99% of rav4 and foresters will never do this ,but my money is on Toyota's engine and transmission solid built.

Subaru AWD system is like land cruiser 100 series, with center dif lock without A-trac. Rav4 don't have shit but a simple AWD.

Ofc its the forester, subaru takes pride in their engineering and awd

As a long term Toyota owner, I think we all know Subaru's AWD system is better than Toyotas. But that's not why we buy Toyotas. We buy them because you can put 400-600k km on one and it will still run like new. Besides, crossovers aren't meant to be serious off-road vehicles -- they're meant to get you to your campsite and handle on-road snow, which they both do just fine. So let's not pretend anyone is taking either of these cars on the Rubicon trail.

Driver ability is questionable in log climb...hes doing burnouts.

Idk how is that surprising, Subarus AWD is Goated

Honestly they are both really meant for people who wear Birkenstock’s

Did anyone ever think that it could be the SKILLS OF THE DRIVERS?

Subarus AWD is just incredible. I have a 2021 crosstreck limited. I’ve had water over the hood of the car and it still trucked through zero issues.

Nothing beats Subaru’s symmetrical all wheel drive. I just got a crosstrek, took it to the top of Burroughs mountain and granted it’s not a hard core jeep trail but it’s still pretty rough and the Subaru just didn’t care. Was completely comfortable climbing and going over rocks and roads with deep ruts, just had to pick my line and the car does the rest.

I watched the original video months ago. If I recall correctly, the RAV4 actually completed all of the tasks about as well as the Forrester. I think they just had to changed a terrain setting on the RAV4.

Let's see which one can eat 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles. Winner is Subaru.

This is good consumer testing! The tests simulate trips to the whole foods.

Never buy a demonstrator.

Test should be conducted with identical set of tyres.

The Hybrid AWD RAV4 has an extremely long waiting period and its price keeps rising, almost $10,000 higher than the Forester. How many years do I need to drive a hybrid to save this $10,000 in fuel costs?

Fun fact: RAV4 was build under D-Segment platform, while Forester was under C-Segment platform. From the chassis itself, Forester already killed many upper class Crossovers than itself.

Ever heard of airing down? Just sitting there doing a burnout is ridiculous.

WRONG TIRES...on each of them.

This is a piss-poor test since they're using a hybrid RAV4 the regular RAV4 is actually really solid and if you get a TRD off-road model that steps up the game by allowing more wheel lock up with electronic clutches in the rear but Subaru's all-wheel-drive system is not a full lockup either uses a fluid-filled clutch type deal and I'm pretty sure all those Subarus are CVT transmissions which are absolute crap off road at least when you go with the standard RAV4 you get a regular eight-speed Auto with a torque converter in general Superior off-roader

You can see the FWD bias during the log climb which makes it extremely difficult for the front tires to grip. I can see how Suburu has been always using a better AWD system than the RAV4. This RAV4 is definitely an improvement over the last generation with more electronic off road features but it is very heavily reliant on the brakes to transfer torque from a slipping wheel to wheel with traction.

For anyone who wants the truth about the systems and how they perform, go watch Driving Sports TV. He rigorously tests both these vehicles as well as the Outback. In the end, both Subarus do have a better AWD system stock from the factory than the RAV4, but the RAV4 is still a good system. Suburu has been AWD in almost all its vehicles since the early 90’s; they’re better at it. Also the tires in these cars off the lot are very similar, so weak argument there.

Toyota is respectable in its ability to get you to and from somewhere and it does so reliably. A Subaru is also just as reliable, but Subaru can do just about everything a Toyota can’t, it handles snows, rough rugged terrain, ice, and honestly a lot of other things.

People keep saying wrong tires, they testing them each with their own stock factory tires, it’s fair game, Subaru takes the W fairly

There sure is a lot of pissed off RAV4 fans here. 😂

They compared the Forester to the weakest RAV4 Edge 😂 The clever rear diff, traction programs and even downhill descent mitigation are all limited to the gas powered Edge. The hybrid doesn't have these features. BTW, why not compare the Subaru to the TRD RAV4?

This is a tire test, not a vehicle test.

What ate the specs of the 2 vehicles? Are they comparably equipped vehicles?

Oh come on… at least use the non-hybrid Edge for this comparison… I’m sure the outcome might still be in Foresters favour but at least the RAV4 will have a mechanical AWD

The only test I care about is which one can best make it up a snowy, icy hill.

The reality is that neither of these vehicles were designed for this use. They're only meant for better traction in wet and snowy conditions

Test #3 - If you're driving either of these and taking them through situations like this, you need to consider buying an off-road vehicle instead.

Both look like brothers

The rav4 was in 2 wheel for half of this and the driver was incompetent. There is a reason toyotas are seen in offroad communities and foresters are seen at grocery stores.

Subaru is winner. But at Test2 depends from a type of tire and weight of a car.

Just get a 4 runner if you want to do off road the real deal

I know for a fact the RAV4 trd off road trim with better off road tires would smash this test as for the Subaru it’s needs better tires as well and this test would’ve been right on the money for these two.

Is RAV4 an all wheel drive?

This is what happens when cars are computerized,both are crap

Swap the drivers around and try again.

Whoever drove the Rav 4 has never off roaded. If it’s the same person, they were asleep at the wheel. You don’t sit and do burn outs in ditches and bumps or logs, you bump and run everything

Subaru is literally in good partnership with toyota. Also Subaru, for years, has destroyed every car manufacturer for a vehicles capabilites straight from factory.

2.4 boxer engine. Enough said!

Why'd the Forester get AWD and the Rav 4 only front wheel drive also both had wrong tires and the Rav 4 was straight sending it while the Forester knew to stop once it lost traction

Ill go take Rav4 for dependability 😊

Like someone would ever offroad their Rav4. It’s a motorway cruiser at best

Toyota holding onto their fwd system with pride😑

When I was comparing SUV's such as Toyota RAV 4 , Honda, Kia, & Nissan, in AWD system, price, options, Subaru came out on top. I'm now the proud owner of a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness, All I can say is wow! Exceeded all expectations, and I'm loving it !!!!!

This rav4 is front 2wd instead of awd. Should have a fair game.

This is not an apple to apple comparison. They are using a hybrid rav4 for some reason. In those, the rear axle is driven by a quite weak electric motor and has no connection to the front. It’s good for slippery conditions but utterly abject at any kind of off-roading.

Reliability: Subaru 🏆 Toyota 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

I suppose if I'm climbing logs and driving over offset moguls, the Forester is great, but in the real world, I would have something with an engine that'll go half a million miles before it's toast. I'll take the Toyota, thanks.

That’s not a fair comparison, try the TRD RAV4. It would be closer to the Subaru. Subaru does have a superior AWD. I personally own a RAV4 hybrid and wouldn’t consider putting it through these kind of conditions.

Subaru has the best AWD system in the car industry. Then I would say Audi.

Looks like you don’t know what you are doing. Next time get cars that fall in same category. All of them should be AWD.

Xmode engaged? If so, 1st or 2nd setting?

Subaru Outback is the best city/suburb everyday pot holes water puddles snowy days everyday driving affordable 5 passenger wagon there is.

how long can they be driven like that before the transmission and awd system break?

Would like to see an old element on that course.... also ATs or MTs would help a lot

I’ve had many new cars , including these two brands , I’ll have TOYOTA all the way !

My ford Bronco Sport had no issues with obstacles like these and much harder. Think about a bronco sport. Much more capable than either of these two.

But the rav4 was a hybrid…..

Too bad most of the time, both these cars only see mall parking lots.

Question, I have Sienna but I need another car( used ). Is Subaru forester reliable to buy ?

My 07 forester would walk this

The driving the Toyota on the logs was just hilarious to watch. Clearly a skill issue there

All I can say is I love my 2023 subaru forester wilderness🥰

I love my 2017 sti tho it breaks all the time he’s gotten me out of some really bad trouble 😂😂😂

Apples and oranges test. Toyota has a model that is almost exact capabilities

Damn these Starbucks drive through’s have gone wild

If u never drive a subaru, you cant say toyota is better 🗿💙

Wtf? how abt a test on reliability????

Wow.. the idea to compare these two cars. 😅😅

Set of tires and brains go a long way

Rav 4 is a joke...and just Toyota reliability hipe.

Next... Veggies vs ice cream. Which one tastes better lol 😅

And you can add diff locks to a Subaru too. Imagine how much easier it'd be THEN lol

I’m a die hard subie bro but clearly the difference here is in driving technique. The Rav 4 just went straight but any dirt rider knows to hit the angles.

Any test with the old nissan xtrail?

Subaru have better AWD system just give it better tires.

That log climb has to do with tires also. I say 50% tires and the rest is the AWD system.

Type of tyre also play massive roles in this kind of challenge

I have come to understand RAV4 is a piece of shit off tramac

RAV4 has better fuel consumption and lower emissions, which is what most people are more concerned about. And in the UK we get a 5 year warranty, plus an extra 5 years if it’s serviced by Toyota, and the road tax costs half what the Forester costs each year!

I’m betting soccer moms don’t normally off road 😅😅

急にスイッチが入ったように登り始めんのヤバすぎやろ(笑)

100% Toyota, isso não prova nada!!!

$60 a month for full coverage is crazy low, congrats.

Had a Forester. Great car, great awd system. But once the engine started playing up, nobody could fix it. 2 Subarudealers and 3 specialists could not make the engine running smooth again. Never a Subaru for me again.

I love the Toyota owners going right to reliability when they forget Subarus are well known for dependability too. Also there’s more space in the Forester, get wrecked!

Best car i had ever owned was a 2nd Gen Forester. 2.5 Turbo engine. The older Symmetrical AWD systems would make light work over the electrical AWD systems. Best car i will ever own. But certainly the worst for MPG. After the bigger turbo and remaps i was averaging about 15MPG 😅

Not to mention that Toyotas AWD system is notorious for over heating and shutting off. 🎉🎉

Rav 4 calls in big brother 4 runner… Game over…

Reliability: RAV4 🏆 Forester ❌

I'd still take the toyota. Toyota will last longer for trips to the super market and it comes in two wheel drive. For any of this stuff, get a proper vehicle

Toyota fanboys must be sad

Seriously, who the hell are really drives in these conditions ..like .5% of the population? These tests are a joke. And so are the Subaru commercials that show people driving through rocks/sand/mud. Let’s live in the real world.

Had a 19 adventure lifted and 35s. It was sweet looking and hung with Rubicons. We did quite impressive stuff with it. At 46k miles it could'nt handle the abuse so we had everything fixed under warranty and traded it in. It was my wifes and she got a new acura rdx as it fit her life better

Its all in the tires for the second one. If you aired down either one there wouldnt be free spinning

well I think each vehicle has a purpose obviously they are not equipped to do those tasks in the video both brands are good to do those things in the video they need height and tires with more adherence as easy as that