Carbon Fiber Konllen JFlowers Cue Review

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Nick P

Nick P

2 жыл бұрын

Review of Konllen Carbon Fiber cue I bought from Amazon.

Пікірлер: 97
@motomarmot6544
@motomarmot6544 2 жыл бұрын
You shoot good man!! Thank you for the review.
@1acropilot
@1acropilot 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative review. Other reviews refer more to sound and feel than actual performance.
@ivanhoemaisonneuve1075
@ivanhoemaisonneuve1075 3 ай бұрын
Excellent review , thank you …
@ediesedgwick4462
@ediesedgwick4462 2 жыл бұрын
The shaft is warped out of the box. That's enough for me right there.
@miguelsmith3239
@miguelsmith3239 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😅
@PrinceDepecheMode
@PrinceDepecheMode 2 жыл бұрын
Slight warped!!!
@plhlolelnlilx06
@plhlolelnlilx06 Жыл бұрын
I’ve both purchased and seen multiple big brands where they were about the same or worse. This is a carbon fiber shaft so unlike wood, it won’t move and continue to get worse.
@PostUp_Time
@PostUp_Time Жыл бұрын
@@plhlolelnlilx06 IT ALREADY MOVED, OF COURSE IT WILL CONTINUE. WHY WOULDNT IT? IF IT DID FROM THE START HOW CAN IT STOP? ESPECIALLY IF IT IS UNDER STRESS FROM HITTING A BALL WITH IT. THESE ARE HOLLOW CARBON TUBES THAT COST $1.00 EACH ON WEBSITES. THEN ADD FOAM AND INSERTS FOR $20. AND SELL IT FOR $400
@jaynosowsky9708
@jaynosowsky9708 Жыл бұрын
I would not pay for any kind of warped shaft or butt Lol no thank you j. Flowers!!! ...whats the "J " stand for...."J"ust a little fucked up!!! Lol
@archer102356
@archer102356 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a Brunswick pool table, this review inspired me to order a Predator 314-3. Not really knowing what I'm doing when it comes to weight ordered the 20 oz. hopefully, it's not too heavy.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, enjoy your table and cue! Can't go wrong with Brunswick and Predator. Both at the top of the heap.
@nyr413
@nyr413 2 жыл бұрын
Should be adjustable if too heavy, great cue
@PostUp_Time
@PostUp_Time Жыл бұрын
nice to have a place for a table and the cash to do so plus the cue!! :)
@crispy-k
@crispy-k Жыл бұрын
Nice vid !
@tomwd.2825
@tomwd.2825 2 жыл бұрын
i had my meuccis and predator in my car for years... no warping no change at all...
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
Same here actually! I was playing every day had to have my cue in the car year round. ha ha. How things change when you get older.
@PostUp_Time
@PostUp_Time Жыл бұрын
*NICE REVIEW. WISH YOU TOLD US ABOUT THE DIAMTER OF THE BUTT, THE WRAP AREA. IT SEEMS TO BE VERY NARROW, A SMALL DIAMETER WRAP/BUTT. IS THE KONLLEN PENCIL THIN LIKE A PREDATOR P2*
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 Жыл бұрын
The diameter of the butt cap was shown briefly at 1:49. You can use that number, plus the joint diameter shown a few seconds before, plus trigonometry, to get any diameter on the butt if you are good with math:)
@ambotnimu8751
@ambotnimu8751 2 жыл бұрын
Is it true a konllen a reject of Jflower
@paulinodejesus8189
@paulinodejesus8189 2 жыл бұрын
Cant i buy one Jflower cue
@aleks83542
@aleks83542 8 ай бұрын
How was the warped issue for you? Was it a hinderance in your game?
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 8 ай бұрын
No, just a tiny amount. Did not affect anything.
@scottboyne8305
@scottboyne8305 2 ай бұрын
Let's not forget the cue was $340 compared to a top predator which is at least $1000
@minorsanabria2211
@minorsanabria2211 7 ай бұрын
Este taco trae la punta de cuero super dura será q se pueda cambiar por otra de mejor y cual seria la recomendacion
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 7 ай бұрын
"Sniper" tip, made by "Tiger" is a good one.
@ramsygacilan1598
@ramsygacilan1598 2 жыл бұрын
Wow its great, nice cue
@jeffpowell3195
@jeffpowell3195 2 жыл бұрын
is there a weight bolt in the butt of a JFlower cue if there is I can't see it even shined a flashlight.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know. I returned mine. I never removed the bumper when I had it.
@alexpersu9579
@alexpersu9579 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same question, can’t find weight bolt using flashlight either ... wish I could make it 18.5 , it’s 19.5-20 as delivered, too heavy for me
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexpersu9579 Did you get it on Amazon? Return it and get the weight you like if so.
@trevorwesterdahl6245
@trevorwesterdahl6245 9 ай бұрын
Is that predator an 11.5 vs 12.5 on Konllen? Tip looks a lot wider. A lot of Konllen's come with a crappy tip (by most reviews). Also wonder if tip would change overall play (most say it does). I say all that because you can get the whole cue for less than the predator shaft, let alone whole cue.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 9 ай бұрын
The predator was a 314-2 with a standard tip diameter of 12.75mm. The tip does not appreciably affect deflection. Lots of data to support that, go see Dr Dave's website for more info.
@trevorwesterdahl6245
@trevorwesterdahl6245 9 ай бұрын
​@@nickp4793 I didn't mention deflection (mainly driven by shaft material) or english (tip size doesn't = more english). But I totally get why you might assume that's what I was thinking because of what was in the video. I wasn't clear... was just wondering if my eyes were right. From my view, wide tips seem to be more forgiving which can be interpreted as... it can somewhat hide small flaws or equally could be interpreted as... wide tips offer a little less sublety in control (again, no expert here, just my perception). I did decide to buy a Konllen AS series with an 11.5 tip. Beautifull cue, no warpage or defects a few seem to complain about. Looks stunning and feels great. Was just under $400. Basically $100 more for the Safflower Pear wood, abalone inlays, and the option for the 11.5 tip. Very pleased. Would love to have a Predator or any other quality name brand, but for someone who just plays for fun I simply bought the Konllen because I want to develop my feel/habits with a relatively decent cue and the price difference is significant. The Konllen wasn't exactly cheap, but in a range where I went for it. Think it was wise choice. Plays great. No complaints. Hard to imagine there can be a huge difference between much more expensive cues with respect to playability.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 9 ай бұрын
@@trevorwesterdahl6245 Yes, I agree. I think the Konlin is a great value for the money. You get a whole cue for a good price. I did like the shaft, and if my aim was not already fine tuned to the Predator characteristics, I would have probably kept it. Fast forward a couple years after I made this video, and I did eventually get the Predator Revo 12.4 shaft. I like it a lot, it plays to me exactly like the Predator 314-2, and I didn't have to make any aim adjustments to my game. Good luck with your game:)
@trevorwesterdahl6245
@trevorwesterdahl6245 9 ай бұрын
@@nickp4793 Awesome! Your comment is why I bought the Konllen... once you adapt to a certain cue, seems like a lot of work to switch. I played enough with random bar cues to know I wanted consistency. Kept noticing big differences. Glad you got what you wanted and are pleased with it. Good luck with your game too!
@Rulkling
@Rulkling 2 ай бұрын
is it a conical or pro taper shaft?
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 ай бұрын
Long pro taper.
@ambotnimu8751
@ambotnimu8751 2 жыл бұрын
I want to ask what is true.? Is konllen and j flower desame
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is yes.
@tokyogaming8045
@tokyogaming8045 2 жыл бұрын
Can i use this cue for england pool ?
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
It should work for any cue-sports. However if you mean Snooker, those cues are generally a smaller tip diameter, but this will still work.
@iimiboy
@iimiboy 2 күн бұрын
Didn't know carbon fibre shafts can bent
@alexpersu9579
@alexpersu9579 2 жыл бұрын
Need some help, I’ve had this cue for 2 days and can’t figure how to lower the weight .. any suggestions??
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have mine anymore... Does the rubber bumper remove? If so, there might be a weight bolt behind it.
@alexpersu9579
@alexpersu9579 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickp4793 empty hole under rubber bumper
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexpersu9579 Sounds like no weight bolt then, and you are stuck with whatever it is. Unless its really deep and you can't see it.
@stevemiller1159
@stevemiller1159 2 жыл бұрын
The weight bolt may be as far as 6+ inches deep in the hole, if you look closely you will see the threads in the wood hole where the bolt was installed, they take a bigger hex head wrench
@aarontorres8202
@aarontorres8202 Жыл бұрын
Change your cloth to simonis. It's faster speed.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 Жыл бұрын
It is Simonis 860. The speed is perfect.
@bertraminc9412
@bertraminc9412 5 ай бұрын
The shaft is warped. Its a dead cue.
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 2 жыл бұрын
shaft is crooked already
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 2 жыл бұрын
Carbon fiber shafts made by Konllen are the same that they sell under the brand "Preoaidr" (Predator knockoffs). They're all crooked... Butts and wood shafts are not that bad for those prices, but stay away from these cheap carbon fiber shafts.
@ianswenson4575
@ianswenson4575 2 жыл бұрын
@@AngrierGorilla Yup. These are junk. I have JFlowers equipment and they are very good quality. They are not all the same as you stated in another comment.
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianswenson4575 JFlowers are pretty good, I have tried them. But I think the producers are pretty much the same. Obviously with JFlowers they put much more quality in their work. And prices change accordingly.
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianswenson4575 and by the way, I found one crooked JFlowers carbon shaft as well... This was the first clue. Then the fact that JFlowers are sold by the exact same sellers on AliExpress, with the same marketing strategies. Second clue. So I made 1+1... But it wouldn't surprise me either to discover that far more prestigious brands produce in the exact same factories. Maybe with different construction parameters and therefore higher quality and higher prices.
@ianswenson4575
@ianswenson4575 2 жыл бұрын
@@AngrierGorilla I can definitely see that. Makes sense...
@oldseer6936
@oldseer6936 2 жыл бұрын
I bought butt and shaft made by JFlowers (also known as Konllen) .. it came warped. So very disappointed.. authenticity number 4868.. the butt is also the exact same as Konllen and yet JFlowers says they are not the same company... someone's lying and it isn't me. JFlowers has no return policy..
@miamiwax5504
@miamiwax5504 2 жыл бұрын
This is why people need to order the Konllen cues from Amazon not J Flowers. It's the same exact cue just different logos.
@miamiwax5504
@miamiwax5504 2 жыл бұрын
They arent the same company.. the cue is made by the same manufacturer.
@biggspeed46
@biggspeed46 2 жыл бұрын
@@miamiwax5504 I've been trying to figure out both companies for the past week reading/watching reviews. Ive come up with the same conclusion. If you get the Konllen on Amazon and unhappy, return is super easy as opposed to ordering it from jflowers site. Plus jflowers charges $40 for shipping and no longer offering the black hard case.
@miamiwax5504
@miamiwax5504 2 жыл бұрын
@@biggspeed46 yes exactly
@IcedDragon420
@IcedDragon420 2 жыл бұрын
@@miamiwax5504 misinformation. Konllen is a 3rd party seller. They sell rejected cues by Jflowers. This is public information
@johnholmstrom4212
@johnholmstrom4212 2 жыл бұрын
Konllen is a knock-off brand of Jflowers cues....
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea about either company, and am frankly surprised there as so man comments one knocked off the other. Both are bottom tiered Chinese brands, and the only reason anyone buys them is they are cheap. What I do know with 100% certainty is JFlowers was an American casemaker a few decades ago. So whoever owns the JFlowers cue company knocked off his whole name.
@matthewbaney2660
@matthewbaney2660 Жыл бұрын
A little fyi. Jflowers and konllen are not the same. Konllen is a knock off of jflowers. I know this because I spoke to someone at jflowers directly.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 Жыл бұрын
Dude they are both low end companies. That's like saying Timex knocked off Casio watches. It doesn't make sense. They are the same company.
@matthewbaney2660
@matthewbaney2660 Жыл бұрын
@@nickp4793 No they most definitely are not the same company. Jflowers is muuuuch higher quality. Just because it's made in China doesn't necessarily make it junk. In fact the most popular cue brand in the world is made in China. Can you guess what brand that might be.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewbaney2660 Sorry man, I think your'e some sort of a Shill. This video has people coming out of the woodwork saying the one company knocked off the other. Frankly, both of these brands are brand new to pool players. Players wouldn't even care. There have been a bunch of people commenting saying the same thing you are. But when you go to a pool room and take to players, no one has heard of either brand. No one even cares except some people commenting here. That's why I think they are some sort of shill. Also fyi, I had about 5 comments that I saw a few months back from someone that worked in the factory saying they were the same company. For some reason youtube held the comment for me to review, and I didn't even see them until recently, but they were originally written one year ago. I forgot to approve them, so they are gone now. Anyway, the guy in that comment said that they are the same company.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewbaney2660 And one more thing, the brand JayFlowers was a USA customer case maker. He died 20 some years ago. Someone in China stole his name and made it JFlowers.
@matthewbaney2660
@matthewbaney2660 Жыл бұрын
@@nickp4793 What? Jflowers is owned by John Barton. The same guy who owns JB cases. I promise you he is alive and well.
@carmelornelas5015
@carmelornelas5015 2 жыл бұрын
They are not associated with jflowers do not buy this cue knock offs
@albertoperez161
@albertoperez161 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, KONLEN ARE jflowers knockoffs!!!!!!!
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, JFlowers was an American case maker who died years ago. The Chinese knocked off his whole name.
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 2 жыл бұрын
JFlowers and Konllen are made by the same guys who produce Preoaidr and Poinos... Those are real knockoffs! 🤣
@ianswenson4575
@ianswenson4575 2 жыл бұрын
@@AngrierGorilla Wrong. I've talked with JFlowers company before. They stated specifically that these are knockoffs of their stuff. I have JFlowers equipment and it is top quality. Just as good as the big name cue companies imo. Don't spread false information please. Thanks
@khaledali6784
@khaledali6784 2 жыл бұрын
@@AngrierGorilla 🤣🤣🤣
@GuilhermeVLima
@GuilhermeVLima 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianswenson4575 JFlowers and Konllen are serious companies. They sponsor top quality players all over the world. Opposite to "Poinos" and "Preoaidr", which are definitely knockoffs... agree with Ian, don't spread false information.
@santocarvajal8573
@santocarvajal8573 2 жыл бұрын
Buy buenos
@lukasvilarkovic9585
@lukasvilarkovic9585 3 ай бұрын
Drink some water for gods sake
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