Until you said it, I would have sworn tempest shield does indeed have a line "this damage cannot be reflected".

The crazy thing about this for me is that you figured out what killed you. I would be absolutely clueless like I'm on most of my deaths.

Dying to Reflect on a Chaos DoT build is like getting fired on your day off 😂

Some of the water creatures have abilities that hit 30 times a second so tempest shield was really doing the work !

I also thought: wait, wasn't there a line cannot be reflected? But maybe it always just was unnoticeable 3.16 Change: "Now has Deals 38 to 115 Lightning Damage at gem level 1 (previously 24 to 26), up to 896 to 2688 at gem level 20 (previously 284 to 426)." You feel that

GGs! Glad you're sharing the learning!

mad respect for the runs, looking forward to more hc action

great analysis, thank you!

It just feels like tempest shield damage is already reflected damage and thus would not be able to be reflected again. (Like molten shell) Oh and according to the wiki reflect can be mitigated by block, suppression, evasion and spell dodge (if applicable to the thing being reflected)((based on a 2014 forum post by mark_ggg))

The first character I ever got to level 100 was a CoC Forbidden Rite and tempest shield made that process very annoying on reflect maps lol. My buddy asked me "Why not just turn it off?" and to that I replied "because Im stupid". I had never really thought about tempest shield dealing enough damage on ele reflect maps to kill me. But once he said that and I tested it, I never died on ele reflect maps again.

Tempest shield has reflected in a long time. I remember dying with it in 3.17 on my COC FR (in softcore) thats how i found out

Thank goodness there's a death log that helps you learn from your mistakes!

Thats why I LOVE those indepts death reviews I didnt knew Tempest Shield could be reflected

That demonstration is like 10 percent of what was attacking you with delirium

Glad to see you enjoying hcssf. I gave it a try this league as well and had a lot of fun. I would like to see a creator put together a list of ways to die. From common ways such as accidentally leaving res uncapped or not understanding boss fight mechanics, to this death and other uncommon deaths. A couple more examples: Reflect from phys taken as Invisible mechanics after reentering a boss fight Failing to read mods in each delve biome the route passes through I lost a character this league because I forgot to read the random mods on a breachstone and it rolled two phys as extra ele mods. HC is a mental game. It feels like more often the deaths are due to mental errors rather than being outplayed.

Wow I never considered this, very useful video. I too thought it stated damage could not be reflected? Guess I need to watch out for Tempest Shield on reflect maps

Brooo that's rough

you even died to reflect like zizaran. so fitting lol

as a noob, i enjoyed following along the ssf journey learning a thing or two

4:35 your healthbar moves. imagine the same scenario with hasted souleaterish mobs :S

seemed shield sharge , but tempest shield will also happily do the job

I'm sure that you are aware but you can use brutality to remove the damage flame dash, not sure if it works on tempest shield but I guess it should work.

I'm kind of proud to see you're shifting into hc more. You have the right attitude for it. Just get back on the horse.

I started playing HC after I got bored in SC, It was a lot of fun, there were so few people playing HC at that point it felt more like a private league and you had to SSF most of the stuff you wanted. It is a lot of fun trying out HC, I feel like my game knowledge greatly improved, especially in regards to defenses. Ended up getting all my watchstones and ripped my last 2 chars to aspirational content, which is how I wanted to die. I couldn't kill The Feared (ripped my str stacker) or any of the Ubers, that's for next league.

Tempest shield bounces 👍

Old HC trick is to link flame dash to brutality. It should work with tempest shield as well. I dont use it as sc player, But you should try it.

Maybe herald of thunder has anti reflect, not sure. But I dont remember tempest shield to have anti reflect on it.

That's some Sherlock Lance sh1t there...

Oof rough RIP man.

Just another indication playing hardcore is signing up to waste your time. GG lance.

lmao some of us had similar scenario happening to them

Can someone explain why reflect is even in the game at this point It’s such an archaic bullshit stat. It’s not interesting or engaging. It’s literally a checkbox. If you overlooked it in the mod line, you die It COULD be fine if we weren’t doing damage that was 100000x our health pool, so even .1% reflect would kill us

It might be a waste of socket but you can link void manip with tempest shield

I had the same experience and it was so frustrating until I realised Tempest Shield was killing me. I knew it had to be reflect because it was the only common factor when it kept happening but it took way too long for me to even think it could be an "aura".

Chaos dot lets go ! How did you level your char up?

sorry , but I just laughed hard when I saw you using tempest shield after reading the title.. This happend to me in sentinal on a coc forbidden rite char and it took me 5 portals until I recognized that tempest shield actual kills me in reflect maps

ye that docks mob hits like shavrone on a +12proj b2b lol

Think the strongbox also procced "Conductivity" briefly on you, tho I assume you probably have enough reduced curse effect to mitigate that.

I loooove Chaos Dot Trickster and last time I tried that it sucked IMO. But your build seems to be reaaalllly tank and comfy. Question 1: how much DPS did you have to clear maps? Question 2: map bosses, were they easy? Question 3: if you didn't use Balabala, what would you use? Question 4: would you recommend it for a League Start scenario having in mind fun and comfyness above performance and money making? Luv your videos ever since the pantless aurastacking video.

Checking the wayback machine/internet archive, Tempest shield has never had reflect protection. You could have been assuming it was a secondary/reflected damage, similar to how Molten shell works in it inherently having reflect protection due to it dealing reflected damage.

Pohx died same way to frostblink being overleveled lmao

Are you going to try jung's league?

Most of GGNoobs dmg was Tempest Shield.

i wish they would delete reflect mod entirely

And thats why i never ever use tempest shield for a good reason.

Well, you could just roll a map with reflect and test it out in standard if you die there, too. But damn, I thought no. 3 was the one, RIP.

dying to tempest shield is so goofy lmao

F good run lance

0:32 these girls hit like shotgun truck, and yet you took 0 dmg nor to them nor to reflect are you sure you died to reflect? since ed+cont build lacks ele damage?

Sadeg

Good job getting to 10 minutes

for someone who appreciates the defensive mechanics as much as you im surprised that you dont play HC more often

Wait, that's not cold dot.

when I have mana left for reservation and socket, I use void support

NOW

You could link Brutality to your Tempest shield so it deals 0 damage. You'll have to resolve your mana reservation change for it, but it will make you reflect immune again

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Honestly, this game can kill any build nowdays... I play only tanky builds and I really hate dying, still happens very rare, but it does...

Did you not have Purity of Elements on ? That should've mitigated your self damage.

Reflect really shouldn’t be a thing in this game. it’s such a boring mod, you either die or don’t so binary.

reflect is the most skill dependent and interesting mechanic in poe I wish they would never delete this

Why didnt he cast his ability? He had a mental stun lock. Most of the mobs were getting 1 shot

Next time, Links tempest shield with brutality for reflect inmunity on reflect >D

ты умер из за проклятия которое накладывают монстры а на второй карте ты стоишь под алтарем да круто))))))))но там нет проклятия и тебе сносят половину энергощита чему ты удивляешься вообще ? + монстры после воскрешения получают бафы на скорость и урон от сундука

Brutality?

Brutality Support, 140 mana multiplayer,anyone buys it?

Another point to NEVER playing hardcore.

Void manip

17k phys max hit with Immortal Call off

Hey.. maybe its time to leave SC for a bit and just straight up join us in HC Trade next league?

Can GGG just delete reflect form the game, this is just shit game mechanics.

wow you talk so much..

You didn't take note of your current movement skill cooldown and just panicked when it didn't go off. People die that way all the time. The game likes to remind people they aren't invincible. Sometimes you die to a table, but most of the time you die to yourself.

Get good

Lance on aura stacker tempest shield kills most enemy's while AFKs to show how tanky character is wow that dose a lot of damage. Lance later die to tempest shield reflect damage 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘱𝘪𝘬𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘶 𝘧𝘢𝘤𝘦

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