Casual Casteism and Gender Insensitivity in Everyday Language.

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The Cārvāka Podcast

The Cārvāka Podcast

4 жыл бұрын

In the 7th Episode of Shastrartha, I discuss Casual Casteism and Gender Insensitivity in Everyday Language with Pratyasha Rath, Abhinav Prakash, and Abhijit Iyer. We try to understand the problems associated with language and its evolution. How we are used to uttering certain words as pejoratives which are casteist, sexist, and homophobic. How do we deal with such problems? Do we legislate language itself? Or do we appeal to the better angels of our nature and go for a gradual societal change.
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@AmeyaWaikar
@AmeyaWaikar 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard Abhijit atleast 10 times before today, never knew he is gay till today. I'm glad he doesn't play that card to put his point across.
@AjitJoshi686
@AjitJoshi686 3 жыл бұрын
But AIM does not agree to concepts like mood based gender.
@ronitrajput3934
@ronitrajput3934 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjitJoshi686 I think its right, because that how you get BI-sexuals. So if gender was supposed to be mood based than everybody is a bisexual.
@Halz0holic
@Halz0holic Жыл бұрын
Your gaydar is broken. If you are unaware of its existence, you might be gay.
@sadenb
@sadenb 4 жыл бұрын
Here only for Abhijit. The dude is awesome.
@mayankmittal9541
@mayankmittal9541 3 жыл бұрын
Came here for Abhijit & Abhinav but the way Pratyasha made her points in the first few minutes was just great👏👍
@AcemediaLdn
@AcemediaLdn 4 жыл бұрын
Best thing this country could do is put an end to caste. Many politicians wants Hindus to fight against each other and this is exactly what they want. If you notice; not a single politician want the caste to end even the Jai Bheem once because their vote bank survives on caste votes.
@millennialmind9507
@millennialmind9507 4 жыл бұрын
Reservation is equality of outcome not equality of opportunity
@nichoudha
@nichoudha 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson isn't credible when it comes to societal laws.
@shreyanswritingchannel7515
@shreyanswritingchannel7515 3 жыл бұрын
@@nichoudha It has been said over and over even before his videos got popular on net. Anyway, what makes you think reservation has weeded out caste discrimination? It hasn't
@gvbhnnnnnnhh
@gvbhnnnnnnhh 3 жыл бұрын
I feel Pratyasha could have framed her arguments in a much more coherent and articulate manner but she choose to hide the emptiness in her arguments by arming them with tough vocabulary and anecdotes. Ps i am not a sexist, i am a girl myself.
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
Well not that I'll contest your point, but I would rather wish to have an example from the video to prove your point and understand it better. Thank you.
@karmaisntreal
@karmaisntreal 3 жыл бұрын
Being a girl doesn't mean you're not a sexist
@rochakvaishnav8416
@rochakvaishnav8416 4 жыл бұрын
Most important thing for a society is ultimately character building of a person
@manavsalvi4165
@manavsalvi4165 4 жыл бұрын
i 100% agree with you
@kamaleshbandyopadhyay3848
@kamaleshbandyopadhyay3848 3 жыл бұрын
Irrespective of gender identity, religion
@SR-mv2mf
@SR-mv2mf 2 жыл бұрын
Then Pakistan is bound to fail
@mayurdead9210
@mayurdead9210 4 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening. Perfect people to discuss this issue, every one of them added value to the discussion with their own personal experiences.
@patmclaughlin107
@patmclaughlin107 4 жыл бұрын
Great discussion. Much respect to everyone on the panel and the host.
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhoo Mr Uncertainty
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 4 жыл бұрын
According to me reservation system need to be reviewed, 2nd and 3rd generation need to be removed from reservation cycle. And govt need to look into and change the reservation policy now. And it's high time to decrease the total reservation from 60-67% to max 40%, but give it to the real person who requires it. It just need political willingness.
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
No more four is in fact a movement. No doubt.
@homosapien5140
@homosapien5140 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is Person who benifitted by Reservation becoming richer & richer by the generation. Become vocal & come in higher status, they don't feel any oppression being respected for his status. A person who is not benifitted by it, still remain in the poor status, they are the persons, they also become victims of oppression.
@debuch73
@debuch73 3 жыл бұрын
Pratyasha sister there are easier ways of basically saying, there are some abusive words and then there are some really abusive words and if abuses can't be stopped then the leftist authoritarian solution is to shut up people, and that this process of mishandling abuses is same among the non-leftists. See I said the same in 5seconds for which you took 20minutes.
@dipankarmohanty
@dipankarmohanty 4 жыл бұрын
What pratyasha was talking about female slurs affecting the fairer sex is correct when there is a derogatory projection by people. But, in case of her opinion on the law she has internalized the same feminism movement since the 60s as outlined by rollo tomasi. The security that a law provides to females like to have in society e.g. dowry laws. But to what extent should the state get involved needs to be thought out. The problem of female slurs exists in every country. How far can the state interfere in daily free speech?
@punyashloka4946
@punyashloka4946 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but if you are going to kill us for dowry then we need legal help and what about verbal abuse problem is not slurs but when it is use to abuse people same problem with caste slurs .
@rakeshbarman3486
@rakeshbarman3486 Жыл бұрын
​@@punyashloka4946 dowry is already criminalized ,inforcememt needs to be improved though ,
@aashryasharma3586
@aashryasharma3586 4 жыл бұрын
Abhinav was spot on💐👌👌👌
@swapnilghosh
@swapnilghosh 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! For want of a better word, Abhijit just "destroyed" Pratyasha's arguments in the first 5 minutes of his speech!!
@ramooh1959
@ramooh1959 4 жыл бұрын
I am one of those who has lived among Arabs for more than 2 decades. I havent seen in them the kind of culture that Abhijit speaks about. Like Abhinav tried to intervene and point out, Abhijit is talking of an era earlier than Islamic one. Post Islamic era, Arabs are not even a trace of their ancestors. In any case I doubt if Arabs prior to Islamic era did anything of their own or they were transit points for Indian goods and knowledge above all.
@gvbhnnnnnnhh
@gvbhnnnnnnhh 3 жыл бұрын
Sir what was your experience like?
@RaviSankarRao1
@RaviSankarRao1 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome discussion. Always a fan of Abhijit and the way he puts his points. Had never heard Abhinav before. His articulations are great as well. No offense, but some of Pratyasha's english and some of her points went way above my head. On a lighter note.....I think the panel missed "A Baby/Child", we also have this famous "Don't be like a baby", "Stop crying like a baby" etc
@kiky1998
@kiky1998 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... Pratyasha s point went way above
@swapnilghosh
@swapnilghosh 3 жыл бұрын
They weren't "above" as such...it is a typical trick of using jargon or quoting a lot of people to make a point, when one can't really stitch their argument together or if somebody has absorbed a lot of trope without really giving it any original thought.
@aashryasharma3586
@aashryasharma3586 4 жыл бұрын
Great , so thoughtful 👌💐
@parmeetbaweja5231
@parmeetbaweja5231 3 жыл бұрын
Abhijit you are bang on. Speech policing is such nonsense....people should be taught to have a thick skin. Focus on real issues. Words are just words.
@kingNoynothing
@kingNoynothing 4 жыл бұрын
Why can't our News Channels have this type of debates?
@amey_gad
@amey_gad 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Rajya Sabha TV's Big picture
@kingNoynothing
@kingNoynothing 3 жыл бұрын
@@amey_gad I have no money to buy tv
@kingNoynothing
@kingNoynothing 3 жыл бұрын
@Yash Gaur No money to buy internet pack
@supersaiyanbluegokusan4418
@supersaiyanbluegokusan4418 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingNoynothing well then be lone monk and go meditate somewhere
@kingNoynothing
@kingNoynothing 3 жыл бұрын
@@supersaiyanbluegokusan4418 No. I ll rather watch porn
@sudhirbector
@sudhirbector 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. A. Iyer Mitra, Prabhu the Mesopotamian Sumerians and Akkadians weren't Arab. These guys were inhabiting the region between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers much much much earlier. Your timeline is only off by only about 4 to 5 thousand years. Not a big deal.
@gvbhnnnnnnhh
@gvbhnnnnnnhh 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 😅😂 i love how people like Abhijit thinks they are aware about everything.
@lawrencep8095
@lawrencep8095 Жыл бұрын
Good discussion, received thoughtful knowledge from each participant. Keep it up.
@shivanshtyagi3254
@shivanshtyagi3254 3 жыл бұрын
Abhijeet - It's economy stupid Pratyusha - Contextualisation is important to understand meaning Abhinav - Negotiation cannot be fruitful unless the two social groups are at similar hierarchical standing. My stand - Economic emancipation would bring one caste group at a similar stand as the higher social group where the negotiations for sensitivity can truly fructify Once that's done perhaps the groups in question are in better position to empathise and contextualise other side's stand. I know it's not perfect but it's my initial observation on first hearing. Btw brilliant speakers and content as always.
@vivekt4896
@vivekt4896 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed about not calling castiest names of so called lower castes But the upper casts are also terms derogatory in different parts of India.
@arjunfromamerica1677
@arjunfromamerica1677 3 жыл бұрын
Halfway through when Abhijit is talking about Paul and Peter in relation to Judaism- it was Paul that advocated for eating pork, not obeying Kosher laws, etc. Peter wanted to continue the Jewish practices and compel Gentile converts to take them up as well.
@shashikalashetty5360
@shashikalashetty5360 4 жыл бұрын
Abhijeet is very clear with his philosophy
@soumen_pradhan
@soumen_pradhan 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone should be.
@akhileshshastri1278
@akhileshshastri1278 3 жыл бұрын
Abhijit killing it with FACTS
@ramooh1959
@ramooh1959 4 жыл бұрын
I passed out from college in Bangalore in 1980. You can work back to my schooling from there. I can assure you that I didnt fail my earlier years or in college. Never in my younger days did I know what caste was nor who a Muslim or Christian was. I am supposedly born into a high caste but never flaunted it nor felt discriminated nor did I discriminate anybody on that count
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 4 жыл бұрын
Sir this is the typical bais of the upper caste people in India. If you or your school/ city didn't have or exposed to caste discrimination it didn't mean it don't exist. Why don't any dalit tell the same thing , even from your school.
@gvbhnnnnnnhh
@gvbhnnnnnnhh 3 жыл бұрын
@@RohitRaj-rd7tl a dalit boy who works for my father says this same thing. He said that he has never been discriminated against by his brahmin or baniya friends, he told my dad that he got into a fight with him the Muslims in his area will come and support him but if he hot into a fight with one of them they won't support him so castism is also being kept alive by them because it helps them convert people and yes castism does exist in some parts and some people do discriminate but don't think that things aren't changing.
@homosapien5140
@homosapien5140 3 жыл бұрын
@@gvbhnnnnnnhh I joined a PG in Bangalore, my roomate he is 2 years older than me, he his typically from North Karnataka ruler area, but he belongs to higher caste. He is much a rude person that he never talks to me & didn't share his things, he quarrelled with me just for using his bucket during bath. But I had Very good persons around me, they also from upper caste, but they are from south Karnataka city area. They are also from higher caste. Later I came to know that my roomate his rude to me because he thought I am from lower backward caste person.
@kirank5253
@kirank5253 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alpeshmittal3779
@alpeshmittal3779 3 жыл бұрын
All the words Abhijit used for him and said he is fine with Are : things he chose to do or enjoy doing so. Not the case when it comes to other kind of insults.. Will he be fine if it's associated with ma bahen ki gali? Also devdasi were not brahmins but mostly from lower castes. Not sure where does he get his social education?
@shalinikawatra8700
@shalinikawatra8700 3 жыл бұрын
it is the gross false cerificate misuse type of quotas (esp. on sports. defense which should be linked to EWS, etc) leading to inauthentic benefits to the totally undeserving which irks me....if genuine non corrupt allocation happens i am fine
@jigggro
@jigggro 3 жыл бұрын
AIM jai ho.
@Mkayou
@Mkayou 2 жыл бұрын
This video is actually very intense
@swapnilghosh
@swapnilghosh 3 жыл бұрын
What is an "everyday regular swear word"? @kushal
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
Sala
@kamaleshbandyopadhyay3848
@kamaleshbandyopadhyay3848 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the discussion only for Abhijit ji.
@royandrews4980
@royandrews4980 Жыл бұрын
I am 78 and at any age one can learn and I just learnt something I grew up on a coffee estate in Chickmangalur Dist and as a lad went to a boarding School in the Nilgiris. A Tamilan person told be Papan was the Tamil word for Brahmin, I did not know till now it was a slur Paul was the one who wanted to change the food laws Peter opposed it (Nothing unclean has touched my lips).Yes Pontius Pilate was a brutal man and the hand washing episode was used to throw the blame on the Jews for killing Jesus and make the Romans look good.. I'm a Christian but not a Fundamentalist. I left India on Feb6/1982 I live in Hot Springs Ar. USA. I wrote this several months ago since then I've also learn't that the Malayalam word for Brahmin "Pattan " also a slur. So would you kindly mention all the the caste slurs so one does not use them innocently ?. In Southern Kerala the word "Pattan" is a slur for Brahmin.
@vve2059
@vve2059 4 жыл бұрын
Why is live chat disabled in final video
@debuch73
@debuch73 3 жыл бұрын
The moot point that begs the question is what is the relationship between "violent words" and real violence.
@SandeepMadhavanK
@SandeepMadhavanK 3 жыл бұрын
And why do I not understand a word of what you say... speaking about languages
@ramabapat
@ramabapat 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree that a crunch of resources is the source of plenty of problems including barbarism.
@mukulpal8875
@mukulpal8875 Жыл бұрын
Bhagavad Gita: Chapter 4, Verse 13 चातुर्वर्ण्यं मया सृष्टं गुणकर्मविभागश: | तस्य कर्तारमपि मां विद्ध्यकर्तारमव्ययम् || 13|| chātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛiṣhṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśhaḥ tasya kartāram api māṁ viddhyakartāram avyayam chātuḥ-varṇyam-the four categories of occupations; mayā-by me; sṛiṣhṭam-were created; guṇa-of quality; karma-and activities; vibhāgaśhaḥ-according to divisions; tasya-of that; kartāram-the creator; api-although; mām-me; viddhi-know; akartāram-non-doer; avyayam-unchangeable Translation BG 4.13: The four categories of occupations were created by Me according to people’s qualities and activities. Although I am the Creator of this system, know Me to be the Non-doer and Eternal.
@Samurai016
@Samurai016 3 жыл бұрын
I think too much vocabulary n bookish things bored the public n navigate other way from the actual topic in other words it would generate more heat than light so keep it lil simple n articulate we don't need to learn what particular person said in the past we need to know one's openion about subject that is it so keep it simple Pratyasha cause your language is very bookish I must say. I agree with Abhijit at some extent.
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 4 жыл бұрын
giving reservation to poor upper caste is good. But the percentage must not be more than 3-4%, not at all 10%. 2) the cutoff for post graduate medical doctor this year for EWS is below SC, I have given the exam that's why I know it. This yr Jharkhand public service commission, cutoff for EWS, is nearly close to sc cutoff, faar below obc cutoff. It's because BJP have given far more reservation to upper caste than what's needed. (Facts. According to census 1932, on which all reservation policies are based, Obc population is 60-65%- reservation given 27% General category population - 10-12% , reservation given -10%( 3 times the obc.) Due to which the low cuttoff. So according to govt upper caste poor require 3 times more reservation than obc poor. That's not equality, that's appeasement. And one more thing, when you become SJW for upper caste poor, who should get reservation, then what happens to you ,when on exactly same criteria OBC were given reservation?? Then all the media in this country was crying that merit in India is dying. And every deserved candidate leaves India . That's sheer hypocrisy dear. I m all for reservation for upper caste poor too, but govt need to see the reservation policy, and this is not a lost battle, upper caste got their reservation by choosing bjp na, so next govt will listen to other side too. I m hopeful , no the less, in the meantime, we are here to let everyone know the hypocrisy of this system.
@johnlove2954
@johnlove2954 3 жыл бұрын
No, the upper castes need to get their reservation too. And much more than 10%.
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnlove2954 waah bc, jiska population 10% hai, usko 10% reservation, aur obc jiska population 65% hai usko 27% reservation. Jabki upper caste ke naam me hi upper hai. Hadd hai bancho, jo sabse ameer hai , affluent hai usko hi sabse zayada reservation de diya, chutiya bjp.
@johnlove2954
@johnlove2954 3 жыл бұрын
@@RohitRaj-rd7tl Chutiye, 10%, 27% se kam hota hai.
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnlove2954 bhai tera iq sach me kaam hai, ab tere jaise chutiye bhi upper caste reservation ke karan naukari pa lenge to ye desh kaise chalega, fir to sare deserved ko india chodna padega na .. jaise upper caste reservation aane se pehle , reservation bahut buri cheez thi aur jab upper caste reservation mil gaya to aur mangne lage bhikhari ki tarah?
@johnlove2954
@johnlove2954 3 жыл бұрын
@@RohitRaj-rd7tl Bhai. Reservation upper caste ka haqq hai. Teri g@@n jalne se up unse unka haqq nahi cheenege
@alaypatel6050
@alaypatel6050 3 жыл бұрын
Abhijit is a man thats more man than most men.
@jayakrishnanm7838
@jayakrishnanm7838 4 жыл бұрын
Namaste
@richiknair9036
@richiknair9036 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the person talking about caste even acting like some social Security system was talking about how in lower castes in bad economic conditions, if you leave your caste, you're ostracized and not allowed back and then if you ever need help you will not be able to rely on any support because you're out of the caste. This is very much a phenomenon. Like abhijit said, India has to focus on making the pie bigger and setting up environments for everyone to prosper. Right now, business environment is terrible in India as usual. Once economy is much better, then caste will naturally settle and change. Of course, when I talk about economy becoming much better, that happens because of better and more widespread education. We should not try to establish a social security system(like the one in USA) to replace caste right now. That will not work until we get to the economic level of USA and the proper enforcement of the laws of India
@rrrrrr12rr
@rrrrrr12rr 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome discussion..i think comparison of jews and dalit is not a valid one.. jews were well off and were involved in variety of the other jobs as well.. dalit were primarily involved in menial jobs..
@harshdeepsharma6110
@harshdeepsharma6110 4 жыл бұрын
People like to talk about the things they know and others don't to feel superior and intellectual. Maybe they are trying to give an example to explain the situation but i agree with your point that it's not the perfect analogy
@bhaveshdk
@bhaveshdk 3 жыл бұрын
Om
@rakeshbarman3486
@rakeshbarman3486 Жыл бұрын
well majority people don't the real meaning behind such words ,it has come into our vocabulary in Suttle way of gaali
@yaemiko1256
@yaemiko1256 2 жыл бұрын
So a rule of the thumb is that if you as a brahmin are offended by the term "brahminical patriarchy" then you know how it feels to a lower caste person when another person uses the words chamar or a bhangi as insults. Same can be applied to sexist and homophobic language and behaviours.
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 4 жыл бұрын
Now 67% of specialist doctors are from reservations . Earlier it used to be 50%, but now amazingly no merit is dying in India and no meritorious student is flying to America.
@riteshroy1
@riteshroy1 4 жыл бұрын
Just check passing score of newly added reservation class and compare it with previous category and you will get ur answer? It's a previlege that reservation class enjoy, enjoy it but don't come in common platform justifying it. Someone is sacrificing his merit for it so if you can't be grateful then at least have little shame and stay shut.
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 4 жыл бұрын
@@riteshroy1 you are dumb or what??? I m not justifying reservation, I m exposing the hypocrisy of Indian media and some upper caste people who were crying for last 28 yrs that reservation is killing merit. but now when the whole reservation has been increased to 60-70%in some cases, there is an amazing silence all over. No TV debates and protest from upper caste people. Such a hypocrite they are. PS. I m also a general category student, from obc. PSS. EWS cutoff has been near to sc cutoff or even less than sc cutoff in some cases. Means poor of upper caste are even below Dalits in India?? Ponder over it, don't be so impatient to answer immediately. I m also against reservation, it need to be limited to max 40% total not more than that, in any case. But govt of India had just done a blunder .
@riteshroy1
@riteshroy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@RohitRaj-rd7tl first of all, if you had this in mind then you should have not written against increased quota Only, shud have been more specific about reservation as a whole. Secondly, the argument everyone had was that even upper caste has poor people Nd gov addressed that, reservation will not go in current political dynamics. Any political party who touches it will commit a political suicide. Gov resources will always have political agenda and socialist benefits. You keep fighting for a lost cause if you want but it's not gonna change.
@riteshroy1
@riteshroy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@RohitRaj-rd7tl one more thing, don't give this bullshit about there is no difference in % I have been following this and I know the cut off % of upper caste reserved lands much higher than other reserved class bcoz the upper caste of the cities no matter economic condition always educate their child. The criteria set for eligibility covers lower middle class and they always educate their children. You must have heard of rikshaw drivers and house maids or other labor class educating their children. Don't dare take that away from them.
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 4 жыл бұрын
@@riteshroy1 that's the problem with your type of upper caste SJW , You read half the thing, understand even half of that, 1)Firstly, giving reservation to poor upper caste is good. But the percentage must not be more than 3-4%, not at all 10%. 2) the cutoff for post graduate medical doctor this year for EWS is below SC, I have given the exam that's why I know it. This yr Jharkhand public service commission, cutoff for EWS, is nearly close to sc cutoff, faar below obc cutoff. It's because BJP have given far more reservation to upper caste than what's needed. (Facts. According to census 1932, on which all reservation policies are based, Obc population is 60-65%- reservation given 27% General category population - 10-12% , reservation given -10%( 3 times the obc.) Due to which the low cuttoff. So according to govt upper caste poor require 3 times more reservation than obc poor. That's not equality, that's appeasement. And one more thing, when you become SJW for upper caste poor, who should get reservation, then what happens to you ,when on exactly same criteria OBC were given reservation?? Then all the media in this country was crying that merit in India is dying. And every deserved candidate leaves India . That's sheer hypocrisy dear. I m all for reservation for upper caste poor too, but govt need to see the reservation policy, and this is not a lost battle, upper caste got their reservation by choosing bjp na, so next govt will listen to other side too. I m hopeful , no the less, in the meantime, we are here to let everyone know the hypocrisy of this system.
@kiky1998
@kiky1998 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it is more of a class issue.... guys with money and common interests tend to stick to each other.. No way it should be used to hurt anybody.
@RAIRADIO
@RAIRADIO 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. There is severe mistreatment issue in villages and small towns. A poor brahmin family would not marry a better off lower caste family.
@RAIRADIO
@RAIRADIO 3 жыл бұрын
Its a race, religion, caste everything.
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
@@RAIRADIO how is choice of limiting marriage prospectus within a similar group of people discrimination? In most of the societies, there's a tendency to mingle with similar groups. And no, I'm not denying the mistreatment. Not at all. But I disagree with the example.
@YashKansalx
@YashKansalx 4 жыл бұрын
THUGH is an indian jai
@shreyanswritingchannel7515
@shreyanswritingchannel7515 3 жыл бұрын
30:23
@bhabanism
@bhabanism Жыл бұрын
Urbanize, fixes everything.
@AjitJoshi686
@AjitJoshi686 3 жыл бұрын
In IT world, we have black hat white hat, master slave (nowadays we call it worker) etc.
@nitinbhasin8898
@nitinbhasin8898 4 жыл бұрын
Individuals, communities ans society have a big role in doing vichar manthan on such issues. That's the only way such issues can be understood and resolved. Legislation has very limited rule to provide some protection and set examples but it's is ineffictive to make societal changes. Indian pluralistic society and culture is endowed to take up such challenges but the economic development and increase of resources is a must for having enough to go around and overcome basic challenges. It will take time to dig out of the hole, and it's good to see some digging happening here.
@shailja4713
@shailja4713 3 жыл бұрын
Context of upper caste joke is also same.. Abuse... May be not in history but in current scenario Brahmin jokes are serious....
@sca8217
@sca8217 3 жыл бұрын
Abhijit throws out slurs and cuss words like sukka puri after a round of golgappas.
@RD-pp9ds
@RD-pp9ds 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing discussion but just one point of disagreement here...you should talk about caste and gender separately bcz caste is a social construct while gender is not! I am not saying that there's no gender discrimination but i think there will always be gender based slur words because men and women are made different physically and mentally as well! For ex the word "dick" is also used as an insult and men themselves use the word. Same for the word "bitch", i have seen women using the word for their friends and making a joke about it. You will never see a person from "chamar" community using "chamar" as a slur word for someone else!
@playerjack2566
@playerjack2566 Жыл бұрын
You misunderstood the point that it was about language which use discrimination towards those point
@ankurnaithani9139
@ankurnaithani9139 4 жыл бұрын
People talking about anhilating caste. I am not for it today, i am all in for anhilating caste based discrimination. i was for anhilating caste 6 months ago or an year ago. Because i belong to a lineage of pandits all my ancestors till my father were pandits, it was because of the economic downfall we have to move out of our ancestral village to get higher education and jobs. But today, i know nothing about the scriptures, i will soon start reading all of it. But if you say i shed my identity of being a brahmin it is not acceptable. Because it is who we are.
@RAIRADIO
@RAIRADIO 3 жыл бұрын
Its is not who you are. Its all in your head. Anyone can take up scriptures and study (although its very hard). No family lineage is required for it. You could also take up a broom and clean your neighborhood instead. No lineage needed either. We are all Brahmins Kshatriya Vaishya Sudra depending on the time of the day. Its useless dividing society up over it.
@millennialmind9507
@millennialmind9507 4 жыл бұрын
Solution to Reservation: India’s problem isn’t reservation its the capacity of educational institutes. All education must be made online. If institutes like Stanford can have masters Degree online then why cant the IITs do the same. Engineering streams like Computer Science and I.T. Can go fully online. For other branches, divide the problem in 2 parts. 1. Theoretical 2. Practical Theoretical part can be done online. This will reduce cost of land and labour for the goverment. Involve private companies to built practical branches and they can earn a portion of financial aid from the government. Any how virtual reality labs are also coming. Many of the big universities in west are having online education.
@RohitRaj-rd7tl
@RohitRaj-rd7tl 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry sir, it's won't solve the problem, in some cases it may also increase it.
@RAIRADIO
@RAIRADIO 3 жыл бұрын
That wont solve the problem. We need more solid primary education with basic english. More polytechnics. Basically we need a social conciousness syllabus and skill development syllabus. We are expecting the whole dalit samaj to crack mbbs and ias. Aise thodi na hota hai. Where are the stepping stones for the non academic population? Where is the chance of intermixing?
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with this one. If we increase the opportunities, kafi Sara RR khatm ho jaayega, but that has to be throughout the system from basic education.
@chobblegobbler6671
@chobblegobbler6671 9 ай бұрын
Fck.. What a long opening monologue.. Pratyaksha.. True woman 😂.. Plz take my "tonality" into account
@subus7263
@subus7263 3 жыл бұрын
people are like that. They are nasty. this has been this way after all the liberal movement. Think of that!
@AjitJoshi686
@AjitJoshi686 3 жыл бұрын
Abhinav is having expensive T shirt.
@indrajeetjfadatare
@indrajeetjfadatare Жыл бұрын
bolo hi mat bro everything is offensive and hurtful
@taraprasaddash8643
@taraprasaddash8643 4 жыл бұрын
Don't call this time pass lady
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, anyone who supports reservation can't have my respect. You are just perpetuating the caste system, not addressing it.
@abhinavbaad3075
@abhinavbaad3075 3 жыл бұрын
My mother school don't appoint non Brahmins as principal (Head of school). This is cast oppression . So reservation is necessary . If you want to end reservation first end descrimination
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602 3 жыл бұрын
Abhinav Baad yes, that is caste oppression, and so is reservation. The difference between this oppression and reservation is reservation is state-sanctioned oppression.
@adarshpandey8657
@adarshpandey8657 2 жыл бұрын
Kya tha bhai ye
@nitin1240
@nitin1240 2 жыл бұрын
The Title says "SHASTRARTH". Really? 😆😂🤣🤣 Do you people have an slightest iota of what Shastrarth means? THE PROBLEM IS NOT PEOPLE BEING UNEDUCATED: THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY ARE EDUCATED JUST ENOUGH TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TAUGHT. AND NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO QUESTION WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TAUGHT.
@AS-vr5lc
@AS-vr5lc 2 жыл бұрын
raitas, what do you expect from them
@SandeepMadhavanK
@SandeepMadhavanK 3 жыл бұрын
Sushhh
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602 4 жыл бұрын
Never seen a more pretend-non-left wing woke than Abhinav Prakash....
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
Which school education board were you a part of?
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavshukla2202 sorry, what?
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
@@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602 I'm asking in a very simple manner, which school education board, did you get your education from?
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602
@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavshukla2202 moved around, so have studied in cbse, icse and state boards. But what has that got to do with anything discussed here?
@abhinavshukla2202
@abhinavshukla2202 3 жыл бұрын
@@sudiptasoumyadarshan5602 have you ever dealt with people studying in state boards from the beginning till the end of their school education?
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