Unbanning the Titans! No Banlist Modern | Hypergenesis vs Izzet Storm

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Cardmarket - Magic

Cardmarket - Magic

Жыл бұрын

Thoralf & Carl aren't playing by the rules today and brought two decks full of banned modern cards. If you think Modern Horizons II is wild, wait till you see what modern would look like without a banlist!
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@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
You can find the decklists here🦖🌩: bit.ly/3BtXoSI
@becauseTRIFORCE
@becauseTRIFORCE Жыл бұрын
There’s something deeply hilarious about you guys bringing no holds barred, wildly expensive magic decks to these videos and then somehow only having four dice
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We have tons of dice but only 6 big dice. Still.... we should really buy more, they are only 1€ a pack 😅
@jamespeake2606
@jamespeake2606 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic No, you get a set of even bigger dice.
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 Жыл бұрын
@@jamespeake2606 I second this
@theshadowking9626
@theshadowking9626 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's pretty obvious they're not using actual cards they are proxies
@aandylane
@aandylane Жыл бұрын
@@theshadowking9626 they are the real cards, they're loaned to them for the purpose of the video by a superseller who has something like 600,000 cards for sale on CardMarket
@fclyra
@fclyra Жыл бұрын
Paper magic is just so much better than online play, but not on KZfaq usually, 'cause you can't even understand what's going on like 90% of the time. Unless you're watching Cardmarket videos obviously, because they simply rock. PLEASE do more feature matches (particularly Modern ones if I may)
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's so kind of you! We put a lot of effort into making the videos easy to follow :)
@FPRobber
@FPRobber Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic It shows!
@brandandixon3943
@brandandixon3943 Жыл бұрын
sounds like a personal issue.
@JamesELLYale
@JamesELLYale Жыл бұрын
Man it's easy to underestimate how resilient storm can be. That game three really demonstrates why storm is such a dangerous mechanic. Spoiler below: Carl had ONE mana open and one castable spell when the Endurance's trigger resolved! It was CRAZY that the game was still that close!
@PharaohofAtlantis
@PharaohofAtlantis Жыл бұрын
It feels like the first deck everyone tries to make when there's no banlist is Hypergenesis. I'd love to see more no banlist in the future.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We have done it a few times before! Here is one we did with Gabriel Nassif: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocCTZ7B0kpPJl2g.html
@tomneilson9501
@tomneilson9501 Жыл бұрын
its a bit of a eureka moment
@badvoodoo2097
@badvoodoo2097 Жыл бұрын
No ban list elves is pretty crazy
@abusus75
@abusus75 Жыл бұрын
@@badvoodoo2097 i want to see affinity
@actuallyKriminell
@actuallyKriminell Жыл бұрын
play it in edh. Quite fun indeed
@RumpledNutskin
@RumpledNutskin Жыл бұрын
Thoralf's stupid grin at the end of game three is amazing 😂
@800mls
@800mls Жыл бұрын
I just want to say as a more competitive player I am so thankful that you guys have exploded onto the magic scene with your brand of content. The fun atmosphere that you guys portray magic in is mostly monopolized by commander content that isnt very engaging for a competitive player such as myself. Keep doing great work!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Thank you that is very kind!
@thorinhannahs4614
@thorinhannahs4614 5 ай бұрын
100% this I am not a competitive player but I see commander as more of a social driven game with less interesting interaction and nearly always going infinite to win.
@alessandrodellanno948
@alessandrodellanno948 Жыл бұрын
Jesús what a topdeck in game 3
@Intelton
@Intelton Жыл бұрын
Great production quality for a great constructed video. You all are really producing some of the best magic content!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@mewr11
@mewr11 Жыл бұрын
In the last game, Carl could have cast Flusterstorm to exchange some of his Empty the Warrens copies for Baral loot triggers to try to keep going off, since even without Thoralf's last draw the 18 goblins wouldn't have been enough to chump the creatures on board and then swing back for lethal. It's definitely not obviously better than just going for the goblin stack, and does present an amount of risk, but eating some - or all - of the copies to sculpt your hand and try to find a way to get to Grapeshot would have provided a chance to win that turn, rather than giving Thoralf the chance to topdeck something.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
I considered it! And thought it was too risky. I had completely missed that thoralf's deck is unlike regular hypergenesis when making that decision thought. I though 19 creatures was enough to stall until I could flashback past in flames and storm again because he would not be able to cast Emrakul's and Progenitus any time soon. Forgot that he was casting elementals and emissaries
@NathanKim-Warren
@NathanKim-Warren 21 күн бұрын
Could the emissary have been countered by the force of will in hand?
@codyphung7912
@codyphung7912 17 күн бұрын
​@NathanKim-Warren yeah had to look it up, force of negation is counter a noncreature spell, which i didnt know cause force is way out of my budget
@NathanKim-Warren
@NathanKim-Warren 16 күн бұрын
@@codyphung7912 me neither, that makes more sense
@mercadepalmer6967
@mercadepalmer6967 Жыл бұрын
Loved this, Thoralf and Carl played the decks beautifully. Funny and well edited, good job guys
@Narnach
@Narnach Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fun videos. Props to the editor who does the overlays and animations. Those are on point!
@NathanLipetz
@NathanLipetz Жыл бұрын
4:51 Chrome Mox doesn't exile the card as a cost, it lets you choose if you want to exile it on resolution. You also should probably put the card imprinted under it to avoid confusion of what (if any) color it makes
@stekei514
@stekei514 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a no-banlist deck playing against the top 3 format archetypes. Would really show why they are banned.
@Ornithopter470
@Ornithopter470 Жыл бұрын
A solid half the cards on the modern banlist can come off of it because they're strictly weaker than things like hammertime or infect. Umezawa's Jitte is banned because it was too good 15 years ago. It's mediocre compared to most of the equipment in Hammertime, and not amazing against infect. Sure, it can snipe creatures if you get the counters on it, but that still just loses to infect, because it's hitting you as a 12/9 or something like that. Same with the artifact lands. Affinity dropped every affinity card (except for Thoughtcast, in a few lists) because they weren't good enough. Hypergenesis is insane, but the deck is slow, uninteractive with opponents threats, and kinda wiffs on the not dying to hammertime on turn 2/3. Splinter Twin could *maybe* work, because that just slots into grixis control again and gives it a spicy combo finisher. KCI still doesn't have a reliable way to deal with a turn two hammer, or with grief/fury/endurance/solitude. Eggs is a crapshoot whether they even get to try going off.
@RockerfellerRothchild1776
@RockerfellerRothchild1776 Жыл бұрын
@@Ornithopter470 point is ban lists are pretty dumb
@deanlinden1635
@deanlinden1635 Жыл бұрын
Been watching for a while, I love your guys synergy together. The banter is fun to watch
@williamw8590
@williamw8590 Жыл бұрын
The hard cast simian spirit guide was incredible
@zzzjonny1989
@zzzjonny1989 Жыл бұрын
There’s no reason to cast the simian spirit guide. He already has lethal with grief attack + 1 from fiery islet. Also, grief has menace so the only way for Carl to live is by taping out and casting a creature. Thoralf can than play the gem stone cavern and pitch simian spirt guide to play archon. When Archon revolves, Archon will make Carl sacrifice a creature and lose 3 life putting him at 1. With only one, creature grief is still lethal.
@Ornithopter470
@Ornithopter470 Жыл бұрын
@@zzzjonny1989 hard casting the simian spirit guide isn't about optimal play, it's about sending a message.
@Rurrikk
@Rurrikk Жыл бұрын
I loved arena boys and seeing thoralf and jamin play in person is fantastic
@matthewhalsan6459
@matthewhalsan6459 Жыл бұрын
Damn, what an ending. I forgot that Sara's emissary can do that, truly a nail bitter.
@Playingwithproxies
@Playingwithproxies Жыл бұрын
That is the first thing people name in commander.
@arsenyvasilyev1063
@arsenyvasilyev1063 Жыл бұрын
I really love your videos like this I didn't play Magic when these cards were printed, but I started playing because of crazy stuff like this, it's always interesting to see, why some cards are overpowered Thank you so much for your content!
@NoobNoOne1
@NoobNoOne1 Жыл бұрын
The production quality in crazy good. I am no mtg expert, but you guys make it so easy to follow what's going on
@kurtgrgelwrx8376
@kurtgrgelwrx8376 Жыл бұрын
"I'm too silly" for prison is a hilarious quote, love it
@hermelin12
@hermelin12 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see that format again;) Also the Carl and Thoralf Chemistry is explosive
@poketech7192
@poketech7192 Жыл бұрын
LESGOOOOO BEEN WAITING FOR THIS WEEKS FEATURE MATCH ALL WEEK!!!! FINALLY!!!
@miguelbibeau8
@miguelbibeau8 Жыл бұрын
Started to watching and I can already tell the video will be a banger
@Ieafff
@Ieafff Жыл бұрын
LETS GOOOOO! awesome video guys I love watching thoralf and carl go head to head.
@diabeticmonkey
@diabeticmonkey Жыл бұрын
This was so fun to watch. It always reminds me that when nothing is banned, there’s a strange way that the game balances itself sometimes.
@devonlockard1236
@devonlockard1236 Жыл бұрын
First time I’ve ever seen a hard cast simian spirit guide swing for the win on video! Great content!
@Pistolsatsean
@Pistolsatsean Жыл бұрын
These gameplay vids have been great!
@willlind9487
@willlind9487 Жыл бұрын
I will never not watch one of these. Love the banned card lists. Also, this is a sweet UI overlay with the hands and effects of cards. Great job editing team.
@Drakshl
@Drakshl Жыл бұрын
I think this is pretty definitively the best magic channel on KZfaq now, or at least up there with the heavy hitters. I love the general focus on 60 card, the real attention to detail with the production values and the fact that it's all about the game. Honestly a channel about MTG focused on actually playing and talking about the game of magic as a game rather than as a product shouldn't be hitting an underserved niche in 2022 but it absolutely is. Channels about the business of magic, meta discussions about sets as products and release schedules, content on supporting products like slieves and deck box's ect and product openings all have a place but the core of the space should be about the game as a game, and this one is a really good example of that
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you to say! :D
@Mr_Maladroit
@Mr_Maladroit Жыл бұрын
I love their chemistry, they are so fun to watch
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@xander_man
@xander_man Жыл бұрын
Carl’s shirt is hilarious! The content is great, keep it up!
@niklasbolz4267
@niklasbolz4267 7 ай бұрын
Loving it, pls keep up the great work
@nathanielreichley4640
@nathanielreichley4640 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you again Toffel! I've missed the Arena Boys
@iclimbeverything2990
@iclimbeverything2990 Жыл бұрын
Dang I really freaking love your guys content! Keep it up
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Thank you :D
@baukeveenstra1364
@baukeveenstra1364 Жыл бұрын
I could watch content like this for hours and hours
@KKDT
@KKDT 11 ай бұрын
GG guys! Well played (and produced)!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you :D
@LelouchVi572
@LelouchVi572 6 ай бұрын
this was really good. hope you guys can do more no banned list modern
@Talos-wc2li
@Talos-wc2li Жыл бұрын
This is quality content. I‘d love to see more no ban list modern.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We have done it a few time before! Here is one we did with Gabriel Nassif: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocCTZ7B0kpPJl2g.html
@the7569
@the7569 Жыл бұрын
I much prefer to watch people play in paper then a recording of magic online. absolutely love how you guys have been making these videos and I would absolutely love for more feature matches. I'd love to see more modern, pauper, and legacy. (my favorite deck is legacy manaless dredge so hopefully one day that gets featured on here haha)
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Manaless dredge is a personal favorite! If ever we get back to playing legacy... :)
@Mefusio
@Mefusio Жыл бұрын
Just some guys which are happy with their jobs! So nice to see! Great video
@harmlessoffer
@harmlessoffer Жыл бұрын
It’s so good to see people just having an insane amount of fun playing super powerful magic
@TehKorwinMikke
@TehKorwinMikke Жыл бұрын
This was greatly pleasant to watch.
@CodiTC
@CodiTC Жыл бұрын
I normally don't enjoy banned list content but this was good!
@davec8385
@davec8385 Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! Looking forward to more no ban list modern
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We have done a few more before! Here is one we did a few months ago with Gabriel Nassif: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocCTZ7B0kpPJl2g.html
@davec8385
@davec8385 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic thanks for the heads up! That's another great video. I hope you have a great rest of your day
@Ian-qf5ny
@Ian-qf5ny Жыл бұрын
Thoralf is awesome haha. Ive been away from magic for probably 10yrs and it is a bit hard to follow being unfamiliar with the cards but this is a great series. Edit wow glad theyre showing the cards more in this episode haha!
@alecolson8360
@alecolson8360 Жыл бұрын
Damn I am digging how you showcase so many ways to play
@etienneetienne9545
@etienneetienne9545 Жыл бұрын
Very fun to watch, as always. Please try some unrestricted vintage ! Would love to see that. Keep up the great work, love you guys
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Wooooow unrestricted vintage sounds dangerous! I would not know where to start. Do you have any suggestions? This is a topic I would be interested in doing
@DraygaFlight
@DraygaFlight Жыл бұрын
That ending, such a good twist!!!
@cartu6432
@cartu6432 8 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to see Hypergenesis again. Just rewatching the video and Atraxa would be so good to that deck, allowing to even bring force with more confidence just like its happening with Oath on Vintage
@masterchaosforge
@masterchaosforge Жыл бұрын
Thoralf did a small punt in game two when the gitaxian probe was cast off of the past in flames with just red floating. He could have just waited for manamorphose to be cast and nuke the graveyard in response
@jadanejda9674
@jadanejda9674 Жыл бұрын
Game 3 he should also only give away 2 elephants, so terastodon can't be trilple blocked.
@liem8687
@liem8687 Жыл бұрын
Amazing matches!
@MarcP865
@MarcP865 Жыл бұрын
man, that Elephant shirt from Carl is amazing!!
@abusus75
@abusus75 Жыл бұрын
guy i ALWAYS look at your content. Your channel is awesome. Please never stop.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Thank you that is so kind! 😃
@abusus75
@abusus75 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic since magic stopped to do protour, paper magic is not a thing anymore on youtube, your are the only one with this type content and i love it
@siradzki5905
@siradzki5905 Жыл бұрын
Things like "Well I actually did that" "... no you didnt" "Uuhm okay, sure" *1minute later, police arrives* Is why I love this channel and the Moderators 😄
@WilliamGap
@WilliamGap Жыл бұрын
Love that content !
@herbhaley5895
@herbhaley5895 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome elephant shirt! If my daughter seees that I'll be on the hook to buy one for Christmas.
@bariltrailette
@bariltrailette 10 ай бұрын
32:30 best draw ever
@colgatelampinen2501
@colgatelampinen2501 Жыл бұрын
I liked holding ssg in hand in last game, would had had 8 mana next turn for archon to win through past in flames and would had lost less life to lands against grape shot. I'd like to see pauper mono-u faeries.
@jutton11
@jutton11 Жыл бұрын
I like how "yu-gi-oh" (the anime not the card game) this is. Life bars, showing us what cards they've got in hand, etc. Real cool.
@thorinhannahs4614
@thorinhannahs4614 5 ай бұрын
I find I like the more broken formats of magic. Something about racing your opponent or hitting them with the banana peel in G2 or G3 is pretty great. These guys are great fun to watch.
@maxTheOG
@maxTheOG Жыл бұрын
that last game was a work of art
@TimmytheSorcerer
@TimmytheSorcerer Жыл бұрын
Liking this and I don’t even play modern 😂 well done guys 🎉
@itsanoriot549
@itsanoriot549 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love seeing no banlist modern. Such a fun format!
@xwraiths
@xwraiths Жыл бұрын
The disrepect from the monke kill was great.
@nagsorinaste5658
@nagsorinaste5658 Жыл бұрын
I love no banlist games, always so fun to see what nonsense one could get up to
@chadjehebej2258
@chadjehebej2258 Жыл бұрын
Man what a match! I just love no banlist modern!
@DerringerHK
@DerringerHK 10 ай бұрын
15:05 Toffel predicts Battle as a card type lol
@SeanLarsDogma
@SeanLarsDogma Жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@colinsickels8013
@colinsickels8013 11 ай бұрын
this was a joy to watch lol
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
I'm happy you enjoyed it! :)
@MarkAvo
@MarkAvo Жыл бұрын
Toffel keeps the top decks coming!
@puppybytes
@puppybytes Жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@Habizbah
@Habizbah 11 ай бұрын
"I'm too silly for prison." What a great line 😂
@iamerror7392
@iamerror7392 10 ай бұрын
Omg that elephant shirt. Amazing
@cameronyoung303
@cameronyoung303 Жыл бұрын
Hey I enjoyed this video but want to comment on your Modern Meta top five video. How does someone build a different tier one deck in modern that is not in the current meta? Do they create to hate / counter current meta or is there a formula needed to build a new competitive tournament style deck? What would you do to create a new tournament deck, I am thinking of building in Dimir.
@marinusbrask8186
@marinusbrask8186 Жыл бұрын
Currently building a deck utalizing curious obsession and combat research with a spirits gameplan to win the game. Would love to see you guys play it😁
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
What format is it for? Do you have a decklist?
@madrahal
@madrahal Жыл бұрын
MADLADS!!!!!!! Thank you!
@Hard2killTurk
@Hard2killTurk 10 ай бұрын
You guys are awesome.😂
@yuripeggion434
@yuripeggion434 Жыл бұрын
Storm missed a very cool line game 3. You could fluster your own Empty the warrens, looting 1 card for each with the Baral. After that you had many possible lines, such as Grapeshot, ritual, Past in Flames, Grapeshot. Really cool video tho, keep up the great work!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but the spell would only be countered once, so you would only get one loot. I thought of this line, but decided it was better to have two more goblins and then use the flusterstorm as an extra storm count if I needed to go off again later on :)
@audunskj
@audunskj Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic You could let the storm trigger on Empty resolve to get the copies on the stack, then cast Flusterstorm. Each Flusterstorm copy could target a different Empty the Warrens copy to counter them all :)
@nicolocuzzocrea
@nicolocuzzocrea Жыл бұрын
In another life, Toffel could have been a really great actor (but he's a really great mtg player instead so I guess that's ok). Great content as always!
@vulkan5790
@vulkan5790 Жыл бұрын
“Lmao topdeck” -Yugi, from Yu-Gi-Oh.
@Netro1992
@Netro1992 Ай бұрын
Watching this again just makes me want to see a no ban list 12 post deck.
@gladvlad2755
@gladvlad2755 11 ай бұрын
Please do more of this
@riccardocosta152
@riccardocosta152 Жыл бұрын
In the second match you should play endurance in response to past in flames
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood 3 ай бұрын
31:15 one mana short of flashing back past in flames to flash back empty the warrens for another 22 goblins
@Dexsting
@Dexsting Жыл бұрын
Omg that elephant shirt!!!!!
@gonzalocruzfernandez6641
@gonzalocruzfernandez6641 Жыл бұрын
Please play hardened scales next. Id love to see it.
@zachgeraets910
@zachgeraets910 Жыл бұрын
what a great game 3! :D
@ryangainey94
@ryangainey94 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised I didn't see any Deathrite Shaman dredge shenanigans
@zachbadgett2101
@zachbadgett2101 Жыл бұрын
That was a good match storm is scary
@noty01100
@noty01100 Жыл бұрын
top deck of the century at the end
@mikemoyer8162
@mikemoyer8162 Жыл бұрын
My favorite modern deck I ever used was izzet kiki-jiki, inferno titan. So fun
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Do you have a list? This seems wild
@mikemoyer8162
@mikemoyer8162 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic oh lord. It's been so long I doubt I could remember it all. I'll see what I can remember of it and write up a list. Basically spell pierce and bolt the board clear to 6 mana and go brrrtt. Snapcaster really was the all star of the deck.
@sebihami1527
@sebihami1527 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a full power Lotus Field Combo (pioneer) Match.
@Bigd2k
@Bigd2k Жыл бұрын
A no ban list game sounds like it ether be a epic back and forth or over by about the third turn.
@JBlairMetcalf
@JBlairMetcalf Жыл бұрын
You guys should play neobrand in modern. Thank you for the great content!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We actually recorded a whole video with superstar MTG streamer Piotr Glowgoski (Kanister) playing neobrand and we had to ditch it because of audio issues 🥲 but that deck is so fun!
@simonr6268
@simonr6268 Жыл бұрын
Playing the Simian Spirit Guide game 3 was horrible, it just enabled the lethal Archon. Of course Toffel got lucky with the top deck and won anyway. Love the content!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
He played it because it was lethal with hardcasting the Endurance :) and yes, thoralf got lucky. How do you think he won a pro tour? He just tutors cards to the top of his library somehow 😅
@helhal
@helhal Жыл бұрын
Carl! I saw that shirt before but only today I found out it is an elephant 🐘 😅
@paxtonseagraves7535
@paxtonseagraves7535 Жыл бұрын
hypergenesis is what i play in legacy and let me tell you griselbrand emrakul omniscience and chancellor of the annex is all you need with litttle interaction you can win as early as t1 or against the fow decks you can jam turn after turn until it sticks and still win, the deck has some real legs
@NOMASTER1021
@NOMASTER1021 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, protection from socrecies, my favorite card type to choose
@anoobindisguise4337
@anoobindisguise4337 7 күн бұрын
11:10 Adding one mana to the cost of Hypergenesis would be pretty funny
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