Cate Blanchett Discusses the Mind-Bending Secrets of Tár

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Жыл бұрын

Cate Blanchett is not an actor who skims a screenplay when she’s considering it. “I read scripts very, very slowly,” she says, “but this one I read incredibly quickly. I knew from the get-go that it was about really big things - metaphysical, existential things that I was interested in - so I read it very quickly and said yes immediately.” She turns to Todd Field, the writer-director of the film in question, “Tár,” and says, “And you crashed your car.”
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@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын

Cate Blanchett is a legend

@REDBIRD.CHANNEL Жыл бұрын

Right 👍🏻

@onelife959 Жыл бұрын

Ohh yes

@onelife959 Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU

@Touchez Жыл бұрын

Great actress but she ought to stop the speeches and the arm waving.

@alba4203 Жыл бұрын

Per carità anche no

@bobbybubby7977 Жыл бұрын

I saw this film 2 days ago and can’t stop thinking about it. A haunting, genre-less, puzzle piece of a film. One of the best films I have seen in a long time. And Blanchett is in top form. Todd Field has made 3 of the best films of the 21st century.

@MonalisaCerrutti Жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more!

@neilmcintosh5150 Жыл бұрын

Personally I think Cate's character was innocent.

@RoseJetExhaust Жыл бұрын

@@neilmcintosh5150 I concur, but more precisely I thought in her perception, Linda Tarr was innocent. Other characters in the movie did not think so.

@subversivelysurreal3645 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone else feel that they MUST see it a second time, without that fact subtracting from the film one iota…? There’s so much there there, and there IS everywhere in this film.

@subversivelysurreal3645 Жыл бұрын

@@neilmcintosh5150 i don’t know what innocent is, but a child so young that it doesn’t understand the adults around him or her. Utilizing her partner’s medication, while that partner is experiencing heart symptoms and/or problems is *many things but i would not include innocent* amongst them.

@loeuvrededieu Жыл бұрын

Yes I found the detail of her name so fascinating, because the very first thing that caught my attention when I saw the trailer months ago was that that main character's name seemed like it had been deliberately chosen (by the character herself, as an affectation), and it truly encapsulates what Lydia, Linda, is so worried and obsessed about, control over her own image, one that is so delicately crafted that it seems glass- or porcelain-like. Tár is a simple, three letter name that appears sleek and elegant, but somewhat inaccessible, foreign and sophisticated, everything Linda wanted to be.

@monicaalexandru9638 Жыл бұрын

Also, weren't criminals or people who broke the law, or were cast out from society for some reason, usually something that was validly or invalidly more often than not, sometimes tarred and feathered?

@Le0Witch Жыл бұрын

100% this

@UyenLe-9119 Жыл бұрын

Also an anagram for both rat and art

@monicaalexandru9638 Жыл бұрын

@@UyenLe-9119 Nice one. So, tar is an art rat.🧐

@HiveMind629 Жыл бұрын

Also read back words it’s RAT so there’s that she’s so obsessed with the self image that it’s oblivious that the name she choose describes her as a person

@maryvallettakeith6146 Жыл бұрын

Martin Scorsese said it best (from Variety): “For so long now, so many of us see films that pretty much let us know where they’re going,” Scorsese said. “I mean, they take us by the hand and, even if it’s disturbing at times, sort of comfort us along the way that it will be all okay by the end. Now this is insidious, as one can get lulled into this and ultimately get used to it, leading those of us who’ve experienced cinema in the past - as much more than that- to become despairing of the future of the art form, especially for younger generations. But that’s on dark days. Scorsese continued, “The clouds lifted when I experienced Todd’s film, ‘Tár.’ What you’ve done, Todd -- is that the very fabric of the movie you created doesn’t allow this. All the aspects of cinema and the film that you’ve used, attest to this. The shift in locations for example, the shift in locations alone do what cinema does best, which is to reduce space and time to what they are, which is nothing.”

@ivdn7373 Жыл бұрын

This woman really was born as an ‘actor’. She is a legend. ❤️‍🔥👑

@davidkyle5374 Жыл бұрын

Tar is the kind of movie that’s just artistic and phenomenal all at once

@OctoberOhio Жыл бұрын

Seems like a strange movie. You watch it to watch Cate. Not for the story. I'm in when it comes to my library for free. Love Cate!

@RiordanLadyGaga Жыл бұрын

@@OctoberOhio library for free?? Huh? Also, no, I didn't watch it just to see her. The story is very nuanced. I love the power conductors have in an orchestra, and seeing how her abuse of power in the industry pans out seems exciting and very relevant topics for 2023.

@PeterFitzgerald Жыл бұрын

Blanchett and Field have created a film for the ages. Let's hope they both get their due come Oscar time.

@neilmcintosh5150 Жыл бұрын

And they both worked on a film together 24 years ago. Eyes Wide Shut.

@neilmcintosh5150 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Todd Field played Nick Nightingale (the piano player) in Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut. And Cate Blanchett played the masked woman's voice in Eyes Wide Shut.

@MonalisaCerrutti Жыл бұрын

I have already known this fact about Todd, but I couldn't have imagined about Cate's voice if you hadn't written it in the comments. Thanks a bunch!

@neilmcintosh5150 Жыл бұрын

@@MonalisaCerrutti Yeah it's amazing if you go back and listen to the voice of the masked woman escorting Cruise around you can instantly tell it's Cate!

@ricodelavega4511 Жыл бұрын

so they took part in that orgy?

@Woodsaras Жыл бұрын

Wow! Nice!!!

@anne-louiseluccarini4530 Жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks - that is a fun fact.

@marsj830 Жыл бұрын

Truly exceptional performance from Cate. She never ceases to blow me away

@sterlingnyx6636 Жыл бұрын

Best film I’ve seen in AT LEAST a decade!!! You can feel the detail in in frame, something in this picture crawls into your bones…

@diadlv Жыл бұрын

I love their collaboration. You can tell they have a lot of respect and admiration for each other which allowed them to create one of the best films of the year.

@fauxsorcier Жыл бұрын

I really want Michelle Yeoh to win this year's Oscar, but this performance was so insane... I wish they held Tár for next season, I want they both to win 😭

@allabouteve2390 Жыл бұрын

they could SHARE! It has happened before!

@fauxsorcier Жыл бұрын

@@allabouteve2390 that would be so sick, I hope we get that lucky 😲

@darkqueen12 Жыл бұрын

Well honestly, Tár is magnificient but the layers we’ve seen from Michelle in Everything Everywhere all at once are just indescribable! Michelle should win it and I am a HUGE can of Cate.

@rics1883 Жыл бұрын

@@darkqueen12 IDK about layers. Yeoh's portrayal wasn't nuanced and dense as Blanchett's Lydia Tar. Blanchett played it pitch perfectly, her theatrical chops really show up here. That's why Cate's performance has been singled out every time TAR is mentioned whereas EEAA is more of an ensemble endeavour. Cate should have won.

@pist1264 Жыл бұрын

technique wise cate is definitely better since michelle was always more of an action star rather than an actress

@vokkm9bile548 Жыл бұрын

Cate Blanchett is the most talented versatile actresses of our time!

@matthewcloranmusic7745 Жыл бұрын

I have to watch this movie again. There's so much. And Cate Blanchett is, once again, sublime.

@rhythmoriented Жыл бұрын

Best overall film of 2022, featuring the best performance. Just keeping it real. Thanks for the gift you’ve given us this year!

@melinam6855 Жыл бұрын

Cate did an awesome work in Tar, she is such a great actress, icon

@rics1883 Жыл бұрын

Greatest living actress, hands down.

@anne-louiseluccarini4530 Жыл бұрын

Yes. Moved through into the stratosphere.

@artlesscalamity348 Жыл бұрын

Everything Everywhere is a wonderful and spectacular movie and Michelle Yeoh was awesome, but Blanchett should have gotten the Best Actress Oscar. What she put into this role and what she brought out of those scenes is on a completely different level.

@sharonalbanese8084 5 ай бұрын

True. I think Yeoh got it because Blanchett had already won previously, and Yeoh is astounding.

@elias6218 Жыл бұрын

Just watched this movie yesterday twice. What a masterpiece.

@pamelaguarda9313 Жыл бұрын

Cate Blanchett is such a terrific actress. I hope that she win the oscar

@allabouteve2390 Жыл бұрын

NO MATTER THE AWARDS NO MATTER THE RESULTS THIS FILM AND THIS PERFORMANCE MARKS AN ENTIRE ERA AND INDUSTRY FOR THE AGES... THANKS FOR THIS MARK, THANKS FOR THE DIALOGUE YOU OPEN WITH OUR PERSONAL AND COLLECTIVE CLIFFS AND CANYONS GUYS!

@anamusic2728 Жыл бұрын

Tar is a best movie that I’ve seen since decade ago. You don’t even feel there’s a camera in the most of the movie.. it just warm my hear to see cinema in our strange time.

@johnlthang5841 9 ай бұрын

Cate Blanche is just phenomenal!!! Her acting was huntingly good and she definitely sold me as Lydia.

@isabellajane8212 Жыл бұрын

You can feel in the way they talk and in their dynamics the respect for each other and the great mutual feeling of working with another gifted person.

@sailorgalaxia963 Жыл бұрын

Spectacular, never the same, totally gay, deserves best actress academy award

@thatotherkid9210 Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@masageeva Жыл бұрын

She deserved that f*cking Oscar. She. For this work.

@Lu_82 Жыл бұрын

Cate for the win 🏆

@dlgal8396 Жыл бұрын

Tár in Hungarian as a verb means to throw open, open wide or as a noun means magazine, collection or storage. :) Cheers to apostrophes Iceland! :)

@georgerudinsky489 8 ай бұрын

Lady Blanchett, this phenomenal labyrinthine role you performed to absolute perfection. This movie is revealing complexity of music within our variegated lives.

@rodrigofurtado5542 Жыл бұрын

Give her the Oscar already. Phenomenal. And I´ve loved Michelle Yeoh interpretation

@lavitalux Жыл бұрын

Cate is so intelligent. She is different. She can be a director if she wants. Good luck on Oscar ❤ You are so inspiring in being yourself ❤

@andrewlampe6116 Жыл бұрын

She has been a director on stage

@lavitalux Жыл бұрын

@@andrewlampe6116 of Tar?

@anne-louiseluccarini4530 Жыл бұрын

Woody Allen wasn't wrong; When asked what it was like to work with her, he said, "You just get out of her way!"

@TheFilmFanEsco Жыл бұрын

A phenomenal performance!

@daniellespinks-earl1311 8 ай бұрын

unforgettable masterpiece!

@paulaelizabeth_ShamanStar 10 ай бұрын

I loved this film so much that I downloaded the screenplay. It is as wonderful to read as it is to watch. Just brilliant on so many levels.

@cosmicklutz1675 Жыл бұрын

The weird thing about Tar is that I was constantly seeing Laura Linney in Cate Blanchett’s face and I bet she could have fit this role really well but Cate absolutely mastered it

@universalsoldier2293 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Another great actress, but I wonder if Linney would have been able to pull off the madness part of it.

@cosmicklutz1675 Жыл бұрын

@@universalsoldier2293 judging off her performance in ozark, absolutely. My concern was if she could make the use of multiple languages feel natural the way Cate did

@r.w.183 Жыл бұрын

I have envisioned Isabelle Huppert. I was watching brilliant Cate Blanchett and thinking "How Huppert would play this?"

@derg6222 Жыл бұрын

@@cosmicklutz1675 blanchetts German didn't sound natural. amazing performance though.

@wynetteweaver Жыл бұрын

It was the script. Brilliant Captured the twisted inhumanity and cruelty of Tar to her devoted friends to get what she wanted.Cate became Tar. Brilliant!

@Alun49 Жыл бұрын

A superb film. It has left me blown away. Cate Blanchett is phenomenal. Todd Field is a great writer and director. I will have to rewatch it, inevitably. Why it did not win an Oscar beats me.

@Tickerage 10 ай бұрын

I think that with this movie, the baton has been passed for the singular best actress on the planet from Meryl Streep to Cate Blanchett.

@vokkm9bile548 Жыл бұрын

Such a great collaboration 👏

@universalsoldier2293 Жыл бұрын

I had to watch the movie a few times to fully appreciate, but the "imposter" part of her character was definitely the standout for me. But the most interesting aspect of this interview wasn't the always glorious Cate Blanchett, but the down-to-earth quality of the brilliant Todd Field. A guy who can write a fully pretentious screen play (and direct) without having a bone of pretentiousness in his body. How refreshing.

@catherineEB6 Жыл бұрын

I saw this flim yesterday. I can't stop thinking about Cate blanchett. She is a legend!

@Anna-vz5jl Жыл бұрын

Brilliant movie Cate was superb she should have won an Oscar ughhh what a great movie 🎹🎥

@ricodelavega4511 Жыл бұрын

TF is an artistic genius

@dixitabasava1320 Жыл бұрын

could listen to cate and todd talk about lydia forever- i still have a hard time believing she's not real. so full of artifice, yet authentically so, if that makes any sense

@Amy-ps6hf Жыл бұрын

Cate Blanchett was phenomenal!

@Secular_Monk 6 ай бұрын

What a magnificent screenplay. Masterful.

@nemohalperin Жыл бұрын

Such a uniquely sharp clever story that resonates with waves of meaning. It truly is disorientating in a most jarring and eerie way.

@SYsChocaMocho Жыл бұрын

I love you Cate, with my whole heart💗

@lynnturman8157 Жыл бұрын

One of the amazing things about this movie was that the principal characters in the movie who were in the orchestra (namely Tar's wife & the young cellist) were actually playing their instruments. Did they find actors who were also classically trained musicians or musicians who could also act?

@Bexrt Жыл бұрын

The cellist is a cellist, not an actress - Sophie Kauer. The first violin is german actress and I guess she can play violin to some extent. But also her vibrato looked little too much and her right hand seemed weirdly stiff with the bow and quite a weird hold. Whereas the cellist was very clearly professional and playing everything. Great movie, just love it

@user-us5pv8zw3z 6 ай бұрын

I first saw Cate in the movie Elizabeth in 1999 . I knew right then and there that she would become one of the best actors in the history of acting. Tar was an excellent depiction of the loss of power. I did think that the movie ran a bit long, but on a whole Cate’s performance was Oscar worthy. She is phenomenal in everything she does.

@guidoserrano2629 Жыл бұрын

Tár got a lot of inspiration from Citizen Kane. I loved it.

@allabouteve2390 Жыл бұрын

Citizen Cane of the 21st century... in so many levels

@meaningoftheunicorn Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Barry Lyndon too

@mariaelenaahumada5940 Жыл бұрын

CATE ES UNA ACTRIZ INSUPERABLE NO HAY NADIE EN LA ACTUALIDAD POR SOBRE ELLA..ADEMAS CADA DIA MAS BELLA....

@scarlettmon1707 Жыл бұрын

Three-time Oscar winner to be

@Marc-13 Жыл бұрын

I don't think so. Michelle Yeoh will win and I hope for Michelle Williams

@jinnimoo Жыл бұрын

@@Marc-13 Everyone knows its a race between Yeow and Blanchett. Williams hasn't won a single award this season

@Marc-13 Жыл бұрын

@@jinnimoo of course! I only said I wish Williams would win, not that she will🙄

@jinnimoo Жыл бұрын

@@Marc-13 maybe re-read your actual comment then mate

@Marc-13 Жыл бұрын

@@jinnimoo my comment was wrong, I correct it

@gianbattistalasagna7944 Жыл бұрын

Tra Cate Blanchett e Todd Field c'è un 'alchimia incredibile, dalla loro collaborazione è scaturito un film/capolavoro. Tutti bravissimi. 👏👏👏👏👏

@auntvesuvi3872 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Todd! Thanks, Cate! Thanks, Variety! 🎬 #Variety #ToddField #CateBlanchett #Tár

@stelabesenyei-merger1301 Жыл бұрын

Where are the Hungarians pointing out that Tár makes sense in Hungarian as well? ;-) She's opening her arms in the poster of the film. And tár in Hungarian means "opening wide" a door, arms, windows. I'm pretty sure many of us thought that there might be some Hungarian connection in this film, haha.

@user-dw3wo2qp5y 2 ай бұрын

Mann, diese Frau/Schauspielerin ist einfach die Beste! Intelligent, erotisch und sympathisch. Hoffentlich bleibt sie uns mit ihrer Liebe zu diesem Beruf noch lange erhalten!

@DavidMendoza-pi3wz Жыл бұрын

Gosh she’s amazing

@melodyal3357 Жыл бұрын

This movie should have won Oscar, lets not even talk about Cate Blanchett being CRIMINALLY ROBBED for not winning the leading role. She was absolutelly mindblowing in this film, it's incredibly incredibly difficult role yet Cate mastered it so realistically and beautifully that you believe her to be Tar in every scene, with every gesture, every look, every move. Just surreal, really. It's beyong SHOCKING that Academy didn't awarded her, instead they awarded Michelle for Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. I watched that film too and Michelle can't level up Cate Blanchett's performance, she can't come not even close to maestro talent Cate is and the performance she gave. She rather seems like a school student compared to Cate. I am still in shock, I kinda lost respect for Oscar this year; it seemed really more about politics than about awarding the best talent/best performance.

@kifacorea Жыл бұрын

I disagree. Michelle yeoh's performance was oscar worthy. Tar was good. But cold and antiseptic.

@rics1883 11 ай бұрын

Agree. Cate’s performance was at master level only few like Daniel day Lewis can pull off. Academy is a joke, they lost credibility this year for going as populist award show. Peoples choice 2.0. Blanchett’s performance will be studied in film schools

@tanjat1707 4 ай бұрын

Agree. Cate is fantastic in every role she played but with Tar she went above, into some other dimension. I look at Tar as a crown of her acting capabilities and her career. Oscar has been a political award for very long time but I never expected they would play that political game when CB is competing in a leading role. To award seriously mediocre actress like MY when you have CB in the same category is mind blowing and ridiculous.

@rexpam Жыл бұрын

Cate deserves the Oscar this year! I haven't seen "Carol" though.

@deborahcoveney8846 Жыл бұрын

She is the best actress in the world now sublime!!

@kifacorea Жыл бұрын

Todd field was memorable in RUBY IN PARADISE

@jromb0Productions Жыл бұрын

Her performance in Tár was so good! If not for EEAAO, she definitely would have won for best actress

@MrBuddybones Жыл бұрын

Susan Sontag! Makes sense.

@timmyman1997 Жыл бұрын

Tar just came to NZ cinemas, and i desperately want michelle yeoh to win her oscar, but there is no world where this isnt my favourite movie this year

@alexanderzhukov3773 Жыл бұрын

Cate is gonna win this year.

@hectormendoza9640 Жыл бұрын

These two are such intellectuals. The Oscars went with the mundane

@rics1883 Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. It was slap in the face to snub this movie especially Blanchett. My god her acting in TAR, she operated in complete different strata

@allabouteve2390 Жыл бұрын

What really bothers me is that since yesterday when Blanchett became the first actress ever achieving the TRIFECTA as a lead she receives an amount of HATE from SOME of M. Yeoh fans… It is NOT obviously M. Yeoh’s fault, she is AMAZING. But then these people react like the white world invented Blanchett this year to stop Michelle. When in fact she has an INCREDIBLE career all these decades, and with a lot of snubs in fact… And even more they claim that people who were amazed by Cate’s performance are racists… I am not white, how on earth can I be racist? And how ARROGANT they are to have the audacity to accuse of such a thing people just because they have a different opinion? Please RESPECT both ladies and do not ridicule yourselves and demonize your fellow film lovers.

@drumbum3.142 Жыл бұрын

Take This As an Insult or a Compliment. (Or Both.). - if one is looking for a Two Hour Film All About Dysfunction and Living with One's Demons and/or Insecurities (Never Mind Conquering and/or overcoming them); this might be the Best Film of the year. .. as it is, there are a small handful that are Better.

@Eyesayah Жыл бұрын

Such as?

@drumbum3.142 Жыл бұрын

@@Eyesayah Such as JoyRide. Such as Good Luck to You Leo Grande. Such as The Batman. Such as 3,000 Years of Longing. Such as Empire of Light. .. (And) such as one other made for ntflx flick from the same year as this misguided one that I cant remember the name of at present. (Not Blonde.). . ... .. Any, and/or All of These Aforementioned Titles can Definitely be Discussed and Dissected Further and Farther if Applicable. 🙏.

@Eyesayah Жыл бұрын

@@drumbum3.142 thank you for that.

@drumbum3.142 Жыл бұрын

@@Eyesayah Yeah. Certainly,. Absolutely. . ... If Ever I can remember the name of that netflix flick/film I'll send it over.. ... if You would like. .

@drumbum3.142 Жыл бұрын

@@Eyesayah Its Different from that enigmatic Netflix film I'm tryin to remember but another that is VERY Good and Impressive (and Lovely) is called Living.

@mimimayhem Ай бұрын

To call Cate a “decent performer” at 0:50 is the greatest understatement I’ve ever heard.

@gordiannot4033 Жыл бұрын

Yes dear Cate ,we are.

@VILJL Жыл бұрын

At the 95th Academy Awards (2023), Tár received six nominations including Best Picture, Best Director and Best Original Screenplay for Field, and Best Actress for Blanchett.

@michalalinn Жыл бұрын

"Stellaaaa!" IM DEAD 😂😂😂

@Chinaski1 Жыл бұрын

You guys could have put Todd Field's name in the title

@nickamandes4980 Жыл бұрын

Seriously!!!

@JamieMcgee518 Жыл бұрын

Tar appears to be running from something bad that happened in South America . An indigenous man appears with powerful Orchestra Players who gossip in her nightmares. The symbol that haunts her on the first pages of a mysterious book gifted to her . Her child creates the symbol in her play room. The symbol appears with her running Metronome in the middle of the night. Spooky ! 😳

@BryceZed 11 ай бұрын

Look up María Sabina, her story is so depressing and comes to mind on a possible backstory. (Not saying it “is” but rather is a connection emblematic of colonization which co-opts other cultures for financial exploit). Tár uses the music of another culture (Shipibo-Conibo) to ‘elevate’ the biography she incessantly edits & curates despite presenting a facade of cool detached indifference to the public. It is my guess that the face of the Shipibo-Conibo individual may have been her mentor that she left a burnt bridge with (reasons unknown)-but what matters is that the figure helps thread the pattern of connection to the use of the symbol pattern. My theory is that Tár is similarly haunted by her experiences with people she ostensibly used to prop up her career (or gratify her dark desires). She knows she’s done wrong (see her vomiting), and is haunted by those who truly “see” her in her darker malevolent acts. Tár wanted to control time (a sort of phobia/neurosis with her cleanliness & sensitivity to intrusive sounds), and so the use of the pattern that repeats on the book, metronome, clay, face, is like the growth of rot which she cannot clean herself of because it is part of her which she desperately doesn’t want to have publicly known. But that’s the thing, destiny is the path you take to avoid it.

@SP-qi8ur 10 ай бұрын

What do u think happened

@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын

TofS very good, but this is better ... nice work, ty

@kifacorea Жыл бұрын

I was a fan of his in ruby in paradise

@CateFan 7 ай бұрын

Cateeeeee💜

@stevegriffith2486 Жыл бұрын

Interesting they say Susan Sontag was an influence for the character… I saw a lot of Judy Davis as well.

@MadKingOfMadaya 2 ай бұрын

*_Indeed Tár means tear in Icelandic but in Kurdish Tár means bitter_*

@PedroG20 9 ай бұрын

I just had the chance to watch this movie. It was blatantly robbed at the Oscars. Todd Field and Cate Blanchett were robbed.

@andymath89 Жыл бұрын

She's the only right answer for the Best Actress Oscar this year.

@fritzfromm5601 Жыл бұрын

For everyone interested her gorgeous dress is by Berlin label William Fan

@maryvallettakeith6146 Жыл бұрын

It's interesting that minorities want to be considered on the same playing field as non-minorities, yet still want to be given preference BECAUSE of their minority. You can't have it both ways. The award should be based on the performance, not color of skin or background.

@kenyawarner924 5 ай бұрын

I'd do anything for a full life of lydia tar novel omg

@TheGlazedBook Жыл бұрын

Todd field really took note when working on eyes wide shut.

@martincotadoteho3754 Жыл бұрын

Rather Black swan, than eyes wide shut, i would say.

@Inferno-Dante 4 ай бұрын

Can’t believe that the only award Tár didn’t win was an Oscar, complete bs. Best art form and its interpretation should win. Always. And not because someone is”due” for an award.