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Capture Cards are boring now! (And that's a very good thing)

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EposVox

EposVox

Күн бұрын

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@SuileDearg
@SuileDearg 2 жыл бұрын
Recently picked up a XR1 lite having no experience with video capture or streaming but I am really impressed with it overall. It is obvious but it’s night and day between the PS5s internal capture card.
@cybyrd9615
@cybyrd9615 Жыл бұрын
But why does passthrough matter if you can mirror the monitors
@Aluminum0013
@Aluminum0013 2 жыл бұрын
I wish more capture cards supported recording directly to an SD card. I have the Hauppauge HD PVR Pro 60, and as a competitive smash player, being able to record my sets or friendlies and then watch it back has been extremely helpful, to the point where I have friends asking me what type of capture card to get for that reason alone.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Most of them do very poor quality and the onboard encoder makes them terrible for streaming
@tanmanslim
@tanmanslim 2 жыл бұрын
Now if only we could get a display port capture card.
@nophase4134
@nophase4134 2 жыл бұрын
I am currently a bit hesistant to get a new card as i just recently swapped to linux and basically all capture card software is not supported at all for it. Quite sad is that ive got a elgato mk2 4k which is now useless and i have to use my 4k cam link to get atleast my webcam working.. So it wouldve been amazing if the nzxt card wouldve been a pcie card with Linux support, as a real alternative as "technically" the differences between the cards are super minor nowadays and its just price, company and case that are really different.. :/
@TheNerd
@TheNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Linux in "the media space" in a nutshell. Manfucaturers don't want to support Linux because "the support cost" is like 10X - 100X (because there are so many distros you have to support). There are simply WAAAAY too much Distros, Kernels, GUI's like KDE etc. Linux can succeed if you put it in a "Single Box" (like Steam Deck) or Android, but not Linux as a whole. Imagine you employ some engineers who do write your drivers for like $150K (a person) a year for Windows. To Support Linux you have to upgrade your staff by like 10X. We are talking Millions of Dollars for 0.0001% users of 2%?? market share. On the other Hand you have a couple hundert thousand dollars for literally millions of users.
@retardedgenius6892
@retardedgenius6892 Жыл бұрын
Dual boot
@jorybeatty1726
@jorybeatty1726 Жыл бұрын
Still desperately hunting for an analog capture card that takes 240p ypbpr/component inputs without shitting the bed. So far there's like a grand total of four, and they're several years old; and I'd rather suck start a shotgun than to get a modern capture card for 250+ that may or may not work with a Retrotink in a desperate attempt to capture the footage I need. I refuse to believe the startech usb3hdcap, Micomsoft XCapture-1, Datapath Vision, and Epiphan DVI2USB 3.0 are the only options. Most of which are well over 300+.
@sleepzzz8621
@sleepzzz8621 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for a capture card that supports VRR + PCIe ver.
@kostyabelykh9866
@kostyabelykh9866 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of innovation, i'd like to see in future internal capture cards with additional features baked in. Like capture card and NVME adapter for one (or maybe two SSDs). This may greatly help with utilization of 4x\8x or even 16x pcie-e ports on motherboards. Especially now, when we have bifrucation as common on consumer boards, this will eliminate need of pci-e switches, which add additional latency.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
That would be very neat
@somebrains5431
@somebrains5431 Жыл бұрын
Very few consumer boards allow bifurcation of cpu pci-e lanes. Assuming all resources are equal is where you’ve gone wrong with respects to latency.
@grizzlyindustries7593
@grizzlyindustries7593 2 жыл бұрын
I find the NZXT Cam software interesting. So, it can exactly tell the signal passing through *only* the capture card with it's HDMI ports? Cause if so, that's pretty dope. I've been thinking of upgrading my brother's capture setup. And he is still used to using older software and hardware. Which is great when wanting to understand older technology. However, when I start talking about Windows 11(after he just got used to Windows 10), Linux being more user friendly, AMD is way WAY better now, and it's better to use open software rather than proprietary software essential being using OBS rather than Elgato software which crashes during mid recording. It's just a lot of tech mumbo jojo that if you are interested in and in the know. Then it doesn't confuse people like you or me. BUT, my brother is not a huge tech nerd like me. He enjoys video gaming. Capturing and sharing it with just us buddies online. And he likes doing more completionist and speedrunning gaming. So, having software that helps in identifying whether your using the correct cables or not. That's awesome. Still wouldn't get him this NZXT capture cards. But, I would love software built in like that into everyone and not be forced on you like Elgato's software.
@TheNerd
@TheNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in the Streaming and Recording Space: AMDs Encoders can not hold a candle to NVENC, which is why like 99.999% of all streamers use NVidia Hardware. Also: I REALLY REALLY tried to use Linux, but the recording World is optimized for Windows. Sometimes even simple tasks are A PAIN. The Linux Eco System has it's advantages but the biggest problem is, that if you commit to Linux as a manufacturer, you have to be compatible with 10000000 Distros which is (in terms of money) the death sentence and the main reason why Linux is never gonna be popular (on the client side) with manufacturers. Some Video Game Companies that do Support Linux have to put in like 10-100 times the money to Support it, compared to Windows. That should tell you everything you need to know. I started using Linux with Debian 2.1 and I can not recommend it in "the media" space. It is a very good Server OS for the web and has it's place there (rightfully so) but other than that... I mean... Simple task for this week: Install Microsoft Office 365 on Linux (yes the Cloud Version). (not the old ones like 2016) Good Luck my friend. See ya in 2 Weeks.
@AlejandroMironov
@AlejandroMironov 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love your content since forever highly informative and very well presented, however I find this new style a little distracting, it seems like you’re using a mist filter way too strong and breaks the flow between your hi-res captures and your talking shots/b-roll with a lot of bloom. I hope this helps in any way or form, I’m still looking forward to see more of yours!
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
The more I look unintelligibly like a VHS tape the better. Make sure you’re set to channel 4
@ZedSaroh
@ZedSaroh Ай бұрын
I've just bought a NZXT Signal HD60 cause the 4K30 is triple the price here in Brazil. It's pretty good.
@RowdyGT
@RowdyGT 2 жыл бұрын
Whichever company brings out the best capture software with 4K60 capability takes my business. Elgato's software has disappointed me hundreds of times over the past 9 years I've had their products with how many clips I've recorded only to end up being ruined. I have to record on the SD Card only with the 4K60 S+ ($400 btw), which the SD card has lower quality and worse colors compared to the software which doesn't even work anyways, not to mention the extra hassle. Infuriating to me. Hoping something could eventually allow me to ditch them
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Well the software inherently can’t have better quality than the SD because it literally just pulls the already-encoded file from the device to your PC with the same encoder. Sounds like settings just aren’t great on the SD card setup. But yes 4KCU is not great - but no one else other than AVerMedia wants to make an app
@Thunspeed
@Thunspeed 2 жыл бұрын
Love your style👍🏻 Great video as ever.
@DwainiumB
@DwainiumB 2 жыл бұрын
Can this take Wii capture through a OSSC? Oh nvm, watched more of the video. Oh nvm v2, they are not available in the UK
@Skull_Gun
@Skull_Gun 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me the best capture card for weird resolutions like from old consoles going through an OSSC?
@HiggsBosonMattTheRealOne
@HiggsBosonMattTheRealOne 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Thank you for all of the work that you put into testing everything. More info the better, WooHoo. :-)))
@CoalitionGaming
@CoalitionGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, lots of good info! Keep on killin it.
@ytuser4597
@ytuser4597 5 ай бұрын
How do i get the PS5 gameplay audio from my capture card to go through my headset?? 🤔
@TheREAPERBlog
@TheREAPERBlog 2 жыл бұрын
How is it with a camera and on Mac?
@VideogamesAsArt
@VideogamesAsArt Жыл бұрын
Ignore my comment on the camlink pro! Here you talk about all the things I personally need :D But I don't want an USB capture card lol, I just like my PCIe devices. so hoping for that
@designgears
@designgears 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like an avermedia live gamer ultra with the ports relocated. Is it a rebrand? or just very similar internals?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, similar specs but way newer hardware heh Ultra is 5 years old now
@SuperHeroJay
@SuperHeroJay Жыл бұрын
What do you think the best capture card out rn , for a budget and one for high end?
@devraygg
@devraygg 2 жыл бұрын
Love the shot of the CRT showing the specs of the cards
@floatyseagull9472
@floatyseagull9472 Жыл бұрын
An innovation that capture card companies need to develop is 4k 60 fps pass through from hdmi to usb 4 or thunderbolt to your laptop. Imagine, with little latency, u can actually play console games using your laptops display
@JoshGRacing
@JoshGRacing Жыл бұрын
Is this better than the XR1 pro?
@strangewayfaringstranger
@strangewayfaringstranger 2 жыл бұрын
I keep trying to move my damn channel forward but nothing seems to work that well. I wanna capture 4k 60, HDR and capture audio too. Problem is, my laptop can't really run the capture software too long without it practically overheating and bursting into flames ha. The Series X internal capture card is good and all, but sometimes it has these weird artifacts or something in the actual video recordings itself. And then sometimes the audio is COMPLETELY out of sync. And then on top of that, you can't record your voice with the internal one. So idk what the solution is anymore.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like 4k60 HDR is too high a bar to shoot for right now
@reinaldo1504
@reinaldo1504 2 жыл бұрын
hi i wanna ask about livestreaming, i got pc gaming with 3600 + 1080ti, and i’m thinking to get 2nd pc for livestreaming/recording i5 6400 with no gpu, my question is can i stream 1080p 60fps with i5 6400 and igpu for 2nd pc ? thx
@SoloRex
@SoloRex Жыл бұрын
Can you please explain NZXT Chat Cable Please i beg im so confused on it
@GeorgeFromCy
@GeorgeFromCy 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask a question. I started using a Sony ZV-1 a few months ago. I connected it to Elgato 4K capture card with a short wire and it worked fine but wanted some distance so I bought a longer HDMI wire however it stopped working. Are there any limitations on wire lengths for HDMI (the one I bought is 10 metres long). Micro hdmi to HDMI.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
10 meters SHOULD be fine, but you run into tons of quality control issues with longer cables. Putting a powered splitter halfway might help, just don’t use the second output since you don’t need it
@GeorgeFromCy
@GeorgeFromCy 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox thank you so much for your swift response. Truly appreciated Sir.
@Phynix72
@Phynix72 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeFromCy there are 2 issues i see. One, your camera is low power dc device which cannot push strong enough signal to run 10m distance. Second, your cable must of good quality. Solution - Try HDMI signal extender with 9-12v DC power from wall adapter. Attach your camera with small cable & then connect extender to pc via long cable
@GeorgeFromCy
@GeorgeFromCy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phynix72 thank you sooo much for taking the time to reply buddy. You guys are the best. I have a Sony ZV-1 which is a small camera. I’ll get on to t your suggestions. Truly appreciated 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@GreeniusGenius
@GreeniusGenius 2 жыл бұрын
Does it work if you keep it powered, but the computer is off? I can’t find anything online about any capture cards that do that.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
That’ll depend on your motherboard’s USB settings rather than specific cards. But generally speaking USB ones will do that fine, PCIe will not
@GreeniusGenius
@GreeniusGenius 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox OK, thanks. That’s good to know.
@sil3nttiki
@sil3nttiki 2 жыл бұрын
If you had to recommend a card to someone that is wanting to get into streaming. What would it be?
@PageMajor
@PageMajor Жыл бұрын
Can an a elgato chat link work with this ?
@krzysiekzmora1422
@krzysiekzmora1422 2 жыл бұрын
What part those producers dont understand… 4k60 is the way to go… not fckin 30fps we dont want “cinematic” experience 😅🤦🏻‍♂️
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Well 4k60 isn’t doable over the current USB specs they use. 30 is just there for 30fps games or people who use it with cameras
@krzysiekzmora1422
@krzysiekzmora1422 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox i know but they making capture cards mostly for youtubers who streams games…when i search for game gameplay i search for 4k60fps not 4k30 🤷🏻‍♂️ still better choice is to buy elgato 4k60s+
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Terrible choice if you’re streaming
@Blackpapalink
@Blackpapalink 2 жыл бұрын
Would these work on a 360 and PS3? Still got my OG Elgato Game Capture but it's showing its age. And I'd like to start streaming some older games.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
360, yes, PS3 still needs a HDMI splitter to remove HDCP
@strohkoenig
@strohkoenig Жыл бұрын
Does this card support Linux?
@Lukkas9090
@Lukkas9090 Жыл бұрын
YOU FINALLY ANSWERED MY QUESTION. No other KZfaqr would tell me it supports 120hz 😊
@nathanbraun2067
@nathanbraun2067 2 жыл бұрын
so 4k passthrough, capture 1440p 60fps? can I capture 1440p footage at 60fps while passthroughing 4k 60fps?
@AlbertStewart
@AlbertStewart 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Just set OBS up to capture 1440p60 on your "streaming PC" while setting the capture card to 4K60 in Windows on your "gaming PC".
@seeyditti
@seeyditti Жыл бұрын
upload the latency chart somewhere. :)
@TheNerd
@TheNerd 2 жыл бұрын
From MANY Years of owning NZXT products (I started with a PC Case in 2007) the only thing I can say about this company in 2022 is: AVOID NZXT! Their "reputation" comes from a decade ago.
@syafiqzailan
@syafiqzailan 2 жыл бұрын
With that output hdmi can we daisychain it to the other nzt same card?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
If you wanted for some reason yes as long as your signal format was supported by both (You can’t send 240hz through the HD60 etc)
@syafiqzailan
@syafiqzailan 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox I do webinars. Sometimes have to split one hdmi feed into 4 to 5 different zoom accounts on different laptops. Thank you for the reply.
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 2 жыл бұрын
I agree on the fact that USB capture devices really need to move past this f[EFF!!!]ing 5Gbps limit.
@MrChanw11
@MrChanw11 2 жыл бұрын
No pricing info?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
139 for HD60 and 179 for 4K30 iirc
@CookieManCookies
@CookieManCookies Жыл бұрын
Anything below 4:4:4 not worth it.
@spotify_byrdd
@spotify_byrdd 10 ай бұрын
It’s not working with my ps5 because the ps5 only has 1 hdmi port. What do I do?
@EposVox
@EposVox 10 ай бұрын
All consoles only have 1 HDMI out port. What's the problem?
@spotify_byrdd
@spotify_byrdd 10 ай бұрын
@@EposVox my bad, I fixed it
@NZXTglobal
@NZXTglobal 2 жыл бұрын
👀
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
👁
@Phynix72
@Phynix72 2 жыл бұрын
😑
@ShinGio
@ShinGio 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you're kinda cracked at splitgate!
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
I love it so much
@CaseyAQuarles
@CaseyAQuarles Жыл бұрын
"Everyone wins when you have competition"....can you please repeat that to my anti-capitalism colleagues?
@arkratos3727
@arkratos3727 2 жыл бұрын
if only they supported linux :(
@RYANTHORNTONCALL
@RYANTHORNTONCALL Жыл бұрын
That's one of the things I like about the cheap 20$ capture cards, no software needed, they just appear as a usb webcam and microphone, use any software you want. Latency on those (at least from the ones I've got) seems to be really low (unlike the avermedia I have, around 3 seconds) and it just lets you record anything as-is.
@Theexplorographer
@Theexplorographer 2 жыл бұрын
It's Blonkers!!
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Bbbbbblonkers
@Theexplorographer
@Theexplorographer 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox I need this on a shirt!
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY Жыл бұрын
Dude,wtf is with your camera? Testing some 2$ camere?🤣
@draggo69
@draggo69 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@draggo69
@draggo69 2 жыл бұрын
@Phynix72
@Phynix72 2 жыл бұрын
Naming scheme feel joke-ish too... Signal, what is it, AV interface device... Bleh..🥱
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Signal is a good name for it IMO
@Phynix72
@Phynix72 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox Cause you do love & understand alot of things things from Analog era, which have AV signal interface. But, these devices are made for digital interface.
@voxybuns
@voxybuns 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phynix72 Signals can be digital too, though.
@SoloRex
@SoloRex Жыл бұрын
Can you please explain NZXT Chat Cable Please i beg im so confused on it
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