YEARS Beyond what would come out later, pretty amazing really in their look their sound their delivery almost like punk grunge

They sound beyond their time even now

Yeah, they were at the height of rock'n'roll, yet they managed to sound like some 2010's indie bullshit.

It's not Madness it's Joy Division

@@johnnada649 It must have taken lots of nerve to visit and appreciate the music of a 2010's indie bullshit band, then.

It's not complex music. Pros do that.

@@misterbonzoid5623 and a pro Steven Morris is

@@youknowwhoiam2771 transmission another good example

Anyone knows what is the analog drum synth pad Steven is using? Joy Division and New Order were so ahead of their time. CULT....

might aswell get a drum machine. its repetitive.

just as Ian was getting his groove on.. the camera cuts AWAY to Bernard who is was just toe gazing..

He could have stood in for Peter Gabriel in the "Sledgehammer" video and achieved the strobe effect without having to shoot thousands of stills.

@Damianous Roadkill hated midnight oil because the track .. beds are burning.. when i heard it .. sounded just like.. " tv man" aka "123 hail tv.." by the Bolshoi

@Damianous Roadkill I like Midnight Oil but like dozens of other bands it wouldn't have existed without Joy Division.

Apparently the way he presented himself on stage isn't how he actually acted. I believe his bandmates said that he liked to crack jokes and was a funny guy. But I think as Ian got worse, you could tell he was actually hurting inside

🤔Agreed

He must had some coke before the show and I ain't talking bout the drink.

​​@@badname8501no, he's just a drum machine

It wasn't Morris, it was the producer

​@@badname8501He took Amphetamines.

Calmly cleaning his shirt

🤣

Funny 😆

This is so funny 😂😂😂😂😂

Lol kkkkkkk

Fantastic!

Craig D very well thought out

Craig D 5

Goths choose to be Goths;what he was he couldn't escape.Marriage just sort-of happened(...without the pregnancy?).Epilepsy:don't forget that he had a client who died as a direct result of it - being 'sensitive',he would have fixated over this.More-so having been diagnosed as epilectic.As a severe manic depressive who - as I type this - am aware of the tub next to my bedside which contains close-on six hundred pills and one scalpel - I am alive to the fact that he didn't stand a chance.

by reading the books... they were normal people doing jokes and things.. music is a different matter

I'm so sorry ❤

So sorry for the loss of your dear son ...thoughts with you..god bless you keep ..you strong ❤

Hope you’re okay mate rip

I am really sorry, hope you recover that healthy.

Sending love and strength to you Xx I’m so sorry for your loss 💔

Yes!!!!!!!

@Stephen Menagh Your comment is basic

@stephenmenagh2160 have you not listened to wilderness he was doin a drum n bass kinda rhythm before it was a thing.

He ain't no Reni. They are all average musicians but together... perfection 🙌

@@SleepingLionUK Drumbeat for D n B is from...Ahmen, Brother... By the...Winstones... Bloody nothing like his drumming ya numbnut 🤣😂 Respect though ✌️🙌

BLUEPLANETJAZZ this broke my heart

Fucker you just made me cry I know how he feels

Bob D God is dead

Agree. He put it all out there... the anxiety, awkwardness, the hidden self...

Iugh Fn Emo

Best bassist i can currently think of the way the bass rhythm of each song by them goes is perfect

Yeah, how does he make the bass sound like that? I actually wanna know

@@yunarukami14 idk the specifics but it's definitely up to the fact that he's playing super high on the bass and the type of bass also matters, simple answer would probably just be effects

@@iggykad Yeah, I figured. Thanks, man

He is peter hook

Timeless Band

@@commandere.784 You know it is when 30 years later I’m still not tired of listening to them. Music connoisseur here and few bands make the decades list. 🔥

Ian himself never got old. Only 23...!

Thank you to understand him so well !

Absolute legend Ian curtis was. Joy divisions classics way ahead of time. Still love them and New Order

I agree with you, i am 57 yrs old but this music still helps me😊

I watched this when it was first broadcast. Thanks for reminding me how old I am!

Then, he tried to contact her and found out she died...

Cannabis would have changed his life

@@michaelkennedy8135 that's so sad

Epilepsy often suddenly occurs as it did with my brother. One day after climbing a mountain in winter, he had his first attack. Placed him in the recovery position but he smashed his new watch. It was very upsetting to see this but now he is coping well with medication that has fewer side effects. Wish that Ian had held on and survived what is an awful condition to have.

@@___Steinn___ Knew a lady called Rachel 37 years ago who had a grand mal fit and was taken to hospital where she caught a virus and didn't survive. Absolutely heartbreaking and had she not gone to A&E, she may have been ok.

Agree.....

Public image ltd live at old grey whistle test 1979

Lol you should watch more videos then.

Aj Ramirez you're a bitch

@Kurt Lamprecht you're a bitch

IM DYING

💀💀💀

HELP 😭

He still played some kick-ass bass too for a guy with only one ear

I CAME HERE NOT TO LAUGH SO MUCH

........i wanan let u know about this hidden gem song > faceless humming by the impures.. .....

Ian Curtis performed like he was walking a razor's edge for balance between embracing the hidden Shadow side of his deep unconsciousness and not allowing it to possess him completely and take control. The intense energy of the band is the confluence of the unleashed libido of the band members who at that age were experiencing the hurricane hormones and testosterone tornadoes that continually flooded their bloodstreams and engulfed their brains.

It's an epileptic seizure. I watched the film about him. Crazy isn't it

@@aedaly7859 he danced like this before he had developed epilepsy, he was just a very odd dancer

Leon I’ve been on epilepsy meds. since ‘90. I don’t know if they were worse in ‘80, but reading this thread has made me realise how they have f****d me up. I will think about / look into stopping (under medical supervision). My fits were often (always?) alcohol-related. I’m now alcohol-free, so...

If ‘80s meds. were significantly heavier than later meds. then I can see that suicide might result.

@@roloa7741 Well done, good luck to you Rolo.

Also with a weird sleep schedule(because of traveling) and the mix of alcohol would also the stress of his marriage wouldn’t help ether, but that would be a lot just for a person without it too.

I stopped taking my medication before the age of nine... haven’t had a seizure for many years.

Stoney Curtis ko

They do. Sometimes.

FUCK YES!!!! best analogy of IAN i have heard in such a long time

To whoever the message was from a minute ago- thanks! Damn, someone else out there gets it ! I just went to see a band and wanted them to play it- ! Massive impact on me from a kindred soul torn in two; broken hearts, loosing control- Ian Curtis. . .spills out the pain, his actions, emotion, says it all-look at him- I know how he feels.

J Ballapkt awesome!! Finally someone with some respect for my hero Ian Curtis! Thanks for this comment fucking haters.

Very sad soul

He see

Humaira Ahmed Yeah, crack

A hand what does it say?

He had lost control.

LOL MAGA

No shit

beautiful eyes, just like his soul.

Saddest???!!! Junkiest you mean...

He had epilepsy and was on loads of medication

Makes sense...

sorry, I love him too, buth he took many drugs

Best wishes to you I hope all is well

Fantastic read, all the best to you.

Dostoevsky had the same illness. In his romance "The Idiot" the main hero also had it. Dostoevsky describes the moment before the epilaptic seizure starts as something magnificent, empathy and love to everything and everyone, the highest state of mind.

Are you managing on medication? I was diagnosed with epilepsy 8 years ago when I was 17, honestly thinking I'd never be normal again. The doctors got me on steady medication 6 months later, and I've been seizure-free ever since. I can drive, cycle, swim etc. Hope you're well!

I got diagnosed today and have the same feeling.

it's sad that there was so much anger between hooky and bernard.. they are so talented. Hooky said without him it's not new order, that is true, just as the same way it wouldn't be new order without bernard or morris and joy division wasn't JD without Ian. They all needed each other and just sucks they pissed it away fighting all these years when they should have come together, but at least they made some great energetic timeless music between JD and NO.

most people (the band included) thought it was some sort of persona

but we should never forget that Ian took a lot of drugs too.

Yes, I like the Cramps too

@@darkmantis69 what happened between them?

Couldn't agree more. I only wish I had been old enough to see them play live because it must have been extraordinary

This is how I feel when I see Thom Yorke dance. I feel like it’s very sincere and honest. Having said that, this performance literally blows all my favorite Radiohead live stuff out of the water I think. This might be my favorite live performance ever recorded.

I love Joy Division but Boogaloo Shrimp (Turbo) is the best dancer ever for me.

@@rchester Happily I'm old enough to have seen them and they were just effing brilliant!

@@stevendarkentertainments i wish i was there to witness the band.

Charles Ainsworth spot on!

Bass tone is also incredible

i also thought this

It is better, shame its not on spotify or deezer

@@vOcHaZOv agreed. That bass into is so fkn good. Goosebumps

well said

Thank you. I really appreciate that.

yes, whatever you said joy division all day

Elizabeth Hann, I'm Italian but I'm certain that no television network in the entire world is capable of doing what the BBC do.

@@benedettobruno1669 What

Top class post Hazy.

you are right,are you old enough to remember when people with epislepsy wore learhter helmets like rugby players so they didnt hurt themselves it was so sad .curtis had so many other thing to deal with it was a shame for him in them days i belive he had no choice over his decission back then inyet now he be ok not funny eh

👍

Genius😂? More like a depressed guy who has a nice voice Crybaby hanged himself he's sinful and goes straight to hell

He left his mark on this earth with 2 of the best albums ever, still utterly relatable and ground breaking for me

I'm sure there are other singers with the same kind of energy out there, but I haven't seen them yet. To assume there is only one is just gatekeeping; there are millions of musicians, you never know. One singer I can think of with a similar energy is the lead singer of Swans. There's the live performance of "Beautiful Child". I didn't see similar dancing and the vocals are louder, but the energy I felt watching it was the same I felt watching the performance of "She's Lost Control".

What i dont like is the way Bernard is sooo self centered in his guitar he doesnt even check to see if Ian is ok whereas Hooky does @3:06 ...RESPECT

@@martinparker9249 yeah, really...

@@wrath6158 Yeah.... read about why Hooky left the band

@@wrath6158 In a court case recently "Hook’s barrister Mark Wyeth QC said the “clandestine, premeditated and deliberate” move had cost the bassist £2.3m by October last year and his losses were continuing. Mr Wyeth said: “It was as though George Harrison and Ringo Starr had got together at George’s house one Friday night and had acted together to divest Paul McCartney of his shareholding in the Beatles, and didn’t tell Yoko about it either.” New Order Ltd has generated £7.8m income over four years, the court heard. Hook is receiving 1.25% of the band’s royalties and other income from merchandising and performances. But he wants up to 12.5%.

I love your comments!!!

Well said.

Wow! Amazing words ever!

"...In this COLONY!" Punkafka, sure as shit.

I love Kafka. So I get what you mean. Art as a wound.

Ian was actually a fan of Kafka- Colony is a reference to Kafka's "In The Penal Colony" and the idea of the guitar riff was to sound like the mechanical torture machine from the story

June 30 24

ugh same here they're so fucking amazing

I would give anything to go back in time and try to stop him taking his own life. Even if it meant I could never hear another Joy Division song again.

Zelda Strokes same

Jeff Walker he'd probably kill him self again. The first time he tried to kill himself, he failed but if in a third time, he's gonna do it

my friend did I saw n o in 81

Yes. Incredible

They are so good live, I wish they had more live perfomances on youtube

Yep what cool music - Bonham would be proud of em x

His dancing😅😅😅😅

The beats moved him to dance.

john bachak I don't think he was true only epileptic persone to dance this way! I used to dance like him when I was epileptic in my youth and taking polls that also released me as well. ..

+pol pol Disturbing is a pretty apt word actually. Be careful about being offended, it's more trouble than it's worth.

john bachak damn straight!

Ronan RiemanJohns shutty

I can't believe you saw this live! ...I was thinking how electric it would have been to hear & see live... lucky you!!!

Saw them twice opening for the Buzzcocks on 27 and 28 November 1979. I was stunned by the performances, as was everyone else who witnessed them.

Manchester Apollo was the venue.

@@Jefferson1969-u4s Tell us more!!

I agree

lol

He's so bad 😂😂👎🏼

The anger and frustration in his voice ..

@@Opuss55 way better than you, stupid muppet.

Hello look up this song is good like this one / faceless humming by The Impures

You haven't listened to Tangerine Dream then.

What playing three chords and dancing like a 60 year old on ecstasy is genius.

I feel like i could run the 100metres in under 10 seconds if this song was on before the race

“Dancing”

555cmon watch the movie “ 24 hr party people” you’ll love it.

What does, ahem ‘Precision Rock drummer’ mean? It means nothing.

@@eyelevelxyz6088 Not anymore with electronicsl.

he had very sad eyes

And not afraid of new technology i.e. the percussion synth making the whip cracking sound.

True, it's like surf rock level of drumming. Stephen Morris, the drummer in the video, also stated that his style was inspired by krautrock.

​@@phoenixdaronco9540And Ian's voice style is a mix between Jim Morrison, Lou Reed and the vocalist of The Cramps

A bit dark but made me laugh.

Regarding the historical musical value of any CLEAR Joy Division shows, seeing how Ian's dancing became so iconic, I wonder if the moron who cut away from him twice as he was going berserk now regrets that. I get so pissed EVERY time I watch this and it cuts away. 😠

@@BrookeWinter82 the footage from all of the cameras is in a vault somewhere no doubt. It's multi camera..so either it ended up on the cutting room floor or the full performance from all cameras is out there hiding. I'd go with it being in a vault.

was exactly what i was thinking too! this sucker missed totally the more interesting part of the performance!

@@JBomb517 You just may be right. Why it's not released still makes no sense to me. We deserve to see as much Ian as possible. It's such amazing footage we are missing out on. Maybe one day...

jesus fucking christ...

@@scorchioD BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Ian was an honor student and he stole prescription meds at 16 from an old folks' home and had to get his stomach pumped after his Dad found him lying on the floor. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Ian was sensitive to sunlight and his hands would inflame, swelling up red if he was in the sun too long. This isn't a common condition but there are some people around who are sunlight sensitive (though I can't say their hands swell up too.) As if that wasn't enough, he died the same day Mt. St Helens blew up; he died early in the morning before sunrise but it was after the birds woke up so maybe he died 7 - 8 hours before Mt. St Helens exploded and sent so much volcanic ash 40 miles away that towns had to sweep it up for weeks. I don't think I listed it all but when a person gets into the depths Ian Curtis went through, it's just one thing after the other.

@@101Volts No fucking way!!!! wow... no wonder then...

Austin Lucas l

If only he had cbd back then. It’s helped numerous kids with epilepsy.

They were right. I’d like to promote some violence on that editor for cutting away on Ian’s dancing

LOL no way ! Too funny.

Or because it was just weird af

@@strangebrew1231 Weird? Are you out of your mind dude? The dancing is gorgious, is pure and raw punk feeling, it's a fucking dance not a crime televised.

@@strangebrew1231 people are weird. stop expecting them to conform to your boring expectations

Jayson Wilson definitely one of the many most under rated drummers of all time

And tight as a drum machine. I read in his book that he would be physically exhausted when they would play disorder and then transmission in succession because of the very swift fills. Funny guy. He has actually written "Playing either of the two songs was tiring enough, but both played in quick succession was like running a one-minute mile".

Not at all? He doesn't even deserve a place among the top 1000.

John Nada Why? He’s innovative because he added electronics to his kit with that style of playing. You don’t have to be technically gifted to be innovative man. Top 1000? You must hate him

@@jaysonwilson2697 He's trolling the comments pal, ignore him.

Welcome to the party!

The soundtrack to my youth, you obviously have great taste

A another band spin off from this one after the front man died

@@saggery4438 Don't be a knob. It was just a nice comment. No need to correct.

​@@blobby915 He probably meant that it's not nice to generalise. Brits or not, it's their music that matters.

@@saggery4438 27 August 2020, Palermo, Sicily, Italy. Saggery, naturally you have your own views but from a non-British point of view (I am Sicilian) it is definitely Britain, its culture, the way it upbrings its people, perhaps its weather or, who knows some mysterious substance in the tap water you all drink. I have thought about it for long and I can decree that apart from that island called Great Britain, no other country in the entire World, not even the U.S.A. has been able to produce top quality music and bands like the Cocteau Twins, Prefab Sprouts, Lloyd Cole & The Commotion, The The, Napalm Death, Siouxsie And The Banshees, Led Zeppelin, Yazoo, Iron Maiden, Discharge, Police, Lush, Blur, Skunk Anansie, The Smiths, Fall, Sex Pistols, Human League, Buzzcocks, Jamiroquai, Clash, Wire, Madness, Broadcast, The Beatles, Cure, Depeche Mode, Radiohead, Goldfrapp, Dubstar, Charlatans, Ride, Heaven 17, Judas Priest, Marillion, Throbbing Gristle, Curve, Cardiacs, Dire Straits, Teardrop Explodes, Carcass, Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark, Eurythmics, Soft Cell, Dead Or Alive, Psychedelic Furs, Killing Joke, Simple Minds, XTC, The Streets, Lily Allen, Tears For Fears, Supertramp, The Kooks, Duran Duran, Groove Armada, Genesis, Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, Saxon, Dead Can Dance, Massive Attack, Electric Light Orchestra, The Who, Inspiral Carpets, The Wedding Presents, Kate Bush, The Rolling Stones, Housemartins, Visage, The Jam, Boards Of Canada, Howard Jones, Suede, Everything But The Girl, Roxy Music, Pink Floyd, Frankie Goes To Hollywood, 10cc, Ladytron, Japan, Morcheeba, Helen Love, Mark Ronson, Pretenders, Bauhaus, Kate Nash, Lotus Eaters, Black Sabbath, Jam, Slowdive, Oasis, The Sundays, All Saints, Portishead, Verve, David Bowie, Bauhaus, Elastica, Adam & The Ants, Nick Kershaw, Hey Elastica, Spandau Ballet, Supergrass, Badly Drawn Boy, Tricky, Pale Saints, Cranes, The Creatures, Public Image Limited, Bronski Beat, Fine Young Cannibals, Madness, Extreme Noise Terror, Stranglers, Stereolab, Keane, Motorhead... You say I shouldn't thank Britain but actually it looks like it all happens within the borders of your island.

@Alberto Mendez Yep! "This fortress built by Nature for her self".

I want to apologize for this crappy band. Utter bunch of useless idiots.

Hooky / Morris thought wow - what is going on with his dancing / arms.. When Ian said they just didn't understand, when i would go out there, I would give it everything that I had and then they wanted to go on tour to the usa! You can clearly see his erratic arm movement dancing is almost like pure energy needing to be released and that's how he expressed himself..

@syntikkamies it wasn't. that was just Ian losing himself in the music.

@syntikkamies omg. If you have an epileptic seizure you cant control any part of the body. So he would be lying on floor not able to sing

@syntikkamies if anything the dancing is a little to blame for his epilepsy; getting himself into that wild state while he performed would trigger him (along with the lights and intoxicated state he was in) into having seizures

@@wztanker6136 there are many times that him falling to the floor seizing was the end result of this

Very true. Never seen anything so pure and powerfull.

153 thumbs up: Seven of the disciples-Peter, Thomas, Nathanael, the sons of Zebedee, and two others decided to go fishing one evening after the Resurrection of Jesus, but caught nothing that night. Early the next morning, Jesus (whom they had not recognised) called out to them from the shore: Friends, haven't you any fish?" When they reply "No", Jesus responds: "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some".After doing so, "they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish". Realising the identity of their advisor, the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, "It is the Lord!" at which Peter jumped into the water to meet him, while the remaining disciples followed in the boat, towing the net, which proved to be full of 153 large fish :) /babyJesus from Sweden

@@solarisnatuson7928 shush

Hearth and soul

I'll second that!

💯

"raised on punk" - punk had only been around for 3 years when this came out, so...

There was a lot of great music around at that time post Punk, it didn't sound otherworldly it suited the time it was from. The kid's becoming adults then would have been "raised" on British Glam rock like Bowie, Roxy Music, Slade, T-Rex and so was Ian. I was a little younger so I was a Wombles guy😅😅😅.

Please be well

Me too. The riff from this performance is one of my ringtones.

Me too, incredible

this is like one of the coolest songs, the live version at bowden club is cool too

It gets better every time

oh man, how lucky

Sorry, do you know what underrated means? Wildly popular and profoundly loved does not mean underrated

Same ❤...and I still will be for as long as I'm on this planet

no doubt

Timeless...

Idioten reden eigentlich immer ! Meist über Dinge, wovon sie null Wissen haben ...

ste doran Good point!

Very poetic and great storytelling

Which put in the context of his own epileptic condition is a highly poetical commentary.

lyrics are sick

fizro yeah it’s weird. He didn’t really need to, but he chose to play using all bar chords where the finger positions were the same the whole time. It probably would have made more sense to like a more localized area for those chores but he just chose to slide up and down the neck lol. He plays in a weird way alright. Looks completely different to the rest of the band when they perform.

Someone's dancing upsets you? The comments on this page are NUTS.

yeh a back street front man in his cheap sweaty cloths laying down unique poetry in a way no one had or ever will a genious timeless and loved now even more than ever so uncool but inyet as cool as it gets omg i wonder what he would have achieved if he had lived longer eh

+Daniel Marquis greaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

+Daniel Marquis It sounds out of time. It didn't find a place except in Joy Division fans - and I do like some of their songs.

Thanks for letting us know

+Daniel Marquis Very true look at midnight oil the lead singer is a cunt his name is Peter G MEMBER OF KINGFORD SMITH.

They indeed were like 20 yrs ahead of their time mate

​@PeterHook11Yo hooky you are a legend bro, much to you and your family and keep up the great music, peace out!

В России всегда к юродивым особое отношение 😢было

You can download it mate

@@streetsoldier28 yeah, but their performance tho

@@sofiaspanou776 yeah u can download it + why would this get deleted lol

Why are you putting that into the universe then

It's been a yearly routine for me to watched Eraserhead for free. The date on it if I can recall was 8 years ago, then youtube just deleted it. I've been dreading that moment for over a year now. Get this video of music history for your own collection, you might not see this in the near future.

They were ahead of their time

@@leonardocarneiro9520 I see what you mean but there of there time they grew up in 1960s and 1970s in the north of England which was a pretty bleak place at the time with huge unemployment so that must reflect in there music but I think like all great bands they transcend time and make music you can relate to regardless of when it was made

Iggy Pop-The Idiot. Also some Bowie moments here and there.

one of those songs that stick with your ribs like a good bowl of chili

I don't think was struggling in that moment, it looks like release to me

It's JUST character acting guys

@@PMurray2694 Ridiculous

@@PMurray2694 i recommend u this song called miss me by the impures [][][

Exactly. Wouldn't he not be able to sing?

@@bigoshify I think people have suggested that his movements on stage are reminiscent to that of an epileptic fit, which is interesting because he started dancing that way on stage way before he was diagnosed with epilepsy. His dancing sometimes escalated into an onstage epileptic fit, in which case they would have to stop the show.

no matter what you call it, this is some of the best thing to happen to rock or modern music in my opinion. Joy Division is up there with the best of them