Joe lying is so damn cringey.

Seeing how Joe is with her, it makes sense that he also gaslit Cyn too. He makes them feel like they are crazy just for asking reasonable questions. I hope neither gets back with him.

that house was big af. joe could have had that “conversation” anywhere else. tahiry was right for trusting her instincts!!!

He is so manipulative. Watching her breakdown about it just shows that emotional abuse leaves SCARS.

Now imagine if Joe found a pair of size 12 Jordan’s by her bed that weren’t his. And she said “we were just talking” 🙄

"You're losing your mind" the gaslighting is so manipulative and toxic!🥴🥴

Joe deserve nobody but himself

THIS IS GASLIGHTING THIS IS A TOXIC MAN! Men believe that this is being cool and mature and its not not even a little bit. If we live together married or not that is OUR bed and no woman or men need to be up there unless its mom or dad or aunties and we are there too. If I am not present or you are not present nobody should be laying up in our bed, that is disrepectful, yall can be in the living room, backyard whatever but our room, NEVER

Tahiry is so beautiful i don’t know she managed to get even prettier from that old clip

Joe just never changes . He is such an arrogant narcissist. Anyone steer clear of people like Mr.Budden !

I was so disgusted with Joe Budden

He puts those headphones on like " back to our regularly scheduled program "... smh

He's so toxic, he didn't want her working because he knows what he does when he's "working" smfh the can never take what they dish out!🤮🤮🤮🤮

Wait a minute. This man was telling her if she takes the acting job that it will put more rocks on their already rocky relationship but yet he "talks" with a "friend" in her bed while she's at the audition. Then tells her she's CRAZY. If the shoe was on the other foot she would've been single right then and there. Men are a trip. Especially men like him.

I could really cry watching this. The way he doesn't want her to have an identity outside of their relationship, and the way he makes her seem likes she's tripping over something that's hugely disrespectful and probably was sexual had my heart pounding! Sometimes you have to go back and look at everything a person has experienced to see how they developed into who they are now, both emotionally and mentally. She didn't matter in this relationship and seemed to not really have a voice at all. That's why she's loud and boisterous now, so she will never not be heard or overlooked again. She just wants her feelings to matter. From seeing this she's also used to being lied to and manipulated, so that creates trust issues. She also has talked about physical abuse in a past relationship, so she's bucking up now. I now caught that she held this man down for years before he was back in a good place financially...and this is how he repays her? Begins belittling her on national tv! All of that has to be really damaging to your psyche.

He the worst type he told her she was loosing her mind listeeeennnn he is so creepy he is the creepy calm liar

She is absolutely right. I love the fact that she calmly explained the double standard between men and women. But also highlighted her growth and Double down further onto the role that gender plays in regards to the support and even emotional while being of men and women. Very well sad. I pray she gets every Happiness

“You’re losing your mind” = 💯% gas lighting ⛽️🔥

Cast reacts... ya mean Tahiry reacts😂🤦🏽‍♀️

Joe had that girls face all up in that pilliow. 😂😂😂😂🤦🏽‍♀️

Omg at the end when she explained the wish of not having fear of loving the right way.... I felt it in the depths of my soul. That hurt from being betrayed and made to feel like you caused it, it scars you so deep that the pain feels like it happened yesterday.

She a real detective she found the hair lol 😂

Atleast sis didn’t fall for his lies

She so eloquently explained what many woman feel

He shouldn’t have had her in the room though

😭😭 Joe is sick . They need to talk about this on the pod !!

Tahiry can’t get it right b/c she chooses very wrong consistently b/c I just watched Marriage Therapy on VH1 and she’s w/ Vado.....another D- list rapper who’s insecure 😒

He wasn’t good enough for you Tahiry! Now Cyn is stuck with this crazy man.

Wanting someone to be proud of you isnt insecure, its human nature to want those we consider important to support us.

I couldn’t be with somebody like Joe. Toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic

Damn he had no love for Tahiry to disrespect her in that way and then for him to have THE NERVE to propose marriage and expect her to say yes is beyond belief. #Ewwww 😝

Joe is abusive, I believe all the women who accused him, look how he dismissed her and then said she’s crazy, isnt that not abusive

I actually cried watching this. This is truly sad. I'm sorry you had to go through that Tahiry. The sad part is I really think he did love you but he just couldn't be what he needed to be to love you properly.

Love Tahiry! Joe did NOT deserve her in the least ass bit

I started tearing up with her. I was there in my last relationship.

Joe teaches a master class in narcissism, gaslighting and manipulation every week. Pay attention.

I hate Joe...my ex husband talked just like him, acted just like him. So calm and collected when confronted as if they are so innocent and incapable of cruelty. I feel Tahiry. It still hurts to this day. She's too beautiful for him.

Classic case of a narcissist. I felt her tears, abuse on a whole other level!

Tahiry expresses herself very well

Gaslighting at its best.

I think men like this are jealous of the woman and treats her badly attempting to devalue her and demolish her self esteem

joe til this day try to put this fake intelectual persona on other people arguments! so unnatural

I was and am still obsessed with these two. I swear Tahiry still loves him. She’s a beautiful girl who deserves someone who wants her like she wants them

Joe is so calm. Even while caught. Surprised he wasn’t 2 pieced but glad he wasn’t!

I have always, ALWAYS loved Tahiry! I hope she finds the Love she deserves ✨

“You’re losing your mind” its so sad how men will just calmly make you think you are genuinely crazy because you are making accusations that are in fact true.

“ I’m going through that right now, guys are so insecure “ no baby you keep choosing the same man in a different form and then try to change them.

these are the signs of a grown ass boy

When she said “not being loved the right way”. I felt that shit

BBOOOOYYY😂 So after this clip Cyn really thought Tahiry was trying to slide back into Joe's life😭😭😭😭 girl buy ain't no has time to play with Mr Toxicity 💀

She’s so much better off without that toxic masculinity!!! She’s gorgeous and she’s legendary in her own right, hope she finds a dope person to love her ❤️

Tahiry is such a real one. I love her. I hope she gets the happily ever after she deserves.

She is beautiful, for me the tone of JB would make me want to spit on him😂😂😂😂

The cast looking back at their reactions when they found out Joe was cheating on Tahiry 👇🏼 👇🏼 😳😳😳🙄🤭🤭

Aww baby girl. 😔 I'm so glad she rejected his marriage proposal. She loved herself first, and I respect that about her. She deserves a decent man. A high value man, because she is a high value woman.

The fact that he tried to flip it on her and tell her she was crazy when she was legit in her concerns. He should feel lucky that she ain’t hit him square in his jaw.

He's very manipulative and insecure

Men don’t understand that for every action there is a reaction. And he is so calm about it. 🤦🏽‍♀️ Sis, you had every right to tear that room up if you wanted to! You handled it well....

I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAD A CRUSH ON JOE BUDDEN BACK WITH HIM AND BUSTA RHYMES DID A SONG TOGETHER! EWW!

She still healing.. Bless her feelings.. And healing..😔😣☺

Just had a conversation about my girl who was a master lier. She used that same calm demeanor and would convince dudes the sky was yellow & they would go crazy.

Anyone that dated him after seeing his behavior is asking for it. Joe has always been like this.

I love how hes trying to be so calm 😂😭 "they were dirty" I can't.😭

Women, stop wasting your time with narcissistic men who lie. Just leave. Being alone isn't a bad thing, being with someone who is unable to grow up and respect you as a human being is.

I miss having these kind of interactions cause they were lowkey pretty funny.

Tahiry I could feel your pain. I hope you heal soon.

Joe is so insecure and I feel for Tahiry. How do you get in a relationship where you can go and do whatever it is you need to do to further your career... but your woman can't go and do the same for herself??? What???

Her outfit is on point

He's so annoying with that whispering tone

Aww Tahiry! I hope you keep shining and you're able to find someone that compliments you vs complicating who you are!💖

Tahiry deserves better

Joe is a narcissist, and is/was foul. What she said at the end was so eloquently stated, and I felt it...

Tahiry is an example of how powerful a person can be when they are reflective within them self and tap into their emotional intelligence, respond do not react in hard situations.

Damn I wanted to give her a hug at the end she kept so strong

Joe didn’t flinch at the pillow case 😂 but like why did he think that’s ok AT ALL

The problem Tahiry is you choose poorly.

Looking back on this, I see why she is the way she is with the whole Vado situation. She’s hurt & hurt people hurt people, especially when people play with your mind. Just gotta stay calm and heal.

I love these videos

Aww tahiry ❤️ i hate seeing how much pain and hurt we as women can go thru and vice versa.

Tahiry need to be in a movie ASAP!!!!!

Awwww I love her mentality, my heart goes out to her

Sis better then I am, I couldn’t go back & watch my stupidity on tape Chile. Took a mf back b4 after I found the cheap beauty supply edge control & weave hair in the car. The kind in diff colors & “scents” like....you entertaining a bih with white residue on her edges?!?!?!?

That clip is so relatable. I had a situation like this back in 2019. It’s so hurtful but when you look back it’s like you look at them with disgust

He a serial cheater for life

I adore Tahiry❤️She goes in hard but thats what got her caught up. Been there and done that.

So proud of your growth.... U deserve better.... The best.. Pls DO NOT SETTLE FOR LESS.. ❤️💕

Thanks for recapping and sharing your feelings. There are some women who can relate to toxic relationships and the fear of moving on especially with children. The values of men and women has changed, respect is no longer honored. How can we get that back?

She is messed up from that relationship and she is still not healed from it. I can tell she still love that man.

Tahiry is 100% right and it’s wild that joe bold face lied and it’s wild that if tahiry started tearing up the room… she would’ve been looked at way worse than joe

Can clearly see thru his calm tone that he’s really tryna think his way out of it! Manipulating ass, he truly doesn’t support her or want her but wants her to be the reason they break up when he obviously wants to; basically pushing her out

Family isn’t even allowed to look 👀 inside my master bedroom. My husband gets so mad of I leave the bedroom door open when I have company. Definitely friends not allowed on the room dude!! Middle school rules

Chile she needs to just focus on herself

its funny because he did the same thing to Cyn and look at her now she is singing and doing what she wants

Oh Tahiry.....your so beautiful and talented. I feel your pain and hope you find that person that can reignite that trust and love factor.

She went through so much but I think she handled herself well she’s grown beautiful she deserves a million times better

Only OLD episode replay worthy 🙌🏾

I love you Tahiry. You deserve so much more.

I love how real she is w her emotions

Great example of gaslighting!

He’s such a narcissist just like my x.calling her crazy after cheating on her.he makes me sick