2004 BBC documentary on the rise and fall of the DeLorean Motor Company.
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@MrROTD10 жыл бұрын
This could have been a great car company, all it needed was a better motor and time for the workers to become more skilled to get better quality, I love the stainless steel look of it, its a classic
@rski10363 жыл бұрын
Ugly square boxes. Each to their own.
@alandenson66492 жыл бұрын
Yeah if the United States government had helped him the way that they helped Chrysler the engine deficiency could have been solved and the employment situation could have been improved.
@upminer61622 жыл бұрын
Funny part is they had the engine in the works. They had a supplier fit a twin turbo on the PRV it would have made the car what it should have been. They also had a 4 door designed which would have sold to a few since no one else was doing that. A little more help from the British government and getting Delorian out of there or reducing his authority and they would have gotten every penny back instead Thatcher and the like had to stick to their rhetoric instead of seeing the reality of what had already been invested and seeing it through. All the hard work was done. The project was 7/8 done.such a shame for the workers.
@wickedhouston55382 жыл бұрын
@@rski1036 better than your honda civic
@EarthSurferUSA2 жыл бұрын
@@alandenson6649 That is called economic fascism, and leads to communism government control of production,---like today. Your great idea did not work well.
@UTubeGlennAR7 жыл бұрын
:) I am the proud owner of a 1967 Pontiac that has a unique engine John DeLorean designed for GM I believe in 1965-66.... Happy to be able to say even thou the engine is 50 years old and never been rebuilt, it started right up today and operated flawlessly during my entire journey of 30 or so miles.... :)
@JONACAN8 жыл бұрын
Don't care what anyone says, I love John Delorean, he's a legend, he was a great soul for the world. And what a wonderful machine, I can see his true vision of how DMC12 was meant to be intended, and it's a beautiful vehicle (a benchmark really). Especially with the modern day engine uprates and customisation you can do with it. R.I.P.
@jamesb83058 жыл бұрын
Buying a Delorian, and turning it into a muscle car is on my bucket list.
@theq46027 жыл бұрын
Its been done some guy swaped a LS into a delorean.
@Phantom0966 жыл бұрын
One of GM's best engineers and that car was a big threat to the American automotive industry. He knew the car needed a better engine. Funny the big 3 do not see Elon Musk Tesla as a threat for some reason. Maybe its cuz Musk don't know shit about making cars.
@peanutbutterisfu2 жыл бұрын
The government should have given the company a bunch more money. He was loaned so much money already, the company got to the point it was and then it closed. If the company was given the money it needed to get to where it needed to be the company could still be here today. People up here in the rust belt would love a stainless steel car that wouldn’t rust out in 5 years from the salt from the winters
@EarthSurferUSA2 жыл бұрын
Well said. He tried to be a real hero. Working for the state is not heroic. Creating a factory that hires people, gets them out of poverty and gives them their own opportunity, (They may become competition, like Delorean),--that's a HERO! :) We just have to be free to do it.
@errorsofmodernism9715 Жыл бұрын
People mock the engine power but the 1981 Corvette had 181 hp at the time. Today the Corvette has about 490 hp. You cannot compare 1981 engine technology to modern engines
@Bobster9868 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing my first DeLorean when I was a kid in college, It looked like it was worth $50,000 sitting in front of one of the most prestigious hotels in Philly. As I walk around it I said to myself, someday, someday. About 10 years ago I finally thought maybe this was that day, then the economy when into its worse decline since the great depression and I lost my business. I try to stay positive and keep telling myself, someday kid, someday.
@guajiro114208 жыл бұрын
Exactly John DeLorean sold the dream considering it was in stainless steel,that's the whole point of selling cars it's not just to sell the car but the sell the dream.
@jjmonns8 жыл бұрын
The car was not stainless steel, the body was covered in it. The reason no one else did it was because it added unnecessary weight, no color options and also it scratches way too easily. A good clear coat is much harder than stainless. It is also more expensive because you can't just spray and bake, you have to hand brush the whole thing.
@jjmonns8 жыл бұрын
flip inheck Then why make it from SS?
@Bobster9868 жыл бұрын
jjmonns The first idea DeLorean had for the body was fiberglass, but that seemed cheap and opened the door for ridiculed, so they decided to use a metal that was never used before on a car body (SS) and used a marketing strategy that it would never rust and didn't have to be painted. At the time, DeLorean was considered a car designing genius.
@jjmonns8 жыл бұрын
Bobster986 Except the car did rust as it was only SS clad. The frame and underside was still regular steel. He was a genius when he was able to hide behind the oversight of his previous employer. There he did well, perhaps it was more the company than just him.
@georgfriedrichhandel43908 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about John Z Delorean but he had cojones! He was GM's top design engineer with 44 automotive patents to his name. He wanted GM to be more innovative and cutting-edge by building these kind of cars but all GM wanted to do is build these little candy-ass four-cylinder cars to compete against the Japanese. So JZ gave up a $600,000-a-year job to start his own company. How many of us would have that kind of courage? Of the 9000 cars ever built, almost 7000 were still on the road 25 years later so these cars were built to last. More than we can say about most cars today.
@theeffectedcollective42618 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%
@GiveMeYourNachosButthead8 жыл бұрын
The GTO muscle cars are the holy grails! Even though I'm a Mopar fanatic!
@georgfriedrichhandel43908 жыл бұрын
Doom666 No arguments here. My "dream car" remains a Mustang GT, the one McQueen drove in "Bullitt".
@GiveMeYourNachosButthead8 жыл бұрын
Great car man, I gotta say one of my dream cars is that 1968 Dodge Charger the hitmen are in during that epic SF chase! My dream car is a '69 Roadrunner!!
@GiveMeYourNachosButthead8 жыл бұрын
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner* I also really want a 69' Mustang! I think that's the year of Steve McQueens 'Stang right? But that ride is a badass, green machine!
@mss6279 жыл бұрын
Sting: Creating a crime that doesn't exist and arresting someone for it. How is this legal?
@floshey8 жыл бұрын
+Martin Smith I wonder if he might have managed to get the funding necessary if he hadn't been arrested. Certainly seemed like he was very dedicated to keeping the company alive.
@jschauer318 жыл бұрын
I think DeLorean was asking around for anything like this. So the FBI swooped in and stung him. Entrapment is like approaching a person offering them money if they commit crime X. Here, JD was asking and looking for it. It's a very fine line and he managed to be acquitted but I'm sure it could've easily gone the other way.
@motanelustelistu8 жыл бұрын
+Martin Smith Is legal just as bush jr. made an attack on UNEXISTING evidence,and that "eviddence" give them reason to "make a PREVENTIVE attack". It's the way the american "mind" works. They're the country that HAVE AN OFFICIAL PLAN AT PENTAGON NAMED 8888 something,FOR "ZOMBIE" APPOCALYPSE and in that dossier they mention 3 types of zombies : Zombie something,MAGICAL zombie and zombie CHICKEN ... Does I have to say more about this INEXISTING "nation" and how they're MAD ... ? I guess not.
@hendo3374 жыл бұрын
Supposedly funding had been secured the day of the bust and John had yet to be contacted before he was arrested.
@InvisibleYetVisible3 жыл бұрын
@@hendo337 I saw that on a new documentary.
@GoneAt8810 жыл бұрын
Granted the car isn't perfect, I love my DeLorean for its style, reliability, and its place in automotive history. Thanks, JZD. Matt Carpenter AZ-D VIN4669
@zeroswings210 жыл бұрын
reliability... with K-Jetronic? are you JOKING? granted I have no DeLorean, but I had 2 VWs with that horrible fuel injection system and I wouldn't call that reliable. matter of fact, the shop where my brother works had a DeLorean in just last week with issues and I believe they were to adjust that crappy FI system among other things.
@MTLJack10 жыл бұрын
LOL Delorean reliable ? They are the WORST reliability cars ever. Voted for the top worst cars ever. Powered by a peugeot engine UNDERPOWERED.
@Oldbmwr100rs10 жыл бұрын
zeroswings2 I've had several german cars with K-Jet, and for the most part it's a reliable system. God help You if something goes wrong though. Only one car I owned had a problem, and even after it was "fixed" it never was right. I hated the system to be honest, there was nothing You could do to really improve it. It wasn't the worst though, that would be Chrysler's early TBI system on the 80/ 81 Imperial. Even they gave up on it fast, the fix was swap it with a carb and intake manifold.
@GoneAt8810 жыл бұрын
Underpowered, absolutely. But I'll bet you if you get a DeLorean that's been properly maintained you'll love the car.
@Oldbmwr100rs10 жыл бұрын
Matt Carpenter I had a neighbor who worked for a Pontiac dealer who was getting DMC cars. When the first one came in back in 81 He let Me check it out pretty well. I loved it and still think well of them. That engine was in production for many years and many variants, including a turbocharged model. Look online, there's performance tuners who've done fun stuff with DMC cars. I'd take one in a heartbeat!
@oldwolfhound127th39 жыл бұрын
My flight instructor owened one and let me have it for a weekend while he borrowed my truck to haul materials for a cabin he was building in the mountains. I loved it. What a babe magnet with those gull wings!
@VanishedPNW22 күн бұрын
You wouldn't happen to be in Hillsboro, Oregon, would you? I used to drive by a small airfield each day and would see the unmistakable silhouette of a fucking gorgeous, near-mythic 'DMC-12' DeLorean...parked low slung like an Italian stiletto among the comparably garish & pedestrian Honda Odyssey minivans & Kia commuter junk.
@hoopenhanger9 жыл бұрын
57:04. He's absolutely correct, I worked at the De Lorean car factory in Ireland and I loved being there, it was such a happy work environment.
@Manofcheese6938 жыл бұрын
+hoopenhanger Any chance you went back to 1955?
@hoopenhanger8 жыл бұрын
+ToaOfScotland22 If I had the chance to go back to 1955 I would have stayed there.
@Carbide1956 жыл бұрын
Ahm, exqueeze me sir, but that's a distintcly _Norern Ahrn_ accent I hear :^)
@adamparker13886 жыл бұрын
Prubbs Is that a Wayne's World word? Uhhh exsqueezz me, baking powder?
@SVPrelude10 жыл бұрын
Probably going to be buying one soon. I've always loved them as a child. Going on 30 years old now and still can't get enough of them, while the other cars have come and passed.
@rareblues78daddy Жыл бұрын
You certainly sound like you deserve a DeLorean.
@ilcool9010 жыл бұрын
Still a breathtaking car. It actually only needs a better motor, and it's ready to be rereleased, because it is such modern looking and a solid car.
@JesusBehindtheWheel9 жыл бұрын
Thanks to John Z. Delorean America got its muscle car era. He was the man behind the idea of putting a full size engine into a midsize car and calling it the GTO. People forget all the positives he did for the auto industry. You can knock the DMC 12 all you want but you cannot deny that the car looks cool. An LS swap is all it takes to make it run cool too.
@bobbypaluga43466 жыл бұрын
When he was at Gm he had a big stable of first class auto engineers, draftsman, designers as well as an experienced work force, and the immediate availabity of parts manufacturers. He had nothing like that in Northern Ireland. I think he was pretty naive to not anticipate real problems. He did not get the Capital he needed meaning that the early cars had to sell quickly or he wouldn’t have the funds to keep making more, that also caused the designers and engineers to have great pressure to get everything ready way too quickly. As a result the cars had to be re,anufactured once they were delivered to Long Beach. His staff had to grab whatever parts they could find whether idea or not. The engine was hardly what he had in mind. It fit which was essentially the main requirement. Good show with a slant critical of the man in areas where he was really out of his league.
@Phantom0966 жыл бұрын
Jesus Behind the Wheel With little resources the car he built put the fear of God into the big 3. Funny they don't care about the electric nerd Elon Musk (Tesla).
@bjorn15836 жыл бұрын
if you think the big 3 dont care about tesla then you have your head in the sand
@deeremeyer17496 жыл бұрын
The GTO is just a fucking "optional equipment group" on a fucking Pontiac Tempest that had a "full-size engine" before John DeLorean had anything thing to do with it.
@lovemussb19405 жыл бұрын
Tesla gonna be fucked when the German electric cars come you watch
@evimlck45799 жыл бұрын
My favorite movie (the Trilogy) of all time is 'Back to the Future'. The DeLorean helped immensely. Enough said.
@777jones Жыл бұрын
If you consider DeLorean a crook, he was also a highly capable car executive who built a fine car that Northern Ireland can be proud of.
@nickbakaj3228 жыл бұрын
my father has a delorian from 1982
@thelegion36823 жыл бұрын
Ooh that's a great story. I felt like I was there 🙄
@JessicaTG200810 жыл бұрын
Delorean's biggest downfall's were for one building the plant where he did, starting it with only 100 million dollars and not having strict oversight on running the business from quality to finance. The Delorean itself was an incredible car for the price. The Delorean itself was junk from an engine standpoint, he put a junk engine in a car that deserved a more refined quality engine. He easily could have put a Buick V6 with a turbo and he would have a car that would compete or beat the US Camaros, Firebirds and Mustangs. Then he would have an engine and horsepower Americans could relate to with the Italian styling they couldn't afford.
@michaelkelly82129 жыл бұрын
GM would have never sold him any engines, one, for being a competitor, two, for being an ex-executive. DMC built a prototype twin turbo with the PRV engine, but never put it into production.
@claudelandi5106 жыл бұрын
No,John's biggest downfall was that he was grandiose...for a start-up company that plant was way way way tooo big...way to many employees...way too much overhead expenses for a startup company...he DID NOT need a Park Ave. NYC Corporate office...he did NOT need to fly the Concord jetliner.. from the UK to the USA..he did NOT have to spend Millions on Mansions(which trump bought later and turned into his Golf resort...the NJ mansion)....Delorean was a Salesman and that was his passion...he cared little about the everyday running of DMC...all he cared about was acquiring other peoples Money and spend it on his dreams...whether they made profits...that was for his accountants and CEO's to figure out...a good part of the DMC Funds were used to acquire other Businesses...that also failed...and to live his lavoius lifestyle.
@blueskylazer9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to me. I had never known all the details of this endeavor. It was poignant in particular, for me, because I was working as an engineer for Ford Motor Company in Dearborn, Michigan and got laid off from work the same year as the DeLorean fiasco. But, unlike the management at Ford, I lost my job like the workers in Belfast and I never got my job back. And like DeLorean, the management at Ford was unscathed, even though they were the cause of the failures at the car companies. Smooth talking privileged salemen always win out.
@RonAmundson10 жыл бұрын
Its interesting to see how the translation of 70's era GM management rolled right into DMC. The 3 design teams competing with one another was straight out of GM, as was the style of negotiations as well as the spin with the finances... its like taking a GM project and applying it to a startup operation. Alas, there was no parent GM to bail things out towards the end when everything started rolling against them. The part thats fascinating though was how quickly everything fell into place... those time frames are incredible, not only to build a plant, but to take employees off the street with a brand new design and to be able to crank out cars. The 400 hour rework doesn't seem unreasonable for pilot production on pretty much anything that's so new, even with experienced people at the helm. Amazing!
@Stanman1218 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this upload.
@augnkn9304321 күн бұрын
You are most welcome.
@robertglenn53988 жыл бұрын
When government bailouts of recent are weighed against what DeLorean required to keep the Northern Ireland plant alive, he was asking for mere pennies.
@InvisibleYetVisible8 жыл бұрын
+robert glenn precisely. We bailed out the banks for the cost of BILLIONS.
@robertglenn53988 жыл бұрын
InvisibleYetVisible Do you realize that when Bernake called all the NY central bankers into an emergency meeting, many actually thought they were possibly being set up and going to be arrested rather than receive billions in bailout checks. Fucking amazing!
@InvisibleYetVisible8 жыл бұрын
robert glenn As a Brit, I didn't know that, but I do know that it cost Britain 456 billion to bail out the banks, all at the cost of the British taxpayer. What's more, that was only out of luck. It nearly cost 1.2 trillion. DeLorean was asking for pennies.
@uselessDM7 жыл бұрын
Well, the problem most likely was that it was unlikely the company would ever be a success and was not really important to the economy as a whole, only to Belfast. I mean, yeah, the money the banks got is insane, but I don't think it's surprising that Delorean didn't get any more money, especially at that time.
@rexxbailey27646 жыл бұрын
robert glen : WELL CAUSE THEY KNEW HOW THE TRUE POWERS AND THE ESTABLISHMENT THEY ONCE WERE GLADLY PART OF WUD TRY TO DISPOSE OF THEM IF KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY THEY WERE TO GO AGAINST IT. JUS THE WAY JOHN DELOREAN TRIED TO WHEN HE REBELED AND TRIED TO BE THE ELON MUSK MUCH BEFORE IT WAS TIME FOR AN ELON MUSK AND A" TESLA " TO COME ON THE SCENE. ON THE BAISS OF HIS 44 PATENTS HE HELD FOR INNOVATIONS IN AUTOMOBILES HE THOUGHT HE CUD REBEL AGAINST THAT ESTABLISHMENT. BUT WELL THEY ARE REALLY TOO GOOD AT THIS. AND ALL THOSE WHO SAW WAT HAD BEEN DONE WITH DE LOREAN MIGHT BE DONE TO THEM BUT WELL AS THEY FOUND OUT THE TRUE ESTABLISHMENT HAD VERY MUCH USE FOR THEM. HENCE INSPITE OF WEIRDLY CLEAR EXPECTATIONS ON THE PART OF THOSE BANKERS. SOMETHING ELSE TOTALLY HAPPENED SIMPLE :-I
@sandcastle14173 жыл бұрын
Every Delorean should come with a copy of Atari's E.T.
@rongeppo92386 жыл бұрын
After having viewed the tragic story I really feel sorry for the entire failed project, not least for the high hopes created in Northern Ireland. But I also feel that the whole disaster roots in John DeLorean's hubris generated by his fast career with US car makers. He thought that he'd succeed in everything he touched. Had he listened to specialists for development and production, he could have had a more realistic approach and might have actually produced a better car. Thus, he clearly overestimated his competence, which finally had to lead to this deplorable "car crash".
@mommyrandi18 жыл бұрын
i love the pink floyd in the background.. very cool touch..
@hendo3377 жыл бұрын
It's a shame they didn't use some sort of different engine...the Rover V8, buy the tooling of the Corvair flat six(so it could have TWO trunks) the Buick 3.8 or 4.1 L V6 with throttle body injection(if not a carb), get the tooling for the SOHC I6 he he made for Pontiac (maybe laid on it's side or at least slanted some. If I got one I would just have to LS swap it. The one on RCR with the 5.3 LS4 was sweet. I would want to build a 416 stroker LS3, stick it in the middle with a TH425 and a tall axle ratio so it could hit 0-60 in first gear and 3rd would be tall enough low rpm cruising on the highway and a similar manual transaxle. I could maybe just try the use the LS4 mounted as it came stock sideways hooked to G6 Aisin 6 speed manual.
@Slideyslide6 жыл бұрын
Such a cool car. I wish DMC had succeeded as a car company.
@Laurynas_S9 жыл бұрын
Deloreans story in some aspects is similar to Preston Tucker story with his Tucker Torpedo.
@cardinaloflannagancr89297 жыл бұрын
It was some years earlier so they were really able at that time to tear into Tucker, besides his not ever being part of the mainstream auto industry. For example they leaked a sealed sec report which was never made public or made available to tucker and his defense. The main us attorney persuing the company became the first federal appellate judge in history to go to prison. Very ironically over stock fraud, charges of bribery, perjury, conspiracy etc.. Sadly had these companies been allowed to continue on or have their ideas incorporated into the "mainstream" the industry would have advanced much quicker. With respect to tucker the american auto industry espically could have stayed in a much stronger position to have reacted differently to them.
@davidleonard83693 жыл бұрын
Tucker 48. The torpedo was only a design concept.
@GenBloodLust9 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how he John DeLorean went down. I bet this is how it went. FBI Agent Poorly Disguised as a Colombian Druglord: "So, I hear you need investors in your car company." John Delorean: "Yes, yes I do. I don't care about my money or the British Government's money, I have employees that i need to be payed. I have to make sure they get a fair shake." FBI Agent Poorly Disguised as a Colombian Druglord: "Good to hear we will give you the money" John Delorean: "Great" FBI Agent Poorly Disguised as a Colombian Druglord:"Oh and by the way I am a Colombian Drug lord not a wealthy banker. Also, Now, I need you to smuggle all these Drugs" John Delorean: "What?" FBI Agent Poorly Disguised as a Colombian Druglord: "Oh and by the way I am not actually a Colombian Drug Lord, I am an FBI agent (takes off glue on mustache to reveal another mustache) Mr. DeLorean, You're under arrest for conspiracy"
@rexxbailey27646 жыл бұрын
well dats wat the establisment does when u are trying to be a " tesla " much before it was time for a tesla to come on the scene and capture peoples attention. dats wat u get when u rebel against the time table ... :-I
@AndrewScott13376 жыл бұрын
He went out like a boss lol
@Phantom0966 жыл бұрын
Rexx Bailey Musk don't know shit about making cars. Delorean was a GM engineer and one of the best. It was like one of their own working against them (the big 3).
@Mrbfgray6 жыл бұрын
Phantom096 Musk is building cars that almost everyone loves and revolutionary ones at that. DMC was a nice idea, a slight evolution but not remotely revolutionary, that was poorly executed with weak performance. There is nothing special about a DeLorean other than it's properly rare. I wouldn't want one if I had to drive it.
@Phantom0966 жыл бұрын
Bo McGillacutty Clearly you do not know your DMC history cuz if you did u would know the car did not get all the parts DeLorean wanted due to money. Musk on the other hand asks for money with no product and people give it to him. Electric cars are nothing new been around since the 80's maybe even before that.
@iwanttodie50188 жыл бұрын
Well doc its destroyed just like you wanted
@TheFilthyMcNasty6 жыл бұрын
easter egg?
@ulfberht44313 жыл бұрын
That actually hits hard!
@VanishedPNW22 күн бұрын
"Marty, you're acting like you haven't seen me in weeks..."
@TheCornflake7610 жыл бұрын
If the documentary is from 2004, but at 58:35 they know that John died in 2005, does that mean that the producers used a DeLorean to ........
@ulfberht44313 жыл бұрын
Or, they filmed his interview long before he passed away.
@05gtdriver10 жыл бұрын
Isn't it ironic that GM introduced the rear engine, rear drive, two seat sports car Fiero a year after DeLorean folded?
@HighestRank10 жыл бұрын
Isn't it poetic justice that the Failero also was a motorized grocery getter?
@05gtdriver10 жыл бұрын
Rýán Túçk Yes indeed, karma is a bitc..... LOL
@jhnhopkins10 жыл бұрын
Fiero fireball
@05gtdriver10 жыл бұрын
***** Only the V6 models can make such claim, 4 cylinder models were slugs..........
@05gtdriver10 жыл бұрын
***** Wasn't aware I was helping. My ex had a 2M4 and it was sssssslow, my '74 Capri 2000cc would run rings around it. This was over 25 years ago.
@InvisibleYetVisible8 жыл бұрын
The same Nicholas Winterton who was caught fiddling his expenses. Glass houses.
@Ingens_Scherz3 жыл бұрын
Don't be stupid.
@InvisibleYetVisible3 жыл бұрын
@@Ingens_Scherz ?
@chinchy1119 жыл бұрын
gotta love the workers that jumped the fence to continue working on the cars trying to keep the factory going with no pay. Those are the real heroes.
@nealbarclay33239 жыл бұрын
chinchy111 The workers jumped the fence to take over the factory. It was a sit in which last a number of weeks. They were tricked by the Receiver to give up the sit in. He told them that he had a buyer and there jobs would be saved. How do I know? I was at the mass union meeting at the time!
@hue008x4 жыл бұрын
If it ain't selling what is the point?
@kvltizt4 жыл бұрын
@@hue008x Desperation often finds a way around logic.
@siqbrah9 жыл бұрын
Going flat out into a full on assembly line to build a "supercar" with little backing was stupid. He should have opened a small shop somewhere in the states, employ a couple hundred employee's and hand craft the first generations of his Delorean. If he got a small shop in the US with less employee's he would have saved alot on wages, equipment, a better motor, and better parts. A small shop that hand crafts its cars is what building supercars is all about.
@EmmettLBrown2015 Жыл бұрын
The DeLorean is my life!
@alexthewolf84416 жыл бұрын
The delorean was a sexy car especially for it's time. Just to sad it came out at the Wong time 😢
@driven399 жыл бұрын
The BMW i8 is faithful to the original Delorean. It's a must have.
@katakisLives11 жыл бұрын
Such a shame it had to end that way! it could have been the start of something amazing!
@sterlingstauffer29159 ай бұрын
The managers when they found out the Delorean company was in trouble: “Great Scott!”
@jeadelmann9010 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good one... your last sentence... I do say that the Delorean is a beautiful car in its own right... ashamed that it had to end... I've always wanted one...
@mad4tarmac6 жыл бұрын
well you got to hand it to him...he had balls...pity it had not worked,he got people from both sides of the fence in NI to work together and leave all the bullshit outside..what a pity.
@PuppyPetite5 жыл бұрын
I have owned 4 of these Tomato cans over a 25 year span, And all I can tell you is the purchase is just the beginning. The upkeep and labor has gotten way out of hand the last few years. The left fender alone is 5k . This will be my last one, because they are becoming more of a money pit than anything else
@captainh38318 ай бұрын
Why did you buy 4 of these tomato cans?
@bkehlin7 жыл бұрын
I love the DeLorean car, but there's no way, even by year two, the company was profitable. Having only made 7,ooo units and him owing over 25 million in loans.
@supergrobi5136 Жыл бұрын
DeLorean was only able to rise so quickly at GM because of its existing structures of an experienced, professional car producing enterprise. Neglecting this, he overestimated himself and at the same time underestimated the task of building up an organization that functions like GM from scratch in record time and without money. How could he not have failed?
@alexanderkoih54678 жыл бұрын
Sad story
@MrRichard570006 жыл бұрын
i never knew the whole story,great guy....
@hue008x4 жыл бұрын
Not so. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edSaiMmomq_cqJc.html
@vespermartini25566 жыл бұрын
"In 1999, DeLorean declared personal bankruptcy after fighting around 40 legal cases since the collapse of DeLorean Motor Company. He was forced to sell his 434-acre estate in Bedminster, New Jersey, in 2000. It was purchased by real estate tycoon and future 45th President of the United States Donald Trump and converted to a golf course."
@Brascofarian7 жыл бұрын
it was a hideous mistake that's myth got perpetuated by fucking Hollywood. It's slow, it's shit to drive, it's a glorious pain in the ass that had all the expense of a supercars with none of the performance. If it hadn't been made iconic by a movie. it'd be a fat fart in the breeze of failed car companies.
@Brascofarian7 жыл бұрын
Also I find it kind of offensive that this documentary only mentioned Giogiaro and not Colin Chapman, who was massively involved and rates alongside Enzo Ferrari and Ferdinand Porsche as one of the greatest innovators in the history or cars. It's fairly well acknowledged that Chapman would likely have gone to prison for his involvement in DMC.
@WizardClipAudio7 жыл бұрын
Damn,... he really should have taken the Puerto Rico route. :/
@wheelinthesky3009 жыл бұрын
This somehow reminds me of Tesla, with the technical problems, Government subsidies, and "charismatic" CEO.
@rexxbailey27646 жыл бұрын
wheelinthesky300 : HE WAS TRYING TO BE "TESLA" WAYY BEFORE, CAR WISE A TESLA LIKE UNIQUENESS WAS SUPPOSED TO ARRIVE ON THE SCENE. DE LOREAN REBELLED AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT AND HE NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT DOWN. DAT TO IN A WAY WHICH ENSURED DAT HIS HOLDING OF 44 AUTOMOTIVE PATENTS IN CAR DEVELOPMENT WUDNT HELP HIM. THE FIRST ATTEMPT OBVIOUSLY WAS DIS OUT OF NOWHERE ASSISTANT WHO WENT STRAIGHT TO AN M.P NO LESS WITH PERFECT FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF A COMPANY WHICH HAD A REAL AND GENUINE PRODUCT AND MOTIVE BUT WAS IN NO DIFFERENT A MESS THEN TESLA HAD BEEN IN ITS INITIAL YEARS, VERY CONVENIENTLY WITH THE NARRATIVE OF JOHN DELOREAN " BEING A CONMAN ALL ALONG " :-I GUESS HE REBELLED AGAINST THE REAL ESTABLISHMENT AND STARTED MESSING WITH THE TIMETABLE OF THINGS LIKE DAT ARRIVING ON THE SCENE WERE MEANT TO HAPPEN SO.. HE NEEDED TO BE TAKEN DOWN. AND DATS WHAT WAS ACHIEVED. DIDNT MUSK HAVE A MODEL WIFE JUS LIKE DAT ?? :-I
@mfitzy1008 жыл бұрын
Was a mad idea...build a substandard overpriced "sports" car in Belfast (no history of car building) in the middle of a recession!
@susandilaudo95344 жыл бұрын
8.30 mark i hear Robert Miles, Children. That was a great tune. 💜💜💜 Wow and some shone on u crazy 💎 towards the end. Great musi in this doc
@wattage20073 жыл бұрын
Couple of Leftfield tracks in there too. That was a great album.
@Tyler_Kent7 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that finds the politicians playing the "you just couldn't trust him"/"he lied right to my face" card a bit disingenuous? Politicians, by definition are dishonest. One needn't be a familiar with "The Prince" to know that a guy who gets as far as parliament - certainly all cabinet members - has sold out. So, as these guys reflect on their careers "fighting for the British people", pardon me while I vomit
@PaulSchwen6 жыл бұрын
J.S. Reilly - right on
@humanbeing24204 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. All politicians must engage in salesmanship to some degree, but not every politician outright lies "by definition" as you put it. Many do, but it's not a requirement for gaining elective office and never has been.
@alwhyte65333 жыл бұрын
@@humanbeing2420 sorry, but it very much is part of the deal. ALL politicians are scum. The last politician with any balls or principles was Robin Cook. Don't defend them, because that's part of the reason that they have so much power over the people that they are supposed to represent...and people forget that too. THEY represent US. WE pay THEM. They are scum. Every one of them.
@donovannotmyname73069 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like they're trying to paint Mr. Delorean as a bad guy.
@MrCountrycuz9 жыл бұрын
+Donovan notmyname the ugly truth was the fact that the workers were paying dues to the IRA and London wanted that to come to an end.
@InvisibleYetVisible8 жыл бұрын
+Josef Venport Not sure I believe that.
@taxin24766 жыл бұрын
Donovan notmyname : That's funny paint.
@Boodieman726 жыл бұрын
Because he is.
@adamparker13886 жыл бұрын
Donovan notmyname Where did you get that idea?
@harlockgft88848 жыл бұрын
just imagine if John Delorean was still alive and he got to create a new Delorean sports car
@austx29010 жыл бұрын
Wow, great documentary. I learned a lot.
@ibrahimbedwan155710 жыл бұрын
If the movie came out wen the car came out he would have been rich
@thelegion36823 жыл бұрын
Brother believe me He was rich beyond our imagination and wallets 😅😅😅
@aces-ww8zl10 жыл бұрын
Delorean was a great car designer and an even better salesman. Trouble was he wasn't a good businessman. Yeah the car looks great from an visual point, but underneath its a bit of a Frankenstein, bits and bobs from all over the place. the build quality was questionable at best, try getting the clutch out of one lol!!!!
@evilcowboy10 жыл бұрын
tach reads 1500 rpm when car is completely off. lol
@nofrackingzone74799 жыл бұрын
+evilcowboy All the means it fast, even while standing still. LOL!
@claudelandi5106 жыл бұрын
nofrackingzone...sooo fast...it could not outrun a Volkswagan Bus...with Lybians chasing MJ Fox....good thing it was a time machine...and he could escape back to 1955...otherwise MJF would have been blown to bits by the Libyan with the Rocket repelled grenade...lol
@captainh38315 жыл бұрын
He was more of an engineer than a designer.
@camt99676 жыл бұрын
Fantastic looking machine.
@OlDoinyo6 жыл бұрын
Many parallels with Malcolm Bricklin and his dream of a sports car. DeLorean was better at engineering than Bricklin, but neither knew enough about how to launch a venture of this scale on such short notice.
@anonov18 жыл бұрын
All the PRV V6 engines had premature simplex cam chain wear. The car was heavy as was the steering at low speed. The 130HP output was optimistic...any production engine made around 125 HP or less. Dyno'd at 98 HP at the wheels . As the chain wore it was even less and the valves fouled up with carbon deposits restricting intake air from around 65,000 miles.. The Bosch CIS fuel system was okay up to a point but prone to leaks especially at the accumulator., and cold running hesitation. The gull doors leaked rain water. The Lucas dash warning lamps fell out of the dash or were always loose. Lucas electrics were typically unreliable. I worked on many . ( am now retired. ) Would give this vehicle ( Made in Ireland) 4 out of 10 for interior finish and 7 out of 10 for overall performance. Should have used a small GM or Chrysler V8 or turbo charged the PRV.....but Hey! What do I know.?
@jjmonns8 жыл бұрын
Agreed, not to mention that the car did terrible in crash test even by 80s standards. It died for a reason, there is a reason car companies didn't try to mimic this vehicle in any way.
@dmc47088 жыл бұрын
I suggest you read the crash test report and compare it with other cars of the same period. In the crash tests it performed exactly as designed, allowing the front end of the car to crush in a controlled manner. Something ALL modern cars are now designed to do.
@jjmonns8 жыл бұрын
The A pillar completely gave way. I know you have a bias for this car but it clouds your better judgement. I admit it was an interesting concept but in the end it failed for a reason and the only reason and I mean ONLY reason it was ever attempted to be revived was BTTF.
@dmc47088 жыл бұрын
"It should be noted that the vehicles tested were pre-production prototypes with various cosmetic flaws. One problem we encountered was the driver door on Test No. 2 vehicle. Of the two door latches on the driver side - one forward and one rearward - we could at test time only latch the forward latch. Because of this, the aft side of the driver door came unlatched as it began to pickup load, thereby removing an important structural element from the driver side. This was manifested by more crush on the driver side and a net clock-wise rotation (when looking from above) of the entire vehicle during the test. Another factor contributing to the degree of structural damage seen in the vehicle was the rather massive instrumentation packaged located immediately behind the seats. We therefore had a "worst case" situation for the vehicle structure. In spite of this worst case test condition however, the "survival space" inside the compartment was maintained so that the compartment interior dimensions were not greatly different than before the test." The full report makes for good reading. As I said before it performed as it was designed to. www.delorean.net/crashtest.pdf
@dmcnamara98597 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? My parents bought a brand new 1979 5 Speed Peugeot 604 (133hp Solex 3 barrel carb setup was all that was offered in the USA); they have put over a 250,000+ miles on that car. The engine burns no oil,makes no unusual sounds,or has no drive-ability issues, etc. It has had regular oil changes over nearly 40 years. The chain and water pump was replaced about 20 years ago(as prevention) when the timing chain cover was re-sealed to solve an occasional oil drip here and there along with the front main-seal. It still has its original clutch. The mechanic that did the repair used Honda-Bond RTV silicone and it has never dripped a drop of oil since then. Only thing they did about 15 years ago....was have some R134 hoses made....other than that...car has been bullet-proof in terms of reliability-durability. The ignition system was converted to simple, cheap and bullet proof Chrysler Electronic ignition early on (no wires had to be cut), the Bosch electronic ignition system was garbage from the start...especially on hot days the module did not like to work. Granted,it's a slow turd launching with a empty curb weight of nearly 3,500 lbs. A very high 1st gear and stock 3.58 rear gears does not help with immediate acceleration...but once on the go...it manages ok.
@No.Handle31 Жыл бұрын
I love the DMC 12, one of the most interesting cars and interesting stories in automotive history. But I feel so bad for the people who built it. They were full of hope for the future and so proud of themselves for building the car. Sadly, they were let down by the boss who was skimming money of the top.
@chuckwhitson65411 ай бұрын
The pink floyd background music in perfect time with the telling of such a tale
@AleksanderDanich-23-07-198611 ай бұрын
It`s a perfect, almost "eternal" car. Stainless steel body - no corrosion, no need to paint. But it may be matted or polished. Do you know another car what was made like this?
@ulfberht44313 жыл бұрын
Had the engines and internal mechanics been perfected a little more, the DeLoreans would’ve been the greatest cars in history.
@wheelinthesky3009 жыл бұрын
Could you add some English subtitles when the Irish guys speak?
@jschauer318 жыл бұрын
Right?! Wtf is that dude saying?
@nofrackingzone74799 жыл бұрын
The gag in Back to the Future was the car had to hit 88 mph to trigger time travel, while a Delorian top speed was 85 mph. LOL! Good luck with that Professor Brown.
@dmc47089 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. The speedometer was capped at 85mph. This was legislation at the time and was the same on other cars. It does not mean the cars top speed is 85mph. It's actually 130mph, which you would know if you took the time to do 2 minutes research, rather than spouting off inaccuracies as fact.
@nofrackingzone74799 жыл бұрын
You're hilariously wrong. I've seen these cars when they were on the road. LOL, 130 maybe going down hill with a hurricane force wind pushing it. Most of the time they were behind a tow truck.
@dmc47089 жыл бұрын
+nofrackingzone if you have never owned or driven one, you are not in s position to comment on the cars performance. Sure it won't win any drag races, but that's not what thar car is. The Delorean is a very capable sports GT. While I have never pushed mine to the limit, I can tell you as an owner, it will hit 100 easily without breaking a sweat.
@jamesb83058 жыл бұрын
All cars had an 85 MPH speedo in those days.
@nofrackingzone74798 жыл бұрын
James, I was an adult the time these cars appeared on the market. A standard plain jane Ford or GM sedan speedometer top peg was 120.
@Useyno10 жыл бұрын
They should make a movie of this story.
@douglas2lee929 Жыл бұрын
Several "docudramas"are available now. Not aware of any full scale Hollywood major motion pictures though. From Minnesota USA
@breth81598 жыл бұрын
I think John is still a hero I also think the BBC stands for British Broadcasting. that having been said I think London did not want skilled workers in Northern Ireland making a good wage it did not serve them I know the American auto industry did not want John to succeed yes the power plant was dismal but there was a v8 twin turbo being tested that was great I would recommend watching the movie Tucker it explains what happens to people who step out of line not holding John blameless just genius with a great vision in his stainless steel Icarus rest in peace John
@WitchyWagonReal7 жыл бұрын
In reality... John Z. DeLorean DID succeed... spectacularly. Everyone still knows and talks about this car. Everyone still marvels at its design. Everyone still "what ifs" and "if onlys," and schemes of turbos, engine swaps, and LS conversions. A decent car is coveted for twice the cost of its original price (not even taking in to account 35 years... $25k in 1981 bucks). It's still beautiful, has buckets of NOS parts and support for its numbers. And everyone-- even the usual YT negative trolling dipshits ("piece of crap!")-- would take one if offered one, and be beaming proud of it, showing it off all over town.... All of this is far more a success than if the DeLorean had simply been another car of the 80s... or even a mass produced success, like a PT Cruiser or a Saturn. And if we're honest, some of its engineering touches are as nifty as anything built or designed today, even if the car didn't have a chance to evolve to its potential (and even so, its performance numbers are well within the bounds of other 1980s cars... it was a suffocating era for performance all around). DeLorean failed, why? Because we don't all own one today? Every time we see one, we know it and it is an exciting event. Calling the man or the car a "failure" is all about context and relativity (and perhaps, relative to what each of us has ever accomplished...) In the end, the car was a smashing success beyond anything any one of us could've dreamed up. Neat car! Love to own one some day....
@cardinaloflannagancr89297 жыл бұрын
It's kind of surprising that there is no real mention of the effect of the elastic reservoir molding process Delorean bought the rights to being deemed unusable. Having to change to a different process is what caused it to become more of a lotus. It caused the addition of weight, diminished crash performance, wasted time and money on the process which was key to the original design. The change in suspension in the US made the lack of power that much more prominent. All this taken into the equation had that turbo gone into production it could have been a game changer. Look that another company bought all the parts, blueprints etc.. and the continued interest which still carries on. You can now purchase or retro-fit a car very close to his intention.
@DjEndurancE7 жыл бұрын
Anyone else catch DJ Shadow - Midnight In a Perfect World at 46:30 ? I've never heard this version of it without the drum loop though....
@GoneAt8810 жыл бұрын
Hi zerowings2, I've yet to run into problems with the FI with the two cars I've owned. Most DeLorean owners I know (large network worldwide) have had little issues with the FI if their cars are properly maintained. Are the cars fast? Nope. Are the cars without problems here and there? No, but what '81 built car doesn't. Matt
@Dev1nci6 жыл бұрын
Did this guy... Run DMC?
@jamesgaskin77576 жыл бұрын
Its like that and thats the way it is
@Barnaby_bo6 жыл бұрын
👏
@jimbosaul39964 жыл бұрын
i see what you did there !!@!
@stevemtc13 жыл бұрын
It was the whole world working as a team
@Dev1nci3 жыл бұрын
@@stevemtc1 That reference just flew over my head sorry XD
@jackmckenna84109 жыл бұрын
that burning beetle at 8:30 made me sad :(
@herboz110 жыл бұрын
I was in Ireland on a project and just before I arrived, all of the bucks for the body panels were dumped into the ocean to help with erosion control. DMC was managed with amazing cash flow optimism. Only looking at the upside with no provision for the downside. Leaving all the stakes on the table and betting that it would keep on rolling.
@OutGoingMale4U9 жыл бұрын
it was Preston Tucker all over again
@Phantom0966 жыл бұрын
Jeff Hayes Very true
@deeremeyer17496 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't. Tucker never built an actual "production car" and no two "Tuckers" are identical and the car never advanced past the "prototype" stage.
@GameRelic10 жыл бұрын
I cried watching this, I love that car so much . -_-.
@Derpy19698 ай бұрын
I LOVE that the Austin Powers theme (as it is now known) is used at the 7:10 mark.
@mrkarkasian8 жыл бұрын
Such a sad ending :(
@absolutelyfreestockshots19318 жыл бұрын
Was he being punished for being independant and succesful?
@markg703010 жыл бұрын
DeLorean gave birth to the Pontiac GTO and out sold sibiling car Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396.
@Phantom0966 жыл бұрын
Mark G When I see a GTO I think DeLorean. Love that car.
@deeremeyer17496 жыл бұрын
And Chevrolet was simultaneously building Impalas and Novas and Bel Airs and Biscaynes and.... John DeLorean didn't "give birth" to anything besides large loads of bullshit successfully sold to fools like you. And the "GTO" is/was nothing but a "special equipment group" optional on the BASE MODEL PONTIAC TEMPEST.
@jonathanjones7705 жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 It began as an option package, but later became it's own model. And yes, it was a huge marketing success
@maggiemolly11110 ай бұрын
Mrs. Delorean is an absolute smoke shop! 😍 🔥😍🔥😍
@sandcastle14173 жыл бұрын
0:35 The Escort catching strays right off the bat lolol
@DiHandley3 жыл бұрын
The only people that don’t make mistakes have never tried! Good on him for trying! In the end the failure of DeLoran wasn’t his fault, it was the weather in the U.S.A his primary market. It came at a critical time in the early days of a new company. Nobody could have predicted that.
@theINQBS11 ай бұрын
Sorry but that's a Huuuuuge No! Had JD not WASTED so many millions of dollars that were specifically given to the company, DMC would have had the money to float the operation itself for upwards of almost 2 years! If that were the case the government would have seen he was honest and earnest and it would have proven to them he truly was a man of the people and would have been inclined to provide a bit more financial assistance until the crises was over and DMC might still be a major player in the automotive industry today. Then again, look at Saab. Even as a successful automobile brand they inexplicably went under. What did DMC in was JD's gross misappropriation of funds and nothing more! He was too busy living an unrealistic lifestyle that was not in line with the needs of "HIS" company, and his misspending made it so that ANY little hurdle would force the company into financial ruin. That's exactly what happened and DMC is literally history. Just sad. He actually achieved the impossible and then threw it all away in almost no time. That said, the build quality was atrocious and if you watch people restoring and rebuilding them you've seen countless facepalm inducing things that you'd never believe in a million years unless you saw it. Screws in gas tanks, rags in random corners under the body panels, literal WOOD components used in the interior… just wow! Incredible they charged what they did for these hunks of junk that were marketed as the sportscar of the future, and worse, it had a terrible and completely weak power plant. Colin Chapman likely played a larger role in the deceptive "ethics" DMC fell victim to being as he too was always living a lavish lifestyle and was a charismatic salesman of sorts.
@CarmieSchulz10 жыл бұрын
Delorean reminds me of the U.S.F.L. and W.F.L. football leagues: better and more ethical but without money.
@deeremeyer17496 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of "Commonwealth" country governments. Complete scams and all designed to cover up for the "elite" running the show from behind the scenes pretending they're just "window dressing" while brainwashing billions of other inbred idiots worldwide for centuries. Speaking of which, did you get the day off work for the "Royal Wedding"?
@CarmieSchulz5 жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 Well he employed over 1,000 people in a devastated area and produced something really unique-the DMC-12 was not a perfect car but it wasn't a bad car either. If you give people 1 year of happiness and a chance to be off the dole that's a "scam" I want in on.
@NicksCollectableCreations10 жыл бұрын
I hate when I see a sweet car, only to find out it is yet another Lotus. Boy I learned something new in this video!
@daverunner33979 жыл бұрын
looks like a brickland with less power
@evimlck45798 жыл бұрын
Back to the Future will always be my favorite movie of all time. Sigh.
@timothyfoleyjr27967 жыл бұрын
Your kidding ... you've got to be kidding.
@claudelandi5106 жыл бұрын
evinlck...Maybe MJ Fox...went back into time to warn JZD that the FBI was doing a sting on him.....
@TheConorsmithusa10 жыл бұрын
GREAT SCOTT!!!
@nofrackingzone74799 жыл бұрын
+TheConorsmithusa (Scotty to Kirk) "I'm giving all she's got Captain"! "We're still at 85 mph!" "We will not reach warp speed Captain!" (Kirk to Scotty) "Your fired Scotty!" (Spock chimes in) "Illogical"!
@davidguiney17463 жыл бұрын
I would live to see a really good story teller like David Simon do a movie or series on John DeLorean. It's just a fascinating story. There was a movie out a few years ago called "Driven" which was more a comedy and it has a few laughs but it just does not tell the story at all.
@mrkipling22016 жыл бұрын
Crazy thing is it went out of production just before the best publicity it could have got with the back to the future movies
@jehugo668 жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd at 39:40!
@jasonlong87548 жыл бұрын
Shine On You Crazy Diamond... Loved that, and it fit so well.
@stratpluslover83919 жыл бұрын
The delorean is a icon in the motor industry and a very sad ending for all the workers who lost thier jobs but really john delorean never thought this car out to the last detail and thats why it was built like shit and it was under powered and a high price tag of 25 k no wonder the customers weren't queing up to buy it Sad ending
@oilsmokejones34529 жыл бұрын
Yes, sorry for the workers and that a great mark was missed due to lack of insight by bean counters and vindictive bias on the part of politicians..
@johnnyrosado97477 жыл бұрын
gazmini81
@claudelandi5106 жыл бұрын
gazmin81...I took a look at one at my local Mercedes dealership showroom when the first ones arrived here in Connecticut..and the asking price was DOUBLE the price of a Corvette at the time or $32,000.00
@ScuddyGuitarsThings10 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna take a little joy ride!" "NO! BIFF!" hahahahah
@krisraps6 жыл бұрын
good docomemntaries, thanks for uploading
@wach919111 жыл бұрын
Did I missed something or company bankrupted because of snow in US?
@simple96099 жыл бұрын
I realy respect John Z. DeLorean!
@cornelieusfields99549 жыл бұрын
+Simple Read his book.GM put him out of business. They threw his dies in the ocean. This is when they set him up. He had to go to court and fight criminal charges of being a drug dealer. They did this so he could not make his dead line , when it came down to building his car. Read the tell all book. They were and still are jealous
@backbreaker1277 жыл бұрын
Cornelieus Fields Agreed. The DeLorean was certainly far from perfect but we need to understand that GM played an underhanded role in the company's demise as well. They were pissed about all the headaches and problems that John DeLorean caused them when he was a top executive at GM by exposing widespread corporate incompetence and corruption, especially with respect to the production and sale of unsafe cars such as the Chevrolet Corvair. They, of course, never forgave him when he left GM to start his own company and worked in any covert manner that they could to help bring about the DeLorean Motor Company's ultimate demise. I'm not saying that DMC *wouldn't* have gone under without a "helping hand" from General Motors but their cloaked efforts certainly helped.
@Phantom0966 жыл бұрын
Simple Something tells me he was one of GM's best engineers.
@845callaway6 жыл бұрын
Tony Wilson of Manchester said it best...some become wealthy, others become legends !
@lovemussb19405 жыл бұрын
Saw a delorean today in Hemel Hempstead so decided to watch this
@dmc47085 жыл бұрын
It was probably JUK30X ? That car lives round that area.