegoHalo Adam Smasher was around in the original TTRPG before Fallout was even conceptualized

@@LegoHalo adam was a thing before frank was even thought up, the cyberpunk brand is old as fuck

@@vortiger7375 doesnt Change my point that Frank is better being the threat of his World, not like Mr "I told a narco kid he gave me a worthy fight besides he didnt do anything besides run and try to do something"

@@LegoHalo can frank slow time ? no ? oh okay

Aint luck if he literally outplayed him in every turn. You can also beat frank with your bare fists, people only assume its with the utmost difficulty because they want a cool enclave character to wank. Everything he does in game isn't impressive. He's physically very powerful, able to rip apart deathclaws with his bare hands. However that deathclaw wasn't fighting back, and we only ever see Frank slaughtering non combatants like Vault Dwellers. At that point in the story, the Chosen One would easily be more experienced in survival and combat training. Even if Frank has the technological edge (which he doesn't if he can't even activate the base's turrets to help him) not once has he ever fought someone even comparable to the Chosen One.

El Gigante is significantly larger than Frank and more comparable to an actual Super Mutant Behemoth, which Frank is not. He's an exceptionally large super mutant, but he isn't a Super Mutant Behemoth, who suffer from unbalanced body proportions and mental degeneration.

i thought that too. like bro you're the mutiest mutie ive ever seen at this point

I mean I don't care how big you are a missile launcher is a missile launcher and the chosen one is no slouch at the end of the game so it was a 10 v 1 best possible scenario with some of the best weapons in the game and you don't technically actually kill frank horgan you just disable his life support which causes his body to slowly rip itself apart so I see it being possible to win just very unlikely

i think Frank could fight one and win easy, just because of the power armor abilities.

Yeah, they are a bit above 6 meters tall (6.5m or 20 feet). Although they are that big by mistake. Because if we see the karts and hydrants they use, the proportions are exaggerated. If we tone them down to have the proportions of the karts and hydras on a normal size, they'd still be 5 meters tall (15 feet). So 3 feet bigger than Horrigan.

Frank Horrigan is what would happen if you dipped, say, Legate Lanius in FEV.

​@@absolutezerochill2700or the vault dweller... Thats an ending you can get afterall

@@tomdeneen4880 the vault dweller seemed to become a normal, albeit probably more intelligent super mutant. Frank Horrigan was 12 feet tall.

Makes even the Doom Slayer jealous

Prorbably the most Physical Badass of the series. That dude was ripping Deathclaws apart bare-handed

"You underestimate my PoWeR-ArMoR" - Arch Dornan

​@@user-texgen you moron! You underestimated my power armor!

I had a stroke trying to read this

You assume the brotherhood of suck were the hero's They weren't They care only about themselves

Lmao pretty sure even the Lone Wanderer could wash Frank, let alone the Chosen One.

​@@unfortunatecircumstances8870lmao no even the courier would have a difficult time with him. The only hope would be the couriers space laser.

​@@Sauerkraut404Idk man not much could get close let alone see and kill my courier. Anti material rifle plus explosive ammo goes brrr.

@@Sauerkraut404Anti-material rifle is .50 BMG, that’s going to penn power armor both in game and in universe

​@@Sauerkraut404"YOU ACTIVATED ARCHIMEDES?!"

Lmao power armor isn't indestructible. Most actually break under heavy munitions fire, and the skin of a super mutant isn't bullet proof. Feels like you're heavily downplaying every fallout character while propping up Frank for some weird reason. Horrigan spends the game killing people who don't fight back. He killed that vault of deathclaws because they were nonviolent and explicitly disobeyed the Enclave's wishes. The chosen one by the time he's reached the Oil Rig has traversed and conquered the wastes with his own skills. You could argue that he cheated with the turrets, but if Frank had ten intelligence why didn't he just activate them? Frank is probably the most wanked dude in the entire series, and that has to be because of "BIG POWER ARMOR MUTANT WIT GUN GO BRRRRR" but honestly I find characters like Ulysses, Father Elijah, the Think Tank, and even Lanius all more imposing and deadly than Frank. Dude has the military backing him and still fails to take out a tribal who's not even been alive as long as Frank. The Think Tank aren't fighters but have technology that can reshape the entire wasteland without them even considering the damage. Big brutes with guns are scary, but at the end of the day it isnt "plot armor" when we show up more experienced with a team of allies and shit tons of equally advanced guns. People act like the Chosen One would just hurl spears at Frank and not blow his exposed joints off with a 50. Cal (which canonically peels open power armor like a shredder)

@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 Never claimed PA was indestructiblr and that Super Mutants skins were bulletptoof. But PA IS the best prptective armor, and Super Mutants skin IS thicker than normal. Much thicker. That is a fact. And Frank was indeed a fore to be reconed with. All those names you mentioned: Lanius, Ulysses, etc. They'd all fall against Horrigan in a 1v1. And it IS plot armor. Not just with Horrigan, but everything else. The fact that the tribal that took out Frank, took out thr entire Enclave, IS plot armor.

@@maxwella.gamingps4631 You're making claims with no evidence behind it. Sure, you can say Horrigan beats everyone 1v1, and I can say Ulysses beats him 1v1 and it holds the same weight. Name someone that Frank fought that actually fights back. I can list off several reasons why the people I've listed have more combat experience and weaponry to take him down. Hell, the Chosen One can beat Frank with his bare fists. So you can say "plot armor" all you want but that's just you making excuses for one particular character lol. If the Chosen One has plot armor, so does Frank who was an average Enclave soldier before he became a slightly above average super mutant. Why did Frank grow stronger and more intelligent than any other experiment? Plot armor. Why didn't he go mentally insane like everyone else? Plot armor. Why doesn't he get ripped to shreds by deathclaws who canonically can peel through power armor like cheese? Plot armor.

@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 You want evidence on a hypothetical fight? Lmao that is some desperate reaching right there buddy. Frank wins based on feats, scaling and logic alone. You claim Frank killed things that didnt fight back? The Deathclas do fight back. You have two of the best examples i Xarn and Goris, who are just as deadly as regular deathclaws. Just because they are a peaceful community, doesnt mean they just stood there and let Horrigan slaughter them withour consequence. Horrigan tore through them with ease, because he was stronger and tougher than them. And yes, the chosen one won due to plot armor. He literally beat an army of soldiers with better power armor and tech than even the BoS had, and he is just a tribal. The same thing can be said by the others. How does a meere Vault Dweller beat an army of Super Mutants, who are stronger, faster and tougher than humans? How does a Lone Wanderer beats both, an army of Super Mutants AND the Enclave? How does a mailman beat an army of tribals that were fiercely trained ala roman style, inckuding their 7 foot tall general who was already battle tested? How does a meere army vet defeat a cybernetically enhanced mercenary withover 100+ years of experience, and an android that was built to hunt and destroy/retrieve other androids, which are alred superior than normal humans? Plot armor. They are the MC, and tht is the only rrason they won. Yes, you are right, Frank Horrigan is the way he is due to plot convinience as well. But he isnt an MC now is he? He doesnt have THE plot armor the MCs have. Plot dictated he was smarter, taer and tougher than normal super mutants, and then the enclave enhanced him cybernetically, and cladded him in advanced power armor, the same way the plot dictated that Ulysses be the lone survivor of his tribe and can defeat marked men with ease. That being said, logically, using feats and scaling, Horrigan squashes effortlessly.

​@@maxwella.gamingps4631 this guys gonna say ur glazing frank when hes glazing the chosen one just as hard. The devs even said you could only beat frank because you have to to progress the game

Frank is one of very few characters to have 10 in all SPECIAL categories, which contradicts the canon of Frank having low intelligence.

I mean, the Chosen One beat him at that’s that.

Probably that one modder who is remaking Fallout 2 in FO4

No power armor is immune to heavy munitions. The main perk of power armor was that it allowed soldiers to use heavy guns while shrugging off small arms fire. Frank isn't an indestructible terminator. Behemoths can be blown up like any other mutant, and frankly I'd say the Chosen One actually has more combat experience than Frank, who we only see killing peaceful inhabitants of vaults.

​@@unfortunatecircumstances8870you see him casually murder a deathclaw with his bare hands

@@sussinhardrn1048 Yeah, an intelligent pacifist deathclaw. My point still stands.

@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 A deathclaw. One of the most rugged, structurally durable creatures in the wasteland. His strength alone should show just how unstoppable the guy really is. The OG devs even said he's really only killed due to the plot. Now sure, could the chosen one pull some squad of vertibirds raining missiles on him for hours? Yeah, and that would eventually drop his ass. But homie, he's genuinely the single most powerful living thing in the fallout universe. Imagine for a moment that his fusion core was covered with a layer of armor itself. Chosen one and sigma squad wouldn't have had enough time to wail on him before he got annoyed, and punched a hole through their chests.

Chosen one on that dracula flow

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

FOR THE EMPEROR

​@@CallofDutyBlackOps28SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

​@@SwedishBroManDude He's more of a Thunder Warrior, really. Or a smart Ogryn. Possibly a stunted Krork.

​@@CallofDutyBlackOps28RAD FOR THE RAD GOD!!!