That's because Alonso is levels above Moyes as a manager and coach.... We was outplayed and outclassed in every area of the pitch Fabianski kept the score respectable

They're walking the Bundesliga. Of course they were 'LEVELS ABOVE' West Ham ffs

People are talking about this result like it's Man City going to sheriff tirasapol and losing 2-0 like it's some shock upset

'We were missing guys' Leverkusen also were not fielding their actual starting 11.

You know why? Because they are levels better.

"the gameplan almost worked" that is the story of almost every team that has faced them this season. they are different than any team in a long time. there is a reason why they score so often in extra time... its their gameplan to tire out the enemy and when the reserves are getting low, they are scoring.

Come on Carlton ... tell the truth .... The clown Moyes got his pants pulled down by the far superior Alonso

It's not that hard to be levels above Moyes! Moyes is a sundial to Alonso digital clock (a dinosaur in other words).

'I can't wait to see what he does' mate, you could already do that by watching Leverkusen in the Bundesliga... but of course your EPL arrogance is going to keep you from doing just that. Fake football fans.

Carlton Cole is a nice enough chap, but he's part of the problem with the set up at the club right now. We've got ex players like Cole and Noble who are supposed to be developing the best crop of youngsters we've had in over twenty years, and they have done a very poor job. Stick to club hospitality Carlton, please...

leverkusen is an example when there is no agenda behind a transfer or appointment. they dont care if alonso had the “cv” or if he was a german or ex player. or if the players are germans. only andrich, tah and wirtz are germans starters. in england people buy players just because they are english, ole was hell bent to buy sancho and maguire and 150 million were down the drain. now they repeated it again with ex eredivisie players another agenda driven transfer with mount antony onana amrabat etc again 200 million down the drain 😂 newcastle spent 70 million for lewis hall and livramento just because they’re young hungry britrash players leverkusen would have bought 3 starters with that money. 😂

Moyes out

does that make moyes a dumb old dinosaur?

Player for player, west ham are as good as leverkusen, the difference is the manager, we have a dinosaur that has 1 game play and which assembled the oldest, slowest and smallest squad in the prem after spending half a billion over 4 years, and they have a young, clever manager who wants his team to express themselves and by allowing the people around him to help, built a young passionate squad that he can rotate. It's night and day honestly.

He's definitely going to Real Madrid in 2025...for a Bayern and Liverpool position to be open at the end of the 2024 season and you decide to ignore that and stay another year in Leverkusen should tell you that he's waiting on Real Madrid to move on from Carlo Ancelotti

Any team that sits back like we did would make the opposition look good ! Ffs

A more comparable comparison would be man city vs leverkusen.

Close Your Mouth Majestic 😮

He's doing well, but he's lucky he got a good job to start off with 🙄 If he'd started off at Middlesbrough (like Carrick) or Derby (like Lampard) he wouldn't exactly be winning the Premier League. Whilst in Germany, there's only 1 challenger. So to win the league he's go to overcome 1 team.....🤦‍♂️

They are a good team but I would bet that Bayer Leverkusen would not beat Man City, Arsenal or Liverpool