Catalonian Independence: Why Are Millions Fighting to Separate from Spain?

Catalonian Independence: Why Are Millions Fighting to Separate from Spain? - TLDR News

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At the start of last week, the results from Catalonia's regional elections began to emerge. For the first time parties supporting the region's independence won out, giving more credence to the independence movement. So in this video, we explain what some in Catalonia want to break free from Spain and whether that's likely to ever happen.
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@OHYS 3 жыл бұрын

I'm mildly annoyed that they labelled the map in the thumbnail with "Spain" and "not Spain", instead of Spain and Spain't

@harrymanocha4533 3 жыл бұрын

España and Espa-no

@JPL454 3 жыл бұрын

which will soon became Spain and not Spain

@oslo6661 3 жыл бұрын

AH, sunny Spain. Or 'North Gibraltar' as I like to refer to it.

@faustcardiel1272 3 жыл бұрын

True, Better "Spain" and "Cataloia"

@joselugo4536 3 жыл бұрын

So oslo, Portugal is west Gibraltar?🎗

@smivan. 3 жыл бұрын

While a series on disputed regions would certainly be interesting, you're inevitably gonna make people pretty angry with it, lol.

@somerandomhomeboy 3 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid you're right on this, almost all borders worldwide have been disputed,but I don't fault TLDR for trying to grow their audience!

@Armadeus 3 жыл бұрын

thats the point of a dispute

@innocento.1552 3 жыл бұрын

@Shaun Donald Trump is proof of it

@weonanegesiscipelibba2973 3 жыл бұрын

@@innocento.1552 "Yumpf bad orange man Drumpf is definitely equatable to Catalonia's situation!"

@edwardoleyba3075 3 жыл бұрын

Grrrgh😉

@Mpapachristodoulou 3 жыл бұрын

We want the disputed territories series!

@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc 3 жыл бұрын

On the one hand yes, but on the other I can see the potential chance that them staying neutral means favouring one side by not being honest on who is in the wrong.

@KelticStingray 3 жыл бұрын

@@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc news isn't about who is in the wrong. It is listing known facts about current series of events and their impacts. Not speculation, morality or judgment.

@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc 3 жыл бұрын

@@KelticStingray Except sometimes you just have to say that one side is wrong. Like the storming of the capitol. There was no evidence of the stuff they were claiming and then they stormed the capitol (i.e. it is the right and factually accurate thing to condemn the people storming the capitol).

@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc 3 жыл бұрын

@ჶ Troopa3xd ჶ What exactly do you mean?

@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc 3 жыл бұрын

@ჶ Troopa3xd ჶ Why should I (if I understand your point)?

@MatthewCoker 3 жыл бұрын

The disputed territory in Cyprus would be interesting to learn more about

@estraume 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting topic, but very difficult to discus on KZfaq because of the political situation.

@exarder1377 3 жыл бұрын

Last video's they did on the Turkey/Greece problems were very bad, i'd prefere a more mature channel to take that on :p

@pedclarkemobile 3 жыл бұрын

@Henry Bushell ooh ooh oooooh! Swing that handbag Henry!

@Gardstyle35 3 жыл бұрын

@@estraume because of censorship.

@atruv2089 3 жыл бұрын

Oh god no, I like my island not being mentioned in any shape or form thank you.

@ettorerondospaudo6199 3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see the (pointless) dispute about the Mont Blanc/Monte Bianco summit between France and Italy.

@lucabralia5125 3 жыл бұрын

@Aye Ayee yes, but it's the highest in the alps and can bring a lot of tourism. If you want more context basically: It was always Italian, but the French also claim it, In my opinion we can divide it, by putting the border there, but the french want it all.

@tancredi7106 3 жыл бұрын

Im italian and when i think about it I’m so embarrassed 😞

@hendrikdependrik1891 3 жыл бұрын

Just give it to Belgium.

@tancredi7106 3 жыл бұрын

@@hendrikdependrik1891 based 😂

@antonio.paternostro_01 3 жыл бұрын

There's a Treaty that says the border is on the watershed between the States, so one side is Italian, the other is French. But of course France wants it all...

@Daniel-yc5fu 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it sums up the recent history of the independence movement, but lacks the reason for its origin, which is what the title of the video talks about

@subatenome 3 жыл бұрын

The argument I see being thrown around is that Catalonia is so rich that it carries the entire Spanish economy. Something I very much disagree with.

@juanpabloperezgomez4349 3 жыл бұрын

@@subatenome It is a significant amount but in no way carries the country, that's delirious talking.

@nikolaradulovic5283 3 жыл бұрын

20% is quite a lot for a province that's not the country's capital and if the other 15 provinces have a joint effort of 60%, that's just a whole lot of money going to the capital with barely anything in return

@juanpabloperezgomez4349 3 жыл бұрын

@@nikolaradulovic5283 Barely anything in return? Catalonia enjoys an extremely high level of self-government within Spain. Also take into account that Catalonia's relative weight in the Spanish economy has been going steadily down in the last few years. it's no longer the richest region but the 2nd, having been surpassed by Madrid, and per capita there are a few other regions that are richer. It used to be much higher as it was one of the few places in Spain that industrialized properly in the XIXth century, but that historical advantage is long gone as the rest of the country caught up.

@jotapeeme7478 3 жыл бұрын

@@juanpabloperezgomez4349 High Self-governance? Sorry? That is Navarra who doesnt pay taxes to the state. Think that before Franco, Catalonia and the Basque Country were Foral. And after the death of Franco, Catalonia and Euskal Herria lost their rights because helped the republican back then. Navarra supported Franco and still have their rights.

@TheCutiepuffs 3 жыл бұрын

As a Canadian this reminds me of the 1990s and Quebec. Would love to see a video summarizing that fight

@MrEnric98 3 жыл бұрын

How did they manage to get a referendum?

@davidjames4915 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrEnric98 A majority of members in Quebec's legislative assembly voted to conduct a referendum, that's how. Canada's provinces are semi-sovereign entities so they can pretty much do what they please in any area not constitutionally reserved to the national government. Canada's constitution has no provisions concerning secession of a province but it was generally recognized that a vote to leave in any province would have to be taken seriously on moral and democratic grounds. The Supreme Court's position was that secession had to be conducted legally, but both parties had a duty to conduct negotiations in good faith and that bad faith acts by either could undermine that side's standing in terms of international recognition. Applying the Canadian good faith logic to the Catalan situation, you'd be hard-pressed to come to a conclusion of anything other than bad faith behaviour on the part of the Spanish government, as they, unlike in Canada, definitively rule out having a referendum on secession at all.

@joselugo4536 3 жыл бұрын

What you are not telling is that in case of a Quebecois secession, they will lose a sizable portion of territory towards the northeast, and be confined to strictly French-speaking areas. Just as Catalonia will be reduced on a significant way if excluded from them areas in which the majority are Spanish speakers, say, Tabarnia.🎗🤣

@fakierre 3 жыл бұрын

@@joselugo4536 tabarnia doesn`t exist. Invention.

@joselugo4536 3 жыл бұрын

Neither an independent Catalonia on the entire history of Humanity.

@centristdadspodcast7395 3 жыл бұрын

Fair play for taking on topics which are, by definition, contentious. I'm looking forward to more videos in the series!

@pol... 3 жыл бұрын

I normally love this channel's videos and I still believe that this video is well made. However, in this particular case in which the topic at hand is one I know particulary well, I feel like there are too many big omissions and massive details that have been omitted which paint things in a different light than they really are. Mind you, these omissions are not in favour of any particular side, rather they do not let people have the full picture. For example stating that the independence movement started in the 1920's does not make much sense: either you go to its roots several centuries earlier or you only mention the modern independence movement. Or saying that there was only a 43 percent turnover in the 2017 independence referendum without mentioning that pro-Spain voters mostly did not participate in the referendum whereas many pro-Independece people who wanted and tried to vote where not able because the police was trying to avoid the referendum to take place. Again: this does not mean that they are taking any one's side: in fact the omissions hurt both side's rethoric and of course I understand that they cannot do a one hour long video because they need the views, but this leads me to think that probably when they treat other country's issues that I am not well-versed in, maybe they are also omitting large pieces of information and I cannot get a well-rounded picture.

@MrDrbld 3 жыл бұрын

There are smart techno kids who have no first hand idea or real sensitivity of the topic of which they have so impressively digitalised. I like their cartoons too, mind.

@WizzardJC 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I also wonder, for instance I live in Northern Ireland and most people who talk about it unifying with southern Ireland have no idea what they are talking about

@hanna_GG2 Жыл бұрын

100% true

@JL_Lux Жыл бұрын

@@WizzardJC with Brexit and the border fight it’s looking more likely for y’all

@G_Kchrst 9 ай бұрын

Yes they do. They always misinform simply because they don't dive in deeper.

@antonio.paternostro_01 3 жыл бұрын

A video about the Italian Südtirol region and its willingness to be reannexed to Austria would be really interesting.

@jcup4702 3 жыл бұрын

Reannexed is quite the thing to say since it was annexed by Italy in the first place.

@temporaneo617 3 жыл бұрын

@@jcup4702 yeah, and before that it was part of the austrian empire

@reichtangle7734 2 жыл бұрын

I think the phrase you’re looking for is: to be returned to Austria

@ilresole603 11 ай бұрын

@@reichtangle7734 And the territory of Istria must return to Italy.

@josipag2185 9 ай бұрын

Well, this is due to both Austria and Italy, and Italy lost Riviera and Corsica to France. And Dalmatia. They played badly. Both actually.

@pieter-janheyrman6751 3 жыл бұрын

In Belgium is there something simular going whit Flanders and Wallonia. And we now got a goverment since the last video :). Sidenote I think Puidgimont got refuge in Flanders when Spain wanted to arrest him.

@Roeckx 3 жыл бұрын

@@DrBreadstick While economically it sounds good. I think there will be a lot of resistance to this idea. Especially from the Flemish side.

@vincentdegheyndt3609 3 жыл бұрын

@@Roeckx if I may, why do you think this idea would be met resistance in flanders ? As a frenchspeaking belgian from brussels, I have met a few walloons who said they wouldn't mind becoming french should Belgium separate since the language is essentially the same. Does this feeling also apply to flemish and dutch people or not at all ?

@rsrs8632 3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentdegheyndt3609 independence is not the same as becoming part of a bigger country. I think most Flemish prefer to be part of Belgium than being a part of a bigger Netherlands. What the Flemish want, is more control over their own laws, not independence. With the different reorganisations of Belgium, most of the demands have been met and it is no longer seen as an aspirational future.

@Roeckx 3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentdegheyndt3609 There is a certain pride among the Flemish. So splitting Belgium just too merge with the Netherlands wouldn't sit well I think. But this is just my opinion that I have with anecdotal evidence. I also believe that a Flanders-Netherlands merge would be economically very strong. But with Antwerp being the second largest port in Europe and Rotterdam being the first. There is a certain fear that the focus would shift more to the port of Rotterdam. (I work in the port of Antwerp btw) This way the benefit would be more for the Netherlands than Flanders.

@NAYRUthunder99 3 жыл бұрын

@@MLV1000 there is some comment in this capslock

@waffle2434 3 жыл бұрын

You guys should do a video on the Western Sahara, it is usually over looked when talked about disputed areas, but it is pretty important for most North African relations.

@gregorytheblackkitten9422 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing to talk about here . As long as the algerian military regime back these mercenaries they will always be tensions now Morocco is ready to support also the Kabyle independence in north Algeria . Fire with fire

@user-ud7ld4rf9b 2 жыл бұрын

What's mor important is The independance of Kabylia and the Touaregs lands that are colonized by the algerian army

@elbb6623 2 жыл бұрын

Im from layoune sahara. Sahara was always moroccan

@nebulouswillie3167 3 жыл бұрын

If you’re feeling brave you could cover Cornish Independence

@tomrogue13 3 жыл бұрын

Thats a thing?

@Pdh24 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomrogue13 yeah in a way they want to be separated from being called Devon and Cornwall and call themselves cornwall and then deven will be devon/devonshire. I also think they should kind of separate In terms of region. cornish do have there different ways to that of devonshire lot

@ollie6176 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pdh24 the only problem being Cornwall and Devon are too of the poorest counties

@Psyk60 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pdh24 I'm not sure what you mean, because Devon and Cornwall are already separate counties with their own councils.

@nebulouswillie3167 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomrogue13 google the Mebyon Kernow party, they’ve got 4 seats in Cornwall council and want Cornwall to be a country within the United Kingdom like Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, as opposed to a county of England

@jonretolaza3238 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see coverage on the Basque independence movement!!

@stevenkleinegesse9752 3 жыл бұрын

We'd love to see discussions on these regions: - Hong Kong - Kashmir - Taiwan - Kosovo - Northern Cyprus - Palestine - Crimea

@kyx-001 3 жыл бұрын

Great way for the entire world to explode

@aydarousb 3 жыл бұрын

Somaliland

@appleslover 3 жыл бұрын

@@helioseklipse they're entirely in china (the first two) and hope is to be abandoned

@Doping1234 3 жыл бұрын

Some people just want to see the world burn

@mail2257 3 жыл бұрын

Repuplik of srpska

@cathalkelley8751 3 жыл бұрын

Western Sahara’s independence movement could be quite interesting, I know Trump put some fuel on the fire before his term ended by recognizing Morocco’s sovereignty there

@ervandrafadhlil403 3 жыл бұрын

IDK if the current US government care about that region anyway. But knowing Biden they might undo the recognition just to piss Trump

@cathalkelley8751 3 жыл бұрын

They might not but I expect them to take a more Atlantic orientated shift in foreign policy and that would of course fit that narrative. Also with Biden’s push for strengthening democracy globally the oppression of Sahrawi’s might not go unnoticed. I also think it’ll be important economically in the years to come with European countries creating stronger trading ties to sub Saharan Africa and the western coast is one of the safest regions of the Sahara. I expect the Moroccan gov to start implementing heavier handed policies in the south.

@ervandrafadhlil403 3 жыл бұрын

@@cathalkelley8751 the us goal is to sthregthen its interest. So as long as Morroco stay on good term with America than the us has no need to make a new enemy

@ervandrafadhlil403 3 жыл бұрын

@@cathalkelley8751 amd about the economic stuff Morroco had sign a deal with europe to sthrengthen economic ties as well to develop the region

@iliasszennati173 3 жыл бұрын

Oppresion tf you talking about sahrawis are moroccans , if they were really buying for the creation of the sahrawi state why did they only fight Moroccos Claim , why not algerias sahara , and libyas and mauritanias , the polisario as a whole is a puppet of algeria , it was funded and created it to have revenge on Morocco over the sand war , the sahara and many regions were always moroccan but europeans carved us up and made my country as small as tunisia , sahrawis in morocco also are happy , my father is sahrawi descendant he identifies as moroccan , also the polisario current leader isnt even sahrawi hes a moroccan from marrakesh , the group also has done human and drug trafficking , they have done criminal acts to fund their group and overall you people still having the idea of supporting them is frankly quite idiotic

@a2falcone 3 жыл бұрын

I think this video overlooked two big facts, which painted a distorted version of how Catalonians feel about this: 1. Since 2017 and before, polls have never shown a clear majority support for independence, with both options usually a few points below 50% (because of undecided respondents). What polls consistently show is that Catalonia is divided in two very polarized halves. 2. The results of both referendums have to be taken with a bunch of salt. Obviously, most people against independence was against the illegal referendums too, so they didn't show up. I was surprised you didn't mention the turnout of the 2014 consultation was a mere 37%. And the 2017 referendum was a huge mess, with no guarantees at all that the results were trustworthy. The overview of the independence movement was very lacking too, without delving into its causes, motivations nor why it became so popular in the last decades.

@dionbaillargeon4899 2 жыл бұрын

I think the fact that, as of today, there's no clear majority support for indepedence shouldn't obscure the fact that around 70% supports holding a referendum, something that the Spanish government would go out of its way to prevent from happening. Often through the most authoritarian and questionable methods. And let's not foget that the pro-independence bloc has consistently won every single election since the current movement started.

@donrococon7833 2 жыл бұрын

@@dionbaillargeon4899 democracy is a mistake

@arielschant9841 2 жыл бұрын

I think that holding a referendum is the only way to know where the actual majority stands, and i also think that the fact that Spain does everything it can not to grant a popular vote, also recurring to violent and shameful methods, is more eloquent than any discussion about possible voters.

@lizerbernad4448 2 жыл бұрын

@@arielschant9841 The thing is the goverment is obligated by law to enforce the constitution no matter which party is ruling or what they actually prefer to do.

@arielschant9841 2 жыл бұрын

@@lizerbernad4448 If the constitution says that a people has no right to self-determination and the State has to smash senior citizens’ heads on the street because of their simple will to just make their voice heard (and in a time when self-determination of the people is so central to society), then the constitution has to be changed to better fit the time it is living. The violent and/or repressive way the situation has been so far managed by the Kingdom looks like how authority worked in the 70’s, and it should not be part of what European citizenship means in this century. Especially when millions of citizens are asking to be consulted whether not be subjects of a king anymore, and explore the option to transition into a parliamentary republic system. It is just not right by any means not to grant them even the chance to a legally non-binding consultation referendum…

@endianAphones 3 жыл бұрын

Spain is somewhat of a champion in disputed borders... 3 exclaves in Morocco, Olivença, Gibraltar, all the separatist states...

@alexderamon2060 3 жыл бұрын

And an exclave in France and an island that they share with France that 6 month of the year is Spanish territory and the 6 others French lol

@pekojounin 3 жыл бұрын

@@MLV1000 it actually brings xenophobia in general. It is creating hispanophobia in Catalonia and Catalanphobia in the rest of Spain.

@pekojounin 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexderamon2060 Calling it an island is maybe too much. It is super small piece of land in the middle of a river with nothing in it. Calling it "an exclave" is a little much.

@mapache-ehcapam 3 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile the UK. Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Falklands, Antarctica, every fucking island in the Pacific. Believe me, Spain is nowhere close.

@pekojounin 3 жыл бұрын

All the separatist states? Just as a pointer, Spain has no states but regions (technically the name is Autonomous Comunities). But, as far as my knowledge goes, the only two separatist movements are Catalonia and the Basque Country (which is now not very buoyant).

@MulderStarling 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video.

@faustcardiel1272 2 жыл бұрын

Good Video, big thanks from Catalonia ;-)

@pnagyd 3 жыл бұрын

Szeklerland in Romania would be nice to include too. It's rarely talked about in English. :)

@isma4507 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha where are you from?

@guccifer_3.0 3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@dharmagall9082 2 жыл бұрын

Ön magyar?

@calindrugaliov8217 3 жыл бұрын

Guys, I would appreciate if you will do a video on Transnistria. A very complex, yet such a neglected issue. Greetings from Moldova.

@tsareric1921 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love a series on disputed regions and independence movements. One about Belgium wanting to slip in 2, I've heard about that idk if Belgians support it tho, could be good. Spain is full of independence movements aren't they?

@edwardoleyba3075 3 жыл бұрын

And what happened with the Independence Movement for The Isle of Dogs? 😉

@MiguelLopez-yc2rh 3 жыл бұрын

In Spain there are separatist movements in three regions: Catalonia, Basque Country and Galicia. It isnt surprising at all. Most countries of the world have at least a territory with separatist movements.

@Sergio-wn4sp 3 жыл бұрын

@@MiguelLopez-yc2rh not only those I'd also add movements in the other 2 Catalan speaking autonomies, they're not as important tho (and I'd add that Basque country isn't only a thing at the Basque country itself but Euskal Herria (Basque Country + a part of Navarre)

@tsareric1921 3 жыл бұрын

@@edwardoleyba3075 What's that, I have no clue what your on about?

@edwardoleyba3075 3 жыл бұрын

@@tsareric1921 . It was a bit of a spoof movement some years ago. The Isle of Dogs is in east London. They wanted their own local council there.

@bentsivertsen4968 3 жыл бұрын

Transnistria would be interesting to be covered in this channel.

@dom968 3 жыл бұрын

Guys you have to put the precentage of people that voted in the non-binding referendum not just the result, otherwise the % of the votes are meaningless. Come on get your shit together.

@juanpabloperezgomez4349 3 жыл бұрын

There's no official turnout figure, but estimations put it between 37 and 41%.

@dom968 3 жыл бұрын

@@juanpabloperezgomez4349 I know but that should be mentioned like the binding referendum.

@user-ku3bu7se8n 3 жыл бұрын

@@dom968 I mean they did. Skip to 7 minutes in and they literally mention it.

@dom968 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ku3bu7se8n (5:15) is the 2014 non-binding referendum which TLDR gave no % percentage of voter turn out. (19:00) is the 2017

@juanpabloperezgomez4349 3 жыл бұрын

@@dom968 Yeah, that's definitely info that should have been there.

@coenraadsnyman5229 3 жыл бұрын

I am literally busy doing geography homework on Andalusia.

@myvirtualpresencefyi 3 жыл бұрын

Another interesting and well researched video. Thank you. Yes, "Disputed Regions" would be up my street. I wonder if this would include regions or territories which WERE disputed but enjoy, today, a mutually beneficial autonomy. Eg: Monaco, Isle Of Man, London City..... and what are those benefits, loopholes and tax dodges agreed by both territories.

@letlhogilemothoagae8198 3 жыл бұрын

A disputed regions series would be awesome

@xtoo550 2 жыл бұрын

Millions is an overstatement...

@user-wl1uz5sb9f 3 жыл бұрын

the high pro-independent result on both referendums is because unionist boycotted it from the get-go and many did not vote, it does not really mean much. Polls are more reliable and it has been a toss-up for more than a decade now (btw pre 2005 independentist were a tiny minority many Catalans still believing on enhanced self-governance via constitutional reform)

@bernatboschfolch 9 ай бұрын

That is not the case. 43% of the census has shown to be in favour, which means that with a turnout of 80% in a referendum accepted by Spain, the Yes has chances to win with no doubt.

@user-wl1uz5sb9f 9 ай бұрын

@@bernatboschfolch go to a stats class please

@JoseMiguel-dv7dl 9 ай бұрын

@@bernatboschfolch 43% was the turnout

@KhaalixD 3 жыл бұрын

great video!

@jiffychips7517 3 жыл бұрын

Please do more of these! One on Rojava or Cyprus would be interesting.

@xxxxxx-rg6qr 3 жыл бұрын

cyrus is turkey

@diegopozas1694 3 жыл бұрын

Spain has always been a very regional country. Asturias is different from Murcia, Catalonia is nothing like Seville and Extremadura's culture differs massively from that of the Basque Country. Regionalism has always been a thing. Many people identify themselves as "galician" or "valencian" rather than "spanish". I'd even say that european sentiment is bigger than the national one, in some cases. Spain's nationalistic sentiment isn't generally strong, for a lot of historic reasons. That being said, Catalonia has always had that strongly regional sentiment. Modern independence movements are the result of nearly 20 years of exploiting that sentiment for mere political gain, aided by Madrid's perpetual disdain and inability to deal with the subject. It's quite sad, imho. Yeah, Catalans have a culture different from Castillians, and so what? So do Asturians or Canarians and (pretty much) no one is asking for independence. Now we find ourselves with a polarized society, two halves of a region believing in absolutely opposite ideals as a result of political irresponsibility. Dialogue is what this situation begs for, but sometimes I think the damage has already been done, and that even if independence doesn't happen, it will take at least a generation to clear today's issues. Many young people really believe that spain is a pseudo-fascist regime and that independence is the only answer to that. That's not gonna disappear in a few weeks, even if a referendum comes out against of independence.

@HeadsFullOfEyeballs 3 жыл бұрын

The easiest* solution, in my opinion, is to have an equitable federalized system that's organized bottom-up, instead of a hyper-centralized state that pushes the same agenda on everybody whether it's suitable for their local situation or not. "Madrid" has far too much power -- the national agenda should be decided by every region together, every region's agenda should be decided by every municipality together, and so on. *Not _easy,_ mind. Just easier than the others.

@juanpabloperezgomez4349 3 жыл бұрын

@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs That'd have a point if Spain was not already a federal state in all but name, and extremely decentralized. To say that "Madrid" has too much power completely misses the point.

@diegopozas1694 3 жыл бұрын

Spain is a hyper-centralized state now? I really don't think that's true.

@granotaapellido839 3 жыл бұрын

That's why "Spain is different"

@joselugo4536 3 жыл бұрын

Hypercentralized such as France?🗼🤣

@PaulPacheco99 3 жыл бұрын

I'm from Puerto Rico, so, I would love to see your take on Puerto Rico's status issue.

@saramainyugen8002 2 жыл бұрын

Danke!

@fghfgh5572 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks G

@IQ-ft7ty 3 жыл бұрын

South-Tyrol independence/reunification with Austria would make for an interesting video since almost all parties in their regional parliament are autonomist or seperatist (except the far right LN).

@bajlozi6873 3 жыл бұрын

Really?

@FlagAnthem 3 жыл бұрын

Separatism in Italy is overinflated.

@lucaesposito6896 3 жыл бұрын

Il Sud Tirolo è e sempre rimarrà italiano, punto. Non daremo mai più occasione all'Austria di valicare il confine.

@IQ-ft7ty 3 жыл бұрын

@@bajlozi6873 Hmm?

@IQ-ft7ty 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlagAnthem Well i mean technically the whole north wants to separate but South Tyrol has another language, culture and history than the rest of italy so its probably the most likely to separate...

@charlesnoseworthy9433 3 жыл бұрын

I really liked this video, very interesting, learned quite a bit, and it cleared up some things. Would appreciate a video on Ocitanian independance, if that is not popular then a video on the westen sahara would be interesting (the unrecognised country underneath Moroco). Thank you very much have a good day and keep up the hard work.

@mundogameplay1341 3 жыл бұрын

The Falkland Islands will be an awesome episode! Although it requires a lot of study about the subject from both sides!

@nicobortoluzzi8724 3 жыл бұрын

He already released the Falkland episode on the TLDR UK channel

@mundogameplay1341 3 жыл бұрын

@@nicobortoluzzi8724 If i don't remember wrong, they only explanied the British Overseas Territories, not the dispute itself. A complete video dedicated to the topic!!

@vincentdegheyndt3609 3 жыл бұрын

I would be very interested in an analysis on flemish nationalism in Belgium and the current state of belgium in general from your perspective. As a belgian, I often find external views on this topic to be way more hindsightful than the very divided coverage from our national media

@boldiegoldie 3 жыл бұрын

9:50 i think you should do Northern Ireland

@jetwaffle1116 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe I’m biased because I literally live 300 meters from the border in a town split in half by it, but I really think an analysis of the Irish border is needed just to show the reality of it to a lot of people

@flappetyflippers 3 жыл бұрын

You might need a whole series...

@flappetyflippers 3 жыл бұрын

@@jetwaffle1116 in what way?

@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ 3 жыл бұрын

Most of northern Ireland do not want to merge. Wouldn't be the same video at all

@flappetyflippers 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ it could be more focused on that historical aspect and explaining the troubles?

@Simon-tc1mc 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining this so well

@alexm8047 3 жыл бұрын

And this is why Scotland leaving the UK and joining the EU is so stupid, spain would never allow Scotland to Join, imagine the confidence that would give the Catalans.

@ab-ym3bf 3 жыл бұрын

Omg, how many times has that claim already been debunked.

@alexm8047 3 жыл бұрын

@@ab-ym3bf if you truly believe that I question you're ability to comprehend geopolitics. Country states will always do what's in their best interest. A independent Scotland is contrary to Spain's best interest.

@joselugo4536 3 жыл бұрын

But Lil'England is beyond the EU borders, why Spain would care for a non-member?

@jamesmorten6571 3 жыл бұрын

@@joselugo4536 Because it would send a message to the Catalans that if you gain independence you can just join the EU and everything will be fine and dandy, which goes completely against Madrid's agenda. Therefor it would be in the best interest of Spain to block Scottish accession.

@joselugo4536 3 жыл бұрын

As the UK is no longer a member of the EU it doesn't apply the rule of not allowing a new member carved out from a member state. Catalonia would lose membership inside the European Union if it declared an unilateral independence, because SPAIN is a standing member STATE.

@flightsimlucas7273 3 жыл бұрын

It would be great to see an episode on the dispute between Flanders and Wallonia in Belgium. Although, bear in mind that a lot of people will be pleased and or angry with these types of things. Even so, it would be great because you simply present the facts and there is little to no Bias in the reporting :)

@mateosanfitz9625 3 жыл бұрын

5:19 that referendum was a flop literally less than 40% of people participated cmon now.... and the 2017 one was completely chaotic.

@ishrod_tweaks 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, in the 2017 one, testimonies of people being able to vote 7 times and very low participation of non-independentist as they didn't recognise the validity of such referendum.

@JimCullen 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah pretty poor reporting not to mention that a poll declared unconstitutional before it even occurred was likely to dissuade unionists from participating more than it would dissuade separatists.

@joaolaja5961 3 жыл бұрын

@@ishrod_tweaks Then why is the Spanish government so afraid of making a referendum? And if there are more people against them in favor of independence why did the independents win the parliament?

@jalenbrown1363 3 жыл бұрын

@@joaolaja5961 Because the Spanish Constitution clearly states that the unity of Spain is indissoluble. There’s literally no legal framework for holding this referendum unless Spain were to draft a new Constitution. We have similar language in the US.

@joaolaja5961 3 жыл бұрын

@@jalenbrown1363 A referendum doesn't jeopardize the unity of Spain, it is just a question to determine if the population wants Catalonia to become an independent state in the form of a republic.

@sully9767 3 жыл бұрын

I would like a series on disputed borders and territories. Those would be great.

@alanjimena958 2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@dimitrigama5205 3 жыл бұрын

Catalonia and Spain: arguing over independence. Meanwhile Portugal thinking Olivença lookin Hella thick

@beanjm9773 3 жыл бұрын

would be interested to get your take on the disputed subject of the reunification of the island of Ireland, especially given the recent border/Brexit issue

@piloul3538 3 жыл бұрын

A disputed border (kinda): The Normand Archipelago aka the Channel Islands. From the split of the duchy of Normandy in 1204 to the "Northern Patagonia" prank that still goes on (last occurence in july 2019) including the Saint-Marcouf restitution

@MarkDDG 3 жыл бұрын

If u are going to talk about disputed territories, Maybe also talk about the Dutch/Belgian town of Baarle-Nassau/Baarle-Hertog and the river where the border between the two countries was changed. It shows that you're stronger together and it is not impossible to negotiate

@DanM012324 3 жыл бұрын

Here in Scotland we had a legally binding referendum in 2014 in which both sides promised to respect the result. That lasted 5 minutes before the nationalists started harping on about having another one..

@mimovil8730 3 жыл бұрын

The thing with referendums is that it is easy for them to become nerverendums.

@LordDim1 2 жыл бұрын

These sorts of independence referenda are extremely one-sided too, because unionists will need to win every single referendum in perpetuity, while nationalists only need to win once. The SNP will continue to try to have a referendum again and again and again until they get the result they want

@bradleygeorge3951 3 жыл бұрын

I think a video on Mayotte a territory of France in the Mozambique Channel which is contested by the Comoros islands would be a really interesting video

@Lapantouflemagic0 3 жыл бұрын

no honestly it would be boring. even if we were to pose that France did wrong in not giving Mayotte its independence with the rest, the fact is that today, right now, the people of Mayotte have no duty to join the Comoros if they don't want to. and the very very much do not want to.

@van__933 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lapantouflemagic0 there was no “giving” there was a referendum on all islands and they decided not to live France

@rcidcobo 3 жыл бұрын

In 2014 a referendum was held, in which 80% of voter answered yes to independency... but something important is missing. ONLY 43% of the population voted in that referendum, voters for yes, mostly. The rest of the population (mostly voters for no) did not vote, because the referendum was illegal.

@guss77 3 жыл бұрын

You'd likely not want to touch this subject with a 10 foot pole, and I don't blame ya, but I'd love to hear your take on the Palestinian Authority, Gaza and the territories occupied by Israel (yes, you can hear the bias in the question).

@evolution__snow6784 3 жыл бұрын

It's not biased lol, what they are doing is against un law

@guss77 3 жыл бұрын

@@evolution__snow6784 I meant I am biased (well, actually, every one is - I'm just being upfront about it). I'm not stating my bias, though, but you are welcome to guess at it :-)

@guss77 3 жыл бұрын

@@evolution__snow6784 you know what? I fixed the question to be slightly less biased (I believe - I am, after all - biased - so I may be wrong about this).

@gooran100 3 жыл бұрын

There was no bias the comment it was 100% factual without any bais

@juanmola2000 3 жыл бұрын

To touch that from a 10 foot pole? Not even by remote controled robots across a continent and inside of a bunker lol

@williamalfonso1373 3 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing a Poll Catalunya wanting independence but weird enough was that many people in Barcelona voted against it. Imagine an independent Catalunya without the Main city.

@JoeMartinez18 3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the polls were illegitimate with only a quarte of the people actually voting, and even then getting less than half

@herman1francis 2 жыл бұрын

most people who live in barcelona are not catalan

@SC00B52 3 жыл бұрын

You guys missed why there is such a strong sense of nationalism which goes back to medieval times. The video gives the impression that it is very recent, and while there have been some major events in recent years, the history goes way back.

@pepitogrillo3368 3 жыл бұрын

It’s never been as strong as now because hispanophobia has never been institutionalised as it is now. The strongest nationalisms prior to the current one occurred in the XVIII century

@hullie7529 9 ай бұрын

That's like saying that Nazism goes way back because it talks about the origins of the German people and the Holy Roman Empire. Let's be honest, all nationalism tries to justify itself in history, that's what is all about, but the current political movement's roots are what they are, just like Nazism started with a certain moustached fellow and not with the existence of the Germanic tribes.

@SimplyHealthTips 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely! The world (at large) doesn't even know "Catalunya", let alone knowing the hundreds-of-years history between this country and Spain, before the territory of "Spain" even existed, and Catalunya was its own, independent nation.

@SC00B52 8 ай бұрын

@@SimplyHealthTips Well technically it was the Kingdom of Aragon, which had the area of Catalunya comprised within it, but also other areas. Just to be technical👌

@SimplyHealthTips 8 ай бұрын

@@SC00B52 Yes. True. Catalan was spoken in the area, although I wasn’t there at the time. ;-)

@aukondk 3 жыл бұрын

Croatia has some interesting border disputes. On the Slovenian side there's a lot of drama, especially about access to the Adriatic. The Serbian side has lots of issues because the border is basically the River Danube and rivers change course. There's even a section of land the size of Gibraltar which isn't claimed by either side and has been claimed by a Czech activist, founding a new country called Liberland.

@bobbiecorner 2 жыл бұрын

Alberta within Canada, like to see a video o.

@sanchari.c 3 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to this series!

@stephaniegraphie6776 3 жыл бұрын

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@dianatyson6511 3 жыл бұрын

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@baloonaticsw 3 жыл бұрын

The Western Sahara, for sure! Between the renewed war between Morocco and the SADR and the seeming trade of US recognition of Morocco’s claim to the territory for Moroccan recognition of Israel, it is definitely an overlooked region.

@alinobunaga 3 жыл бұрын

true!!! btw i wouldn't go so far as to call it a renewed war since there is only skirmishs.

@fabulouscat3911 3 жыл бұрын

You should do the disputed regions in the Caucasus

@davidringmann3395 3 жыл бұрын

I would like to ad that the turnout was only ~53% (2017:~79%), so a legal mandate would be slim.

@MsPerchero 3 жыл бұрын

and the "unionist" parties didnt campaign, instead told people to stay home Edit: I mean on October 1st 2017, during the (deemed illegal) referendum

@Mutxarra 3 жыл бұрын

@@MsPerchero That's absolutely false, of course they campaigned.

@pol... 3 жыл бұрын

@@MsPerchero That is a lie. They campaigned and they told everyone that it was safe to vote and they encouraged everyone to vote. It's easy to find videos of Illa, Garriga, Carrizosa and Fernández all encouraging people to vote.

@MsPerchero 3 жыл бұрын

@@pol... we are talking 2017s 1-O, not last month

@pol... 3 жыл бұрын

@@MsPerchero In that case you are absolutely right. The pro-union forces did, in their majority, not vote in the 2017 referendum. However there was also many pro-independence forces who also were not able / who were afraid to vote since the police was trying to stop the referendum. It is clear that that referendum was NOT a reflection of the popular opinion, though.

@alexties6933 3 жыл бұрын

A video about the italian Ladin communities would be interesting. The 5 groups, Cortina, Fassa, Fondom, Gardena and Badia, were essentially split up between 3 provinces and are, to this day, politically dominated by the german and italian language group. Despite beeing a minority language in italy, the oldest to be exact, they still dont have the same rights as German and French minorities. For example German and French have german/french translations on their documents, while ladin people dont.

@alengrm7488 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe you could do a video about Slovene-Croatian border(waters) dispute

@germanogirardelli 3 жыл бұрын

tldr please do a vid on northern italy and its possible separatist movements (mostly veneto)

@pedrobotelho2265 3 жыл бұрын

Catalonia: We are not Spain! Portugal: That's my boy!

@raku3455 3 жыл бұрын

Catalonia 7,5 million cirizens , only 1,2 millions want to be independents, i am from catalonia and the mayority of catalan population want to be spaniards

@zen370865 3 жыл бұрын

That is just a lie. You count the votes against all the population. Please spanish people, stop ashaming yourself. Holeeeeee!!!

@AlejandroGarcia-wz1qi 3 жыл бұрын

@@zen370865 Ya no sois 2 millones los movilizados por la causa, habrá que ir asumiéndolo. Sois el 27% del censo y en 2017 erais el 37%

@MrDrbld 3 жыл бұрын

@@zen370865 Not all critics of the 'procés' are Spanish. Others know about the "3%" extra commision to get things done, hilarious debt of the Generalitat, the immigration problem, the black economy and the propaganda machine called TV3. Get real. Catalonia used to produce things - Pharma, Automóvil, Textile, Publishing as opposed to the rest of Spain. Not anymore. Moreover, the EU will never support 'independent' status to Catalonia despite - and most likely because of - the hysterical flag, language and identity propaganda from the nationalists. The legacy of the "3%" cronyism such as with the Pujol Dynasty puts off FDI. La Caixa, Banc Sabadell and many major corporations already moved their HQs outside of Catalonia just upon hearing that there could be an independent regime that would assume control over their holdings. A vote of no confidence from the very assets the nationalists think are 'Catalan'. An "independent" Catalonia is outside the Schengen; with no Euro and financing from Brussels; it would have a colossal obligation for public sector workers wages and pensions; no competitive advantage such as a strong currency; no independant army. An "independent" Catalonia would be a ruinous, weak and immiserated place unable to defend itself and prostrated before its former biggest trading partners - Aragon, Valencia and Madrid and France and likely a vassal state of the Chinese. Most dolorous for the majority would be that it would be excluded from the Spanish league. Its inhabitants and impoverished, hard working taxpayers would be hardest hit. The Spanish economy would also be severely impacted, so central government will not allow it. Rather inconvenient. A better future for Catalonia is in a higher technology ecosystem and a skilled population trading as a Spanish autonomy closely cooperating with Madrid, a likely mega hub competing with... Miami. There will be no Brexit factor for Catalonia, Brexit now being considered a runaway success. Catalonia is not UK

@MrDrbld 3 жыл бұрын

@@zen370865 There's a great book written by a great Catalan. It's called "Ni Som, ni serem". Very sobering. Te lo recomiendo.

@jacobovega2402 3 жыл бұрын

Well the main problem with Catalonias independence is that the Spanish Constitution very clearly states that the Territories and Autonomous Communities that constitute the territory of Spain are UNDIBISIBLE. Thats why the referedum was deemed ilegal before it even happened because it very clearly goes against the constitution. In order to let Catalonia make a binding referendum for indepence the Constitution would have to be reformed first, wich is incredible hard needing a majority of 2/3s of the chamber to rerwite the Preliminary Title wich is the one that covers this topic. This is incredibly hard not only in general but given the new political model of several parties in power that Spain has been having for the last years it's pretty much imposible to pass a Constitutional reform of said Title and of course Nation-wide parties don't want Catalonia to go independent because it's one of, if not, the wealthiest regions in Spain and the Independent movement it's pretty unpopular outside of Catalonia. Furthermore reforming the Constitution to allow this kind of independent movements would really damage Spain as whole since not only Catalonia but both Galicia and the Basque Country have strong independent movements. So as of right now the only way of achieving Catalonian indepence is through an armed conflict, wich, ain't gonna happen'.

@disbauxa 2 жыл бұрын

It will happen something similar. We’ll be independent

@ninjacole803 2 жыл бұрын

I mean, the notion that “well the country that controls them now has to change their constitution first so they can’t be independent sorry” is imperialist dog shit, democracy decides, not bureaucracy

@sanjayrai2934 2 жыл бұрын

@@ninjacole803 they signed the constitution, didn't they?

@ninjacole803 2 жыл бұрын

@@sanjayrai2934 the constitution was dictated to them before the region had any autonomy, by a pseudo-facist dictator. So no, not really

@sanjayrai2934 2 жыл бұрын

@@ninjacole803 no I mean by reconquista

@Watergox 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love if you would do Sudtirol and Veneto for Italy. I could provide you some contacts for interviews about boths.

@jakobseersholm8693 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see an episode about the Sami people and their politics. I always wondered if they are cool with being part of Sweden and Norway or if they want independence

@Bb13190 3 жыл бұрын

How can you call the 2017 "vote " a referendum ? This so called referendum was held only by independentist, there were no list of registered voters (someone could vote multiple time at the same location), they counted vote before the end and with only independentist present. This was a political manifestation but absolutely not a referendum.

@JofreRS 3 жыл бұрын

There were voters rolls, you had your polling place defined (like in any other election) to avoid double-voting, and there was an additional internet backup system to also avoid double-voting. When an armed terrorist organization destroys voting places, violently attacks voters all around the country in a coordinated attack, and disable phones and internet to avoid the validation in place, then you have to make do with watever you have on hand. But you would not want to stop democracy just because a few ultra-nationalist terrorists coordinated violent attacks with foreign operatives on the day of the election, right?

@Bb13190 3 жыл бұрын

@Jofre the video I have seen, no one checked the voter rolls. But I was not there so I will not contest it. But calling the Spanish police a terrorist organization is very extreme and completely discredit everything else you might say. I agree that the repression was a lot more violent that it needed to be. But when terrorist armed group launch a coordinated action, there are usually dozens of death (Paris attack for instance). So maybe you should adapt your vocabulary.

@JofreRS 3 жыл бұрын

@@Bb13190 There was an attempt to use the voter rolls, but as I said, the government took down the internet to block online verification, and physically and violently took the written voter rolls from the places they could access. This is why the videos on the afternoon (when the Spanish government let the press record) don't show the voter rolls. The concept behind the police attacks during the referendum was not to stop the vote --it was too late for that. The concept was to literally terrorize any potential voter into not voting. If there is an organization that wants to cause terror through violent attacks in order to achieve their political goals, I would call the organization terrorist. Yes, there were no dead people directly because of the violence (there were dead people because of police blocking emergency services), but the violence caused 900 wounded, so I would also not say "it was nothing".

@martinpoliotti5917 3 жыл бұрын

A series on contentious borders and disputed regions would be incredibly interesting! Taiwan and Hong Kong are two great options to start with 🤩🙌🏼

@crimvael4951 2 жыл бұрын

Hong Kong y Taiwan no tienen nada que ver con Cataluña

@leetab1x 3 жыл бұрын

Disputed regions - anywhere involving a dispute from China (and the associated legality of such disputes) would be an interesting starting area.

@Armadeus 3 жыл бұрын

could you cover the western cape independence movement? it''s the first time i've ever heard of a secession movement happening in south africa but it could be interesting to talk about. support is at around 34% atm

@renatogolia211 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video. You did miss the juicy topic: what would happen to Catalonia from a EU membership point of view?

@frazzyten2447 3 жыл бұрын

there would be no way Spain would allow it

@renatogolia211 3 жыл бұрын

@@frazzyten2447 i don't think it's so black and white. While agreeing with you that spain would never willingly approve it, it is also true that Catalonia is such a big part of spanish economy that not having any trade deal/close relationship with them would be a huge hit. So, I'm not so sure.

@pekojounin 3 жыл бұрын

@@renatogolia211 Most companies have said they would leave Catalonia for Valencia already. In fact, around 1500 changed their central HQs from Barcelona to Alicante when the independence was suggested last time. So, i don't see it happening.

@Miguel-vk1vh 3 жыл бұрын

@@frazzyten2447 i don't ser why it wouldn't because on a scenario on wich Catalonia becomes independent there would have to be a change in the spanish constitution wich would mean that most of the people of Spain would be fine with It existing as a country and also I think Spain said that they wouldn't veto an indepeni scotland so I think they would accept it

@raku3455 3 жыл бұрын

This never going to happen

@Gamerblam 3 жыл бұрын

7:42 I think there’s some slight hiccup there? But regardless I think this is a pretty good and informative video. 👍🏻

@krokuke 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think there is, the spanish are the majority in catalonia so it would make sence that they would vote against.

@vulc1 3 жыл бұрын

@@krokuke eksid

@krokuke 3 жыл бұрын

@@vulc1 A 2007 demographic survey concluded that 50% spoke spanish as their first language and 32% catalan

@vulc1 3 жыл бұрын

@@krokuke Esiteks, su protsendid on väga valed. Mul on siin käepärast Euroopa konsortsiumi (st mitte Hispaania riigi või ettevõtte) tehtud 2018. aasta uuring. Küsimus: Millist keelt kodus kõige enam räägitakse? Vastused: kastiilia 52%, katalaani 42%, araabia 1,5%, inglise 1,1%, muu 3,4%. Teiseks, millel põhineb su veendumus, et peamiselt kastiiliakeelsed on iseseisvuse vastu? Tegu on pealinna kõrval Hispaania kõige jõukama piirkonnaga, seega on Hispaaniast lahkumisest rohkem võita kui kaotada. Mis keeltesse puutub, siis ka peamiselt kastiiliakeelsed on suuremal või vähemal määral kakskeelsed, st katalaani keel ei ole probleemiks. Muide, katalaani idenditeet on väga tugev, näiteks kastiiliakeelsete immigrantide lapsed peavad ennast täiskatalaanideks, sh on ka separatistlikult meelestatud, isegi kui kodus veel peamiselt kastiilia keelt räägivad.

@krokuke 3 жыл бұрын

@@vulc1 See on sama nagu küsida "miks peaks venelased narvas tahtma venemaaga liituda?" Sama loogika kehtib hispaanlastele, majanduslikult jah, venelastel on parem eestis aga muidu kultuuri põhjal nad ikka tahavad venemaaga liituda. Ja mul tuli kirjaviga, ma tahtsin kirjutada 42% 32% asemel.

@MasterPeibol 3 жыл бұрын

Congrats, very well documented.

@MichMoviesInk 3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see some content on the Bengali region, since it crosses multiple borders of various types, encompassing Bangladesh, parts of India and more. A video on this would lend itself to exploring some complex and historic issues, in which the UK played a major role as colonising power.

@cooldude4378 3 жыл бұрын

Whilst I'd consider myself fairly knowledgeable when it comes to history, more modern history has sadly escaped me. I'd like to understand about Kosovo. When it comes to what the UN recognises, I dont think theres a more disputed region in Europe.

@sallyslife7566 3 жыл бұрын

Do Biafra.. btw. I'm yoruba. But in support of self determination

@mesabzu9922 2 жыл бұрын

It’d be interesting to hear about the disputed borders & the independence movement of Abkhazia in Georgia.

@johnnotrealname8168 2 жыл бұрын

Abkhazia and South-Ossetia go hand in hand.

@5koKirilov 3 жыл бұрын

Please make a video on the Bulgaria - North Macedonia dispute and their veto for the beginning of the discussions with the EU.

@gaiusjuliuscaesar8450 3 жыл бұрын

It's worth pointing out that out of the 14 articles reviewed, only 4 were fully suppressed, the rest being subject to minor modifications. And, although the Sentence's preamble was pretty inflammatory, the highlight of the court's decision was the modification of Art. 218, which would have allowed the catalan parliament to regulate how much the region contributes to the state budget.

@perrymanso6841 2 жыл бұрын

The REAL problem is a same papers were presented for the comunnity of Andalucia and they had 0 modifications, fully accepted, Catalan outrage is quite plausible...

@_extrathicc 2 жыл бұрын

@@perrymanso6841 Andalucia never did the same. Not all reforms of an Statute of Autonomy are the same. The same way a contrat that makes you work for less than minimun wage is illegal but barely over it, isn't.

@perrymanso6841 2 жыл бұрын

@@_extrathicc The points shattered to pieces in the Catalan Statute, were copied and approved in the Andalusian one. You can search for It.

@hullie7529 9 ай бұрын

@@perrymanso6841That's one of the talking points of the nationalists but it's easily disproven if you take the time to research whether it's true or not.

@thomholmes4904 3 жыл бұрын

It would be really interesting to have a video talking about Tibetan independence

@littledovecitydust 3 жыл бұрын

I can tell you Tibet chose to join the Yuan dynasty by choice, and thus its independence is moot.

@cestakou357 3 жыл бұрын

I suggest the channel "Daniel Dumbrill" to you. Tibetan culture is thriving and life quality is higher than ever in China. I doubt you know anything about the serfdom and the cult under the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama himself is a position established by the Chinese Emperor. May I also remind you of the Nepali invasion of Tibet, where Chinese soldiers repelled the attack. The exile government in India is made up of descendants of former slaveholders, who are mad commoners live better lives in China than they do now. They like to distort historical facts. If you don't believe the Chinese, consult Nepali sources. Tibet has been part of China longer than the existence of most countries. For an independence movement, you actually need people onsite wanting that and not some outsiders who have no connection to their ancestral place.

@bonnie115 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the comments for any such video would just be swamped with paid shills of the CCP.

@littledovecitydust 3 жыл бұрын

@@bonnie115 unfortunately your brainwashing has made you unable to distinguish truth and fiction. So a phantom troll army must be created to fill your cognitive void.

@Kokolo-ze2cp 3 жыл бұрын

I just knew a ccp member would automatically comment on this, stfu no one cares about your opinion

@The_Paradox__ 2 жыл бұрын

I found this to be very balanced. Thank you.

@cassiopea342 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to have a bird's eye view of all disputed territories across the globe.

@paujorba3318 3 жыл бұрын

Catalan here. The topic is definitely hard to tackle in a 10 min video. Probably not intentionally, but some of the simplifications made seem inspired from a ERC pamflet. Separatists don't have a clear majority in popular support, but due to the election law get always the control of the government. Shouting referendum and democracy doesn't make them more democratic, the laws they passed before the October referendum are against the most basic democratic principles. Independence is a very legit political goal, but not by any means. A referendum with a 50℅ cut is clearly not a way to solve this issue (it might be the last resort for a war torn country, but catalan society is still strongly embedded in Spain). Looking at Scotland, it worked for a few years... Once a yes is passed, will we held referendums for reunification? All it does is split catalan society along national axis. The former government coalition had anticapitalist with free market lovers "working" together, which is why we went to elections. And the same coalition seems to build as only alternative after the veto of erc to psc. During these times ig crisis, see a government more occupied for infighting between independentist factions and undermining central government did not bring joy, probably also why many people didn't go to vote. We're back at the start, they talk about a new unilateral referendum, groundhog day

@alexderamon2060 3 жыл бұрын

Last elections separatists got more than 50% of popular vote

@MrDrbld 3 жыл бұрын

Good points Pau. Do not compare Scotland with Catalonia. Scotland would be asking to join the EU. Catalonia would be leaving. And Spain would not consent to an Independent Scotland whilst it can fastidiar with its EU vote.

@paujorba3318 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDrbld good point as well. I just used the example of Scotland to show that a referendum is not the ultimate solution as it is tirelessly repeated by catalan separatists. Although many similarities can be drawn, Scotland and Catalonia are different in many ways. On that note catalans want independence but would see leaving the EU as a last resort to acquire independence and would like to join back in despite the obvious opposition of Spain. And the Spanish state fearing an independent Scotland, or any independence movement within the EU is... Understandable at best. This is all "molt complicat"

@MrDrbld 3 жыл бұрын

Es veritat. However, one must prioritise what is achievable in the current circumstances. Making society ungovernable in pandemic is no help. All economies have been savaged by the Coronavirus as if by some kind of war. Catalan voters seem split still, so impasse, politically. Independance now? Makes sense if Catalonia would be better off as a consequence, but that does not look to be the case for next few years. BTW, the Scottish cause has just been set back by, well, corruption and political infighting. So looks like Spanish cohesion is the better situation short term because Catalans will get the benefits of a stronger state aid system backed by the EU.

@paujorba3318 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDrbld I can't agree more. Although we are pretty good at corruption and political infighting, both in Madrid and Barcelona

@pescortell 3 жыл бұрын

Cyprus please. I´m Spanish and I think this video summarised this complex subject quite objectively.

@Germanicnoble 3 жыл бұрын

One that I learned about at uni is Boganville seeking independence from Papua New Guinea.

@mateosanfitz9625 3 жыл бұрын

That is so interesting though they should cover it.

@westfailia 3 жыл бұрын

would love to see disputed regions - cyprus and western sahara would be good to see

@ties12345678910 3 жыл бұрын

A great video altogether! However, when showing the results of the 2017 referendum it might be interesting to note that most people against independence did not vote due to the unconstitutionality of the matter. This is a more accurate reflection of the division of the Catalonian people on this topic.

@chris7263 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I remember reading in the NY Times about that... man, 2017 feels like 20 years ago now 😓 But the voter turnout was low enough that the seemingly high percentage for independence wasn't reliable. Do you remember what the turnout was? I'm pretty sure it was less than 50%

@joelimbergamo639 3 жыл бұрын

@@chris7263 yes, but obviously when you fear getting injured by the police if you vote, a lot of people decided that it wasn't worth it. in my family alone there where 4 people 60+ years old who decided they were too afraid to vote. Democracy in it's purest style, and the the same people that send the police claim that turnout was low... Yes, that referendum can't be taken to claim independence but it's clear a referendum is necessary.

@ismaelmontenegro3263 3 жыл бұрын

There were only a campaign in favour of independence. This was not a referendum, was a 😂 silly proclamation of independence. The majority of people don't go to vote because they were against independence. This referendum was unconstitutional and illegal.

@donaldthegreat5809 3 жыл бұрын

"scotish way of independence" *brave heart intensifies*

@JKLoans 3 жыл бұрын

You have to discuss Quebec if you're doing such a series.

@eternalflameingentertainme945 3 жыл бұрын

Can u do a update on the Bougainville independence referendum

@TrabberShir 3 жыл бұрын

with this type of movement "fighting" is entirely the wrong word.

@arjan5071 3 жыл бұрын

The indepedence on my opinion is a bad decision for them since they are already a part of EU. Even if they gained independence they would most likely have to apply to join the EU and spain would veto their admission. It just isn’t worth it.

@MichaelDavis-mk4me 3 жыл бұрын

Even if they Spain refused them joining the EU, they can sign unilateral treaties, like any basically every country in the world. Plus, they are the richest province in Spain, if they leave, they won't be dragged down by the rest of Spain anymore.

@arjan5071 3 жыл бұрын

Micheal Davis Spain can veto treaties with the eu which is catalonia‘s biggest partner, therefore it would have a bad economic effect. It can also pressure other countries to not sign bilateral treaties with catalonia, like china does with other nations in the case of taiwan.

@pekojounin 3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelDavis-mk4me Actually, when they suggested independence 1500 companies left Catalonia. And it was not a real independence declaration. Soooo... no.

@oscargrove2107 3 жыл бұрын

@@pekojounin Coward bourgeoise will always flock to the highest bidder. Here in Catalunya we call them botiflers 😂

@mimovil8730 3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelDavis-mk4me Catalonia is not the richest region of Spain by any metric.

@ryandebruin9221 3 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video about the upcoming Dutch elections?

@jamesquaine6264 3 жыл бұрын

You should do Northern Ireland...although that might require a full documentary tbh

@claudiosolomon1324 3 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video about shengen and the romania/ bulgaria/ croatia situation?

@vilena5308 3 жыл бұрын

What situation is that?

@hendrikdependrik1891 3 жыл бұрын

@@vilena5308 The Netherlands (with different allies each time) blocking them full access to the Schengen zone.

@vilena5308 3 жыл бұрын

@@hendrikdependrik1891 Thanks, now I'm interested as well.

@Kokolo-ze2cp 3 жыл бұрын

Croatia will join really soon, the other two hmm it's not gonna be that easy

@claudiosolomon1324 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, EU always tells stuff like that. They also said that they would love Romania to join, but I don't see anybody doing anything for that, exept romanians