Recreation of flight 529. a Lockheed Constellation (N86511) operated by TWA, a service from Chicago to Las Vegas in 1961. Music: Fading away far away. Don't forget to subscribe :)
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@garygrant96124 ай бұрын
In the mid 50's I was invited to go aboard a connie with tip tanks. A beautiful flight attendant saw me by the fence and invited me aboard. After a tour of the plane and sitting in the cockpit, invited by the Captain, It was at that moment that i decided to be a pilot and flew turbo props, jets and helicopters for 45 years.
@mbnemechek2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather, Ray McLaughlin, 34 died on this flight when my dad was 8 years old. The biggest tragedy of my dad’s life. Watching this video made a deep impact on me, truly put me in the place of those who were in the crash. I can just imagine, being nearly completely vertical, with items and bags falling on you and you just know it is the end. I hope they all comforted each other in those last moments. RIP TWA flight 529 The first time I watched this, I was bawling. It’s really helped me understand how just one bolt could have taken the plane down. I now have a curiosity and have been studying the crash more, and even plan on going to chicago to see the memorial and meet people who are involved in keeping their memories alive. Thank you for this video, although I hope my dad never finds it.
@christiancazabonne Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your lost...
@Jeanettesboxingchannel5 ай бұрын
My condolences to you and your family.
@redblade81605 ай бұрын
@@Jeanettesboxingchannel Your "condolences"! You just couldn't wait to use that word. Does it make you feel like a saint now?
@Jeanettesboxingchannel5 ай бұрын
@@redblade8160 What the hell is wrong with you? Talking to a lady like that makes you feel more manly? Get the hell out of here.
@maltlickytexas5 ай бұрын
@@redblade8160Are you ok?🤦♂️
@billy16734 ай бұрын
Truly one of the most beautiful planes ever built.
@adotintheshark48484 ай бұрын
they were called "The Queen Of The Skies"
@thehappiestleprechaun85223 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how scary it is staring at your eminent death when your plane is crashing. I've had a dozen or so nightmares of being in a plane crash since I started watching channels like these and it's terrifying every time... The ones I don't immediately wake up when the plane crashes, I oddly come out alive. Rest in peace to the souls on board.
@MPCFlights3 жыл бұрын
That's quite a vivid nightmare
@zoots153 жыл бұрын
You might want to reconsider watching these types of videos
@pradeepbajpai33823 жыл бұрын
A
@pradeepbajpai33823 жыл бұрын
Oh no 😧 I think no body survived i.am sad whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa help me God I hope everyone survives every plane crash is in your ✋ please don't let any crashes please God 🙏
@pradeepbajpai33823 жыл бұрын
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@lewiskemp58935 ай бұрын
My mom was a stewardess for Eastern Air Lines and loved the Connie. Me too
@eftate5 ай бұрын
My mom worked for Eastern, also. My siblings and I got to sit in the tail with the flight attendants one night from DC to LaGuardia.
@RaptorFromWeegee4 ай бұрын
My father flew a lot on business from the 50s through to the 80s. He said he always felt very secure on the connie, aircraft had a good feel. Said further that the feel of the stratocruiser was much different. Like rattletrap, less solid and secure feeling. Said it felt more to be struggling and lumbering up into the air
@eftate2 ай бұрын
My mom worked for Eastern and National Airport in D.C. and subbed as a stewardess.
@GnomicMaster4 ай бұрын
My mom (RIP) was lead avionics technician at Lockheed and she wired every cockpit of the Connies. I got to sit in the pilot's seat one day when I was a kid.
@DrMarianus4 ай бұрын
I grew up in Burbank near the Ventura Frwy by Pass Ave. and I recall seeing Constellations take off from Burbank Airport in the 1960s. Unlike modern jets which begin their turn shortly after takeoff, the Constellations used to fly south until about the Ventura frwy before turning.
@jeremypearson68525 ай бұрын
Amazing how one loose bolt can lead to tragedy on a routine flight.
@adotintheshark48484 ай бұрын
Funny thing about these planes. We worked on an EC-121 (the military version of the Super Connie) while I was still in the USAF, and they look kind of gawky when you're close to them. Yet, standing 20 or more feet away they are truly beautiful birds. Also, these planes had compound engines. They used turbo-charging, not to stuff more air into the intake (they also had a supercharger for that) but to return energy back to the crankshaft, thus "compounding".
@maryrafuse22974 ай бұрын
A most beautiful aircraft in its era and still appreciated today. Looking at the ultra modern shape of the A-220 it is the leading passenger aircraft design in our era.
@jamest24014 ай бұрын
The Lockheed Lockheed L-1049 Super Constellation was prettier. The L-049’s were more stubby and bulbous looking, next to the more elegant and streamlined Super Constellations.
@sofiaso9942 Жыл бұрын
This accident killed many families, father mother and 5 children, mother and 4 children, father and mother and 2 children. I actually stopped counting, most were family😭😢🥺
@spaceace10065 ай бұрын
I often think of the passengers and crew; their final moments in sheer terror😢
@RindaJane4 ай бұрын
Heartbreaking 😢
@zztops45045 ай бұрын
Also, DC8, DC9 and DC10 were cute! Wing on DC8 was awesome.
@andyengels13432 жыл бұрын
According to WGN TV News earlier this evening, CAB wanted the change but the FAA said a change to the flight instructions was adequate...
@dabneyoffermein5955 ай бұрын
Connie sits up really high to avoid prop-strike when landing mains compress
@Enid2Sacramento5 ай бұрын
Saw the one from the Planes of Fame Museum last year. Absolutely gorgeous!
@garypugh11535 ай бұрын
Best looking airliner ever, but I like the Connie with the pointed nose too !😊
@Dilley_G455 ай бұрын
The super Connie was a bit slimmer, not as chubby cause it was stretched
@rvnmedic19684 ай бұрын
After a tour in Vietnam, I wound up joining the NJ Air National Guard at McGuire AFB. This was in 1971. The unit was the 150 Aeromedical Airlift Squadron and I did training flights as a med tech for 2 years on a part time basis. The unit had Connies. Some of the pilots were WW2 pilot vets. The longest flight I had on one was from NJ to the Azores and return. Did quite a few trips stateside. Built up 200+ hours on them. Had a few inflight fires on the wings with an immediate return to base. If you are an avid Connie fan, I suggest you read "Tiger in The Sea, The Ditching of Flying Tiger 923 And The Desperate Struggle For Survival" by Eric Lindner. That Connie went down in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Ireland. The pilot was extremely qualified and a lot of the passengers survived the ordeal in the bitter cold ocean thanks to him. Great recreation, MPC flights. (We used MPC in Vietnam for currency- military payment certificates) Cheers, CMSgt Bob Powell, USAF(Ret)
@MPCFlights4 ай бұрын
Will read. Thanks.
@hardikgarg95553 жыл бұрын
Nice and informative video
@truthray28854 ай бұрын
Those were such beautiful airplanes. I remember my grandmother coming to visit on one so many decades ago. The sight of it was a Buck Rogers kind of thrill to me.
@Roy-uu4dg4 ай бұрын
The true epitome of piston driven commercial aviation! Make no mistake 🤠
@gurrando3a624 күн бұрын
I flew from Frankfurt Rhein Main to McGuire AFB NJ aboard a Connie March 1, 1962.Landed twice in Scotland and Newfoundland for fuel.
@jsl151850b5 ай бұрын
*Nice Graphics!*
@spaceace10065 ай бұрын
Some or all of these Constellations were equipped with P&W 4360 Wasps, weren't they? Such a cool looking plane! Of course, in hindsight, Commercial Aviation Travel was quite unsafe back then, although we didn't fully realize it! No ATC as we know it today other than Way-Point Beacons. With the old piston engines, the FE's job was very challenging. The mid-air collision over the Grand Canyon was a shock to the industry!
@jayreiter2685 ай бұрын
NO The 049 was a R3350 18B at 2200hp. The 1049 Had the 3350 duplex at 3250hp. The 1649 had the duplex at 3400hp. Before my time sen. 670828TW/retired
@davef.23295 ай бұрын
4 were built for the military that were equipped with P&W turboprop engines, referred to as the L-1249A and used as working prototypes, 2 by the Navy, and 2 by the Air Force. They were all subsequently returned to R-3350 piston power.@@jayreiter268
@billlawrence18995 ай бұрын
@@jayreiter268 You are correct, and I have often wondered how in ever luvin hell anyone could take the original 3350 at 2,200 HP and boost the same engine up to over 3,400 without blowing it apart. ( Of course, some of them did blow themselves to smitherenes. )
@jayreiter2685 ай бұрын
@@billlawrence1899I do not know the evolution exactly. Had to be higher boost. Maybe a changed final gear ratio to allow higher RPM. The 3 PRTs gave abut 450HP. You should be able to find the specs. on line. I was discussing the problems of the JT9 with my father. "You were spoiled by the 707. With the recips we changed engines and cylinders from the day we got them till the day we got rid of them."
@jayreiter2685 ай бұрын
@@billlawrence1899 Had to be higher boost. These engines ran on 115/145 octane. That is 115 octane lean and 145 octane rich motor method rating..
@tomchristensen33924 ай бұрын
Gorgeous aircraft
@sludge85065 ай бұрын
There is a memorial in Willowbrook, Illinois.
@ItzUltiX3 жыл бұрын
Good video !
@riverratranger14274 ай бұрын
Amazing to see the Sears Tower built in 73 on a reenactment of 1961
@californiadreaming92164 ай бұрын
Hee hee hee yes I noticed that also 😅
@ROGER20954 ай бұрын
Plus the lush forest around Midway!
@thedevilinthecircuit14144 ай бұрын
Oh! Thanks for ruining the movie! 😜
@sherylsocia44964 ай бұрын
What's so scary is that one bolt, wire, etc. can cause fatalities. I panic every time I have to fly
@itjustlookslikethis19 күн бұрын
Well, Lockheed also built the L-188, they had a problem with the wings coming off.
@elsiegermanos6473 Жыл бұрын
I need a documemtary of twa flight 903, none is available on youtube!
@colinashby37755 ай бұрын
Amazed the plane clocked up 43,000 hours.
@itjustlookslikethis19 күн бұрын
That's a lot of flying.
@BigEightiesNewWave4 ай бұрын
I flew from Georgia to Calif. on one I believe in 1961, I was 3 or 4 at the time, fell asleep, remember and airline worker with a hat carrying me, mom had her hands full.
@DigbyOdel-et3xx5 ай бұрын
The Connie may be the most beautiful airliner ever propeller or jet engined. The challengers would be the 707 or 747. IMO.
@redblade81605 ай бұрын
The Constellation was not in service up until the 1990's. "The last scheduled passenger flight of a Constellation in the contiguous United States was made by a TWA L749 on May 11, 1967, from Philadelphia to Kansas City, Missouri; the last scheduled passenger flight in North America was by Western Airlines' N86525 in Alaska, Anchorage to Yakutat to Juneau on 26 November 1968".
@Dilley_G455 ай бұрын
Freight services were run longer
@davef.23295 ай бұрын
We had a handful of them flying cargo in and out of MIA here into the early-mid 90's. They were all foreign registered though, mostly from the Dominican Republic. One of them still sat derelict off in the weeds in Sto. Dgo. 12 years ago when I retired from flying.
@redblade81605 ай бұрын
@@davef.2329 The point is, the Constellation was no longer in service as a commercial plane; it was only used for haulage by poor countries.
@bayouflier66415 ай бұрын
You are correct. I think he meant late 60s as opposed to 90s
@mattaustin21285 ай бұрын
Late 90s is correct. If it’s earning dollars by moving freight, it’s commercial.
@dntlss4 ай бұрын
Might be the most beautiful but for some reason this plane has always given me the creeps,looks like a Aardvark,that triple tail is spooky and that front wheel looks like it could snap at any minute when landing,its a cool plane though,definitely has its place in aviation history.
@CaptainAlFrancis4 ай бұрын
I started with TWA on the Constellation in July of 1964. I have no recollection of it having a voice recorder. So how did the conversation shown happen?
@cdc34 ай бұрын
First airplane I ever flew in. Still remember the night flight to England back in 1955 or so. It was a looong way up to the rear entry, hot and dark inside, noisy and I distinctly remember my parents had NOT BROUGHT MY BLANKY with us! Obviously I have never forgiven them...
@davidpeters65364 ай бұрын
It was a beautiful prop driven airliner. I had a model one when I was about 12 when they were being replaced by jets. For me the Comet 2 and the Concorde were better looking in the 20th Century.
@tommarck42964 ай бұрын
First flight. Midway to Miami 9;yrs myself. Eastern Airlines.
@chrismasina1514 Жыл бұрын
Funny how the month of September in history is synonymous with aviation accidents, the most famous one being 911 of-course with 4 aircraft in one day, but if you read accident reports from this century, I's say its pretty spooky
@BobbyTucker4 ай бұрын
I was reading a documentary on aircraft "accidents" and "crashes", there is a difference, for instance, when the aircraft flew into the twin towers that was considered a "crash", it was deliberate, in cases where a nut and/or a bolt is overlooked and not tightened, for instance, causing the aircraft to fail to stay aloft, that's considered an "accident". As I stated at the beginning of my comment, I read that in an aircraft documentary a few years ago. I just wanted to share that with everyone and I hope it helps to better understand.
@raywhitehead7304 ай бұрын
These were great planes. Many variations for the military were made. Great airliner.
@arutabaga82642 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I had no idea the Constellation remained in service until the 1990s--where? I've never seen one. Beautiful plane.
@MPCFlights2 жыл бұрын
Dominican operators Aerochaga and AMSA used them as freighters until 1993
@raven_11332 жыл бұрын
@@MPCFlights Who knows, Buffalo might grab one at some point 😂
@MPCFlights2 жыл бұрын
@@raven_1133 😂
@paranormalsecurity25683 жыл бұрын
This recreation is done before Mauricio ...??
@pascalcoole27255 ай бұрын
Technical detail: I think though the aircraft did fully stall, technicaly it was not a deep stall, as a deep stall is the case with a T-tail where the wings prevent the flow over the T-Tail-Elevator preventing recovery. The case here i think is called a 'full stall' (which you don't want eigther but from where under normal conditions a recovery is posible)
@sludge85065 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t cutting the power helped the pilots regain control?
@spladam3845 Жыл бұрын
Well done.
@AndrewGrey224 ай бұрын
One of those things where the pilots were not familiar with a small detail like releasing stick pressure to enable the manual system. Details matter. You gotta pay attention and learn everything about the machine you are operating. Especially when transporting people.
@thedevilinthecircuit14144 ай бұрын
It was an unknown fault due to a mechanical failure--not a training deficiency. Investigators discovered *after* the crash that releasing pressure on the yoke could have saved them.
@EuroScot20239 күн бұрын
I'd agree that it was a good looking plane. Super constellation has finer proportions in my view. But nothing beats Concorde!
@petergibson23184 ай бұрын
"This can't be". One day all of us will say that when facing our certain death.
@californiadreaming92164 ай бұрын
petergibson all those, including myself, who accept Jesus Christ as their God and Savior understand that, through Him, they have conquered death. Their bodies may expire but shall be raised again just as Jesus' body was raised again. Abar shalom. 😊
@jourwalis-887518 күн бұрын
Fantastic to see the red hot exhaust pipes in the evening!
@jazzi89253 жыл бұрын
SUPER GOOD
@richardmiranda6405 ай бұрын
Some people get off on death and destruction
@theworldwariioldtimeradioc86762 жыл бұрын
It’s odd seeing all the buildings that weren’t built in 1961 as the plane takes off. I do understand that there’s not much you can do in that regard on a simulator. It is a beautiful aircraft.
@christiancazabonne Жыл бұрын
Those simulators have the cities in the actuality...
@JamesSeaberry5 ай бұрын
Yes, and I was remembering that there were in fact cornfields 8 miles out from Midway in 1961; not now! Places like Hinsdale and Aurora were "towns", not "suburbs"......
@sludge85065 ай бұрын
@@JamesSeaberry You beat me to it!! No cornfields anymore. 🤪
@JamesSeaberry5 ай бұрын
@@sludge8506 Hahaha!!!! We can share the honor Sir!!!! Co-observers!!
@mohammedshanooj3 жыл бұрын
Game name???
@edsoncorreia46214 ай бұрын
Lindo, lindo parece avião de desenho animado !
@user-vd1vj8ti5b4 ай бұрын
Sometimes we learn from our mistakes and the tragedies of others.
@kathryneast69195 ай бұрын
What a tragedy.RIP
@user-px2xz1bu1x4 ай бұрын
The Super Connie is the most beautiful passenger plane
@jayreiter2685 ай бұрын
Ah the good old Cadillac valve.
@harsh.r7822 жыл бұрын
Game name ?
@bluetickfreddy1014 ай бұрын
My father flew the connie for flying tigers in 60’s😊
@zarrir4 ай бұрын
May God have these people cared for
@VK-zt6sw4 ай бұрын
Wow...
@HarryPrimate4 ай бұрын
It was a beautiful airplane and I understand why the landing gear was so tall but, it still looks like it’s on stilts.
@k.sgaming15353 жыл бұрын
Bro what is this game name?
@soysamuelrivas420 Жыл бұрын
Porfis puedes hacer el mismo video solo que en español
@californiadreaming92164 ай бұрын
It is an unfortunate reality that safety - in ALL industries - is written into practice with the blood of victims of oversight. RIP to all the victims of Flight 529. 😢
@johnstone76975 ай бұрын
Hancock building and Sears Tower in 1961? Don't think so.
@kirbyx47833 жыл бұрын
Originalmente lo habías subido en tu canal principal en español, pero lo borraste
@juandiegobayonacarvajal69962 жыл бұрын
si yo me vi este video en españos pero luego se me me aparecio este en ingles
@soysamuelrivas420 Жыл бұрын
Porque lo eliminastes el video en español Mauricio
@adrianvanheems80415 ай бұрын
It was a beautiful looking aircraft but had an appalling safety record with dozens of crashes throughout its career.
@daveth1218644 ай бұрын
Remained in service until the late 90s?? Maybe as a cargo plane in The Congo. There were no Connies flying passengers anywhere in North America in the late 90s. Maybe late 60s.
@richardkeilig40624 ай бұрын
Terrible loss of life. Bless the families.
@paullatimer1639 Жыл бұрын
It was labor day weekend and 17 of the victims were children.
@krakow954 ай бұрын
The constellation or the supermarine spitfire
@dc10fomin654 ай бұрын
Is this the plane that crashed in Hinsdale, anyone?
@user-mz6ok1hl1c4 ай бұрын
I think it is. I lived in Hinsdale.
@dc10fomin654 ай бұрын
@@user-mz6ok1hl1c Do you know where about in Hinsdale? A friend lives at Maple and Madison!
@jourwalis-887518 күн бұрын
A propeller plane?
@brentdykgraaf1844 ай бұрын
Not many Beech 17 stagger wings left to crash......wait ! Connie?.... I thought heading said sexiest airplane ever...not shortest ever service commercial airliner.
@raven_11332 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, but the Constellation looks so stupid yet sexy.
@timonsolus6 ай бұрын
The landing gear is really long because of the tricycle landing gear - rare on piston engined airliners before the Constellation. Makes the plane look like a giant stork on the ground.
@jayreiter2685 ай бұрын
@@timonsolus It was for prop clearance
@robertsmith98104 ай бұрын
TO ME IT WAS THE COMET AIRPLANE
@nmarks4 ай бұрын
The most beautiful plane of the 20th century was Concorde.
@dabneyoffermein5955 ай бұрын
if they would have done a aileron roll to go inverted it could have saved their lives, no?
@Dilley_G455 ай бұрын
No, you need altitude for a half loop, plus the Connie wasn't really designed for that, plus the problem wouldn't have gone away
@dabneyoffermein5955 ай бұрын
@@Dilley_G45 they had lots of altitude because nose was up and climbing, then eventually they stalled , but they had plenty for half roll and sustain of inverted flight
@jordancoleman24025 ай бұрын
You watch to many movies and believe what you see in them, once the wing no longer is producing lift and you have a mechanical fault also fighting against you is good night Irene.
@dabneyoffermein5954 ай бұрын
@@jordancoleman2402 fair enough , that is a big can of tuna in the sky at the point they lose lift, so it's katy bar the door, might as well try to save your rear. Think about the real-estate the engines take up that would otherwise be lift. in this bird, speed equals life (as they say in aviation dive alive)
@BobbyTucker4 ай бұрын
Anything in the category of evasive maneuvers could be possible, is it possible you watched the movie "Flight" with Denzel Washington? Just curious.
@bricefleckenstein96665 ай бұрын
Badly worded headline. Makes it sound like the Connie was a TWA exclusive design.
@edwardarckless31125 ай бұрын
A lot of this plane come down.not a very safe plane if you ask me.all of them that fly in this had no chance.
@thomasrice28884 ай бұрын
The reason it crashed is there was no pilot or copilot!
@Yosemite-George-615 ай бұрын
This is a drag factory... the most beautiful airplane of the 20th century is Concorde...
@alejandroeguren41874 ай бұрын
Well, "THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLANE OF THE CENTURY....." is a matter of personal intimate appreciation, that I duly respect. For me the most beautiful plane of the century is the DOUGLAS DC-6B !!!
@captainbimble5 ай бұрын
The Connie was a beautiful aircraft. But for me nothing was as beautiful or majestic as Concorde in flight.
@domherbin85628 ай бұрын
The most beautiful plane of the 20th century is …the Concorde!
@timonsolus6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. The Constellation is the most beautiful piston engined airliner though.
@domherbin85626 ай бұрын
@@timonsolus i agree with that 😎
@bayouflier66415 ай бұрын
Sorry, you're both wrong. It was the P51
@domherbin85625 ай бұрын
@@bayouflier6641 sorry i disagree with that Concorde is a révolution, Concorde is stil unique ,nowadays
@bayouflier66415 ай бұрын
@@domherbin8562 I agree that Concorde is unique as well as a révolution, but we are talking subjective preferences here.
@redblade81605 ай бұрын
Straight away, I could see the problem: there were no pilots in the cockpit, and the plane was being controlled by the mysterons!
@sludge85065 ай бұрын
Oh, no, red’s liver is acting up!! Put some Depends on, will you?
@redblade81605 ай бұрын
@@sludge8506 Your text is all garbled nonsense. At least learn how to speak English properly.
@sludge85064 ай бұрын
@@redblade8160 No, champ, there’s something wrong with *your* computer. (Or your mom’s computer, or your library’s computer.) I suggest you delete everything on the hard drive, then have a glass of milk.
@redblade81604 ай бұрын
@@sludge8506 You poor guy, has life been dragging you down? How long have you been feeling that way?
@sludge85064 ай бұрын
@@redblade8160 I was eight years old once, so I kind of understand where you’re coming from. So little real intelligence, yet a delusional feeling that you know everything. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@franktrovato23115 ай бұрын
Goofy nose gear
@loislane45835 ай бұрын
That plane was butt ugly...
@uprailman4 ай бұрын
faKE
@bill20664 ай бұрын
Why not show REAL video? Why Cartoons?
@harley92182 ай бұрын
Might be that real video from 1961 doesn’t exist.
@bill20662 ай бұрын
@@harley9218 i've seen lots of Connie videos.
@xavier91475 ай бұрын
Not sure that the most beautiful plane was American.
@aluminumshapingobsession28144 ай бұрын
Faked.
@user-nz4iy7lo3y4 ай бұрын
747 was better
@chasallallbright487722 сағат бұрын
Not the most beautiful,not even close!
@kenbulut-oe8sb2 ай бұрын
I had to stop watching because of the obviously stupid depictions of Chicago. 1961?
@andrewwmacfadyen69585 ай бұрын
Such an ugly aircraft
@ioloindeseo4 ай бұрын
making the real into a cartoon. i don't like it. ersatz, fake, imposter, false, fraud, all that work put into a fake...for nothing - got nothing else to think of except copying mistakes, making the false look real, isn't life enough. giving folks the possibilities of seeming to reminisce about ? a cartoon about the ... wha ? it's not art, it's not real, it's like burger king compared to a good steak, if that's your thing - like imo compared to sour cream, like ice milk compared to ice cream don't you know what's real? seems an odd passtime for the maker, seems a kind of a bait and switch for the watcher and it gives me too much, way too much, to complain about waste of talent, waste of time
@user-ip7rt8mg7w22 күн бұрын
Damn! You'd have thought that training would have taught them to release pressure on the yoke to switch to manual mode. I wonder if they did and it just didnt matter, they were doomed. Undoubtedly WWII PILOTS I'd bet. Damn!!!!