Had both. Multiple units of each brand. Cardo Edge wins hands down. For all the reasons you said. For me, the big item was Cardo voice actually works. Screamed myself hoarse on all my Senas. The end.👌

Just beautifully done! Thanks so much!

Nicely done! We went with the Cardo. Calls, music and radio are very good quality in helmet. Comms are very good too, but they don't get the range claimed of a mile. If they do drop connection they did reconnect quickly. If you're with someone else or a group, it it very effective for conversations and letting your riding friends know what your or their intentions are. The JBL speakers do a good job, even at speed, with communications and music. Don't use the jog wheel for volume adjustments, etc, prefer the voice commands. Really like the magnetic mount, so convenient. Bluetooth works well Google, Bixby and Siri.

This has got to be the best, most objective and factual comparison of these two devices. Nice one 👍

Great review, totaly agree.

Still a great video man. Thank you for it! 🤝🏻💪🏻

Sir take a bow. A very well done comparison of both units. I used to user from their inception with the SMH range up until the 50S when the battery packed it in after a couple of months outside the end of warranty and they said"...oh you'll just have to but another unit'. I won't tell you what I said to them but that was the straw that broke the camels back and I bought a Cardo Edge and fitted it to my second Nolan N70-2 helmet. I haven't looked back. as far as the sena 50S goes I bought a cheap and nasty chinese battery on eBay, watched a KZfaq video on how to replace the 50S battery and I was back in the game using it on my main helmet. Mind you when the sena finally packs it in I won't be replacing it with another sena unit. they have done their dash with me. The Cardo Edge is a more enjoyable unit to use anyway and I can still connect via Bluetooth with my mates who still use sena's. As I said a great video and keep em' coming and a BIG thumbs 👍 up. Cheers.

Thank you for the review. Going with the Cardo upon your review

Good presentation. Thank you. I started with Cardo over ten years ago, but then went Sena because the communicator was integrated into my next two helmets. As per your assessment, both brands do the job, but I decided to go back to Cardo a few years ago for the majority of reasons you listed. Packtalk Black is what I have now (I have the 2nd helmet kit as well) and I am entirely satisfied.

Had both, Sena seems to work better for me. Faster charging, longer battery life. great sound and communication.

Great review and helpful in the comparison. From my research it appears really helpful to buy what your motorcycle peeps are running. These are both great units.

Thank you

Also, I am reading that Cardo recently released a firmware update that allows adding Sena easier via Mesh (only downside mentioned is that music cannot be shared to the Sena devices with this method).

A nice option to deal with the cross brand Mesh connection is to use a Sena +Mesh adapter. This way, as a Cardo user, you don't need to keep in mind to stay close to the Sena mate you are bridging with. And when you meet a group of Sena Mesh riders, you don't need to find one to pair with. Just switch on the +Mesh that you used to have paired already and that stay with you and done. This way you can even use the benefits of the Mesh communication in a mixed group of DMC and Sena Mesh, being able to freely move and change position.

Great job on your review.

thanks a lot

I got a Sena 20S a few years ago and it was biggest POS based on not being able to do updates and software/app was from the dark ages. Going to get Cardo next.

Awesome critic. My Sena wifi didn't work out of the box for firmware update either. It just wouldn't recognize my wifi (Starlink). Had to update via PC. As you said, sound can be complicated by your helmet. I bought a HJC i71 and when I close the shield the wind comes from the bottom and makes some awful gurgling sounds. I had to open the shield slightly to get proper sound. Going back to the dealer to exchange it. Update: It is the top vent on the i71, you open it at high speed, and it gets obnoxiously noisy. Unbelievable!

There is no comparison Mate, Cardo is far superior than Sena!

I recently bought the Sena 50s. The voice commands went downhill from my previous Sena 30. It rarely works no matter how I try. Learning the switch controls is a must. The sound is great though. Ext speaker port was a must have for me as I use in ear plugs with speakers on long rides. Sena has a smaller version of the 50 that excludes that port.

thank u so much. really helped me decide between between the 2.

Harman is the parent company for both Harman kardon and JBL, so I understand why you couldn't hear a difference. I'm pretty sure that it is the exact same speaker, just with different branding. Fun fact there are even more well-known brands in the Harman family and Harman is owned by Samsung.

I have had all the Senas and they all died from rain. Just picked up the Cardo. By far that Cardo has been so much better. Louder by far and no rain issues.

Great comparison between Cardo and Sena. I personally went the Cardo edge for many of the same reasons you described. I am trying to connect my Cardo edge to the CB radio on the Goldwing. I know Sena has a freewire bluetooth unit, that will connect to the Cardo, but I heard you can’t transmit through the Cardo, only receive. Any thoughts?

If you ride with limited or no people the HD spirit is the best bang for buck unit. The buttons can be a little unresponsive at times but overall the sound is great. I have it on one helmet and the new srl3 sena on another and the audio is as good as the srl3 and actually gets louder. I did buy the edge but sent it back as the voice commands were crap. The new srl3 voice commands are much better as long as you say hey seena and not hey Sennar, it's an aussie thing and from your kiwi accent it'd be the same deal.

I have the cheapest Sena you can buy. I think it's the Sena SMH5. I want a really good (the best) communication system next year. What is the best Cardo system on the market right now? I looked and you can get the Bold, Edge, Slim, Neo, Custom... I don't know which one to buy.

at 9:10 you said about Cardo, "Somebody's in charge". New with the Edge and DMC 2.0 no one has to be in charge of the mesh connection

I love your accents. So refreshing hehe.

Many thanks MotoNZ for this content. How does the Cardo Edge compare to Sena 50R?.

im bias, i run a sena i did all the work, and i mean, all the work, and the big thing, and something not touched on in your review at all, how you interact with it that big old jog wheel makes it soooooooo much easier to find, and adjust volume, im sure that, thinner gloves, and time you would get the hang of it, but thin or thick gloves, it is easier to work the sena, and if youre riding a vibey, bike, or its really cold, again, so much easier to use the sena over the cardo i know thats not important to everyone, some people think shirt, shorts, thongs, helmet, is all fine safety wise too

I have been lots of huge thunderstorms with no issues with Sena 50s, someone I knew had his mic in front of mouth vent which got soaked and caused probs

Sena seems to be the only one doing helmet integrations. Latest models of HJC (RPHA 71, 91 etc) and Shoei (Air 3 and others) support their respective manufacturers custom units (HJC is the HJ21B, HJ50B), which are just Sena devices with different packaging, so they're fully compatible with Sena units. The new helmet designs also make it a bit clunky to fit the clip on type.

Your best bet with Cardo and Sena bridging is to have a sena and Cardo on the same bike. Yeah. If you really care about seamlessly combining the two different manufacturers because you really think rider intercom is important, you have to do it. Buy one of the other manufacturers units. If you ride Cardo, you have to buy a Sena unit. (20S EVO for BT intercom or a 30S or better for Sena mesh) If you ride Sena, you have to buy a Cardo unit. (A PackTalk will do the job) Both of them need to be with you, but only one of them needs to be mounted. The other can just be in a pocket or tank bag. That way, the two units are never apart, and the bridge won't drop.

I've seen a thing about this before and they recommended just bluetooth connection to a walkie talkie or something that way everyone share a channel more distant more people

It's funny to me that people see JBL and Harman Kardon as seperate, since they are highly related. HARMAN is the mother company and are involved with JBL production. It's literally the same speaker, or at least made by the same producer. Quality difference aside, Harman speakers are not necessarily better because they carry the Harman name. Good review though!

The biggest difference between the two units is "rain" not "range."

Who wants to buy my Sena 50S, brand new not even opened. I just bought a CVO Harley and part of the heavy price is that they give you one of these units. I already have a Cardo set up and now with two bikes I just bought the 2nd helmet upgrade kit. IM gonna sell that Sent fairly cheap, I think they are about $350 new.

Great job on the review. Funny accent that Middle Earth one.

Can you review the Fod Sports FX10c ? They have Mesh and are like 115-165$ depending where you find them

Missing the main part - handling with gloves on my tour. I won´t use my phone during the ride and with gloves you won´t find the right buttons on the cardo easily. Regarding handling the cardo is no match for the sena and this is really important. Yes, there are some things the cardo does better but I would miss this nice wheel.....

Nice review thanks

I had the Edge and now have the Sena 50s. The Edge is better. The only reason I got the 50s is because the group I now ride with is all Sena, and the cross-compatibility BT mode sucks so much. I think it's awful that Sena won't just work with Cardo on making the MESH cross compatible. They can do it, they choose not to. That said, if you're ever in a situation like I was trying to make a Cardo work with Sena, just ditch it and get the Sena. It is so easy to pair them, and the usability between the two isn't that big of a deal when you're talking about how much time you're saving trying to pair across brands.

Cardo does not have mesh in the sense that everyone can connect in a group ride without pairing. Cardo is for solo riders and Sena for people that have friends.

I just want to communicate with my passenger- i currently just have units with bluetooth, is it worth upgrading to mesh? Is mesh just as clear as bluetooth? Also, Is JBL better sounding then HK?

What about the Sena kit designed to go inside shoei GT helmets?

I went Sena, because all my friends have Sena.

I haven't bumped into a group who's connects using their cardos while on the other hand Sena everyone is chatting

All done with this video at 1:40. "The units don't talk to each other in Mish mode, so I guess it comes down to "what are your mates using?". Do we really need to hear any more about "Mish"?

cardo it is

Before finishing the video personally the Sena is more user friendly and has better software but Cardo has way better sound quality

Damn I’m torn…most all say cardobetter but group I ride w has seba

Cracks me up every time he says MISH. Never had a Sean so can’t compare but from what I’ve heard and the massive size of the Sean I’ll stick with Cardo. Even though voice commands turn “radio on” when I’m not even speaking English 😂. I call her Barbra and I think she craves my attention… happens at least once a ride.

How is the sound?

Still have problems with Cardo software.....

Unless you drive only on Sunny Days, get the Cardo, it's warranty covers water damage. Sena does NOT!

Two issues that I have with them : 1) I just want good range and simplicity; basic bike to bike communication. It has been a while since I checked but, in order to get the best range, you have to buy the model with all of the extra digital garbage that make using them far too complex. 2) Battery replacement. On my older Cardo, you could not replace the battery so, after 3 years, you had to throw it away and buy a new one. I hope some of this has changed. So, do your homework and see what is important to you before buying.

Why would they send you the units for free if you weren't doing a review?

Sena 50s Harman/kardon is the best❤️

I've never had either brand fail due to getting wet.

can you say mesh?

When Cardo will make integrated solutions?

cardo edge all day beter sound than bold and more polite than sena

I started with a sena 20s. It was reasonably OK. The bike to bike connection was fairly unreliable. A 30K was bought for the Mesh connection. Yay, much better. Until the unit bricked itself. Sena replaced unit. Second unit was intermittently shit. Replaced again. Worked OK then went to shit. Stupidly but mainly because the people I ride with have sena , I bought the 50s. It has been nothing but trouble from day one. I have just taken the plunge and ordered the cardo edge. I will never buy another sena product.

I will never buy another Sena after 2 expensive disasters.

Everyone knows JBL is a Harman Kardon owned brand, and Samsung owned both brands right? So basically probably the same speakers with a different label slapped on it?

I've found Sena to be total shite, has never worked properly. My last unit just died, it was the integrated one for the new Schuberth C5 - way too quiet, the remote on the helemt was powered by a coin battery that went flat really quickly, the boom mic was annoying... and it stopped working after 6 months. The Sena I had before that - the app never worked. Considering how expensive these units are, it's just amazing how bad they are. I'm hoping the Cardo replacement will be better.

cardo is the best

The Cardo looks dated and the wiring is not clean.. I see you had to apply electrical tape to keep the Cardo's wiring neat vs the Sena which does a better job of hiding the wiring. I have the Sena 50s and the sound quality is not great.. sounds like a cheap set of headphones in my full face helmet. I might try the Cardo Edge.

It’s a brick: Sena yes / Cardo no.

What annoy's me the most. Is these damn headset never pair up in a group. It's always a huge hastle.

This is no comparission. Sena is absolute shite. Had a 50S for 1 week and straight back to the shop for a refund. Conracted Citizens Advive and they helped.....had a cardo ever since and love it

Never have got the voice commands to work on my Cardo, tried sounding like a Yank, but the Kiwi accent must be too stronk!

Apparently Sena isn't waterproof, cardo is. Says it all really

? neither of the companies know you’re making the video but they sent you the products for free…? What?

After a year of issues, replacements and firmware updates, I'm getting rid of my Sena 50R units. Nothing but problems: connection isssues, battery life issues, voice commands that don't work when you try to use them, but will start working whwnn i'm talking to my pillion. Not to mention terrible sound and not water resistant. Like really? Over priced peace of tech junk!

I wish this video was in English...

First time i rode in the rain my Sena 30K died! Utter crap and a waste of money.

Has Sena experimented with subscription-based sevices? No? Then Sena.

1. Nice comparison (but would be nice to hear the difference in sound of the mic) 2. It's mEsh, not mEEsh 3. Please, put your pants on.

Battery on cardo edge is very mediocre...

My sena sucks ass.

Mesh... not mish. Uuurgh accent

Mate, you need to seriously re-educate yourself on the pronunciation of “SAYS”. It is not pronounced “sayz”, the universal pronunciation is “sez”.

Oi crocodile Dundee what’s all this about a Siner ………it’s a SENA at least pronounce the name right if your going to review products

Sena with open mesh and unlimited connection. Cardo is better for less tech users.

Sena sucks. I have a very cheap chinese intercom, better than Sena in any way. More battery life, better reception, better sound.