Casimir Effect - What causes this force?

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The Casimir effect is widely viewed as a force that originates from what is called vacuum energy. It is often invoked as decisive evidence that the zero point energy of the quantum field is real but there is an alternative way of examining the force which could be considered far more fundamental.
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00:00 Introduction
00:20 Initial Discovery
02:07 Vacuum Energy Explanation
04:13 van der Waals Explanation
04:55 Comparing the two approaches
06:49 van der Waals more detailed explanation

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@prietjepruck
@prietjepruck Жыл бұрын
If you are able to follow this explanation you already know the Casimir effect.
@LeNoLi.
@LeNoLi. 11 күн бұрын
i agree. i wanted to know more about it because it was so confusing, and now i'm just as confused. i guess this topic is not for amateurs.
@nikolaveljkovic428
@nikolaveljkovic428 11 күн бұрын
​@@LeNoLi.Neil Tyson explained it simply as allways.
@mortyrickerson6322
@mortyrickerson6322 Жыл бұрын
The level of detail you divulge to us is exquisite. Thank you so much for sharing
@Andrew-rc3vh
@Andrew-rc3vh 11 ай бұрын
I have news for you. The full explanation is probably a full postgrad course on QFT and it is all maths. The trouble is the model used to understand it has its own issues, such a renormalisation.
@curiousmind9287
@curiousmind9287 Жыл бұрын
You are a bonafide genius of popularization for extremely difficult subject matter. 😊
@jensanchez3646
@jensanchez3646 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! I'm SOO greatful for you! I've been trying to understand the Casimir Force, and you helped me learn so much in just a few minutes. ☺
@austincali510
@austincali510 Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel looking for info on Plasmoids. Amazing content! Now i get to binge watch for a while!
@SeethePattern
@SeethePattern Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@OrpheoTreshula
@OrpheoTreshula Жыл бұрын
Gold rush.
@JoeDeglman
@JoeDeglman Жыл бұрын
You should check out an Anthony Peratt video 'Peratt and Petroglyphs' as a starter video.
@MatthewHolevinski
@MatthewHolevinski Жыл бұрын
No don't listen to Joe, check out the precession video list first :)
@JoeDeglman
@JoeDeglman Жыл бұрын
Actually, the precession series follows the Jim Weninger idea that the Sun and other stars orbit around Arcturus and around our local Chimney, or a plasma model in the spiral arms of the galaxy. Stars orbiting around the local chimney or Arcturus, and the observations of star forming beehive clusters, is a place that would fit the idea of a Marklund convection that would match the Plasma Universe models to the procession model. If you assume that there are up to 9 standing waves nodes along each spiral arm and that the star forming beehive clusters orbit those nodes, as Jim Weninger claims for his precession or Artcurus model, then you can compare and contrast the two ideas. In My Opinion, Jim's idea and precession does fit right into the Plasma model presented by Peratt. Both are a good place to start.
@fkeyvan
@fkeyvan Жыл бұрын
Nice job. You covered many disparate theories of the Casimir effect which is not covered in popular media
@robbie8142
@robbie8142 Жыл бұрын
I didn't need to look at the comments to know how precisely popular your channel is, but of course I did. ....... Absolutely Outstanding!! 👻🚀
@mcasteel2112
@mcasteel2112 Жыл бұрын
Ive been sharing this channel everywhere I roam. I see a jump in subs!
@thenatureofnurture6336
@thenatureofnurture6336 Жыл бұрын
The "heuristic shortcut" is a great way to explain the majority of 'understandings'.
@barrydysert2974
@barrydysert2974 Жыл бұрын
Gareth, It is the graphics, so precisely timed to Your narration, that allows me to understand these heretofore impenetrable topics. i barely passed Algebra and Geometry with a D. i am convinced that was only out of the goodness of the teacher's heart! i have been with you for perhaps three years now and the EU folks five years longer. You and Your team are gifted educators! God bless You for showing me more and more of the pattern. You give me courage to face my remaining years !:-) 💜🙏⚡️
@SeethePattern
@SeethePattern Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@soheil527
@soheil527 Жыл бұрын
@WeekendTradesman AI algorithms created by the elite
@mr.tinkertrain8510
@mr.tinkertrain8510 Жыл бұрын
@@SeethePattern casimir effect is a fake, there's no demonstration proof on the internet at all
@deltr0n
@deltr0n 10 күн бұрын
Great explanation. Finally clicked for me. Thank you!
@pukulu
@pukulu Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent presentation without vague generalizations.
@trollmcclure1884
@trollmcclure1884 Жыл бұрын
Gotta binge watch everything on this channel once I have more time on hands. Sky Scholar became too difficult to digest
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 Жыл бұрын
Sky Scholar is pretty meaty!
@hanss1754
@hanss1754 Жыл бұрын
Sky Scholar is complete pseudoscience. Is this channel a melting pot of EU cranks?
@lawrenceleske3470
@lawrenceleske3470 Жыл бұрын
Cosmologists have shown that the "vacuum energy" must be a bit smaller than theory suggests: about 10^-120. This is a bit too close to zero to measure presently. Thanks for the clear presentation wrt van der Waals!
@googleyoutubechannel8554
@googleyoutubechannel8554 11 ай бұрын
I suspect the better we get at measuring 'vacuum energy' the more it will remain a bit smaller than theory suggests, unless theory finally suggests zero...
@JamesWebbKilledTheBigBangStars
@JamesWebbKilledTheBigBangStars Жыл бұрын
Wonderful as always. I may be thinking of resonating orbitals at subatomic scale; always stabilizing the potential energy between atoms, like objects falling from high unstable energy potential to lower stable state; i.e. gravity (or electrostatic effect) at extreme end of the scale. As two objects get further apart from each other (eg. in acceleration) the force which acts at the smallest scale is increased in magnitude (high energy potential), while as when they come closer the same acting force decreases, but never disappear unless the two objects become one.
@andrewferris8169
@andrewferris8169 Жыл бұрын
The Van der Waals picture is almost identical in that the force is still ultimately caused by virtual photons, but emanating from the charge exciting the vacuum, instead of the boundary conditions of the vacuum as a whole. It also includes the resonance of the charges around the molecules as you mentioned. In the papers you pointed out, it's mostly just arguing that the force comes from the Interaction Hamiltonian instead of the pure EM Hamiltonian. The boundary condition view is a way of thinking probabilistically and adjusting probabilities based on what interactions are even possible based on the situation. Because the situation can limit what's allowed. Van der Waals doesn't immediately capture this, but ultimately does predict it as well, so both pictures are 100% valid as of now. I wouldn't say Van der Waals is more detailed, but it does explain from the bottom up, rather than top down.
@justanotherguy469
@justanotherguy469 Жыл бұрын
The Van Der Waals force is fundamental because it does not depend on the phenomenological microscopic parameter, the dielectric constant. Simply brilliant.
@giles5966
@giles5966 Жыл бұрын
macroscopic
@justanotherguy469
@justanotherguy469 Жыл бұрын
@@giles5966 TY
@TheOoorrrr
@TheOoorrrr Жыл бұрын
Finally some quality condensed matter physics on KZfaq 🤩
@zzyzx2297
@zzyzx2297 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait to drop this one on my professor!
@ExistenceUniversity
@ExistenceUniversity Жыл бұрын
Report back on how hard he laughed at you!
@JoeDeglman
@JoeDeglman Жыл бұрын
According to Nikola Tesla, charged particles are condensers of the ether medium; and Charles P. Steinmetz, charged particles are condensers of a dielectric. Per plasma double-layer theory a double layer sets up between the two, at close range, keeping the two charges apart. CERN experiments show that when trying to get a so-called antiproton to merge into the spherical boundary of a positron requires an auto resonant frequency. An energy input at a specific frequency to get the charged particles to overcome that boundary or double-layer force that keeps them apart. Quantum computing experiments also show a magnetic bubble exists around all charged particles and atoms that can be controlled by electric forces, as a 'qubit.' It seems that when you try to model charged particles and coulomb forces at short range, without accounting for an ether medium condensation around such charged particles, a paradox always occurs. So even in a vacuum there is always an aether medium that will permeate said vacuum that must be accounted for at close range as force to be dealt with. According to a government document, 'Successes and Failures of the Constituent Quark Model,' charge doesn't migrate out of the nucleus per the quark model, with election decay, but charge manifests outside of the nucleus, per the Nikola Tesla model of an electron as a charged particle with a magnetic medium condensed around it. An interesting video to watch on this is What is a Mole? The relationship of Avogadro's number and particle charge by Jeff Yee ... At Energy Wave Theory.
@alwayscurious413
@alwayscurious413 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this - brilliant job!
@rudypieplenbosch6752
@rudypieplenbosch6752 Жыл бұрын
I worked in the same building, great to see it again.
@aryansingh7209
@aryansingh7209 Жыл бұрын
Bro you're new but the quality is comparable to youtubers that are here for a decade. Another gem of science KZfaq. Your gonna boom soon.
@noneofyourbusiness4133
@noneofyourbusiness4133 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Check his popular videos and scroll down about ten or twenty. Conpspiracy nutter. Do not trust a WORD he says.
@laneesarey6616
@laneesarey6616 Жыл бұрын
He has chat gpt right his scripts lol
@xenphoton5833
@xenphoton5833 Жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation 👍
@denzali
@denzali Жыл бұрын
Those name mentions across the top of the screen murder the experience I must say. But an amazing channel none the less 😊
@Corey_Brandt
@Corey_Brandt Жыл бұрын
I just want to say that you have the coolest KZfaq intro ever 😁
@moddel
@moddel Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation! In the Van Der Waals approach, what is the source for the energy of the polarization fluctuations? Is it zero-point energy? If so, then both approaches are based on the same energy source, but in one case they’re spread electromagnetic field fluctuations, and in the other case they’re localized.
@peterhodgson3696
@peterhodgson3696 Жыл бұрын
The polarization fluctuations are the source of energy for the attraction between the two plates. i.e. the two atoms in a polarized state are in a lower energy state than they would be otherwise because opposite charges are closer together on average.
@uplnejvypatlanec1692
@uplnejvypatlanec1692 10 ай бұрын
great explanation and clear English (important for us non-English speakers) ... I also feel a similar force when the walls of my stomach get too close together and it makes me hungry ;-)
@davidpalin1790
@davidpalin1790 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video Well done 👏
@omekafalconburn9202
@omekafalconburn9202 Жыл бұрын
Would this affect help corroborate Wal Thornhills Dipole gravity model perhaps?
@jamesbellegarde2893
@jamesbellegarde2893 Жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna say this Lightly. This is an important statement from anyone who in the 80s want to do is trying to be in BIGBANG cosmology to the modern shall we say electric universe cosmology. Thank you for continuing the legacy of Wal Thornhill! God bless you, Walt and everyone in the thunderbolts KZfaq channel as well as See the patterns.
@lexpox329
@lexpox329 Жыл бұрын
I understood very little of the 2nd half of the video because I am not versed in anything but basic Newtonian physics, but it sounds like a video I could digest and learn some new things by googling the definitions and piecing together what I am missing.
@claymore609
@claymore609 Жыл бұрын
Can the larger wave intergrate into the fields of the plates?
@critical-thought
@critical-thought Жыл бұрын
Dumb question (I know nothing about this subject), are the experiments performed in the dark?
@blorfkarpo
@blorfkarpo Жыл бұрын
Another explanation I read a long time ago is that virtual photons, being an electron moving forwards in time and a positron moving backwards in time are atracted to charges in the plates.
@googleyoutubechannel8554
@googleyoutubechannel8554 11 ай бұрын
Yes, you can suggest all sorts of hocus pocus when our best 'theories' don't constrain much of anything really...
@l0lzers1990
@l0lzers1990 4 ай бұрын
Great video!
@charleswalker7010
@charleswalker7010 Жыл бұрын
For some reason I kept thinking of gravitational interaction between two objects on a microscopic scale while watching this.
@markfernee3842
@markfernee3842 Жыл бұрын
A very nice presentation with good referencing. It seems then that the detectability of the quantum vacuum falls to squeezing. The LIGO and VIRGO gravitational wave observatories use a squeezed vacuum to increase the sensitivity of their instruments. This would seem a little less contraversial as there would be no effect in the classical picture.
@barrywilliams991
@barrywilliams991 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to conduct a similar experiment with superconducting plates.
@kingofnothing2260
@kingofnothing2260 Жыл бұрын
It still works even if in a vacuum shielded from electromagnet interference because of virtual particle momentum, which wasn't talked about unfortunately
@karljohnnyb5850
@karljohnnyb5850 Жыл бұрын
does this explain to some degree the drop in temperature at center of a searl device? is the vacuum energy simply transformation of heat to electric energy, simplified?
@RichardKCollins
@RichardKCollins Жыл бұрын
See the Pattern, To represent 3D fields, it is relatively easy to find many orthogonal representations. For atoms and molecules the groups often start from the Schrodinger equation, or the nonlinear Schrodinger equation. It is also possible to use 3D Fourier and wavelets. There are many choices. Those "plates" are the wrong shapes and likely the wrong properties for real nanoscopic, picoscopic and femtoscopic objects and regions. But there are mathematical and computational methods for any shapes now. The Coulomb force in 1/r^2, but the magnetic dipole force is 1/r^4. And the magnetic force is a vector. But it is well understood and documented. The corresponding potentials are 1/r and 1/r^3. At close distances, the forces between two particles having electric charge and magnetic moments usually required calculating the full multipole expansion. If you think of the 3D fields involved, then the time dependent field at ever point can often be represented in one of the many orthogonal basis sets. And often those are readily available on the Internet, and often packaged in to many of the tools. Python seems to have gained popularity, but there are many more. I hope you will look more deeply at tools and data people are using when they do "real" calculations. The energy density of the Earth's gravitational field is about equal to the energy density of a magnetic field of about 380 Tesla. In black body terms, that is roughly 1500 electron Volts per particle, so it has a peak in the soft x-ray region, extends through the XUV, but covers all frequencies. As you found the frequencies larger than the object are not so easy to use to represent the fields of those small things. But, you can use two large wavelengths (very close in frequency) where the difference fits into the right range. The "high harmonic generation" methods are what people use for laser and plasma excitation of energy densities in the XUV and soft x-ray region. And all of those are candidates for directly measuring and modifying fields, which I classify under "gravitational engineering" methods for the Internet as a whole. Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation
@curiousaboutscience
@curiousaboutscience Жыл бұрын
This was a fun video!
@russhall856
@russhall856 Жыл бұрын
🤔🤔👍👍 Thanks, I needed that 👍
@bazoo513
@bazoo513 11 ай бұрын
6:09 - "H" in "Hrvoje" is pronounced (as are all other letters - three syllables (yes, "r" plays a role of a vowel), six phonemes.) Not a very easy pronunciation for a native English speaker... Excellent video.
@dsm5d723
@dsm5d723 11 ай бұрын
This is the reason why Einstein and Relativity was more "viral" than ether-based explanations. The desire for a binary of the seen and the unseen is probably built into us by the nature of opposition in language. We say the absence of a measured quantity is itself a referent, like darkness is the opposite of light rather than an absence of light.
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 Жыл бұрын
Probably NOT *vacuum energy* but electromagnetic forces acting on the plates. Consider that in some materials, the Casmir effect is repulsive (From Wikipedia): "There are few instances wherein the Casimir effect can give rise to repulsive forces between uncharged objects. Evgeny Lifshitz showed (theoretically) that in certain circumstances (most commonly involving liquids), repulsive forces can arise." I suspect we have still have major mis-interpretations of this effect leading the wrong conclusions.
@ExistenceUniversity
@ExistenceUniversity Жыл бұрын
No charge
@MrofficialC
@MrofficialC Жыл бұрын
What happens if you put 3 casamir plates next to each other? like> ||| will the middle plate stay in the same spot or will it go to one side or the other? My guess is it will stay in the same spot if it's perfectly balanced but I could always be wrong
@andrewbodor4891
@andrewbodor4891 Жыл бұрын
There is a simpler explanation. The dense aether near the earth causes micro gravity pressing the plates together. The same dense aether around the earth creates the gravity that we experience on a grander scale. In both it is dense impermeable space or the aether at work. Matter pushes the aether aside; the aether presses back with "gravity". Matter, mass, can not occupy the same "space" at same time so the aether stretches like a girdle around the matter. This affect also causes what is incorrectly called "time dilation". Time is NOT dilated; the movement of the atoms constituent parts are slowed down. Refer to a cesium clock running slower. Time did not slow down, the clock did.
@imwelshjesus
@imwelshjesus 8 күн бұрын
In other it's the woo used by the baby jesus and his lying bottom feeding followers.
@assemblyofsilence
@assemblyofsilence Жыл бұрын
I’m trying to understand how zero point (assuming it exists) would NOT be a factor in the Casimir effect. If all space is permeated with energy of various wavelengths and boundary conditions filter some of this energy how could this not play a role in the observed behavior?
@pehliks
@pehliks Жыл бұрын
Because these virtual fluctuations do not exist in reality. You can never measure any virtual particle. It is just an artifact of theoretical calculations.
@johnyrocket223
@johnyrocket223 Жыл бұрын
thank you for explaining something a layman like me couldn't call out. When I first heard of the experiment for the casimir effect (only a month ago) the first thing I thought was "wait doesn't metal weld itself in a vacuum if you make the faces of two plates touch? why wouldn't you explain this casimir effect with the same logic(Van Der Walls force)? where does vacuum/negative energy come in?" don't get me wrong. I still believe that funky stuff will happen if you hold two "seas of electrons" close enough to interact but not touch. We may even find a new propulsion system out of such a configuration if it encourages an energy gradient. However I'm not holding out for a miracle.
@chaorrottai
@chaorrottai Жыл бұрын
It honestly would not surprise me it it was a canderwalls force origin because it's an attractive force, but it would deppend on how irregular the attractive force is. I would place the plates close together and look for fluctuation, the vacuum fluctions should create small oscillations in the force of attraction.
@andrewbodor4891
@andrewbodor4891 8 ай бұрын
What you are missing is that "gravity" works in all directions. Gravity is not an attraction between atoms of baryonic matter. Gravity is actually quantum space pushing matter together. Matter and matter naturally repel each other. Quantum space does not just give way; it contracts and compresses and exerts a force on the matter we call gravity. This compressed quantum space is all around us concentrating near the surface of the earth. This force does not only direct itself towards the center of mass but also sideways; thus the Casimir effect.
@andrewbodor4891
@andrewbodor4891 7 ай бұрын
Try looking at the force and the wavelengths as being caused by the bunched up or compressed quantum space around large masses. We call this gravity. Matter pushes quantum space aside and quantum space pushes back; they do not mix. The dense quantum space does not just push downward but also in ALL directions. The plates in the experiment initially repel each other but when close together the quantum pressures overcome the repulsion, pushing the plates together. You may call this having to do with wavelengths, but more likely having to do with the wavelengths of quantum space.
@scottchilds5726
@scottchilds5726 8 ай бұрын
I would love to see the table of elements 500 yrs from now. Perfect
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 Жыл бұрын
So , if two plates are separated by mere nanometers can produce an electric charge, could the tiny capillaries which allow for the passage of oxygen and nutrient molecules into living cells and their mitochondria also create an electrical charge?
@ExistenceUniversity
@ExistenceUniversity Жыл бұрын
No charge
@stephanboivin
@stephanboivin 9 ай бұрын
You should look at Milo Wolff articles that lead to Jeff Yee Energy Wave Theory. As neutrinos, electrons and nucleons generate spherical longitudinal waves. The interference between the two plates becomes significant when the plates are close and the point of minimum énergie is when the resulting amplitude is minimal creating a force that attracts the plates. In this theory the medium has Planks density, charge is the wave phase. So electromagnetic interactions are just interference interactions of the spherical waves generated by the charged particles.
@vanhetgoor
@vanhetgoor Жыл бұрын
The Philips Natuurkundig laboratorium was one of the greatest achievements of the N.V. Philips Gloeilampenfabriek. The work they have done in this lab was astonishing and it was way above and beyond what ordinary technical research is. it is gone. Don't know where the remainings are.
@pixelpatter01
@pixelpatter01 Жыл бұрын
At 7:29 you mention there is NO electric field inside a perfect (superconductor?). Has the Casimir Effect been detected between superconducting plates?
@LobsterHorde
@LobsterHorde Жыл бұрын
This of course shouldn’t be confused with the Kashmir effect, which is caused by Led Zeppelin.
@F.E.Terman
@F.E.Terman 11 ай бұрын
Love the accent. And as a bonus, it will automatically get all the Dutch names pronounced correctly! 😊
@curiousmind9287
@curiousmind9287 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tamayoshi682
@tamayoshi682 Жыл бұрын
If the spontaneous polarizations are indeed a superposition of both possible configurations (as represented in the end of the video), does it mean that the quantum superposition is synchronized between all atoms? This kinda has to be the case, otherwise one atom could be superposed in the opposite way and repel in the opposite way. It feels more intuitive to say that spontaneous polarizations are merely the result of an unstable state which inducts itself (once a small variation in the charges is observed, then the rest of the system will tend to align itself in one of either orientation. Maybe that's what was said in the video, or maybe I'm wrong?
@kingofnothing2260
@kingofnothing2260 Жыл бұрын
No mention of virtual particle momentum? Why not?
@NullStaticVoid
@NullStaticVoid Жыл бұрын
seems it would be easy to test this with an analogue. Put two plates in a tank very close to each other. fill the tank with a medium. Perhaps oil or water. Then excite the medium with a transducer using pink noise. If the effect is due to wavelengths "not fitting" between the plates, then they should move together due to the energy distribution of pink noise.
@briankleinschmidt3664
@briankleinschmidt3664 Жыл бұрын
The empty space between the valence shells is the void. It is the boundary between negative and positive. There is no room for it in space so it moves forward though time - pulling matter along with it.
@chrisbenson98
@chrisbenson98 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if conducting this experiment in space away from any magnetic interference would change the results?
@Matt33318
@Matt33318 Жыл бұрын
I doesn't even heard about Nikolic's paper, it could be important, maybe worth a read.👍
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 Жыл бұрын
So the vacuum energy explanation is analogous to modelling holes as actual positive particles vs the explanation that they're simply electron voids?
@MikeSmith-cl4ix
@MikeSmith-cl4ix Ай бұрын
So if I understand you correctly we're not sure which force causes the effect but we believe it's one of these two what other experiments have they done in this area have they tried slowly bringing a third plate to the stack see if it changes the pressure between the original two?
@GamesBond.007
@GamesBond.007 Жыл бұрын
The polarisation of the atoms is caused by the earths magnetic field...because when you move a conductor through a magnetic field a current is induced in the conductor which in turn generates a magnetic field which polarises the atoms of each side of the conductor, turning the plates into magnets (while they are moved). So because the direction of the polarisation will be the same for both plates, on the inside of the plates there will be different or opposing charges, which will create an attraction force between the plates...
@walter--
@walter-- 2 ай бұрын
how would the vanderwaals view be a solution here? Or at least there should be an explanation why there would be a consistent polarization over both plates that result in a next force.
@AshersAesera
@AshersAesera Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you be able to prove it's related to the Van der Waals forces by bringing an EM field nearby? If it is Van der Waals, half the time the attractive force would be temporarily reduced due the molecules having to realign with the EM field when you bring a like charged end to the plate with the like charged outer face. Where as, if it was vacuum energy it's just induce a stronger attractive force via inducing polarization. Another method I can think of is to have 3 plates. Vaccum energy would push the same plates in just as much, where as Van der Waals would fascilitate a lower attractive force due to the distance of the two plates being further apart.
@DSAK55
@DSAK55 Жыл бұрын
This seem like a major kick in the ass to the idea of vacuum energy
@00alexander1415
@00alexander1415 7 ай бұрын
I like your channels name, cheers.
@jari2018
@jari2018 Жыл бұрын
so its not gravity but atoms that are in a sheetform - conected mabey the shared bonds provide the force like they have lower * when 2 of these sheet comes close enought low + low makes an effect - or maybe not
@seabeepirate
@seabeepirate Жыл бұрын
It seems like the light theory for the Casimir effect is easily testable. The testing apparatus is simple enough, the measuring is the hard part.
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI Жыл бұрын
This doesn’t even make sense to me given the standard explanation. They say vacuum energy cannot be used to do anything, yet then claim this is the Casimir effect. Why can’t it just be electric induction? A neutral object can have an induced electrical charge Some even claim this is where ‘gravity’ actually is Also, Van der waals forces are merely electrical induction. An electric charge, or dipole, or n-pole, is induced. I don’t like the name van der waals force for something that should be fundamentally named We don’t call gravity ‘newton force’
@dan.j.boydzkreationz
@dan.j.boydzkreationz Жыл бұрын
Then it's the standard explanation that is clouding you. Remember cognitive dissonance is a strong deterrent to new hypothesis. Accepted quantum electrodynamics for example includes and ignores infinities.
@MrSamBowers
@MrSamBowers Жыл бұрын
How do they know that the force that brings the 2 plates together is NOT the result of atmospheric pressure? I'd like to see the results if and when this experiment is done in space.
@davestorm6718
@davestorm6718 Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why the plates are metal in these experiments? Would other materials exhibit this effect? Surely, they've done this with other materials, right? It would seem that, if the force were due solely via the van der Waals effect, then different materials would have differing forces (depending on the atomic separation in the lattice structure of the material). If the plates are metal and the wavelengths are in the RF range, wouldn't they impart the same momentum regardless of the distance of the plates?
@StephenGoodfellow
@StephenGoodfellow Жыл бұрын
The Casimir Effect challenges the most basic tenets of Galilean/Newtonian/Einstinian physics, in that these rest on the assumption that all objects fall at the same rate in a space vacuum. If what the Casimir Effect infers is correct, then the closing of plates must be an expression of pressure, anywhere in the Universe. it follows that there is nowhere you can roll two balls of different mass, where the larger mass does not arrive sooner than the lesser - providing you make the ramp distance long enough to see the effect. This holds true for the vacuum ball and feather experiment, provided the ball and feather are released a significant distance from a gravitational target. We will observe a measured difference in arrival time of the two objects, ball arriving before the feather.. Galilean/Newtonian/Einstinian physics work fine at 'short' distances, but the expected outcome breaks down over sufficiently longer distances. The argument that the effect is so small as to be insignificant would be an ill-conceived objection when one considers that the minute discrepancy observed in the precession of Mercury was a foundational observation in the verification of Einstein's paper on Relativity.
@jacobfreeman5444
@jacobfreeman5444 Жыл бұрын
A good question to ask is why they would think a value is too small to matter? What are they doing to limit outside interference that makes it possible to conclude something is negligible? Perhaps the answer to the paradoxes of our understanding is in our assumptions we make.
@arielperez797
@arielperez797 Жыл бұрын
Even though they are not charged so do not have electromagnetic forces present....could it be possible that a small amount of magnetism is present because of the atoms that build everything up? And once they start to move towards each other....this strengthens the magnetism due to a charged particle in motion becoming stronger? So as it moves closer...the magnetism ramps up? Lorentz force i believe it is called.
@ExistenceUniversity
@ExistenceUniversity Жыл бұрын
No, no charge
@radinelaj3932
@radinelaj3932 9 ай бұрын
It is like two magnets which pull each other. It there is a plate of metal or wood between two magnets they will pull each other ( in distance 1-3cm) the force of magnet penetrate the wood plate which is between two magnets.
@GamesBond.007
@GamesBond.007 Жыл бұрын
The plates could also attract because of their own gravitational field...right ? Because F=Gm1m2/R^2, so if they weight 1 Kg each, then when set at R= 0,000001 m, F=6,67*10^-11/10^-12=6,67*10=66,7 Nm
@drdca8263
@drdca8263 Жыл бұрын
The scaling with distance between them is different for this force than for gravitational force. I think proportional to 1/(distance^4) iirc.
@Velereonics
@Velereonics Жыл бұрын
5:24 the emphasis here murders me. One would expect it to me on "micro" as this contrasts "macro" but instead the emphasis is on "scopic" which they both contaon 😢
@schmetterling4477
@schmetterling4477 10 ай бұрын
We are... by erecting a potential barrier around free space. It's just one more effect of boundary conditions.
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591 Жыл бұрын
I always look to vacuum cleaners as the mechanical way to create attractive forces. You move air out of the way to move things into a vacuum cleaner. So you should move other things out of the way for other forces. Just move gravity out of the way, and scale down the Aether. If the Aether is the backdrop of space then its scale represents the smallest distance you can cross, and that would be your vector scale for a location. So as the Earth moves forwards the vectors move together, and you would have to cross more vectors at the front of the Earth's orbit than the back. This would naturally correct gravity, and stabilize the speed of light.. which is what Michelson/Morley saw. Then the smallest vector would work in the Casimir effect as the smallest distance you can cross being forced between the plates. Then you can also use that for Entanglement as the smallest distance you can cross stretched over a larger distance.
@DeathValleyDazed
@DeathValleyDazed Жыл бұрын
Your comments makes sense but I’m not smart enough to say why exactly. I remain puzzled and fascinated by the Aether. I’m stuck keeping my fingers crossed that Gareth Samuel is really onto something while “Seeing The Pattern.”
@ExistenceUniversity
@ExistenceUniversity Жыл бұрын
Vacuum cleaners =/= vacuums
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591 Жыл бұрын
@@ExistenceUniversity So? You should read what I wrote instead of making an irrelevant reply.
@ExistenceUniversity
@ExistenceUniversity Жыл бұрын
@@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591 I did, none of it makes any sense. You are just saying buzz words you heard before in random ways
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591 Жыл бұрын
@@ExistenceUniversity Such as? I mean you can't just say I used buzz words, as I don't see any buzz words in the text.
@mrhassell
@mrhassell 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if this has any bearing on Malcolm Bendall’s Thunderstorm Generator. It certainly sounds like it.
@123Shel12
@123Shel12 Жыл бұрын
This could be the reason that causes machinist’s gauge blocks (with nearly perfectly machined surfaces) to stick together when the contact surfaces are parallel and touching.
@subdynoman
@subdynoman Жыл бұрын
That's due to the near lack of air gap, a good experiment that I have not seen is placing these machines parts in a vacuum to verify this.
@sean_nel
@sean_nel Жыл бұрын
@@subdynoman Cody's Lab did one 6 years ago. It seems a vacuum makes no difference. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLR1qbaQx9CveaM.html
@TheAechBomb
@TheAechBomb Жыл бұрын
@@subdynoman I have, but I forget exactly who did it. I'd search for it on youtube if you want to find it
@ronmartin7253
@ronmartin7253 Жыл бұрын
reminds me of capacitance and resonance. is this just an overcomplicated replacement of the analog tech that ended up under the rug
@thebogsofmordor7356
@thebogsofmordor7356 Жыл бұрын
1:36 "Retardation due to the finite speed of light" is how I describe my childhood.
@GamesBond.007
@GamesBond.007 Жыл бұрын
2:20 There is no external field present, except for the EARTH's MAGNETIC FIELD. Which is what causes the polarisation in the atoms of the metal plates. Basically when you move a conductor through a magnetic field, a current is induced in the conductor, which in turn generates its own magnetic field, turning each conductor into a temporary magnet. So because the direction of the magnetic polarisation will be the same for both conductor plates, on the inside of the plates there will be different or opposing charges, which will create an attraction force between the plates.
@mikehannan8206
@mikehannan8206 Жыл бұрын
Dear Mr See The Pattern, I wish you would have a look at Ray Fleming's work & books, "The Zero Point Universe", amongst others. I am more convinced by his unifying theories than any mainstream explanations and think his theories deserve a broader airing in public. Please, please, pretty please, just have a look?
@timhensley1297
@timhensley1297 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it just the strong and weak forces, operating over a large area and short distance.
@mossig
@mossig Жыл бұрын
Nope, no vacuum energy. I'm curious to what happens at the openings between the two plates in both ends of the two plates at one nm? If there was vacuum energy pushing the two plates together and they where not fixated to a measuring device, there is no way they would join evenly at the same time. It would touch one end before the other because there can never be a even distribution of energy everywhere. The force between the plates should be bubble like at the end of the plate gaps. To take into consideration is also that the artificial vacuum chamber in it self if made of metal is and is a Faraday cage, that changes any electric or magnetic field present outside vs inside the test area.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN Жыл бұрын
Can't you put a insulator between the plates to stop electric effects?
@friendlyone2706
@friendlyone2706 Жыл бұрын
It would need to be VERY thin
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN Жыл бұрын
@@friendlyone2706 Did I just finally find a use for Graphine? 🤷
@Schtuperfly
@Schtuperfly 9 күн бұрын
So its not gravity but gravity is mass attracted to mass so there is gravity between the plates. How much stronger is the Casimir effect than the gravity? And what about magnetism existing in the plates. Could the friction of the vaccuum energy have slightly magnetized the plates? All the positive and negatives seem to line up in a very familiar way. Could gravity, magnetism and the casimer effect be somehow related. I love how we know little about gravity. It's such an opportunity.
@philoso377
@philoso377 11 ай бұрын
Vacuum-Aether is a substrate of the universe where gravity originates. Casimir force in vacuum came from g force within Aether.
@whaleoilbeefhooked6688
@whaleoilbeefhooked6688 Жыл бұрын
How does this look in light of SAM theory?
@whirledpeas3477
@whirledpeas3477 Жыл бұрын
What if the 2 plates are made of glass, not metal ????
@rustysawblade2591
@rustysawblade2591 Жыл бұрын
As a Manchester united fan, I can confirm that I have witnessed the Casemiro effect and it is indeed a powerful force! 😜 I think you would enjoy the "before the big bang" series on a channel called skydive Phil (I think that's the name). Lots of information about all the conflicting ideas of how we got here. I have been alternating between that channel and yours for the last few weeks for my existential crisis fix lol.
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