You mean she's not already??? WTF??

​​@dfasht1304 Carol King is the RRHOF. Carol Kaye is not.

I wonder though why people like the Beach Boys made her record the tracks. Also many other the other musicians mentioned were themselves really good musicians and could play the basslines just fine. The other examples are surely just songs where they needed a bigger sound maybe and would multitrack for the famous wall of sound. But apart ofrom that I wonder why people like the Beach Boys hired her.

@@EbonyPope A couple of observations: 1) "The Wrecking Crew," as those studio musicians were known as (unofficially, yet officially), could knock out songs in a hurry, having the right feel, groove, etc., whereas the youngsters oftentimes didn't have the chops to pull the music off on just one or two takes. I recall The Byrds' Roger Guinn saying that he was the only one who was allowed to record his instrument from the group, as the rest simply were not up to snuff, while their vocals were the stars of the show -- they just needed the more-seasoned professional touch on the instruments. 2) The Wrecking Crew were all fantastic at improvisation, so (as was mentioned in the video piece) they could take bare-bones charts (music), and add their own groove to them. Hal Blaine was the famous drummer, Tommy Tedesco was one of the famous guitarists, Carol was one of the great bass players, etc. And you might have heard of another of the Wrecking Crew, who later went on to great fame as a solo artist: Glen Campbell, who couldn't read a lick of music, but had such a tremendous ear that he could make it happen with his guitar work! One final observation: It oftentimes takes me over 100 takes to get just one line right (I am a multi-instrumentalist and vocalist), where The Wrecking Crew could slash that time considerably. With home recording studios, our financial commitment is in our recording gear, and time is not as much of a factor; but in the professional recording studios, you had to pay (usually) union scale to the recording engineers, maintenance engineers, studio musicians, and for the studio time. Even in the 1980s, it was not unusual to spend $150,000 just to get an album recorded! Add to that the graphic designs of the albums, pressing to vinyl (or tape or CD), marketing, and so on, putting out a record was a major event for a large corporation! So one cost that could be cut down on was in studio time -- which The Wrecking Crew could do, and quite admirably, may I say! I'm assuming you don't know a ton about the "business" (and that's not a knock on you at all!) -- and I confess that I have never been a big recording star, nor is my studio in any kind of shape to host a Frank Sinatra or a Taylor Swift or whomever!

R&RHoF sucks.

You got that right !

Could not have said that better :)

They are a Joke.

Carol Kaye was great! If they put all the studio regulars in the various halls of fame there would be massive overpopulation!So many in the sidelines.Studio work still is lucrative and still is a world of no credit,no royalties,nobody knows you unless your good and don't mess up.Mess up once and everyone and there mother knows it.Years of excellence are needed just to begin a reputation.

They who????

Knuckle Hammer what about all of the other studio musicians then? Why is it if a woman does something men do all of the time regularly, it's lifetime movie amazing?

Exactly!

She’s on a whole new level of legendary. Amazing talent

Mike Simonian THAT IS NOT REGULAR. To be a part of a lot of hits???! It’s not about her being a woman she’s just awesome

I met her in Reno at a gig I was on. Funny enough, I think she was dating our bass player! This was the late 70s. Nice, accessible person. I was honored.

it should disappear

Especially when they are apart of over 10,000 songs like this woman

I wonder though why people like the Beach Boys made her record the tracks. Also many other the other musicians mentioned were themselves really good musicians and could play the basslines just fine. The other examples are surely just songs where they needed a bigger sound maybe and would multitrack for the famous wall of sound. But apart ofrom that I wonder why people like the Beach Boys hired her.

Unfortunately not on Netflix in Switzerland :(

I thought Carol and the other studio musicians referred to themselves as "The Click" and it was the promoter of the documentary that came up with "The Wrecking Crew"?

Ronnie Don’t despair. Switzerland is awesome (though I haven’t been there 😝). I mean the chocolate alone...just imagine, Netflix + Swiss chocolate. The Swiss would become the most lethargic people on earth! Lol

Netflix is ok, but the DVD set has 6+ hours of additional interviews you don't get on Netflix! ;)

Kent Hartman wrote a book titled "The Wrecking Crew" (published in 2012). It is an excellent book about Carol and all the others, with stories about the individuals and their work together. It is one of the best books I have ever read.

Maxi Mayhem my Facebook friend..havent heard from her, I wonder... Aloha

She is amazing!!! There is a documentary out there somewhere that features her and mentions her battle with sexism as well. Im a bassist as well and I cant believe how she flawlessly switches styles.

And that is where her genius comes in. Being able to create something out of nothing. In just a matter of a few takes. Time is money as they say and that is never more true than in the recording studio.

Maxi Mayhem so proud of you! Thank you.

Maxi Mayhem good cause she has inspired millions

I'm 31 and I can say the same thing. I spent the 90's in the 60's, musically.

Mahesh Bhenchod pretty sure Brian Wilson did write the lines of pet sounds, although I’m sure that Carol embellished them and played them better than anyone else

yeah, she's confirmed Brian Wilson wrote every single note

Are you serious?! Wow.

Bryan did wrote the baseline for pet sounds even tho she thought Brian was crazy Bcs the bass lines didn’t make no since Bryan give it to her Bcs they where in a different key but Brian was a genius! He knew what he was doing ! And created one of the most icon albums in rock history !

Good Vibrations, man. That opening bass line ... tremendous.

Somebody said they had no idea my 10 favorite bass players were Carol Kaye,lol. So true! If haven't checked out the documentary "The Wrecking Crew" do so. It's on KZfaq.

Well said, indeed... well said.

Well said, indeed... well said.

I wonder though why people like the Beach Boys made her record the tracks. Also many other the other musicians mentioned were themselves really good musicians and could play the basslines just fine. The other examples are surely just songs where they needed a bigger sound maybe and would multitrack for the famous wall of sound. But apart ofrom that I wonder why people like the Beach Boys hired her.

You beat me to it! I was gonna say the same thing. Magic!

"The note doesn't say it's male or female. The note is either good or bad, see? You don't think that way (about what sex the musician is)." and "We didn't think me, me, me. We thought us, us us... if more musicians thought that way, we would have a damn good business." These are the sorts of statements a real, pure musician and artist lives by. It's why she is who she is, and the overwhelming majority of "stars" since then are long forgotten. I've had the honor of conversing with her over emails, and she is as real as she seems. A treasure, really.

Exactly. I bet she was never recorded for diversity reasons: a real talent and a dedicated hardworker does not need such excuses and would rather find them insulting.

Rick Park 17-"@

the funk brothers and wrecking crew were, that era

Don't quite. I wanted to but realized that I was trying to take on tpo much. My friend Jason Damico can rip up the fret board. Practice everyday even if it's for 15 minutes

Thank you for the advice. I try to practice at least an hour a day. I can play Margaritaville and Mr. tambourine Man pretty well. It’s that damn C chord that is giving me trouble. At first I couldn’t make it sound right at all but with practice if I go slow and put my fingers correctly on the frets it sounds good. but my problem is I can’t switch from the other cords to the C quick enough. I guess that comes with practice. But I’m not giving up because it’s something I’ve always wanted to do my whole life. No excuses.

I was surprised they were so knowledgeable about guitar/bass stuff. Well done!

Graham Daw liar 🖕

Thank you for your respect for a female and incredible musician.

FEMALE

But she was just a hired studio musician? They could've of easily replaced her with an equally as good or better guitar/bass player

@@johnsamoa6761 Not really. The reason she was on all those records was because everyone wanted her to.

@@AussieTVMusic do you know anything about how studio sessions work?

She gives Skype bass lessons and probably guitar too

Oh she just said that on the video 🤣🤣🤣

I'd like to fire up my tubs and jam with her - she's stinking groovy, and chic bands never get enough serious attention...

@@aprilmoore2917 hell yeah

Yeah, I heard he even gave a bullet to some actress but my memory is hazy.

FUCK PHIL THAT ASSHOLE!! HE CAN ROT IN HELL.

@@manbeast If anyone ever needed his guns "red flagged" it was Phil Spector, and we'd all be better off for it including Phil, but wealthy connected people just aren't held to the same scrutiny as the rest of us.

Jerome Wagschal You were so right with that comment.A musicians magic comes from their mind and hands so really they could be playing a piece of crap Sears guitar and make it sing.

Steve Vai and Nita Strauss are well known Ibanez guitarists

I saw that 😂

That's Funny !!! Also true.

You can always fake it till you have it.

My ex wife plays bass & guitar & sings… That's all I ever cared IF she could play she started playing bass for one of my bands as a favor she learned a two hour set in like 3 days on bass that she never played but was a guitarist.

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Thank you!

Doug K Actually, she's wrong, it does, and not for better or for worse, but simply to make a different sound. For starters, women are not, on average, as strong as men, so they don't typically get the same volume that men do. Their hands are, on average, smaller, which has an effect (often positive) on their mechanics. The average woman also has better hearing than the average man, which means that they can produce more frequencies than men can, which means that they can produce a richer sound than men can. Women also have much better auditory processing than men, so that also gives them an advantage. There are many great female musicians, but arguing that they aren't any different from male musicians is errant. They are women and bring the unique musical skills that women have to being musicians, just like a female singer is a female singer and a male singer is a male singer. The whole being, not just the voice, is a different instrument.

you are a goddamn idiot