Caracal Enhanced F Pistol

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Caracal Enhanced F Pistol

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@OutSciEd Ай бұрын

I don't buy guns until Chris gives a review and clarifies a decade of rumors... Salute, sir.

@BJC835 2 ай бұрын

Always nice to hear from a real expert. Thanks again.

@TheSuperBomb 2 ай бұрын

The quick sight would seem more useful with a red dot sitting low in the back.

@me2ontube 2 ай бұрын

I love the way he gives the background history

@timrobinson6573 2 ай бұрын

Ian McCollum did a video about the ASP pistol from the 1970's and it used the same Quick Sight system but they called them Gutter Snipe sights. The ASP was a S&W Model 39 pistol that was heavily customized by Paris Theodore. The ASP even had the fluorescent yellow coloring on the sights.

@compted10 2 ай бұрын

I was under the impression that gutter snipe sights didn't have a front post but instead used geometry to give the sight picture.

@bulldaggerwatkins190 2 ай бұрын

The Seventrees/Armament Systems ASPs have no front post, but the Devel Full House “ASP” pistols had lower profiled fixed front/rears or lower profiled Bomar adj rears. I’ve shot both and inherited a S&W 59-2 Devel “ASP” The Guttersnipe sight is cool, but I definitely like the Bomar and post on the Devel better.

@jager6863 Ай бұрын

They are similar systems but different as well. The ASP was so ground breaking in a lot of ways when it was introduced. It took decades for S&W and others to learn from this niche project, designed for actually gunfights, not Fudds.

@Matteo_ 2 ай бұрын

I had a Caracal. It was part of the Caracal recall. That whole debacle soured me to that company.

@richardcontinijr9661 2 ай бұрын

What gun manufacturer hasn't had a recall? They've all had recalls. What matters is how they handle the recall. I got a full refund hassle free. They sent me a shipping label. Didn't get that level of service from Springfield or Taurus. Colt was really good about recalls. They were as good as Caracal.

@chicorodriguez3964 2 ай бұрын

it's way different when it's literally the first model ever from that company my friend got one of them for cheap and it was a piece of junk so yea I feel the same way about caracal

@daa3417 2 ай бұрын

@@chicorodriguez3964I don’t have anything from caracal so I have no dog in the fight. What you’re saying is 180* inverse, it’s expected that there could be teething pains when a company launches a brand new design. This isn’t only true of firearms, it happens in every industry. The issue of drop safety has touched just about every line of modern pistols on the market at one time or another. If a company makes it right I consider it to be over and done with, if I didn’t I have a very narrow range of companies to do business with.

@ElTejon47901 2 ай бұрын

@@richardcontinijr9661Korth?

@Matteo_ 2 ай бұрын

@@richardcontinijr9661 Well how they handled it was they told us they would fix the issue and then return the gun. After so long we got no answer. And then suddenly we were just issued refunds. So no I was not happy about it. And I don't think that is handling it well.

@justinjones9042 2 ай бұрын

Interesting pistol, the quick sight acquisition system is something I'm curious about and would like to give it a try . I like the overall ascetic .

@boomerisadog3899 2 ай бұрын

Aesthetic*

@codyi7102 2 ай бұрын

Always been curious about these! Thanks for the video brotha, appreciate all the knowledge you share with us!

@hopewilliams6705 2 ай бұрын

I want a caracal 816

@comacoda 2 ай бұрын

My buddy still owns a model C with quick sights which recieved the recall update and was shipped back to him. Cool pistol.

@K1ZX 2 ай бұрын

I love the caracal pistol C

@Spitfire825 2 ай бұрын

Speaking of Steyr, would really enjoy your expert opinion and break-down of the Steyr A2 lineup.

@fastmover2598 2 ай бұрын

It will be interesting to see how well the brand sells because it has a lot of well-established competition.

@bmstylee 2 ай бұрын

Well. If it's not significantly better than the competition or significantly cheaper I'm not optimistic at least for the civi market.

@LuvBorderCollies 2 ай бұрын

It sold pretty well especially the ones with Quick Sights. We only had 1 dealer locally and he usually was backordered.

@RTWMC 2 ай бұрын

Build a better mousetrap...I really like using the full length rails and using the ejector within the rail is really engineering for hard use.

@thedumbguncollector5546 2 ай бұрын

This should be a pretty interesting video

@Mrgunsngear 2 ай бұрын

🇺🇸

@gregvanness7909 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the excellent video. I’ll look into it. I’ve never heard of them.

@jusztinnemeti6380 2 ай бұрын

I wanted one of the pistols with the quick sight system. Unfortunately, they were pulled from the market before I could buy one. Had no idea these were back.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

They are available. Contact Caracal directly

@LuvBorderCollies 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions Thank you for the heads up.!! I still have regret selling my C model.

@t44e6 2 ай бұрын

I recently purchased a 816A2 primarily based on your videos. Very pleased so far. The lower has the Newington NH address. Presumably they are using old stock, I wonder if that is the case for the pistols as well? I may be getting a F pistol, curious how it will be marked.

@OutSciEd Ай бұрын

Any idea where to get piston parts?

@lounaticlouie 2 ай бұрын

Nice pistol and the "slide release" works well also. ;-)

@zacharybrink5088 2 ай бұрын

Slick looking pistol . Thanks

@liamandrade5167 2 ай бұрын

Looks alot like my steyr pistols

@happyhaunter_5546 2 ай бұрын

I understand the science and physics of bore axis and I am not at all arguing them. That having been said, the P229 has a relatively high bore axis, and for whatever reason I shoot mine better than *almost* any other 9mm (Beretta 92, Navy vet, shot a billion rounds through em on active duty so it's just familiarity) I've owned/shot. Still love my G19 for what she gives me.

@eisenkrieg553 2 ай бұрын

I've long wanted to get my hands on one of the quick sight models. Unfortunately, I have a handgun roster to deal with.

@Paladin1873 2 ай бұрын

When the Caracal was first announced I wanted to get one, but they were as rare as unicorns. I finally picked up a used Model F in 2019 but was disappointed when I shot it. The recoil was snappy and the grip proved painful. I had expected a much more pleasant shooting encounter. Obviously your experience does not mirror mine, which is unfortunate for me because I really like the look and the design of the pistol.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

You can see from my solo motion videos it was not snappy. Not sure what your issue was.

@Paladin1873 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions I don't know either. The pistol does not appear to have been shot much, but I do not know the round count. Perhaps I should try new springs.

@mcantu197 2 ай бұрын

They need a single stack

@anabasis3144 2 ай бұрын

Excellent review. I was a civilian contractor running logs outside the wire for 3.5 years in Afghanistan and 1.5 years in Libya. My greatest concern and single biggest requirement with any weapon is its ability to run crap Chinese (and other sourced) ammunition. I would be interested to see some testing and any anecdotal information you can share regarding lacquered steel cased 9mm and 7.62x39 ammunition. Case in point - I carried a weapon and probably used it more than most contractors (with the exception of post-2008 Iraq when contractors were almost exclusively the only formal forces fighting local insurgency.) We carried Pakistani counterfeit weapons (Krinks, Klashes, PKMs and even M9 and Hi-Power clones) and they may have been less than stellar accuracy but I could clean the barrels with a wad of knotted-up old boot laces dipped in an ammo can of used motor oil and run ammunition who’s origin I have no idea and I never had the things stop running. Ever. And we ran ‘em all for training purposes quite frequently.

@paulbarnes2752 2 ай бұрын

Looks like a nice pistol. They don't seem to be easy to find, though.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

They are, contact Caracal USA directly

@LuvBorderCollies 2 ай бұрын

It is a nice pistol with superb ergonomics. The Quik Sight was a major selling point on the C model I had.

@stevemendez3535 2 ай бұрын

I would not even know where to begin to try to find one of these by this name of the company. I’ve never even heard of it. Point me in a direction please thank you.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

They are a military manufacturer holding many mid east contracts for rifles and handgun sales. They also won a contract for the Indian Army. They have many other international sales as well. I discuss this in several videos on the company

@K1ZX 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutionsThey also obtained a deal to supply the German army with sniper rifles and pistols to Iraq and a deal to Brazil and other countries

@petesheppard1709 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for a very informative overview of an innovative company; when starting from nothing, they can do the whole process using the latest technology! At 10:34, did you mean Sig P320? I thought the 516 uses forged receivers.

@jager6863 Ай бұрын

Hey Chris, I thought the German Police Standards required that the pistol is able to be disassembled without pulling the trigger? I noticed you did pull the trigger in your disassembly? Please clarify. Thx

@SmallArmsSolutions Ай бұрын

This is not a test for a police contract, it is a testing protocol certification. Yes, you do pull the trigger to release the strike like the Glock

@thomaskingsbury6560 2 ай бұрын

Fear is a great friend and a horrible enemy. Some of these comments border on fear as ignorance. I understand the initial circumstance, I also see a reintroduction after assessing the inequities in the original design and great improvements and innovation being brought to market now. So you fear mongers stay back! It will be easier for me to locate one for myself.

@smokingcrab2290 Ай бұрын

One thing you need to learn about the gun company.. They are a hivemind of toddlers who change their diapers every time one person shits their pants. This is how Fudd lore gets propogated. There's gatekeepers who assume the moral high ground by spreading rumors and acting like they know everything. Your relationship with guns should never revolve around solely on what the gun community says. You should always try it for yourself.

@officedullard8722 2 ай бұрын

2:48 You say the slide-stop not to be used as a slide-release though you're using it as a slide-release in your range footage. 17:09 Why is that?

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

That is what the manufacturer reccomended so I say it. Glock says the same thing.

@officedullard8722 2 ай бұрын

I see, interesting, thank you!

@kylesprengeler5965 2 ай бұрын

i love story time lol

@johnnyringo8312 2 ай бұрын

Hey does that yellow portion on the slide come off

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

Yes, its a sticker

@petesheppard1709 2 ай бұрын

Am I correct in presuming that, even though the pistols are built around a fire control chassis, that slides and frames are not easily changed out?

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

They use the same chassis for the compact and full size guns. Works with both slides as well. Technically you could. Reality is nobody really does that. They buy the model that watches. If the wand a compact, buy one. You want a full size, buy one. The chassis means nothing to the US Army. Thats why they have a M17 and a M18.

@petesheppard1709 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Some of us silly-villians do like to tinker, though.

@joelhunter984 Ай бұрын

Caracal or the Archon type B?

@josh656 2 ай бұрын

Hard to beat my $379 Steyr M9-A2

@sleigh4019 2 ай бұрын

Lol...sure !! Super ergo also

@Joe-ch6mu 2 ай бұрын

Peter Kokalis gave this pistol a quite bad review when Steyr made it, and that did a number on the design I think.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

I think he was already dead when it came out! But if so, that was when they had the recall. These guns are perfect now. Like I say, every manufacturer has recalls. That does not mean the products are bad. It’s how a company deals with the recall thats important.

@Joe-ch6mu 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions It was the Steyr m9 review, but the Steyr looks and is, I believe, nearlybidentical to this pistol. Maybe some refinements. It was just memorable bc Kokalis usually was pretty glowing in his reviews, but man he ripped the M9 hard sonit really stood out. It was in a Shotgun News article from probably 2012 or 2013.

@augustosantos7621 2 ай бұрын

Halo 2 magnum

@g0ddamnitjeremy 2 ай бұрын

Tell me that doesn't look really similar to a czp10c.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

The Caracal pistol predates the release of the CC by about 2 years

@D00MerJohn 2 ай бұрын

Caracal dropped the ball so hard, they had a short, good factory trigger in a time before the PPQ, before the VP9, before the Gen 5 Glock. They need to bring the compact back with a more aggressive grip profile.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

They were a UAE based company who was selling to military and LE customers in the Mid East. They tried early on to bring the guns to the US. There were complications between getting set up with Wilcox and their focus changing so they could no longer house Caracal. Took two years to open Caracal USA due to COVID. The guns were available in the international market but later in the gave to the US commercial market.

@D00MerJohn 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutionsThey had several false starts for sure, they were on the verge of capturing lightning in a bottle all the way back in 2010ish. I hope they end up making a compact and having it red dot ready, they'll sell a bunch

@RosaParksWasWyt 2 ай бұрын

This guns in ghost recon breakpoint

@sergiom9958 2 ай бұрын

Anyone knows if the regulat slide and the quick sight can be interchanged in the same gun? thanksand great video

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

The slides do interchange. I suppose you could get a separate slide to have both.

@sergiom9958 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions thanks!

@Terracotta-warriors_Sea 2 ай бұрын

No options for optics!

@GunsNGauze 2 ай бұрын

See this gun, I luff it. Cannot habit.

@explorerguy2002 Ай бұрын

Are the mags a Proprietary Caraval design?

@SmallArmsSolutions Ай бұрын

Yes, these magazines are proprietary to the Caracal pistol.

@KaiserJoecks 2 ай бұрын

I like my guns made in the country they originate from. Call me weird but i like my berettas from italy, my czs from czech republic, and my sigs from germany. I wish i could get one made in the UAE. I mean i get it its easier and more efficient to just produce them in the US.

@benw2569 2 ай бұрын

Getting one. 🤓

@smokingcrab2290 Ай бұрын

Looks very flat shooting. Imagine this gun with a rotating barrel like the Beretta px4. It would be the gun that God made.

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

I’m confused about your slide stop comment. Who exactly says you shouldn’t use it? The company? Because it’s obviously wrong to say you shouldn’t use it. I’m a firearm instructor, and I can’t think of reputable instructor/school that tells people not to use the slide stop/release.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

Thats what i said, it is a slide stop because it locks the slide back on the last shot. It is not recommended to use as a release, you’re to manually pull back on the slide to release. Even Glock calls it a slide stop not a release. That was until the modified the slide stop to a release by making a larger lever.

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions Does it release the slide when hit? If so, the manufacturer’s advice doesn’t matter. That’s basically on par with fudd lore. There’s a reason why reputable instructors don’t hold this stance. I have ran classes for years and it’s never been a problem. If it were an issue, the SOP for mil/LE who use these guns wouldn’t use the slide release. It’s ironic how companies like Sig will also say not to use the slide release, yet if you go to Sig academy, or look at Sig sponsored shooters, you’ll see them using the slide release. I really hope you have enough critical thinking skills to realize that just because the manufacturer says something, doesn’t mean it makes any sense.

@connorburnes7697 2 ай бұрын

@@darklyripley6138Devils advocate here, I’m a pilot by trade. If you don’t follow the manufacturers manuals and publications for an aircraft you might die. The engineers do know what they’re talking about. Misuse of a slide control is however not catastrophic. They may categorize it as a stop and not a release due to its shape possibly leading h to failure over time if stress in a certain way, or possibly it is just designed to be a small control for locking the slide rearward. There usually is a reason for the manufacturer to state something is a specific item. Luckily misuse of a slide control is safe, and worst case it breaks after a while.

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

@@connorburnes7697 Do you know what Glock calls the magazine release on their guns? They call it a “magazine catch”. By his logic, we shouldn’t drop the mag on Glocks, because of what it’s called. And for the record, the Glock manual says you can use the slide stop when reloading. Same goes with Sig, S&W, etc. There’s no evidence to suggest that this wears down parts or leads to more malfunctions. I believe it’s just a fudd thing. This way of thinking existed back when 1911’s were popular, and people didn’t know better. Now it still exists.

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

@benw2569 2 ай бұрын

Can you drift the rear sights on the short sight system?

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

No sir

@jasonb4350 2 ай бұрын

If it’s only a slide stop, then why do a lot of pistols have a ambi slide release? Or is it ambi slide stop? I use it as a release

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

You can turn a slide stop into a release by adding a large dimple that makes it easy to actuate.

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions It releases the slide regardless, so it’s still a slide release. That’s like saying Glock’s have a magazine catch, not a magazine release, therefore you can’t use it to release a magazine.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

No, a mag release is designed to be depressed easily and the only way that the magazine may be released. If you don’t like the definition, take it up with Glock and several other companies who claim that it is a stop. To release the slide, pull slide to the rear and release. I did not make up these defanitions.

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions The Glock manual literally says you can use the “slide lock” during reloads. “After the last round has been fired, the slide remains open. Remove the empty magazine from the weapon by pushing the magazine catch (19). Insert a new magazine and then either push the slide stop lever (27) downwards (see photo), or pull the slide slightly backwards and allow it to spring forwards. The weapon is now again secured and ready to fire.” So it’s clear you either have never actually read the Glock manual, or are purposefully disregarding it. Just because it’s called something, doesn’t mean it’s limited to that thing. By that logic, you wouldn’t be able to drop the mag on a Glock, because Glocks have a “magazine catch”, and not a “magazine release.”

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions So it’s clear you either have never actually read the Glock manual, or are purposefully disregarding it. Just because it’s called something, doesn’t mean it’s limited to that thing. By that logic, you wouldn’t be able to drop the mag on a Glock, because Glocks have a “magazine catch”, and not a “magazine release.”

@BA-oy9uo 2 ай бұрын

This pistol will not be competitive without an optic cut and significantly improved texture on the frame

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

This pisto has been designed for military use where optics are not required nor used. The texture was developed from soldier input specifically in the desert. I cant say but I believe US commercial guns ma see optic cuts at some point. Those optics have little military or law enforcement use but a commercially driven requirement.

@BA-oy9uo 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions I am referring to the US civilian market in current year. It's DOA pretty much without revision. More and more law enforcement and military regardless are switching to optics on their handguns. While there is a minority now in the coming years the pendulum will continue to swing towards micro optics on handguns. The texture on the gun definitely is lacking. My local PD for example uses Glocks with Acro P2's and weapon lights on every duty gun. Love the channel thanks for the great video as always.

@jammbbs1688 2 ай бұрын

Slide release bolt release what's the difference

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

Slide stop, is designed to lock back the slide after the last shot only. Slide release is the same with an additional Chang which allows the shooters thumb to easily depress.

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions Except the Caracal and many other pistols that use the term “slide stop/lock” will also release the slide when pressed.

@chrischiampo7647 2 ай бұрын

😊😀😊👍🏼

@Terracotta-warriors_Sea 2 ай бұрын

That bore height on 9mm is not that important in recoil management. Many great companies and products have come along. Canik for one is way ahead of this hand exploding thing!

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

It makes a diffrence in muzzle flip/ You can tell that from the slo motion videos. You can see that clearly with Glock, Caracal, Archon…

@darklyripley6138 2 ай бұрын

As someone who used an Archon Type B for years as my duty gun, that’s incredible false. Anything helps, regardless of caliber.

@SomeGuy1234X 2 ай бұрын

All there products seem behind innovation wise.

@LuvBorderCollies 2 ай бұрын

Plastic striker fired pistols are so similar they blend together. With the Caracal Quik Sight both the front and rear of the sight are in sharp focus. That is a weird feeling to get used to but I became a super fan of it. Red dots are extra junk for me, as all I ever see is a large blob of fuzzy red cotton.

@bobr7380 2 ай бұрын

Too many known and reliable pistols on the market already that don't have the tarnished reputation that this pistol does. As for the quick sight system: it's a gimmick. Any experienced pistol shooter is going to point shoot or shoot using there front sight only at closer ranges. I didn't notice the shooter firing faster with the quick sight system, in fact it looked slower. If you want a quirky gun that's reliable with a track record buy a Streyr. It has a low bore access also and the company has been around for over 100 years.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

I dont get your logic. Sig has had recalls for this same issue accept Caracal handled it much better. Every manufacturers has had recalls. Quick Sight is an option. They sell a lot of them. Personally, I prefer the standard. I will say, you get faster sight acquisition with the Quick Sight without question but I prefer the longer sight radius. There has been one issue so your point of to many I find misleading. I encourage new guns in this industry, different innovations. By your logic no new companies should introduce products, let’s just stick with what’s out there because they have simply been out longer.

@bobr7380 2 ай бұрын

We all have our opinion. Sorry but Carical has a crappy track record and I think you might have more of an interest in the gun than presented. One last point: what support network does it have in America? It's unproven. The major contenders all have a proven track record. God Bless

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

What track record? Im curious as to your thinking. I deal with facts. We dont get paid for our videos. We don’t receive guns for free. If you feel my content is bias and I am being paid off, there are several other channels who do get paid by manufactures to do videos you can watch. I see many “experts” out there who throw around accusations when they have little to no factual knowledge. You claim unproven? Obviously you dont listen. It is the service pistols in UAE and Jordanian Armies. It has been bought by several other law enforcement agencies. This pistol has been around for nearly 10 years. Just not on the American commercial market. It is fully supported in America, it’s manufactured in Idaho now.

@badrelsayed1537 2 ай бұрын

Just to correct the information that UAE is the 1st Arab country to manufacture guns, Egypt manufacturing guns since the 50s of the past century and Iraq also manufactured arms long before the UAE

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

Egypt is considered African

@K1ZX 2 ай бұрын

Egypt and Iraq made copies of Soviet weapons, but the UAE made its own weapons

@badrelsayed1537 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions yes but we in Egypt speak Arabic and the Arab world is in both Asia and Africa

@rtz549 2 ай бұрын

They talk about all the tests it's been through and on and on. I just can't ever forgive them about the first gen slide cracking like it did. Should never have happened.

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

They never had slides fail. Some pistols experienced a drop safety issue, 10 years ago.

@rtz549 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsSolutions type caracal slide crack in google and look at all the old pictures and threads from back when it was happening.

@LuvBorderCollies 2 ай бұрын

The only slide cracking was a couple in Pakistan. No evidence ever came to light. For at least 50 years Pakistan ammo is the #1 absolute WORST garbage ammo you could find. It was well known in the 1970's already. Its why I NEVER fire Pakistan or even India ammo in any gun, as you have no idea what's going to happen when it fired.

@Terracotta-warriors_Sea 2 ай бұрын

Ever since a caracal exploded in a friends hand, I decided never to go near one on the range! They did a recall and refund/replacement in USA but in other countries they were not that generous! It’s another of those rich prince projects I’ll stay away from and advise my friends for the same!

@SmallArmsSolutions 2 ай бұрын

Umm, why did it explode? You can make any pistol explode. You need more info. If he had equip load, it would have blown up any pistol. Colt rifled have kabooms due to bad ammo but everyone still buys them!

@jager6863 Ай бұрын

Don't buy a Glock, as many "Kabooms" have been documented as well. I'd be interested in seeing photos/documentation on a CARACAL "Kamboom", as I have never heard of this before??? Please bring the receipts, so to speak.