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Carson Palmer weighs in on what makes Tom Brady so impressive | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST

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Carson Palmer joins Cris Carter and Nick Wright on today's show. Hear what Carson has to say about New England Patriots QB Tom Brady an what makes him so successful.
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@FirstThingsFirst 5 жыл бұрын

How many games will the Patriots win this year?

@bustedrav 5 жыл бұрын

@thegamingarsenal1662 5 жыл бұрын

@xtreme1876 5 жыл бұрын

19-0

@n1kkmoviezz463 5 жыл бұрын

@Citylife_90 5 жыл бұрын

12, not sure if I wanna say 13 yet lol

@israelp348 5 жыл бұрын

Carson Palmer knows that Brady is the absolute best quarterback to ever play this game and he's right that people never talk about him playing in tough weather and still being elite.

@88thstreetpodcast84 5 жыл бұрын

Israel P Can’t play in that humid Miami weather tho

@Michael-je7rq 5 жыл бұрын

88th Street true

@Bidwellz9 5 жыл бұрын

tombrady isnt the greatest ever stop with that. hes not better than marino, young, montana.....hes got more rings, rings are not a measure of talent , he did not catch passes or run, hes not the best

@antoine121 5 жыл бұрын

Hater

@nickfriend4633 5 жыл бұрын

Tom 'The GOAT' Brady just had an insanely impressive weekend and people don't even realize it. He had no one to throw to outside of Gronk and turned Phillip Dorsett (caught 194 yards all of last season) into his number 2 option with 66 yards in one game. Unbelievable...again. Talked about this on my channel today.

@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 5 жыл бұрын

Carson was pretty classy to say those things about The Goat. Brady's legacy will live at the top of the heap forever never to be outdone.

@jackfeeney5919 5 жыл бұрын

I was 41 years old when Brady joined the Patriots. If he retires at 45, I’ll be 64 years old. My dad was 69 when Brady started and he’s almost 89 today. I’ve had the privilege of watching history with my father the past 19 years. Patriots fans are blessed. I’m not a braggart Pats fan. What do I have to brag about as a fan? I just cherish all of this as it has unfolded year after year.

@sualei7972 5 жыл бұрын

Carson is very articulate I would like to see him talk about football more.

@habiba7351 5 жыл бұрын

Same. If he does, though, I just hope he stays away from shows that are too focused on hot takes and angry debate. The takes are often so outrageous that arguing them is a mess and the angry debates take away from the content when important topics are discussed, because of all the yelling, cutting off and the obsession with being right at all cost that a lot of talking heads have. There are a few guys I really enjoy listening too because they are more poised, they talk objectively, they know their stuff and they are respectful of the person sitting across from them: Chris Canty, Carson Palmer, Ryan Clark, DeAngelo Hall, Marc Spears...

@paulb2995 5 жыл бұрын

Put Palmer and Romo in the same broadcast box. We can actually hear and understand the nuances of football with their eyes.

@jchess78 5 жыл бұрын

Palmer said he knows how much the pain hurts, Bradys response would be "I am Pain" "I Am the Storm" Brady is mentally stronger than any QB to ever play and thats why he is still be best at 41 years of age

@nilekhalaf4091 5 жыл бұрын

Great segment and very smart responses from Carson Palmer. I live in AZ and love Fitzgerald but how I would love to also see him with Brady!

@nickfriend4633 5 жыл бұрын

@ericforsyth 5 жыл бұрын

As a Pats fan, I love Fitzgerald (who doesn’t?) Have to respect him staying with the Cards, especially given that it pretty much guarantees him never winning a ring. We don’t see that in sports enough.

@dieyoung8259 5 жыл бұрын

I was in the Army, had went AWOL and was on my way back to do jail time. I was at the airport and saw Tom Brady on television move the Patriots down field and score with seconds left. That moment in time changed my life. I've been a fan since.

@ThomasFromTN 5 жыл бұрын

dieyoung Typical Brady fan?

@brotatochip3730 5 жыл бұрын

dieyoung I’m assuming you are on the run still?

@DaVontae12T 5 жыл бұрын

XxhaiasixX Fiction 😂😂😂😂

@sportsjame 5 жыл бұрын

They should bring Carson on the show more often! He's very interesting to listen to, very informative and likable.

@MrGwokgetter 5 жыл бұрын

Don't be mad Brady is still going. Wishing on anybody's downfall makes you a certified hater. Enjoy history while it's happening 😉

@nickfriend4633 5 жыл бұрын

@rubes1688 5 жыл бұрын

"Enjoy history while it's happening" People take it for granted watching Brady play

@jakeequality4277 5 жыл бұрын

Their cheating ways will be exposed eventually

@SaiyanGengar 5 жыл бұрын

Jake Equality So you’re telling me that Brady’s IQ in football is cheating? Just stop 🛑

@jakeequality4277 5 жыл бұрын

@@SaiyanGengar its easy to win if you know the other teams plays.....

@alainfournier4707 5 жыл бұрын

derelle revis said that whenever the jets would play the pats, it's as if tom brady knew what the coverage was on every play

@CaLbaTr00se 5 жыл бұрын

You know that's what Patriots said about Bill when he first joined and gave them the lowdown each week, right? Tom Brady learned from the best, who also learned from one of the best (actually idk if Steve Belichick was any good at his job, many coaches/GMs point at his guide to scouting as quintessential but idk haven't read it myself)

@MrGwokgetter 5 жыл бұрын

Hard work beats talent when talent don't work hard

@steveg8322 5 жыл бұрын

True

@argiestoke980 5 жыл бұрын

Well said

@jesusfaustino4672 5 жыл бұрын

Sean Clark Talent and Hardwork is the best recipe in sports

@nickfriend4633 5 жыл бұрын

@Miltonman100 5 жыл бұрын

Sports with Nick brady has not had a Probowl Olineman since 2013 ,6 of their offensive players were replaced this offseason and its still business as Usual for the Patriots. Brady is the greatest of all time and I dont understand why this is still a debate

@vickicutler1386 5 жыл бұрын

People stop with the Brady and Rodgers debate Rogers is nowhere near or never will be on Brady's level

@michaelpeach2833 5 жыл бұрын

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are the two best before the snap QBs ever. Brady knows who's he's going to throw to before the snap. 2.0 seconds from snap to throw. That's why he doesn't get hurt all the time like Rodgers. He doesn't need to run around like a chicken and make plays. Brady makes the play on Wednesday in the film room. That's one of the reasons why Brady is the G.O.A.T.!!! BTW: The 8 Super Bowl appearances, Five rings, 14 division titles, twelve AFC Championship game appearances, four Super Bowl MVPs, and three regular-season MVPs doesn't hurt either.

@jwall62 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpeach2833 You can update this to 10 appearances (in 2 weeks) and 7 SB rings, hopefully

@brendenyates8963 5 жыл бұрын

When Jenna's arms are bigger than yours..

@deemarcellino1333 5 жыл бұрын

You youngsters better appreciate what you're seeing because it will never happen again!!!!!!!! He is the GREATES OF ALL TIME

@ThomasFromTN 5 жыл бұрын

Dee Marcellino You clearly understand the value of trying to brainwash 'em while they are still young.

@M3333C 5 жыл бұрын

ThomasFromTN ^ Brady destroyed your team probably

@Gorilla_Jones 5 жыл бұрын

Tom Brady, the Mozart of the NFL.

@jayhunter9461 5 жыл бұрын

Carson Palmer is good at this.

@nineteenct 5 жыл бұрын

Carson should try commentary or something he’s really well spoken

@BJ-zv5nl 5 жыл бұрын

Brady is the best ever. He's unbelievable.

@nickfriend4633 5 жыл бұрын

@BJ-zv5nl 5 жыл бұрын

I think it's about time people really need to start talking about how Belichick is better than Lombardi. Not only does he have 5 Super Bowls as a head coach, he has 2 Super Bowls under his belt as a Def Coordinator. It's like a GOAT farm!

@denislepine535 5 жыл бұрын

B J Interesting take BJ. fIrst, RAIDERS FAN here. For me, the most out-of-this-world statistic regarding Belichick's New England 2001-present: 12 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES!!! They had so much success that we forget how hard it is to play in those games. Once again 12 AFC TITLE GAMES IN 17 YEARS!!! But there's so much incredible stuff with that team...Here's another one: 57-2 record at home vs. AFC team since 2007. Can you believe this???!!! 57-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@aristamas4196 5 жыл бұрын

montana, marino elway rodgers even peyton smoke brady. brady dink and dunk game manager.

@queenfanpiper6299 4 жыл бұрын

@@aristamas4196 NO

@pabloseykata6930 5 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised Palmer didn't mention that Brady throws with pin point accuracy. All you have to do is watch how many passes TB completes in tight single and even double coverage. It isn't the NE offensive line. Maybe early in his career Brady didn't have extreme accuracy with his passes, but TB acquired that ability REAL early in his NFL career. And TB is the smartest QB in the NFL; he can spot his 2nd and 3rd receiver and make the throw. TB is a huge student of NFL Defenses; he can read NFL Defenses probably better than any other QB in the NFL.

@jeffrussell1170 5 жыл бұрын

How long before they start calling Brady. FATHER TOM

@williamcampbell2001 5 жыл бұрын

Carson has found a new job!! Great work

@bubbagump1204 5 жыл бұрын

I just want to say that I think this is the best "Tom Brady" discussion that has been put on the air. Carson Palmer...you should be commended for your insight and candor. After listening to your insightful comments, it is obvious to me that if New England didn't have Brady, they would definitely benefit by having you. "First Things First" scored a touchdown with this honest and intelligent discussion about Brady and his success.

@nancypine9952 5 жыл бұрын

Brady is still angry about his treatment at Michigan when he had to share playing time with a sophomore, and being drafted in the sixth round. He still needs to prove that he's better than anyone else, that he's the best ever. Von Miller has the word CHIP tattooed on his shoulder. Brady has it imprinted on his brain.

@azraelidris1080 5 жыл бұрын

like Jordan and Leroy Smith

@rockeanes239 5 жыл бұрын

He will get one more Ring.

@michaelpeach2833 5 жыл бұрын

I hope so!!! He needs to win the 6th in a non-nailbiter game. Win the Super Bowl MVP, and retire on the podium. I don't want to watch a 5-11 Pats team with a 46-year-old QB trying to relive the glory days. I love Brady, but in a way I wish he would have retired after Super Bowl 51. Comes back from down 28-3 to win the Super Bowl. Perfect ending. But I love watching him play, so: GO PATS!!!

@kingleunitas5920 5 жыл бұрын

Very true! The weather is a huge factor for most qbs, not the GOAT!

@ericforsyth 5 жыл бұрын

King Leunitas It is. He’s even better in domes. For all the talk of ”weak division”, if he played in the NFC South, he’d throw for 5300 yards year in and year out and possess the single season record for yards. His stats in poor weather are that much more impressive when put in context, though!

@faveology 5 жыл бұрын

@@ericforsyth exactly.. Brees stats are inflated. He plays in a dome 8 games a year minimum and before that he played in Cali

@queenfanpiper6299 4 жыл бұрын

STOP LYING

@robborgese380 5 жыл бұрын

Great job Carson Palmer! Hope he gets more TV gigs

@TheFlash-je3bl 5 жыл бұрын

Imagine if Came Newton had Tom Brady's brain or if Tom Brady had Cam Newton's body

@janedherrera1916 5 жыл бұрын

Palmer! What a nice surprice to listen to you! At last a person I can understand at ease, and with the grace and elegance of doing so.. 😊 😊 😊 YOU GOT A NEW FAN IN ME!!

@andrewvillanueva4222 5 жыл бұрын

Tom Brady still has that chip on his shoulder. His heart and brain feeds that fire. He wants too be known as the best quarterback ever. I know he is the best quarterback ever. Brady reminds me of Joe Montana in the way he beats teams. He just knows when the receivers will be open every time. If his offensive line keeps Brady upright and he doesn't have to move around, it's game over for the other team.

@philfromkali 5 жыл бұрын

This is spot on!

@mfkza569 5 жыл бұрын

Tom got 5 rings lol

@ericmack9593 5 жыл бұрын

@benjaminschwartz1242 5 жыл бұрын

Carson is great

@jamesnash6101 3 жыл бұрын

It seems to me that a lot of people are analyzing Tom Brady. And I am one of those individual that is fascinated by this individual. The greatest compliment/grade that any professional in any field can receive is an A+ review by their peers. Video commentary after video commentary by Tom Brady's peers speak of Tom Brady being the goat.

@YoungDen 5 жыл бұрын

Do your job! *-Bill Bilichick*

@paulwilliams2024 5 жыл бұрын

yup

@jpr2745 5 жыл бұрын

Brady Beats u with His Mind and Decision making. Nobody has ever been better at it in the history of the game. He truly is a phenomenon. The best ever.

@VICTORTOBE1 5 жыл бұрын

LOL Brady can hit a fly from 35 yards in,,,, accuracy is what tom has in his arm...and that's how he picks you apart!

@lionlamb2702 5 жыл бұрын

I am a Man. If I could meet another man for one hour of lunch, it would be Tom Brady. Haters have at it.

@brennanadamski7740 5 жыл бұрын

Don't have lunch with him unless you're vegan.

@jbeasy5620 5 жыл бұрын

He's by far the best football player I've ever seen, but something about his personality that's off-putting to me. I would take that hour with Obama.

@JJ-rz4pz 5 жыл бұрын

@@jbeasy5620 I want Donald Trump I need a good laugh

@dannyteebone9233 5 жыл бұрын

JBeasy 56 and you don’t think There is anything at all glaringly off-putting about Barry’s personality, it would be an hour of him talking about all these things he has accomplished but shouldn’t really take credit for. If it was Brady he would be giving credit to everyone around him, including you for making the lunch happen

@thomarscarter 5 жыл бұрын

TB12 works with whoever he has yes every great player would like to have all great players around them but it doesn't work like that you take what you can get & make them great & that just what Tom Brady do he makes the players around him great just like LBJ makes the players around him great

@hamiltonnewhart3053 5 жыл бұрын

Dont let them fool you, brady absolutely has arm talent and is an incredible athlete. Athleticism is more than just running and jumping and physique. You don't become the GOAT without having talent

@leewhelan1111 5 жыл бұрын

What do the pins signify? Perhaps it was in the show and I didn't watch that segment. Thanks.

@crowd3r862 3 жыл бұрын

3 years later and he wins the Superbowl. They were questioning Brady's age then and now look at him. Got to admire the mans ability to win.

@Erikhengstrumcontent 5 жыл бұрын

I am a Bears fan, but without any hesitation, I'll admit that T. Brady is the best ever.

@TheOmengod 5 жыл бұрын

WTF is the definition of talent? Talent doesnt necessarily mean that you can run a 4.2 40 or run out of the pocket to make a throw; It takes way more talent to stand in the pocket! Talent: A person who possesses unusual innate ability in some field or activity. Brady is the most talented QB of ALL-TIME by a long shot! Nick Wright is not so talented with his assessment. Tired of hearing Brady is just the most accomplished QB! LMAO!

@bigmeechie9001 5 жыл бұрын

Remember when he was in the top ten back in the Cincinnati days miss him and chade.

@Maintohhoonpagal 5 жыл бұрын

Dude Carson Palmer is a really cool guy I was not expecting this

@rigelgutierrez9866 5 жыл бұрын

Palmer spitting facts 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@trieunguyen5897 5 жыл бұрын

Nick : *you touch on it Jenna.... *

@ZSharkPH 5 жыл бұрын

I need to get in the loop... I did't even know Carson hung it up.

@jamesbond504 5 жыл бұрын

Tom Brady will retire at 57

@rifat941 5 жыл бұрын

bondero i was thinking 55 but ok

@jacobmarshall2269 5 жыл бұрын

I want Tom Brady’a story to be a movie someday lol

@no0bbbb 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely will be. Enjoy

@901pics 5 жыл бұрын

Bradys game seems 90% mental/heart where most QBs that are gifted are more like 50% physical 50% mental/heart...image if Brady had played in a dome with elite recievers.

@busterbrown7719 3 жыл бұрын

Bradys like Michael Jordan of football,U will only see that level of talent once in a lifetime so feel privileged to have experienced Tom Brady in your lifetime..

@cliff4ever 5 жыл бұрын

It’s good to see Tom Green getting some work since MTV. Good on him!

@bullionsean456 3 жыл бұрын

This was a great segment on this show, but Carson is wrong about Brady not creating more time to throw with his feet. Brady has some of the best pocket movement of any qb ever.

@bastianarnhardt1069 5 жыл бұрын

Carson is an absolut EXPERT ! WOW... and very smart

@bastianarnhardt1069 5 жыл бұрын

Brady has now 6 Rings

@mamster233 5 жыл бұрын

How can Carson Palmer criticise Tom when Palmer didn’t even when a super bowl?

@brutismaximus1 5 жыл бұрын

I feel Lucky to have seen Jordan, Tyson, Lomu and Brady.

@johndawgsmoke1245 5 жыл бұрын

Whenever I watch a ftf video I always fast Ford Cc’s part

@warrenlamar4477 5 жыл бұрын

All great players know Tom Brady is the best. Carson Palmer, great career, 294 TDs is VERY respectful when discussing Brady.

@eddythinman 5 жыл бұрын

great interview, as always. It cracks me up how no one ever wants to talk to nick. carson avoids eye contact the whole time, just like every other guest. lol

@jwall62 3 жыл бұрын

And 3 years later, Brady back in the SB with a different team, what are your thoughts now? GO ..

@charlesstuart7290 5 жыл бұрын

When Tom Brady is playing its like one of the best Offenseive Coordinator ever is on the field making plays. I will always take Brady's brains with all due respect over Aaron Rodgers legs - which have their own downsides and not to say Aaron is a dope but he's no Brady.

@tamellnewton5417 5 жыл бұрын

I was commenting on someone else's comment it wasn't pertaining to this segment

@davidsundkvist7038 5 жыл бұрын

Aaron rodgers may have a better arm and all that but toms concistency no matter the circumstances speaks for itself , he thrives on pressure and that, as the numbers show, beats skill

@vickypettibone5026 5 жыл бұрын

Tom still does this cause he was chosen in the 6th round,and he was no 199, he will always have that chip on his shoulder and he has to prove to himself and others he can do it. Phenominal

@jelten1083 5 жыл бұрын

Winners write history. Go Pats

@Tackleqb 5 жыл бұрын

Carson Palmer has found his second calling. This man can commentate!! All board the Palmer Train

@DUBS720 5 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why they even entertain the idea of Fitz coming to New England. Ain’t happening, not ever. Same goes for Brady going elsewhere if his contract is allowed to expire after 2019. He will retire before playing for someone other than Belichick. Some athletes just reach that event horizon where they are career parts of their respective teams.

@DUBS720 5 жыл бұрын

AM 14 true. But I did say “some athletes” not “all”

@mangroveskipper77 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like he’ll go to another team for a little extra money

@Atr42Greasemonkey 5 жыл бұрын

Why do they always keep bringing up Aaron Rogers when they talk about Tom Brady ? How many super bowls did Aaron win?

@wakawaka1976 3 жыл бұрын

I miss C Carter but you need to be respectful at all times.

@AmericanDream317 5 жыл бұрын

Warren Moon was 44 when he retired.

@humnoy807 5 жыл бұрын

He didnt win nothing tho

@matthewsanchez205 5 жыл бұрын

“Father Time will catch up to Brady”- bet

@WHITEBOYSICK 5 жыл бұрын

Of course it will.... but there has been no better... enjoy history as its happening.....

@antnee8377 5 жыл бұрын

I checked this cuz of Brady but honestly Carson is good here I think he should do more sports talk maybe commentary...

@jacksondepiero8116 5 жыл бұрын

Perfect season and the all time touchdown record then he'll be done.

@zeekeeren8423 5 жыл бұрын

Can someone put this guy and Romo together?! For a newbie football fan like me, I can actually understand football with the way he's explaining it.

@ecassidy47 5 жыл бұрын

Palmer needs to read the TB 12 Method.

@bastianarnhardt1069 5 жыл бұрын

Germany loves Carson Palmer

@davidestate 5 жыл бұрын

They all want to know why Tom Brady won't stop... it's easy. Keep calling him a Cheater, an Old Man and that he will never Win a Super Bowl again. He will work to make his name a Guinness World Record holder by Age, Super Bowls and Numbers just to show people that all their hate and negative thoughts will not only eradicate all of NFL history but in fact keep all the haters teams from winning anything except a regular season game. The best way to get back at haters, is to show them that you will never stop your road to success but use their energy to produce successful life history.

@mrlee2708ify 5 жыл бұрын

He’s playing to be the first and possibly the only 40 something quarterback to win a super bowl! That’s why he’s still playing today.

@nesseihtgnay9419 5 жыл бұрын

tom brady the true!!!!!!! GOAT not aaron rodgers???? XD smh

@paulwilliams2024 5 жыл бұрын

exactly

@nickfriend4633 5 жыл бұрын

@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 5 жыл бұрын

Rogers is a prick~!

@TheCultivatedMind 5 жыл бұрын

Rodgers doesn't have teams good enough to get the Rings. Rodgers has been the better QB, Brady has been on the better teams.

@steveg8322 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheCultivatedMind Excuses for AR.TB makes no names SB champs. AR can't get into playoffs most times.

@terryk45 5 жыл бұрын

I just want to know how Squidward got on this show

@pedrowilliam4944 5 жыл бұрын

jenna knows a lot of sports man

@armandobroncas5597 5 жыл бұрын

Palmer is a Hall of Famer

@earlmcmanus194 5 жыл бұрын

Not quite, No ring or MVPs.

@ramonmonch 5 жыл бұрын

Sadly no but one of the best cardinal quarterbacks ever

@umaga3501 5 жыл бұрын

How many playoffs wins he has?

@earlmcmanus194 5 жыл бұрын

1-2, led the Cards to the NFC game. If Marvin Lewis wasn't his coach for most of Palmer's career things may have been different.

@armandobroncas5597 5 жыл бұрын

@@umaga3501 Check his stats

@wakawaka1976 3 жыл бұрын

Carson Palmer would make a good politician. He’s good at trying to sound diplomatic while being disparaging. Let me translate.. Carter: Carson can you tell us about Tom’s amazing ability to utilize all his receivers? Carson: he has a great line and it’s all them. Carter: How long do you think Tom can play at this elite level? Carson: he’s going to fall off a cliff in short order.

@glensavagequagmire7336 5 жыл бұрын

I take Heart over skill . #GOAT #TB12

@CaLbaTr00se 5 жыл бұрын

lolol Dante "Scarnekkie". Also, who's Bill Belichick?

@Oh_deer777 2 жыл бұрын

some of the comments in this video haven't aged as well as brady. lol

@kylejacob5529 5 жыл бұрын

Brady the best💪💪💪

@santiagotrujillo9374 5 жыл бұрын

Carson is smart

@guirishsharma1158 5 жыл бұрын

Same record I believe from 2017 ....13-3

@greatness8248 3 жыл бұрын

Lol this was 2 yesterday ago lol 😆😂🤣😅😄🙃😆😂

@jakeequality4277 5 жыл бұрын

They must not realize that CC played in the nfl

@sergiomartins8626 5 жыл бұрын

I beg to differ guys he does have 1 more thing to play for and that's getting the Patriots number 7 and retiring from the game with the franchise alone at the top in number of championships won

@Dennis-nm1jm 10 ай бұрын

Brady does have seven Patriots only have six Brady has more rings than any franchise in the NFL

@jackrobertson9776 5 жыл бұрын

carson intelligent

@myvids4329 5 жыл бұрын

Brady has never counted on arm strength or mobility. There is really no reason he can't play until he is 45, barring injury of course. He just never seems to get injured, or just plays through it which is probably one of the most underrated things about him. He got hit pretty hard against Houston just this Sunday, dunno how he does it and still throws daggers the very next play

@TitusOne007 5 жыл бұрын

Carson Palmer sounds a little jealous.

@rockeanes239 5 жыл бұрын

It makes U realize how long Tom BRADY has been the Best to play QB when U watch replays of His first few Super Bowls, and He is the only one still in the NFL. That was playing then.