Playtesting Pioneer Challenger Decks: They Are Actually REALLY Good!

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2 жыл бұрын

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This week Jamin and Carl are back in the Cardmarket studio to playtest two of the upcoming Pioneer Precons with Mono Red Aggro vs Lotus Field Combo.
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@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

Decklists: bit.ly/3z4D6Mp

@esekay3648 2 жыл бұрын

You guys are turning me into a trader... I play ygo but I find these magic matches interesting. I don't know what's going on at all. But the card names are kinda ridiculous. In a good way. Very entertaining guys.

@Awesomesausages Жыл бұрын

I love how Carl just called every burn spell in his deck Searing Spear. Notably a card that's not in the deck, unlike Wizard's Lightning, Lightning Strike, Searing Blood, and Wild Slash. Beautiful.

@friedaiceborn1663 Жыл бұрын

I was so confused!

@mc4ndr3 Жыл бұрын

Searing Spear is technically not Pioneer legal, though many of these cards have conditions then essentially turn them into traditional Searing Spears (or even Lightning Bolts).

@TheeKrix Жыл бұрын

Total play time: Red deck 1:31 sec. Lotus Field Deck 49 min

@crossr1984 2 жыл бұрын

I loved to see you put the combo together and not be able to pull it off immediately. I imagine myself in similar situations. I've never played Combo, but I'd like to try.

@Dalmathus 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really cool video! I have been looking all over for lessons on how to play this deck and its so refreshing to see the explanations and the breakdowns. And not have to look at the MTGO interface.

@maxrocks24 2 жыл бұрын

Your content is very well produced, I hope your channel keeps growing! thx for the fun matches

@oneforallmtg1293 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video as always I haven't played pioneer before but you guys always make something new look interesting!

@returningwhisper 2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty excited about these, I hope they are reasonably priced.

@lazargodragonborn5058 2 жыл бұрын

I'm seeing them up on Amazon for Pre-Order at a bit above 40$ each so reasonable for decks that will introduce players to non-roatating formats and a perfect way to rekindle interest into Pioneer

@chancecarlson2023 2 жыл бұрын

They're reasonable for people getting into the format, lotus field is my favorite

@RictusNZ 8 ай бұрын

'Jamin-corportated' made me chuckle.

@hermelin12 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, Testing these challenger Pioneer Decks is a nice idea. Very interesting product and seeing it in action via you 2 battling it out is nice :) Maybe pioneer is another format you could do from time to time in paper anyways Cheers! Also: thanks for the games, very entertaining and afterall sound, video and everything is very smooth, nice and professional :-)

@Aaackermann Жыл бұрын

Ach so! Jamin heißt "Kauf"! Hab mich schon über die merkwürdige Aufforderung seines Cardmarket Shirts gewundert! 😀

@asherat8332 2 жыл бұрын

That was good. I would love to see the fully upgraded decks fighting again. :O Same for the other 2 decks of the Pioneer challenger decks. Keep the work ^^

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

We do have more Pioneer coming up soon, I am not sure about precons though

@icomment2226 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Great enthusiasm!

@TaisxD 2 жыл бұрын

This is quickly becoming one of my favorite youtube channels. It really does need a name to help people find it thought. Anyway thanks for the content. I'd love to see either modern humans or elves in the future.

@Immerglad 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always! I was going to buy the red pioneer deck, but looking at the competitive list, the cards that you can get from the challenger deck are cheaper on Card Market as singles

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

Good call!

@_Bladefury_ 2 жыл бұрын

I love this! Thank you so much!

@lordice5 Жыл бұрын

I got into MtG with that Mono-Red Burn precon. Such a potent deck

@Brocmac12 2 жыл бұрын

Big fan of pioneer precons, hopefully they’re not too expensive. Could we please get indomitable creativity in modern please?

@bblivid Жыл бұрын

This was fun to watch. I was confused why you wouldn't want to swing in with bomat courier if they had an arboreal grazer. It triggers on attack not damage so you could swing into grazer over and over and not worry about it dying.

@joe_8699 2 жыл бұрын

I just got back into magic since 2002. I bought the mono red deck and a couple strixhaven commander decks. Even bought some booster boxes to doll them up a bit. I never played at my lgs just with buddies in the back room. Looking forward to getting out and playing again. Even if it's at the lgs with strangers. Haha. Really digging the new stuff. Still feels weird playing with sleeves tho. We never did that.

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

The Mono Red deck was a great choice. We made an upgrade video for this, on how to turn it into a tier 1 deck. Even out of the box it is simple, powerful and fun. Hope you enjoy!

@abnormallynormal8823 2 жыл бұрын

I’m coming back into mtg after a few years away. Used to play modern and commander, but my modern deck is drastically out of date, and some bans have screwed it over. Don’t really wanna buy into modern again, it just got too competitive. These look like a super fun thing to have around to play after a commander game, or to teach someone the basics of the game. Definitely gonna scoop at least two of these

@michaelbohm5160 2 жыл бұрын

lotus field combo to teach someone the game? :D

@raulxavier4344 2 жыл бұрын

I love this format! keep on doing pioneer content

@WarlanderTV Жыл бұрын

Watching paper Magic is such a blast!

@TheeKrix Жыл бұрын

Remind me to get a pot of coffee when I play against this Lotus Field/Omniscience deck

@Kretanus 2 жыл бұрын

another great video!

@wetwillyis_1881 2 жыл бұрын

If I had a Nickle for every time a land got banned in standard, I would two Nickles, which isn't much, but it's weird that I happened twice.

@guffe5813 2 жыл бұрын

Two Nickles? You would have a lot more. Strip Mine, Tolarian Academy, Darksteel Citadel, Ancient Den, Tree of Tales, Seat of The Synod, Great Furnace, Vault of Whispers, Ramunap Ruins and Field of the Dead have all been banned in Standard

@FlourescentPotato Жыл бұрын

@@guffe5813 ok boomer

@Aaackermann Жыл бұрын

@@FlourescentPotato random

@louisscupham2823 2 жыл бұрын

In that last game Blast zone would've been clutch to clear his 1 drops

@DanielJones-oj5ol 11 ай бұрын

Is the background music Marion hill?

@benjaminmeyer4885 Жыл бұрын

Can someone explain me at 17:00 how can he activate the Thespian stage ability without having 2 mana ?

@kirasakumune2750 Жыл бұрын

Vizer got 1 floating then he tapped lotus field for 3 meaning he had 4 used 2 on the thespian and used the other 2 on hidden strings

@jshavluk4342 5 ай бұрын

I just noticed the card labels in the bottom corner of the screen are way easier to read on this video than they are in the new videos 😮

@CardmarketMagic 5 ай бұрын

At the time we use to make them custom. People found them much harder to follow than the new ones where we simply crop the actual card 💁‍♂️

@rodrigod.p.serrano6046 2 жыл бұрын

When do we get to see younplay the other two?

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

Soon hopefully

@GMZ5000 7 ай бұрын

At 22:20, how does Jamin have 9 mana? He needs two mana to copy Thespians Stage but he just tapped them all as if they were each 3 instead of paying the 2 to copy?

@tig1731 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the lotus feild combo deck, its insane

@85daffe 2 жыл бұрын

Same here its insane combo tryd it 5 matches 5 wins XD

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear. I think it might be the most popular of the 4 along side mono red. And such good value as well! You get almost the whole deck!

@dragonfire3152 2 жыл бұрын

Got yourself a new subscriber.

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

The exact 5 words every channel wants to read :D

@stefannelson5785 2 жыл бұрын

How about Grixis Lurrus?

@locknloadbitch 2 жыл бұрын

10:02 why does he cast Thespian's Stage tapped ?

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

I believe it is because it came into play from the Grazer which says it needs to come into play tapped.

@jellysandjamz250 11 ай бұрын

Carl said “monastery mentor” game two and I was like 🫤

@the_be_oioi 2 жыл бұрын

Are those decks worth it? (value)

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what we mean by value. If we are talking pure money (price of cards vs cost of box, its debatable. All of the boxes contain more card value than price of the box, though some of them are not huge differences. On the other hand, Pioneer may be a format taken seriously when paper magic comes back, therefore the value of the cards could go up. I think the big advantage is the value of ease when building a new deck in a new format. Rather than buying cards from different sellers and paying shipping fees, you are getting at least the base start of a deck with low investment and not too much time investment to source the correct cards.

@jakemontalbano3771 2 жыл бұрын

Jamin asked for me to subscribe so I had to :O

@jakemontalbano3771 2 жыл бұрын

Carl thought every burn spell was Searing Spear this video xD

@thomasheindl7594 2 жыл бұрын

Super Video!

@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@mangohub3252 2 жыл бұрын

Spirits vs white black aura precon edition

@ooftoast7511 2 жыл бұрын

31:52 why did the bomat not die to the fae of wishes

@plewcock2746 2 жыл бұрын

It's power was reduced to 0 by the Soul Scar Mage

@johns564 2 жыл бұрын

Affinity/Tron!

@DubkilledBRS 11 ай бұрын

Cool decks. But so much misplays from Jamin, 18:40 instead of using Strategic planning, just go into adventure and bring the Second sun and cast it on the next turn))

@timfinn836 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video boys.red deck wins flawless victory

@tbone6704 2 жыл бұрын

Carl looks like Karl from Workaholics

@bubblecheese2506 2 жыл бұрын

Good 'ol Grazer

@TheeKrix Жыл бұрын

Carl’s got the personality of Jimmy Fallon

@cordobafranco5873 2 жыл бұрын

awesome channel

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@andrijagrgic2357 2 жыл бұрын

I really want the lotus field combo deck. But it feels like i would be an ass for playing it with my buddies lol

@TehKorwinMikke 9 ай бұрын

Yes indeed you would! This style of deck is great for singleplayer.

@andrijagrgic2357 9 ай бұрын

@@TehKorwinMikke i did get it, if you would like to know. I upgraded it and collected multiple bags of salty tears haha. But in the end i retired it and dismantled it for a commander deck. I've built urza and collect just as much tears 😭

@TehKorwinMikke 9 ай бұрын

@@andrijagrgic2357 I'm glad I play with sane people and don't have to deal with this kind of garbage xD

@Freebird462 2 жыл бұрын

I. Adding a comment because pioneer is suddenly getting popular in my area and i want more content to learn and play more

@eggtimer2 Жыл бұрын

These games are so realistically boring - I really like it. Usually you are flooded or screwed.

@intercitygamers2909 2 жыл бұрын

third game, he should of kept the hand because 2 forest, lotus field.

@MrPiotrV Жыл бұрын

yep. was a pretty ok hand

@oreofudgeman 2 жыл бұрын

I have a mono red one drop deck that eats lotus field and jeskai ascendency for a mid day snack lmao

@robterry9327 2 жыл бұрын

Play obosh hammer

@roberth7054 2 жыл бұрын

R.I.P. headphone wearers

@user-wn6jk1xr5p 3 ай бұрын

4 lander hand keep, bruh

@louisscupham2823 2 жыл бұрын

Like the energy but think Carl plays it up a little which seems fairly forced? Love the attitude but think it could be toned down a bit? Content was great tho. Looking at getting into pioneer and just picked up field combo so this video helped a lot

@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын

Actually Carl is on video the same as in real life!

@louisscupham2823 2 жыл бұрын

@@CardmarketMagic well I do humbly apologise! Loved the video. I just started your spirits vs auras game! Tempted to pick up spirits for myself

@dylanmahoney4889 Жыл бұрын

❤❤

@waltergriffith4368 Жыл бұрын

The lotus field deck is cool and all. I made sure I run my deck that just kills nonbasic land cards and I and counter the the death kill combos. I love watching people spend all there time building land and doing all there things to get there when and when they are about to finsh im like ba get that out of here. I also love keeping there liberal empty also its great

@Jimmy-tx9wr 6 ай бұрын

The typical yugioh game

@refundreplay 2 жыл бұрын

Carl got that Crackhead energy. Watch your cards around this dude.

@jonathanmoore7472 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it’s not my format but at least it’s paper

@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын

We've got a bunch of other feature matches in other formats! Mostly Modern (and Pioneer) but also Legacy, Commander, and Pauper! -Jamin

@jonathanmoore7472 Жыл бұрын

@@CardmarketMagic I enjoy the content just typical play commander

@lucaghione1947 2 жыл бұрын

Shhhhhh let me seeee the f. Game!!!!!!!!!

@Varatrix 11 ай бұрын

I hate lotus field combo....I tried playing it and you just don't really interact much and is a boring solitaire deck.

@TehKorwinMikke 9 ай бұрын

This type of combo/puzzle deck is fun to goldfish, to play against the wall. They are obnoxious when played against humans. And only terrible antisocial weirdos defend using those decks in real game against real humans.