Hallelujah! God bless you and thanks for sharing your testimony! Ps. 119:105

Lying is a sin.

It was the CC that gave you the Bible you use to try to undermine the faith. It's shooting yourself in the foot. You walked away from Christ's true church. The Eucharist The devotions . The communion of saints The encounter of Christ daily at Mass. And for what ? A 21st century 'unbiblical , bible, 'church Maybe God will speak to you in your dreams to show you the height you have fallen from and shepherd back into his one fold. Or maybe he won't.

@@xtraordinairartist9469 It was God who gave us the inspired Word, and the early Church recognised its inspiration. The pop-apologists you subscribe to mislead.

@@z_nytrom99 wow! It's almost as if you believe the bible fell out if the sky with God's signature on it. Sorry, your comment is a swing and a miss. God and human authors wrote the OT and NT using the writer's intellect, social norms of expression and culture and language. All the writer's of the NT were Catholic Priests or Bishops. You should read church history. You'd do well to understand the church you off candidly dismiss.

Sorry, I posted prematurely. I should have known that Mike would touch on this point.

Mary is the Mother of the Groom; however, in marriage bride and groom become ONE as God designed it in Genesis 2.@@erikgriffith8857

@@Michael-nb4ng Lets twist God's word to support your own thinking Mike. Try reading Ephesians 5:22-33 where it states we are the body of Christ Erik is right. Further the mother of the Groom is not in the marriage. "‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh"

Read on to Ephesians 5: 23-27, where we find Jesus making His Church Holy by ' the washing of water through the Word.'@@stever4181

Correct. Mary’s spouse is the Holy Spirit :)

Amen! That's right.

END OFF !! NO CLEARER THAN THAT

We catholics dont believe the bible. We hate the bible.

@Delta O'Keefe You said: Saying God's word isn't enough is saying God isn't enough for our salvation, our trust, our devotion, our faith, etc., when CHRIST is OUR EVERY THING. Me: If God's word is enough and you don't need the church then tell me which books of the New Testament are said to be inspired by the Bible? You: I don't follow all Protestant beliefs, because I'm not a Protestant, I'm a Christian! Me: If you believe in Sola Scripture (as it appears that you do) and/or Sola Fide then you have Protestant roots even if you try to disown them.

@Delta O'Keefe My point was that you need more than the bible since you don't have a bible without someone stating that various book are inspired. The bible does not do that so maybe you need the church and scripture together. Without the church there is no bible.

Sharon Ulstad and you have to be so careful. the Bible tells you who to watch out for, but boy some people can be quite tricky and slippery. but with the Bible you can see the real from the counterfeit quickly lately it saddens me to see how perverse the world makes God out to be these days

There is no point in believing in the Bible unless one believes in the Catholic Church, because it was the Catholic Church that put the Bible together in the first place, at the Council of Rome in 382 a.d.

@FaithHopeGrace No,the "Roman" name was added by Protestants. It was always the Catholic Church. At it arrived at Pentecost.

@FaithHopeGrace ...........honey, the only person here acting like a pagan little troll, is YOURSELF.....kinda don't see yourself in that light, do ya ? so, FHG, howya doin ? long time no see.......but I see you STILL haven't quite figured out the whole concept of HEROIC VIRTUE......that's what Saints are made of, and you seem to have forgotten that THAT is the path you're supposed to be on.......so just leave myself, and George Penton and all the other Catholics being highly offended here by all you protestants, that are STILL protesting.....ALONE.......just leave us ALONE......your incessant error is tiring, and beyond obnoxious.....and Winger, if you're reading this, this INCLUDES YOU.......if we assaulted YOU people the way YOU morons come after US, you'd ALL be in the looney bin.......btw, "THE WARNING" is imminent......I've mentioned it to you frequently, FHG, so you might want to KZfaq Christine Watkins and her book of the same name, and learn a little about what's coming.....because if we, who KNOW of its coming are failing to prepare, oh you of little knowledge, will fail miserably, and be QUITE dismayed at its arrival......rumor has it, that it might even occur this month, October, 2020........heads up !!! nice to see ya, FHG......

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh .....hi George, I see you've been sparring with FHG while I've been gone......so, don't know how long you've been on here, but little miss FHG is a piece of work, right along with all the other protestants running around on Winger's channel......so, really, my only real encouragement to you, is to pray for them to come to the Truth.......but trust me, in the meantime, the annoyance they'll cause with all their ERROR can be truly, well, ANNOYING......lolololol.......it is what it is.......but are you aware of "THE WARNING", George ? it may very well be imminent from what I've been hearing from different visionaries who Jesus and Our Lady speak to......much is coming down the pike, and all these little protestants, most all of them aren't going to be prepared for what's coming........so, pray and forgive, and get to confession for the graces needed if you are experiencing a hard time with their nonsense.....FHG is particularly annoying....(aren't you, dear ?)....... Christine Watkins wrote a book by the same name, "THE WARNING".....there's a KZfaq channel that she's on, expounding on what it's going to be....and all you little protestants, "Ana Werner", a prophet frequently on Sid Roth's channel, had a vision, or a dream, about a year ago, where she saw millions of people rushing to repent.......TAKE HEED.........

Catholics do read the bible. Jesus started the Catholic church. You left it. There is no salvation outside the Catholic church. Sounds like you dont want salvation.

@@user-de4jk8vj4c You quote scripture. But who told you that scripture was inspired? The Catholic church did in 392ad. There is no salvation outside the Catholic church...with a few exceptions.

@@user-de4jk8vj4c The Catholic church is not a denomination. The Catholic church is the church that Jesus started. Denominations are reserved for Protestants that broke away from the Catholic church. Jesus started Catholic church. Protestant churches started by man. Catholics read the Gospel. You speak of the Gospel in the bible. Who told you the bible was inspired? Catholic church did in 392ad.

@@user-de4jk8vj4c The Catholic Church is a kingdom, as Jesus established it and gave authority to it, not your own personal interpretation i.e. false sola scriptura doctrine

@@johnyang1420 there is salvation outside the catholic church. It is the salvation given by Jesus Christ. That is given to who ever believes in Him (like that woman that Jesus compared to a little dog). Because she believed in Him, she got what she requested for. There is no concept of being saved through the catholic church only in any of Jesus' teachings. Read the book that the catholic church compiled. It is called the bible.

Well, She didn't say ' go to Jesus ' in John 2: 1-11........She approached Him Herself. She's so charitable !!!

Mary was my mother when I was Jesus, but you know that already.

@@veritasmuy2407.........John 2: 1-5 shows a charitable Mary interceding at a wedding and Jesus gave them the BEST WINE. Today, Mary still intercedes in the wedding of Her Son and His Bride = the Church; and we still get the BEST.

@Blue Butteryfly.........What was there to rebuke ??? All Mary said is ' They have no wine.' I hope YOU are not suggesting that Jesus didn't care.

@@miketeixeira7853 My Mary statue says not to pay attention to protestants.

How someone shows honor is a personal thing; I bow/kiss the dear face of Jesus , Mary and the saints........also my own mother........no apologies. I honor Mary greatly, for by Her ' yes ' to God's Will, I can have eternal life with God.......see Luke 1: 38 & 48.

Amen!!

If Catholics wanted you to worship Mary, they weren’t Catholics. Stop lying.

@@miketeixeira7853 You aren't showing honor, you are worshipping. The Bible says the only one to show honor to is Jesus Christ our Lord and GOD. Mary wouldn't want you to do that... nothing in the Bible supports your beliefs, even the out of context misused verses you quoted. Just read the Bible alone without any other material or interpretation; let it naturally come to you, and you will see that you are wrong. There's a reason non-catholic Christians don't become catholic. Only the other way around. And it's because your teachings can only be accepted if you don't know that it's actually wong and non bliblical. It's like how mormons only exist because a mormon can only be created by brainwashing a child.

me too, i left for those reasons, too much idolatry

Praise god

Prayerfully 🙏🏽and highly 🕊️recommend The Bible in a Year podcast with Father Mike Schmitz from Ascension Presents

I pray God brings you back to the one True Church.

@@jeffreycole2816 must not have watched the videos.

PRAISE GOD

This is exactly my thought. As a matter of fact I am skeptical about any Christian who doesn't study God's word for themselves, anything such person says must be weighed critically. God's word is the and should be the yard stick for every believer.

sola scriptura is the biggest deception, the mockery of the Word of God. Protestantism is false and its heretical doctrine sola scriptura was never taught in Tradition, early church teaching, theology and scriptures.

@@alfray1072 Ahaha! because scripture against your teaching and now you against it?,how pitiful is that,no catholic can be biblical christian,you are the one who deceive man,stop worshipping mary by bow down to her statue and making up MAN MADE TRADITION like mariology dont you read it yet? Revelation 22:8-9 (NET) I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things, and when I heard and saw them, I threw myself down to WORSHIP at the feet of the ANGEL who was showing them to me. But he said to me, “DO NOT do this! I am a fellow SERVANT with you and with your brothers the prophets, and with those who obey the words of this book. Worship God!” Angel says dont WORSHIP him because he is SERVANT,and what Mary call herself? is she servant too? that you must not worship her too? The answer is yes,mary is a servant Luke 1:47-48 (NET) and my spirit has begun to rejoice in God my SAVIOR, because he has looked upon the humble state of HIS SERVANT. For from now on all generations will call ME blessed, 1.She Has Savior which mean she still a sinner 2.She is a Servant that no one is Permitted to Worship her,Only God ALL Scripture is God breathed *2 timothy 3 16* why are you distorted TRADITION with MAN MADE TRADITION btw? didnt the bible has said *"STANDING FIRM AND HOLD THE TRADITION????"* 2 Thessalonians 2:15 (NET) Therefore, brothers and sisters, stand firm and HOLD on to the traditions that we taught you, whether by speech or by letter. If you are Holding Something,and standing firm in some place,YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE,then why did Roman catholic distort and Add some new MAN MADE TRADITION for all the century?? didnt you read it that THE TRADITION HAVE BEEN DELIVERED? HAVE BEEN TAUGHT? then WHY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS SUCH MARIOLOGY IN 1TH CENTURY? people love to bring Revelation 12 to support mariology,but what Revelation 12 is all about??? Revelation 12:11 (NET) But they overcame him by the BLOOD of the LAMB and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives so much that they were afraid to die. THERE IS *BLOOD OF LAMB* what is this lamb if not JESUS CHRIST?Jesus have been death before revelation 12!,this is the context of Revelation that JESUS HAVE ALREADY APPEAR IN REVELATION 5! Revelation 5:5 (NET) Then one of the elders said to me, “Stop weeping! Look, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has CONQUERED; thus he can open the scroll and its seven seals.” Jesus says that he will be ascended and GLORIFIED in heaven after he is RESSURECTED John 3:14 (NET) Just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, Are you really faithful with SOLA ECCLESIA (Only Church)??,then you are HAVING SOME MENTAL PROBLEM!, Im believer of SOLA SCRIPTURA (Scripture Only) NO ONE HAVE INFALLIBILITY IN THIS WORLD,when people canonized bible,they didnt think thay THEY HAVE INFALLIBLE AUTHORITY FROM GOD,the didnt think such a thing!,They are just REASONABLY CHOOSE THE SCRIPTURE!,this is why SCRIPTURE ITSELF IS STILL UNDENIABLE AND STILL INFALLIBLE BY ITSELF! I believe in sola scriptura,protestanism is Spreading super fast,Look at PewResearch on "Leaving catholicism",most of people leave ROMAN catholicism because they have problem with its theology,it says that: *Among both groups, an additional three-in-ten left the Catholic Church as young adults between ages 18 and 23. Only one-fifth who are now unaffiliated (21%) and one-third who are now Protestant (34%) departed after turning age 24. Among those who left the Catholic Church as minors, most say it was their own DECISION rather than their parents’ decision.* FAITH ALONE! CHRIST ALONE! I WILL BE SAVED! I challenge you to watch Dr.James White debating Sola Scriptura,i think you will be protestant for that! ❤️

Twisting the Scriptures.....LOL. What a nonsensical video. The Catholic Church GAVE us the Scriptures. Protestantism didn't even exist until 1500.....when Martin Luther tried to re-write his own Bible. In fact, the Catholic Church itself even preceeded the Scriptures....they were first assembled and translated, in the first Bible, by Jerome, a Catholic Saint, in the 4th Century. People trying to interpret the Bible outside of the Church are the main reasons we have more than 250 Protestant denominations.......and one Original Catholic Church, which goes back to Peter Himself, who was given that power by Christ Himself.

@Jacob Posego Excellent post. Jacob. You told it exactly like it is. People who make anti-Catholic videos have a LOT to learn.

@@skippy675 Of course I’d argue the contrary. But I suppose it also depends on whether you live an evidence based life or not. There is plenty of evidence for Jesus and God, agreed upon both sides of the aisle. Now the atheists may disagree on the evidence proving a Christian God but they do admit that some force exists or at very least existed pre-big bang and the formation of everything required something inexplicable to create it. Personally, I spent most of my life as an atheist because I never endeavored to really dig into it and just parroted most of the typical rebuttals when debating Christians. But once I did, I cannot deny that there is indeed a God.

Actually, Scott Hahn had a Catholic grand-mother, who probably prayed for him. At her death, he was given her Rosary which he threw away in disgust. But grand-mas prayers were answered, and one day as he snuck into a Mass, the Bible came alive to him.........a beautiful thing.

The indoctrination is very strong. Holy Spirit is the essential to obtain The Truth that dismantles indoctrination. “I am the way, The Truth, the life” Jesus = The Truth+ Holy Spirit = The Spirit of Truth+ May all truth-seekers find the way.

​@@miketeixeira7853 have you listened to this video at all? It's wonderful that his grandmother prayed for him. But that doesn't mean that she was right. I've listened to Catholic apologists and what they had to say and I think their reasoning is flawed. If you didn't listen to this video, then you are just trying to persuade by feelings. Maybe open yourself up to the possibility of reanalyzing your belief system as some of us have. At least give it a listen and be able to support your reason why you believe what you do.

Not really. I, along with many others, feel like my relationship with Christ is much greater as a Catholic. Also, Catholic Mariology is not "idolatry." Not sure where you came up with that simple-minded conclusion?

@@kyleskopec4314 Mariologi is Idolatry, strong idolatry, and paganism. Jewish Understanding is compelately against that, in Jewish understanding bowing down to perosn of Mary and her image is idolatry and Romanism is doing that.

And that's the key. Putting aside the straw men that Catholics don't dislike idolatry and that a statue of the most favorite saint in Christian history, Mary of Nazareth, the mother of God, is 'idolatry:' Christians nor Jews never lived in a time in which there was not a faith handed in light of which they understood Scripture. And not only that, but Scripture was not the only means by which the faith was handed on. Even the New Testament says that. It's handed on by tradition, and this safeguards Scripture's meaning against novelty and heresy. If you pick up the Bible you'll come to the conclusion that all the varying sects of 'bible only' sects have done. Choas. No agreement. Each one claiming to be the 'original pure bible only doctrine.' We don't need that because we have a pedigree of faith that goes back to the Apostles, with an unbroken line of teachers, bishops, priests and popes who have safeguarded that faith. And the best part is we have proof, in the form of their writings, for 2000 years. The Apostles never intended Scripture to be a free for all document handed to anyone. It was entrusted to the church and its shepherds. When you take away the faith, you begin to FALLIBLY conclude and fabricate one from the text yourself, according to your own interpretation.

@@kyleskopec4314 Mary wouldn’t like knowing “believers of Christ” bowing down to her as a statue. We don’t even know what she actually looks like so really it’s a random statue which people perceive as being Mary. Bible warns us about idolising statues etc. You are literally making Mary a goddess by also hailing her. God is omnipresent. We don’t need to pray or ask saints, angels or even Priests about our worries and everything else. We just need Jesus. If however you believe there’s nothing wrong with that.. i pray for you. A lot of people are deceived. Read and study the word. Look back on the greek and latin translations also to see what it refers too.

@@blahblahblah555 do you even read the bible...Statues exist in the ARk of the Covenant, the Curtains of the tabernacle, The temple of Solomon... And in case you don't know, These are HOLY...you don't spit Saliva on Holy things do you??

If the Catholic Church is deceptive and so is the early church. As far as Mary having multiple children, There is literally nothing in the Bible that supports that. It doesn't exist.

@@veritasmuy2407 This is literally nothing outside of your incoherent rambling. Nothing you said even abstractly approaches truth.

@@veritasmuy2407 That's the poorest argument I've ever heard. Because it assumes that a semetic people will use Greek the same way a Greek person would. And the Hebrews didn't. And there's absolute evidence this is the case. In Matthew, Jesus says that whoever does the Will of God is his brother and sister. And he uses THE EXACT SAME WORD. Are we to believe then that Jesus is biologically related to every single person doing God's will? My argument still stands and your attempted rebuttal is completely invalid.

@@veritasmuy2407 It's almost as if you think I'm going to deny the New Testament was written in Greek. I'm aware of this. Also the distinction that protestants make between pettros and Patra, Only applies in classical Greek, Which wasn't spoken for over 500 years at the time of Christ. The apostles are speaking Koine Greek. And there is no such distinction made between those words that you are making with in that language variety. Also what you were reading in Paul and Peter in no way contradicts what Matthew was saying about the church being built on Peter. Believe it or not, Christianity is quite nuanced. You can have a church being built on the Pope, (In this case Peter). Whilst also having the church being built on Christ. Both these things are true in a qualitative sense. The black-and-white thinking you are bringing to the table is absolutely foreign and alien to any serious Christian that actually gives a damn about understanding the ancient faith.

@@veritasmuy2407 At this point you're too stupid to insult.

So......give us an example of a ' wild stretch of the imagination scenario ' and show us where YOU get YOUR sound doctrine from.

@@miketeixeira7853 Oh where to begin, there are SOOOOOO many! Here's just one: The Prayer of St. Adolphus is so incredibly blasphemous, yet you Catholics are incapable of seeing it! Mary is NOT the advocate, hope and refuge of sinners. JESUS is! Mary does NOT save us from hell. JESUS does! Mary is NOT the one most worthy of all love. JESUS is! It is JESUS whom we are to promise to serve forever and win others to HIS love. NOT Mary! It is JESUS in whom we are to put all our trust. NOT Mary! JESUS is the hope of our salvation. NOT Mary! JESUS protects us. NOT Mary! Mary is NOT the Mother of Mercy. Mercy comes from GOD ALONE! Mary has NO power with God, and it is the HOLY SPIRIT Who delivers us from temptation and gives us power to overcome them. NOT Mary! It is the Holy Spirit who leads us to love Christ. NOT Mary! The Holy Spirit is our Helper. NOT Mary! It is God's praises that we will be singing for endless ages. NOT Mary's! This prayer is just one more in the LONG line of proofs showing that the Roman Catholic Church has made Mary a divinity and how they BYPASS Christ! This prayer is utterly BLASPHEMOUS, yet it was given wholehearted approval by Pope Pius IX; and he so generously granted an indulgence of 300 days each time the faithful say this prayer with at least a contrite heart and devotion before an image or picture of Mary! Better get praying, Catholics; if you say this prayer every day for a year you'll get 109,500 days less in the non-existent Purgatory (109,800 days if it's a leap year!)

@@RiffRaff1962............Eve's ' yes ' to satan brought death into the world......see Genesis 3: 1-6. Mary's ' yes ' to God brought us the Savior........see Luke 1: 38. YOUR heart is showing as prophesied in Luke 2: 35. Repent !!!

@@miketeixeira7853 I notice you didn't address any of the numerous blasphemous "adorations" of Mary in "Saint" Adolphus' prayer. GOD'S TRUE church does not have the blood of so many innocent men, women and children on it's hands as the Roman Catholic Church DOES! If Mary had said "no" to GOD, which she could have as GOD never forces, He would simply have chosen another.

@@RiffRaff1962........I dis-agree. God creates His servants and never takes ' no ' for an answer.......see Jonah, Moses, Jeremiah and Peter in Luke 5: 8, Exodus 4: 10-17, Jeremiah 1., and Jonah 1.

You do understand Jesus Christ fulfilled the Davidic Covenant promise and there was always a Queen Mother (1 Kings 15:13, 2 Kings 10:13, 2 Chronicles 15:16, Jeremiah 13:18, 29:2), right??? We pray for Queen Mary to intercede for us before the "King Son". Is it Biblical??? Absolutely. 1 Kings 2:19-20 and John 2:3-5 Queen Mary advocated for "King" Jesus to start His ministry on behalf of another. Now, you have never been taught Jesus Christ's basic mission or read Galatians 4:4-7??? What does Jesus Christ "born under the law to REDEEM THOSE WHO WERE UNDER THE LAW" and "adopted" mean??? If GOD is now our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ is our King Brother, then WHO LOGICALLY WOULD BE OUR HEAVENLY QUEEN MOTHER??? John 19:27 and Revelation 12:1-6. Ever read in CONTEXT of Mary "crowned" in Heaven what it says in Revelation 12:17??? What does "HER CHILDREN" indicate??? WHO'S children are we??? Got any pictures of your family??? Ever kiss a picture or image of your beloved family??? Do you ever ask your family to pray for you???

One True Faith no one comes to the Father, but by Christ.

@@KristiLEvans1 , Another Sacrament that has salvation written all over it. "Real Presence" or Holy Eucharist Defense 1. "Pascal lamb" In Exodus 12:3-14 GOD "forever" liturgically commands the PASSOVER, as a means of proper worship, which REQUIRED the "lamb" to be consumed for "Death to Passover". Jesus, the "Lamb of GOD" (John 1:29, 1 Corinthians 5:7, 1 Peter 1:19) transformed this "forever" GOD commanded PASSOVER Feast during the "Last Supper" in every synoptic Gospel account into the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER (Luke 22:19). Further, in CONTEXT of the PASSOVER (John 6:4) Jesus Christ's "Bread of LIFE" discourse REQUIRES us to "abide" in the "Lamb of GOD'S" BODY and BLOOD for "Death to Passover" (John 6:54-58). ***Protestants, Jesus states the consequences of not partaking of Him in John **6:53**.*** In John 6:60, everyone was disbelieving Jesus's "hard" teaching (John 6:54-58) about the Holy Eucharist. So, if you were Jesus how would you respond to people disbelieving you??? Wouldn't you want to provide some "proof" or "evidence" you mean what you say??? How does Jesus Christ respond to His disbelievers in John 6:60 and what "proof" will He provide per John 6:62??? 2. "Heavenly Manna" GOD provided "Spiritual Food and Drink" (1 Corinthians 10:1-4) to His old covenant people, so wouldn't Jesus Christ provide something for His NEW COVENANT chosen people??? Jesus Christ compares Himself to the old covenant "Heavenly Manna" in John 6:31-35. Jesus teaches the "Heavenly Manna" that came down "daily" will now actually be Him (John 6:51-58). In the "Our Father" prayer Jesus Christ is stating "give us THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD" referring to Himself as the "BREAD OF LIFE" (John 6:35, 48, 51). Acts 2:46. The Catholic Church has been "breaking bread (of LIFE) daily" of the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER (Luke 22:19) before the Book of Acts was even written in the mid 60's AD, all along since Jesus Christ's death in 33AD, and to this very day fulfilling Malachi 1:11 prophecy all across the world "daily"!!! 3. "HOW HE WAS MADE KNOWN TO THEM in the Breaking Bread" (Luke 24:35) In the Luke 24:13-35 "Road to Emmaus" scriptures there clearly is a "structure" being referrenced - being the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER or Catholic Mass. In Luke 24:27 there is an opening and interpreting of the Sacred Scriptures (Readings and Homily). Then, an explanation of how Jesus Christ fulfilled all the old covenant prophecies and covenant promises. Then, we have the "participation in" (1 Corinthians 10:16-17) of the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER "breaking of bread" where the "Lamb of GOD" Jesus Christ becomes "KNOWN" to us. Protestants what does Jesus Christ say to you refusing to "break bread" with Him in His ONE and ONLY "Kingdom of GOD" here on earth being the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH per Luke 7:21-23??? Still saved??? 4. "Bread of the PRESENCE" Along with the Passover, GOD "forever" liturgically commands the "Bread of the PRESENCE" to be part of His proper worship in Leviticus 24:5-9. In the old Jewish Temple, the old "Heaven and Earth" of worship, a veil seperated two main worship rooms. In the outer room housed the "Bread of the PRESENCE" and it was separated by the veil from the inner room called the HOLY of HOLIES that no one but the High Priest could go. This HOLY of HOLIES is where Jews believed God's "real presence" remained. So, when Jesus Christ died the veil was "torn" (Matthew 27:51, Mark 15:38, Luke 23:45) that separated the HOLY of HOLIES and the "Bread of the PRESENCE" in the outer room, so there was no longer any barrier (liturgically speaking) between GOD'S presence and the "Bread of the PRESENCE" (Matthew 28:20). So, if the veil was "torn" allowing GOD'S presence in the Holy of Holies to flow to the "BREAD of the PRESENCE" in the outer room of worship, then what does the Holy Eucharist "Bread of the PRESENCE" truly become in the fulfilled NEW COVENANT FORM??? 5. "ONE BREAD ONE BODY" 1 Corinthians 10:16-17. If the "many" become "ONE BODY" through "participation in" the ONE SACRIFICE of the "Lamb of GOD" Jesus Christ in the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER, then how can the Holy Eucharist possibly be a mere symbol??? Truly, we can ONLY become ONE BODY (1 Corinthians 10:16-17, Ephesians 5:29-32), ONE FLOCK (John 10:16), ONE TEMPLE (1 Corinthians 3:17), ONE CHURCH (Ephesians 4:4-6), ONE BRIDE (2 Corinthians 11:2) through the "ONE" Jesus Christ (John 6:54-58) the "Lamb of God" (John 1:29, 1 Corinthians 5:7, 1 Peter 1:19) in the "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" (Revelation 19:9) NEW COVENANT PASSOVER (Luke 22:19). 6. "EAT AND DRINK JUDGMENT UPON OURSELVES" 1 Corinthians 11:27-29. If "partaking unworthily" is "eating and drinking JUDGMENT upon ourselves", then how in the world rationally and logically can the Holy Eucharist merely and simply be a symbol as Protestants purport??? 7. Partaking of "Divinity" (John 6:55-56, 2 Peter 1:4, Catechism #460) to become a true Son or Daughter of GOD. In the Garden of Eden man was created in the "image" and "likeness" of GOD. Through Adam and Eve's disobedience it caused us to lose our "likeness" to GOD (original sin). For GOD's "likeness" and goodness can never mix with sin. (John 3:6, Romans Chapter 5) Jesus Christ is the NEW ADAM OF OBEDIENCE. In God's beautiful salvation plan He takes a "do not partake" disobedience and removal of the "TREE OF LIFE" (Genesis 3:23) from sinful Adam and Eve and transforms it to telling us "to partake" of the "TREE OF LIFE" (John 6:54-58, Revelation 22:2, 14) through the NEW ADAM OF OBEDIENCE (Romans 5:12-21) Jesus Christ the "Lamb of God". Catholics receive His "divinity" in the Holy Eucharist obtaining our "likeness" back if we partake "worthily" (1 Corinthians 11:27-29) and thereby we truly become "divine" Sons and Daughters of GOD. We "unite" with the "Son" Jesus Christ the NEW ADAM (Romans 5:12-21). As a result, we become a part of GOD'S NEW CREATION (2 Corinthians 5:17, Galatians 6:15, Ephesians 1:10, Colossians 1:15-17, 20) here on earth. The "TREE OF LIFE" hangs above every Catholic Church altar. 8. "Thanksgiving" or Jewish Todah In this Jewish Messianic prophecy feast the "lamb" sacrifice had to occur at the same time the "bread and wine" was consecrated. Just as the Jews believed they were "participating in" the original and timeless first PASSOVER when celebrating their old covenant "forever" GOD commanded Passover (Exodus 12:14), so do Catholics believe we are "participating in" the ONE SACRIFICE of Jesus Christ during the consecration of the bread and wine (1 Corinthians 10:16-17) in the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER. The Greek "Eucharistia" or English meaning "Thanksgiving" being the One Holy "Eucharist" is the source, summit, and ultimate high point of worship in the NEW COVENANT. 9. "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" (Revelation 19:9). Every CATHOLIC during the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER "Mass" enters the aisle and approaches the "Bridegroom" Jesus Christ the "Lamb of God" who hangs above every single altar. We get to see the "Bridegroom" who emptied Himself out on the cross for His ONE and ONLY "BRIDE" the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. The "right and just" response of each and every Catholic is to give all of ourselves back to Him in the "Marriage Supper of the Lamb". Historical support per Early Church Father beliefs on the "Real Presence" Holy Eucharist: www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html Be "ONE WITH CHRIST" by accepting His ONE and ONLY BODY in the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. ,

@One for all , **GOD wants to be worshipped HIS WAY no longer in an old covenant Jewish way and definately not in 35,000 and growing Protestant "man made" Golden Calf ways.*** BIBLICAL “FOREVER” COMMANDS OF WORSHIP Does your Church meet the “forever” historical link all the way back to Judaism when Jesus Christ died on the cross, and from that point on until this very day celebrate the fulfillment of these “forever” liturgical worship commands of GOD in their “perfected” NEW COVENANT FORM? 1. Passover Feast (Exodus 12:14, 24) Jesus during the “Last Supper” transformed the “forever” GOD commanded Passover by replacing the lamb with Himself in all the Gospel accounts. (Jesus is described as the “Lamb of GOD” in John 1:29, 1 Peter 1:19, and in 1 Corinthians 5:7 “Christ, our Passover Lamb, has been sacrificed for us”) In the OT, everyone celebrating the Passover Feast was commanded by GOD to eat the meat of the lamb for death to “Passover”. Could a Hebrew or later practicing Jew only “symbolically” eat the lamb and obey GOD??? Jesus was being liturgically consistent with the original “forever” OT Passover commands to “eat the meat of the lamb” culminating in His “hard” teaching in John 6:53-54: “Truly, Truly, I say to you, UNLESS you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, YOU DO NOT HAVE LIFE IN YOU. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood HAS ETERNAL LIFE”. NEWPASSOVER(CCC#611,13391340) www.salvationhistory.com/studies/lesson/the_paschal_mystery_how_jesus_celebrated_fulfilled_the_passover 2. Day of Atonement (Leviticus 16:30-33) CC has the altar and gives out the atoning blood provided by the “eternal” High Priest Jesus fulfilling Leviticus 17:11 “For the LIFE OF THE FLESH IS IN THE BLOOD, and I HAVE GIVEN IT FOR YOU UPON THE ALTAR TO MAKE ATONEMENT FOR YOUR SOULS; for it is THE BLOOD THAT MAKES ATONEMENT, by REASON OF THE LIFE” (CCC 616,623) www.salvationhistory.com/studies/lesson/jesus_and_the_day_of_atonement 3. Tabernacle Feast (Leviticus 23:41-42) CC has the Tabernacle and fulfills this feast within the Mass. (CCC #1183,1090) www.salvationhistory.com/studies/lesson/tabernacles_old_testament_feast_and_eucharistic_fulfillment 4. Unleavened Bread Feast (Exodus 12:17) CC has “7 days” a week unleavened bread (CCC#1334) www.salvationhistory.com/studies/lesson/the_mystery_of_the_feast_of_unleavened_bread 5. Sanctuary Lamp (Exodus 27:20-21) CC has this burning constantly before the Tabernacle. 6. Tabernacle Candles (Leviticus 24:2-4) CC has special candles placed next to the Tabernacle as commanded (CCC #1154, 1189) 7. Tabernacle Bread of the Presence (Leviticus 24:5-9, Exodus 25:30) Jesus Christ becomes the true fulfilled “Bread of the Presence” during the Mass consecration. (CCC #1378) 8. Leviticus Priesthood (Exodus 29:7-9, Exodus 40:15, 1 Chronicles 23:13, *Numbers 25:12-13, *Jeremiah 33:14-22, *Isaiah 66:21, Malachi 2:4-7, Malachi 3:3) Jesus fulfills the Levi Covenant promise by ordaining and reconciling the 12 apostles (tribes) for priesthood in the Upper Room to “do this in remembrance of me” (CCC #611, 1337). Proof? John 13:1-20 Jesus prior to His passion washes and “purifies” the Apostles to prepare them for priestly altar work (fulfilling Malachi 3:3 and the “forever” priest washing in Exodus 30:21). Like OT “Forever” Feasts, a Leviticus form of priesthood has to preside at the altar of sacrifice, be washed, and ultimately has to abstain or be celibate to even touch the “Bread of the Presence” (CCC # 1541-2) Jesus is the “pure offering” presented by the priesthood through “daily” Mass across the world fulfilling Malachi 1:11 prophesy. 9. Priest Washing (Exodus 30:21) CC Priests complete a washing before consecration (CCC #1337) 10. Priestly Share (Numbers 18:22-23) CC Priests are the first partakers of the Holy Eucharist, and receive offerings to the Church (CCC #2043) 11. Animal Sacrifice (Leviticus 7:36-38; Deuteronomy 12:26-28, Exodus 29:42) Jesus is the described fulfillment “Lamb of GOD” (John 1:29 and 1 Corinthians 5:7) (CCC #608, 613) 12. Grain Offering (Leviticus 6:9-11; 23:13-14) CC has bread and wine offering from parishioners brought up to the priests and the altar. (CCC #1334, 1350) 13. Incense Burning (Exodus 30:8) CC Mass celebrate with incense on various occasions. (CCC #1154) 14. Sabbath - Mark 2:28, Matthew 12:8, Luke 6:5 “For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath”. The day our Risen Lord showed us what to do in Luke 24:13-35 and “how He was made known to them in the breaking of the bread”. The risen Jesus obeys His Heavenly Father's "perpetual" celebration command being on "the day after Sabbath" per Leviticus 23:11-14, Pentecost 15-21, and verse 39 Tabernacle Feast being the “First day” and “Eighth Day” which is one in the same SUNDAY or “First Day of the Week”. CC follows our Risen Lord’s lead with “breaking of bread” or celebrating the “forever” NEW COVENANT PASSOVER on Sundays. CC even fulfills Jesus’s “Our Father” prayer “give us this day our daily bread” (Jesus compared Himself to OT manna in John 6:31-35) by providing the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER “daily”. The Hebrew word “olam” or English translations “forever, everlasting, or perpetual” was clearly understood by the Jewish people as they still are “forever” obeying GOD’s liturgical commands and celebrating a form of the original Passover, Unleavened Bread, Day of Atonement, and Tabernacle Feasts to this very day. JESUS CHRIST IS THE NEW ADAM (Romans 5:12-21) making us part of the NEW CREATION ( 2 CORINTHIANS 5:17, GALATIANS 6:15) to enter into the NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH of worship (Isaiah 66:18-23).NEW ADAM + NEW CREATION + NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH = NEW SABBATH (Pentecost is "forever" GOD commanded on what "day" in Leviticus 23:15 with a day of rest in verse 21??? Hebrews 4:7-9??? "HE AGAIN SETS A CERTAIN DAY ” AND “ GOD WOULD NOT SPEAK LATER OF ANOTHER DAY " ). So, if the Church was "born" on Pentecost through the "same day" the NEW ADAM was resurrected on, then what "day" would we get "reborn" (John 3:5) on to "LIVE in the "Spirit of the law" (Romans 8:2) being LOVE (John 13:34) of the NEW COVENANT???

@@onetruefaith2091 you are very good at cutting and pasting from Catholic websites This is typical of Catholics, just bombard Protestants with distortions. To my fellow Christians, there's nothing to fear here these people are lying what you do with Mary is a horrendous thing, Would you agree to the following prayer to Mary? O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the goods which God grants to us miserable sinners, and for this reason he has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee. Come then, to my help, dearest Mother, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation and to thee do I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, dear Mother, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my Judge himself, because by one prayer from thee he will be appeased. But one thing I fear, that in the hour of temptation I may neglect to call on thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, then, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace always to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. you agree to the above ? And no there aren't 33,000 thousand denominations. But you have a pope who claims infallibility which is not historical or Biblical and you follow him blindly. And still you have divisions ? I thought your wonderful pope is supposed to speak and shut up all the disagreements?

Barbara Moran nonsense ... two thousands years of Christian history and this guy throws it away from his basement with word art on the wall

Barbara Moran you are correct. Now here's something terrifying - there happens to be a Catholic mystic from the Philippines called Emma de Guzman who sometimes shows symptoms of stigmata and has visions of "Mary". The Marian apparition identifies itself as the "immaculate conception"(!) Emma de Guzman has the ability to touch people and make them fall backwards supposedly under the power of the "Holy Spirit". Which then begs the question - if people are falling backwards under the power of a demonic spirit coming out of Emma de Guzman. .then are they also falling backwards under the power of demon spirits in charismatic churches. .OR. .are demon powers coming out of Emma de Guzman and mimicking the effects of the Holy Spirit which really Does make people fall backwards as in legitimate charismatic churches?. .

@Ναζωραῖος "Men are never infallible but that is what you have to believe as a Roman Catholic". What a moronic thing to say. Protestants please stop spreading lies about Catholicism!! Not very hard to speak the truth or be silent on matters you know nothing of...

@@budekins542 some charismatic churches may be dealing with the Kundalini spirit

Marissa Joy Miller

Except that you are totally wrong. Jesus startted Catholic church. Protestant churches are man made.

@@johnyang1420 Jesus started the Church, which is One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic, and existed for at least 200 years before there's a shred of evidence anyone prayed to Mary or believed she had been bodily assumed into heaven. The One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church became fractured in her 400s, became even more fractured in her 1000s, and fractured again in her 1500s. The assertion that Protestant churches are manmade and external to the Church, rather than part of a fractured Church, is historically naive at best and wilful ignorance of ecclesiology at worst. ...also, even if your ecclesiological assertions were correct, it doesn't change the fact that Trent Horn's content that Mike Winger is responding to is offensively bad theology. You could be 100% correct and Trent Horn would still be preaching offensively bad theology.

Jesus only started one church....Catholic.

Protestant churches were started by men. This is abundantly clear. Google it😅.

@@johnyang1420 Of course he only started one Church. And that Church has been divided more than once. You aren't even engaging with anything I have to say, though; you're just repeating yourself. Things don't become true because you say them enough times. "Google it" isn't an argument.

Well, first of all the Word of God isn’t just the Scriptures, so we wouldn’t necessarily need to find it in Scripture. You’re asking for explicitness in Scripture. Well, for one, Catholics believe in Scripture and Tradition, which the Jews also used, and the New Testament supports. We believe God transmits the Word through two ways, Tradition and Scripture, which the Jews also believed. Paul says to obey the traditions that the Apostles handed to us, and he says by word of mouth (tradition) or letter (Scripture). The early Christians didn’t have Bibles, or even a Bible Canon and relied on Church Tradition. The Bible was in fact, compiled by the Catholic Church, using Tradition, and actually the Mass. So without the Catholic Church, since the early Christians didn’t preserve a Bible Canon, and the Bible itself doesn’t have a Bible Canon, then we would need an Authority to tell us what is Scripture and what is not. Is Enoch inspired? How many Gospels are there? This is something the Catholic Church infallibly stated in Church Councils. Furthermore, the New Testament references traditions not found in the Old Testament such as when Jesus mentions a “seat of Moses”, which was in the Jewish Talmud, which was originally oral tradition. Something not found in the OT. The New Testament also quotes a prophecy about the Messiah being a Nazarene even though this is not found in the OT, and likely another tradition. The Scriptures again tell us to entrust the traditions handed to us to righteous people. And the earliest Christians we can find were all Catholic. In fact Catholicism is what we find throughout all the early Church. It wasn’t until the Enlightenment era and Martin Luther that sola scriptura (Scripure alone) and Protestant Christianity even came up. I can cite Saint Ignatius of Antioch, a direct disciple of Saint John the Apostle, as writing doctrines that are Catholic. Also, many of our doctrines and our understanding of basics like the Trinity come from the Catholic Church. Trinity isn’t found in Scripture, and yet is something practically all Christians use.

Denying Mary is the Mother of God really makes no sense. I’m quoting a website: The first Christians called Mary the “Mother of God” without hesitation. There was scriptural precedent, and it seemed logical. If Jesus was God, and Mary was his mother, then that made her the Mother of God. That sort of logic depends on a principle called the “Communication of Idioms.” According to that principle, whatever one says about either of Christ’s natures can be truly said of Christ himself. That’s because His two natures, the divine nature and the human nature, were united in Him. He is one divine person. In the fifth century, however, some people raised the same objections to the title that many non-Catholics raise today: They argued that the title “Mother of God” implied that Mary was the “originator of God.” Those objectors said that they could accept the title “Mother of Christ,” but not “Mother of God.” At the heart of those objections, however, was an objection to the unity of Christ’s two natures. Mary, they claimed, gave birth only to Christ’s human nature, not his divine nature. The Church, led by Pope Celestine I and St. Cyril of Alexandria, disagreed. As St. Cyril pointed out, a mother gives birth to a person, not a nature. Accordingly, Mary gave birth to Jesus Christ, who was and is a divine person. Although Mary did not “originate” or “generate” God, she did bear Him in her womb and give birth to Him. She was God’s mother.

@@kyrptonite1825 the problem here is that what the Jews were doing God gave them to show them how badly they needed a savior when Jesus came and died and rose again he fulfilled the law so all of those traditions went away. The way Catholics are doing all this today as if Christ never came and died on the cross and rose again. Also let's look at the first Christians they were the apostles and those that the became saved as a result of what the apostles we're teaching. Go read the book of acts and Romans. It's very very clear none of them taught anything like what the Roman Catholic church does and they were the foundation to spread want Jesus was already teaching. If we needed to rely also on traditions don't you think they would have said something ?? They absolutely would have. They relyed on scripture and Christ alone . They went into the synagogue only to be amongst the Jews they were trying to tell about Jesus. They quite often quoted written down scripture and then began to write letters to the believers that taught the truth to help them on their walk with God. Even a group called the Bereans studied the scriptures to make sure what message they received from Paul I believe was correct. We are told to hold everything against scripture that is what the Bible teaches. There are so many things that The Roman Catholic church is against however is plainly taught in scripture. How does that happen ? Unless they decided to make up their own man made religions with a Christian feel. That's exactly what we see I'm history many peoples like gnostics who took some info they liked from Christianity along with their pagan beliefs and created something new. Catholism was birthed out of a similar type of way. The reason it became so big was because of the authority they gave themselves this did not come from Jesus the rulers of the Roman empire did this and of course because of their might and covering on the earth they were able to make this happen. When you look at the church today all you see is authority in the name of Jesus. One day God tells us that people will say Lord Lord didnt we do this and that in your name and he will say part from me you evil doers. That should be alarming. There are so many holes in catholism. Those that broke away from the church began to read the Bible for themselves and that is why they broke away it's not that it never existed it's that no one was allowed to read for themselves just as the Jews for a time were not. Once they did they saw what the truth was. I love you dearly which is why I'm telling you this please ask God about these things . The truth is catholism is a deception it's a very good one at that but one none the less. I pray your eyes will be opened

@@kyrptonite1825 Which first Christians called Mary the mother of God? In which sources can I find that?

@@nebucamv5524 Here’s some sources “For Luke, in the inspired Gospel narratives, delivers a testimony not to Joseph only, but also to Mary, the Mother of God, and gives this account with reference to the very family and house of David” (Four Homilies 1 [A.D. 262]). “It is our duty to present to God, like sacrifices, all the festivals and hymnal celebrations; and first of all, [the feast of] the Annunciation to the holy Mother of God, to wit, the salutation made to her by the angel, ‘Hail, full of grace!’” (ibid., 2). “[T]o all generations they [the prophets] have pictured forth the grandest subjects for contemplation and for action. Thus, too, they preached of the advent of God in the flesh to the world, his advent by the spotless and God-bearing (theotokos) Mary in the way of birth and growth” (Discourse on the End of the World 1 [A.D. 217]). They came to the church of the most blessed Mother of God, and ever-virgin Mary, which, as we began to say, he had constructed in the western quarter, in a suburb, for a cemetery of the martyrs” (The Genuine Acts of Peter of Alexandria [A.D. 305]). “We acknowledge the resurrection of the dead, of which Jesus Christ our Lord became the firstling; he bore a body not in appearance but in truth derived from Mary the Mother of God” (Letter to All Non-Egyptian Bishops 12 [A.D. 324]). “While the old man [Simeon] was thus exultant, and rejoicing with exceeding great and holy joy, that which had before been spoken of in a figure by the prophet Isaiah, the holy Mother of God now manifestly fulfilled” (Oration on Simeon and Anna 7 [A.D. 305]). “The Virgin Mary, being obedient to his word, received from an angel the glad tidings that she would bear God” (Against Heresies, 5:19:1 [A.D. 189]). “The Father bears witness from heaven to his Son. The Holy Spirit bears witness, coming down bodily in the form of a dove. The archangel Gabriel bears witness, bringing the good tidings to Mary. The Virgin Mother of God bears witness” (Catechetical Lectures 10:19 [A.D. 350]).

I had a lot of Catholic instruction and almost none of it was about Mary. The Catholic Church accepts the fact that simple people will pray to Mary and its saints and that they will ask for things and "godly services". That's what simple people do. They are not priests, they are not theologians and there is no belief within the Church that god takes offense in simple people doing things that priests know better not to do. That is no different from Judaism. Every Rabbi can tell you that he performs a different routine from what most Jewish people will do. That's why he is a Rabbi and they are not.

So where is sola scriptura and "mike winger" in scriptures and Sacred Tradition?

@@lepidoptera9337 Are you saying the four Mary dogmas are not believed by priests but by simple people and the Catholic church sort of just lets them do whatever they do even though it's mot right? Then where do these four dogmas stem from, do they not stem from the Catholic church officially announcing them as things one SHOULD believe in to be saved and is NOT SAVED if they do not? Perhaps many people in lower positions in the Catholic church do not believe these dogmas and thus do not teach them to the regular people, simply because they've recognized they're not true. But doesn't the Catholic church as an institution require believing in these four dogmas?

@@essennagerry The Catholic Church is pretty lenient about what their believers believe. It only brings down the hammer on theologians who are stepping out of line. What you believe in makes no difference in Catholicism. Only works make a difference. So if you are slightly mistaken about the meaning of the trinity, then you will not go to hell. If you don't give to the Church, however, then you will. ;-)

@@lepidoptera9337 Well that sure makes sense for a church in which the enemy is simply content with harmful enough deception. Doctrine wise they promote false teaching on Jesus and salvation! But then they don't care too much what you believe. Oh but they do care about you being an official member, so they do like to keep you close. And when they do, what they give you is teaching such as false teaching on salvation, only being allowed to parttake in the Lord's supper (if that is the phrase in English?) as an official member, sin confession and your priest speaking a blessing of forgiveness over you???? And that also only being available for official members of the Catholic church... that's just insane, but it makes a lot of sense viewed through the lense of an enemy who is simply content to deceive enough to have people lose their souls. However, God is greater. God has people even in the Catholic church who truly believe and truly seek Him and He is using them for HIS works. I believe that and I praise God for that. Just like how He uses even Muslims and Muslim scholars to reveal Jesus. He loves us and takes care of us.

justKenzie..........Christianity did not start in the KJV............Christianity started in Mary's womb.

@@miketeixeira7853 Christianity is in Jesus , the lamb of God, slain before the foundation of the world.

@@miketeixeira7853 why would I think it began with the KJV? That makes no sense... "Christianity", as the world understands it, began with the indwelling Holy Spirit after Christ's resurrection, and with true believers who didn't get sucked in by the believing, yet legalistic, Jews who wanted to keep men under Law (see Galatians)... but technically and in the sight of God, it began even before the forming of the earth, as God's plan was already in progress: "Who [Christ Jesus] verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you" (1 Peter 1:20)

@@justkenzie..........YOU seem to prefer the 16 th. century KJV to the 1 st. century Bible........so......

I too am blessed by the Holy Spirit to remain a Catholic Christian, the same Church that teaches the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ our true food and deink, and that Mary is full of grace, whom all generations shall call blessed, she the foretold woman in Genesis at emnity with satan. God bless you!

To deny purgatory is to deny God's power/mercy over death......even to deny the Resurrection.

@@miketeixeira7853 Mike the Bible says when you die you will be judged and go to heaven or hell Purgatory is a lie you have been deceived You have no information about how to be put in purgatory or how to get out Oh I’m supposed to pray for those in purgatory How do you know they are in purgatory May be in heaven maybe in Hell How long in purgatory? Who knows Mike purgatory was invented by Catholic popes to raise money Selling of indulgences Catholic Church had people pay money to go to heaven or pay money to get a relative out of purgatory These policies caused Luther to list 95 thesis or suggestions to follow bible and stop being immoral 1500s the church split and Protestants or protestors left the pope and Catholic Church Many countries left the pope and Luther had to go into hiding because the pope ordered him to be tortured and killed normal punishment for not following church teachings Lastly Christianity is about Jesus dying for our sins so we could go to heaven Purgatory means Jesus was a lier and died on the cross in vain

@@walterromanoff2953.........Praying for God's mercy for the dead was noted in 2 Macabees 12: 39-46......unless you are sinless at death........see Rev. 21: 27, ' for nothing impure will enter heaven.'

@@miketeixeira7853 The dead have already been Judged They are already in heaven or hell That book you Mentioned Macabres is a false teaching of a false church Did Jesus die on the cross to save you or did he fail If purgatory were real he died on the cross in vain!! That wasn’t good enough You have to go to make believe purgatory and hope people pray for you How do you know if someone is in purgatory Bible says heaven or hell Bible says the dead can’t hear your prayers That’s why Satanists pray to the dead 💀 and the occult Because it’s Antichrist teachings Popes are the Antichrist Vatican worships Satan Popes will lead Catholics to a one world order one world religion You keep calling popes holy father Keep calling Mary Queen and call mother goddesses Fatima and Guadeloupe mother goddesses You have been deceived by the god of this world church Satan Satans church has thousands of its priests raping children and nuns The world protects these crimes Catholic Church pays millions in lawsuits and gets away with it Google Catholic Church bankrupted by immoral priests DARE YOU Right now google it Are you saved Born again Are you a sheep on your way slaughter Follow the teachings of your childhood Jesus said my people perish for lack of knowledge and many will be deceived by false teachings To bad he didn’t say believe in the religion of your grandma Bet grandma was an Irish Catholic or Irish Italian Remember the Mafia are practicing Catholic Hitler and the German people were practicing Catholics Hitler never attacked the pope and Vatican He had the popes approval Google Hitler and the pope video America was founded by England Our founding fathers were not Catholics but bible carrying Protestants You can thank me one day if you can open your mind to the truth I was blind and now I see I was lost and now I’m found Good luck Search for truth Pray for understanding Love god with all tour heart Love one another Help the poor Try other churches Get off u tube Find a nice church with a pastor that teaches the Bible Listen to Billy Gram or Charles Stanley or Joseph Prince teach the word of god Listen to the pope accepting homosexuality and gay marriage

@@walterromanoff2953..........The Catholic Church rejects gay marriage, homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia, divorce (except in some cases), and most of all those that bear false witness. About purgatory........see Luke 16: 19-31. In this story, Jesus tells of three dead men.........a rich man who is in a bad place, and Lazarus and Abraham, who are in a good place.....not in heaven. Where do YOU think the bad place is ??? Is being rich a sin ??? Is being poor a virtue ??? What would a loving God do about the rich man ???

Do you know what our glorified souls in heaven are capable of?

Exactly......SHE CAN'T!.... so many unanswered prayers..... goodness.... it breaks my heart....😥 I still can't believe that a person who reads scripture could ever believe these theological lies! FOLKS.... just read.... on your own. The Holy Spirit will give you the understanding.

@@markita.hardenhome that's a pretty definitive stance. Can you prove she can't? And so many answered prayers? You realize that there are thousands upon thousands of people who pray to God and get unanswered prayers as well? I've read and studied scripture and currently working on my masters in theology. I can say that Marian beliefs in no way contradict scripture.

@@kadeshswanson3991 why did you have to boast about your masters in theology? And the fact that Catholics believe Mary is in heaven does contradict scripture. In Acts 2 : 29 it is written: "Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David (that is David the king of Israel), that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day".... So if king David, who played an extraordinary important role in the history of Christianity and the Bible, is dead and buried, waiting to be raised up on the last day by Christ. Why do you believe that Mary is not dead and buried

@@kadeshswanson3991 I don't need to prove she can't. Scripture doesn't tell us to pray to her....anywhere...so we don't. We pray to God. Christ is our mediator and the Holy Spirit our intercessor... not Mary Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. Romans 8:26-27 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. John 14:26 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died-more than that, who was raised-who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. Romans 8:34 Beware of this teaching. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the one unforgivable sin and trying to usurp the role of the Holy Spirit with Mary is very dangerous territory

She gave Him His blood.

She was a bit more special because she loved God more .... she loved God like a mother and daughter .... how many of us can say the same? No Oedipus spin .... how come it’s only in this respect ... when Protestants are speaking about Mary, one hears the words “she was only his Mother”. Not in any other situation when referring to anyone else, does one hear those words! You don’t say that about a friend’s mother .... she is only his mother! You assume that that friend and his mother have a very special bond.

@@kathleen0933 because Catholic weirdos literally worship Mary, using a different word for it. And no, I don't want to hear the spin for the millionth time that bowing down to and praising and praying to someone isn't worship because a pope came up with a different word for it. Save it for someone who will buy it.

@@miketeixeira7853 No, his blood was divine. A mother can have a child with a different blood type. Yes, her placental blood nourished him in the womb, but Jesus’ blood is 100% divine, not half human, half divine. Well, I’m no scientist, but that is my understanding of blood.

@@rosemarybaxter9120..........Does the Holy Spirit have blood ??? Read Matt. 1 and Luke 1: 35.

Yes, that's exactly what Martin Luther and the other "reformers" did.

​@@richardditty5318reeeee Protestants reeeeee

And if you absorb the Catholic view you will win that debate.

Right? You notice how new age pantheism is starting to creep into American mega churches?

@@jamesperkins2552 Megachurches are temporary phenomena. They did not exist 50 years ago and will not exist 50 years from now.

@@bridgefin I hope you are right because right now mega churches are beginning to abandon the gospel of Christ in favor pantheism, Law of Atraction, prosperity gospel, etc. it’s identical to the teachings of new age and it’s absolutely leading people astray. I hope they do dissolve.

Prayerfully 🙏🏽and highly 🕊️recommend The Bible in a Year podcast with Father Mike Schmitz from Ascension Presents

@Jacob Posego total nonsense! You have an overactive imagination

Jesus told John to look after Mary simply because it's very possible she was a widow.

@Jacob Posego "We believe" and "Tradition", that's dangerous waters to trust your soul in. Better that you follow scripture rather than false teachings from as the man on the tape "scholars of old"....

1-3) All Christians subject themselves to one of four authority traditions under the Son of the Living God: Catholic/Eastern Orthodox, High Protestantism (Anglican/Lutheran, etc.,) American Christianity (Reformed, Non-Denominational, Evangelical), or their own private Opinion. Of all these "churches," only the Catholic Church has the spiritual and historical commission back to the Apostles and Jesus Christ. Private Opinion is condemned in 2nd Peter, and thus as an Athiest would say, you are a product of your religious environment. 2) The Bible and Infallible Judgement. It is a historical fact the official closed canon of Scripture came in the second half of the 4th Century (Councils of Hippo, Carthage, Rome.) If you grant Scripture is "the infallible" word of God, you must give the Church Bishops "infallible judgment" by the Holy Spirit that picked the specific books of the canon. You cannot have one without the other. If you reject the 73 book closed canon based upon the argument of Martin Luther, then you are rejecting a closed canon of nearly 1100 years. If you accept any non-Catholic translation such as the King James Version, you still must grand the men who compiled that translation infallible judgment, which directly refutes the Protestant Position. Secondly, what Bible translation do you use, and is it a good translation? An excellent argument for an English translation is the King James Version (but not 1611); however, the Douay Rheims is a better version translated over 41-42 years. Thus what version do you give authority to, and why, and do you grant "infallible" judgment to the translators. If you don't, then your translation is not safe. 3) The 60-second Position of the Church for Salvation is a confession of belief and baptism, then love the Lord Jesus and keep his commandments: (Acts 8: "Then Philip, opening his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached unto him, Jesus. [36] And as they went on their way, they came to a certain water; and the eunuch said: See, here is water: what doth hinder me from being baptized? [37] And Philip said: If thou believest with all thy heart, thou mayest. And he answering, said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. [38] And he commanded the chariot to stand still; and they went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch: and he baptized him. [39] And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord took away Philip; and the eunuch saw him no more." "If you love me, keep my commandments."

@Jacob Posegomost of this information is sadly not Biblical and no human being was ever perfect and all have sinned Romans 3:23 says, except Christ of course when He was on earth as a man. Mary was a wonderful example of a holy woman, disciple and blessed, but that does not make her mother of the Church. She bore Christ in her womb so yes she was very special but not sinless as she needed a saviour in Luke 1:47. God the Father and the Holy Spirit don't have an earthly Morher so she was the mother of Christ on earth only.

God made Adam and Eve without sin, but they were tempted by satan and fell. Genesis 3: 15 prophesies that there is enmity between the woman who will ' seed ' the Savior and satan.

@@veritasmuy2407..........Satan got his power from Eve's ' YES ; satan was powerless against Mary's ' YES.'

@@veritasmuy2407.......I tried to tell YOU that God sees Adam and Eve as ONE........bone of my bone, see Gen. 2: 23-25. God NEVER addresses Eve by the name Eve; to God they are ONE.......ADAM.

@@veritasmuy2407.........see Genesis 3:2, and note the word ' we.'

@@veritasmuy2407.........So.......YOU think that what Eve said in Genesis 3: 2 was a wild guess ??? Cool !!!

@@oswaldoalcantara3216 My friend I don't see the same that was passed on from the beginning that is the very core of Protestant belief. This is why some Protestants get hooked back to Catholicism because they think history diagrees with them. When Catholic start to read the Bible anew they start to see a discontinuity with what the church teaches and become Protestant. It is down to what authority you place on historic writings and your interpretation of them if you care to read all the volumes or rely on what I suspect most do is leave that interpretation to the church. The ultimate authority for me is Scripture not only because God inspired it but it is the actually words of Christ and his Apostles.

@@oswaldoalcantara3216 we don't have to take the word of one man. Just as the Bereans confirmed the words of Paul through the Scriptures, so too is Mike's words verifiable through Scripture.

@@oswaldoalcantara3216 prove to us

@@oswaldoalcantara3216 What are the sources of your claim? Any church fathers? If so, then which ones and where exactly did they say that?

@Asaph Vapor she was elevating Mary to an unhealthy level. Are you suggesting that no one believed what Catholics believed until 313 AD? Jesus had to show her how God's word did not elevate Mary but believers. Whoever believes in Jesus Christ is more blessed than Mary was.

@Asaph Vapor everyone should be following what Jesus taught in the first century.

@@nicolesexton2571 actually, Jesus Christ was elevating His Mother Mary, for Mary was more blessed by her obedience to God and faithfulness to Him, than any other mother, hence, Mary said of God, "He has regarded the humility of His handmaiden," she whom all generations shall call blessed. God bless you!

@@matthewbroderick8756 Seems we have a contradiction... When it's a decision between who is right Mary or Jesus then you can pick Mary, I am going to listen to Jesus. Thanks for the reply...

@@nicolesexton2571 i am going fo listen to Jesus Christ also! Mary is more blessed NOT for providing milk for her child, but for hearing the word of God and acting upon it, as Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit called Mary blessed among woman for her faith and obedience, this same Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit, felt unworthy in the presence of the mother of the Lord, for indeed, God regarded the humility of Mary and thus she alone was chosen to be mother of the Messiah. God bless you!

Except that Mike's teaching on this is equally false. So sad that it's easier to believe lies that actually do proper research.

@@shelleydonald4515 How so? What is false that Mike taught?

@@christian_gamer_guy6447 The fact that Mike Winger is unwilling to converse or debate a Catholic that knows their theology should be a huge red flag. It was for me. Dude says no new theology yet doesn't believe in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Also he doesn't believe in baptismal regeneration and history will prove that all early church fathers believed both of those things. Don't trust me or him. Look and study this stuff for yourself. May the Truth, the Way, and the Life guide you.

@@jon6car "The fact that Mike Winger is unwilling to converse or debate a Catholic that knows their theology should be a huge red flag." Whether or not Mike will or wont debate someone has no bearing on the truthfulness of either sides claims. I know enough about scripture and have enough discernment to know that the Catholic Church teaches false doctrine, and that it should be avoided.

@@christian_gamer_guy6447 I didn't say it had any bearing on how "true" what he or anyone else says. However it does reflect on how much they believe themselves to be right. The early Christians had no problem going to synagogues and debating Jews that didn't believe in Christ for they knew they had the truth on their side. You can see early christians outside the Bible debating pagans such as St. Justin Martyr and others. You're free to listen to whomever you like. And justify it however you like. I like the truth too much to gloss over a group because I'm afraid of what I might learn

Mary was God's choice to be the Holy Mother of the Savior of the world.......see Genesis 3: 15.

@@Michael-nb4ng nowhere in the bible does it even imply that mary was holy. She was most definitely blessed. But to elevate her to a status even above Jesus Christ is just crazy

Mary is the vessel that God chose to carry His Word Made Flesh = Jesus. See Exodus 25: 10-16, where the Ark was purified to carry His Word. Se also John 1:1.

@@Michael-nb4ng Once again and again and again the Ark of the Covenant and Mary are 2 completely different things. Does Mary still contain God's word? NO! Was Mary made by man? No! Was the Arc made by man? Yes! This I have explained to you many time and yet you hold onto myths and lies that makes you a fool.

So, what if God chose Mary and purified Her to seed His ' Word made Flesh ' as in Exodus 25: 10-16 ??? YOU inadvertently argue that Mary is even purer than the original Ark because She is God-made.@@stever4181

Jack, If the bible explains the bible then why are there some 40,000 Protestant denominations, all following only the bible and all unique in their understanding of the bible???? Shouldn't they all get the exact same message from the bible?

@@veritasmuy2407 You are off the point. Please don't try to evade the subject. We are not talking about Catholicism but about Protestants and their differing beliefs even though they all follow the bible which supposedly explains itself. So if the bible explains itself why can't Protestants get it right?

@@veritasmuy2407 You are evading as usual. You jumped in on my comment to Jack. The subject was the bible explains the bible. Either stick to the subject or we will just ignore you. Sound familiar?

@@veritasmuy2407 That's interpretation and not the bible explaining the bible. If you were right then we would be in agreement.

@@veritasmuy2407 The subject is whether the bible explains the bible. Do you think that it does or does not?

What duty are YOU talking about ???

@@Michael-nb4ng The whole "the two shall become one flesh" thing. If she never gave up her virginity she never fully became one with Joseph. We know Joseph lived at least until Jesus was 12 which means there was more then sufficient time for their marriage to be consummated. And for other children to be born to that union. To expect him to be purely his companion detracts from the virtue of marriage.

I meant yo expect him to be purely her companion.

@@emruth12............When Jesus was 12 yrs. old, both Mary and St. Joseph traveled to Jerusalem with Jesus; no mention of their ' other children ' being there or the stress Jesus's disappearance caused the siblings. See Deut. 30: 1-16 about vows to God; hence Mary being troubled by Gabriel's message to her about having a child in Luke 1: 26-38; for it would have been expected that a soon-to-be bride would have children.

The sexual life of Joseph & Mary is nobodies business but their own!@@emruth12

I first though about mario aswell

@@veritasmuy2407 I'm gonna tell you that the joke flew over your head

It's a me! Mary-O! the plummer... I mean mother of Jesus

Worship is to God, only; but anyone of faith can intercede for us........see John 2: 1-11, Matt. 8: 5-13, 9: 1-2, 18 etc........even our friends and families of faith.

@@veritasmuy2407...........See Christ's Transfiguration in Luke 9: 28-36 = necromancy ??? FYI.........the saints are alive = NOT DEAD !!!

@@veritasmuy2407........Jesus said ' FOLLOW ME ' about 13 times.

@@veritasmuy2407..........Jesus NEVER commanded His apostles to write a Bible nor did He EVER write anything Himself........actually Luke and Mark were not apostles. The exception is in Revelation/apocalypse/unveiling, where Jesus assures the imprisoned John of His protection of His Love/His Bride/His Church........see Rev.1: 19.

@@veritasmuy2407 Yes, Mary is totally dead. And currently does not no God. Because she's dead.

First, I am NOT Roman Catholic, but rather a seeker and follower of the truth. I don't want to jump into anyone's bandwagon, whether Protestant or Catholic, just because they might have a few valid points point are ignoring the major issues. That's the same as winning a few battles, but losing the war. With that said: 2 Thess 2:15, "so then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us." 2 Thess. 3:6, "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep aloof from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us." Two among others that clearly show the early Church had 'letters' (epistles) AND TRADITIONS which they used. Some of these 'traditions' were written down and discussed by the early Church Fathers in their letters. These presented a clearer picture of what the early Church was like, and it was nothing like the Protestant Church we see today. Mary was discussed in these early 'traditions' and by the Early Church Fathers. And what they believed, taught and passed down was accepted by the earliest Protestant, Martin Luther. He believed in some of the doctrines about Mary that you attempt to mock here. In fact, were Luther alive today, he would be considered a heretic by the majority of Protestant, especially Evangelical, Churches. He would be asked to kindly find another Church to attend. Because there was a lot that Paul DIDN'T write about. We know some of these by the same traditions that are mentioned in 2 Thessalonians, among other verses, in the Bible. They were well known and taught in the early Church and circulated by tradition. Today we have them, amazingly enough, in both the Roman Catholic AND Orthodox Churches, as well as other Churches started by the apostles and early evangelizers that were followers of Jesus. The further we get away from the Reformation, the further we get away from the teachings of the early Church. How do we explain that? It's explained by the fact that the Protestant Church threw away with its arrogance and Sola Scriptura teaching the traditions that the early Church had always held to be true. That's why today it has fractured into over 22,000 divided churches (each claiming to have the truth) and has been the host of cults such as Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, and more.

@@rafaelcarbone1387 I see traditions as being the gospel, ten commandment (OT) and salvation. Not rituals and worship of Mary.

@@starwarsisdead5731 Rafael sounds like a hypocrite to me, when you tell someone they are wrong Shame on you but when Rafael tells someone they are wrong it's Okay. The Bible clearly teaches against mans' traditions...

@@nicolesexton2571 The Bible clearly says to follow tradition learned from the apostles in 2 Thess. Don't be hypocrite about traditions anyway. Anytime you celebrate Christmas or Easter, you're following tradition. The early church never said to go by scripture alone--that was the new tradition the Reformation started.

*St. Irenaeus , successor of St. Polycarp successor of St. John the Apostle* The Word will become flesh, and the Son of God the son of man-the Pure One opening purely that pure womb, which generates men unto God. (Against Heresies, 4, 33, 12 [A.D.180-190]). Just as Eve, wife of Adam, yet still a virgin, became by her disobedience the cause of death for herself and the whole human race, so Mary, too, espoused yet a Virgin, became by her obedience the cause of salvation for herself and the whole human race.... And so it was that the knot of Eve's disobedience was loosed by Mary's obedience. For what the virgin Eve bound fast by her refusal to believe, this the Virgin Mary unbound by her belief. (Against Heresies 3, 32, 1 [A.D. 180-190]). Rylands Papyri Under your mercy we take refuge, O Mother of God. Do not reject our supplications in necessity, but deliver us from danger (Sub Tuum Praesidium, Egypt [A.D. 250]).

Yup, one more lie to send people to Hell.

@@bridgefin Do you know who goes to hell? Idolaters.

@@bridgefin butthurt state smoochers whining :D

@@bridgefin lol so a lie sends you to hell, well then that’s most of your pedo shuffle priests!

Have you heard of coliridianism?

You are on the right track. Queen of Heaven is a pagan title, in the Bible.

I think that statement is easy to misunderstand. It's not saying that only trough Mary you get to Jesus or that Mary created Jesus or anything like that, it's more like that Jesus being born of Mary wasn't some random thing but a part of the bigger picture.

@@newone5198 I certainly don’t disagree with that. She was foretold in Isaiah. However, because so much theology has been created around Mary, even the Greek word “theotokos” has been repurposed to be about *Mary*, when the intention was to describe the mystery of the *Son* being born of common flesh. It has - for all intents and purposes - turned the Gospel into a system that includes the person of Mary as central to the faith. She IS to be honored and called blessed among women, but millions go so far as to pray *to* her and hang the title of “co-redemtrix” over her head.

@@newone5198 that’s how serious the error is in the RCC.

Maybe, YOU don't understand God's Ways. Loving my mother doesn't lessen the love of my wife or my children or my friends or anyone else. Mary is the Mother of Jesus.......the firstborn of many........see Romans 8: 29; therefore She is the Mother of many.

@@miketeixeira7853 attack and spit like a snake at anyone…stop shouting!

@@miketeixeira7853 you 👉 psalm 52:2-5! …….nice statue of Molech erected in Rome open acknowledgement of your paganism! God said have nothing to do with this pagan, Lev. 18:21…….you Romanist always disobey God!

@@jesusfaith2232..........Why do YOU think that God hates pagans ??? Wasn't Abraham a pagan........see Joshua 24: 2-3.

So what about the Eucharist? Marion dogma is just something you pick out. Not every catholic or orthodox is into Marian dogmas. That’s a small amount intellect data that is Mary. All we do is ask her to pray for us. She the most close human to the lord

Mary is the Mother of Christ.....ALL OF HIM........HEAD AND BODY......HE THE HEAD AND WE THE BODY......see Ephesians 5: 23-27.

@@user-fq7cb8de3h no, she was not the mother of his eternal Being. She was the mother of His incarnation. She was the womb of Israel.

@@user-fq7cb8de3h Jesus's son of man and God. You claim his headship comes from his mother. The scripture clearly says that his father is his head. Your mother worshiping idolatry is of Jezebel and separates the children from the Father. Father God had the child with his people Israel. Mary was the chosen and honored vessel. She did not create God. How foolish.

@@danimal118 HUH !!! See John 19: 25-27.

Here's the scoop on St. Peter; Jesus changed his name in Matt. 16: 18........which indicates the father/papa/pope of a new people/nation........see Genesis 17: 5, 32: 28. Then, in John 10: 11, Jesus says, ' I am the Good Shepherd who lays down His life for the sheep; ' then in John 21: 15-19 & Luke 22: 32, Jesus asks Peter to feed/tend/and die for the sheep.......like the Good Shepherd........a job transfer to me. Jesus pays Peter's tax and was specifically messaged by an angel at the tomb in Mark 16: 7 & Matt. 17: 24-27.

@@veritasmuy2407..........See John 6: 67-70, where SIMON PETER answers Jesus on behalf of the Church when he says, " Lord, to whom shall WE go.........You have the words of everlasting life. WE have come to know and believe that You are the Holy One of God."

@@veritasmuy2407..........As Queen Mother, Mary has open access to the throne.......see 1 Kings 2: 19. Peter is one of the judges.........see Matt. 19: 28.

@@veritasmuy2407........With hundreds of wives and concubines = paganism.......see Genesis 2: 22-24, who would be queen ???

@@veritasmuy2407..........YOU may not want to believe that the queen-mother was important, but Adonijah KNEW so and approached Bathsheba ( not Solomon) in 1 Kings 2.

You do understand Jesus Christ fulfilled the Davidic Covenant promise and there was always a Queen Mother (1 Kings 15:13, 2 Kings 10:13, 2 Chronicles 15:16, Jeremiah 13:18, 29:2), right??? We pray for Queen Mary to intercede for us before the "King Son". Is it Biblical??? Absolutely. 1 Kings 2:19-20 and John 2:3-5 Queen Mary advocated for "King" Jesus to start His ministry on behalf of another. Now, you have never been taught Jesus Christ's basic mission or read Galatians 4:4-7??? What does Jesus Christ "born under the law to REDEEM THOSE WHO WERE UNDER THE LAW" and "adopted" mean??? If GOD is now our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ is our King Brother, then WHO LOGICALLY WOULD BE OUR HEAVENLY QUEEN MOTHER??? John 19:27 and Revelation 12:1-6. Ever read in CONTEXT of Mary "crowned" in Heaven what it says in Revelation 12:17??? What does "HER CHILDREN" indicate??? WHO'S children are we??? Got any pictures of your family??? Ever kiss a picture or image of your beloved family??? Do you ever ask your family to pray for you???

@@Peekaboo-Kitty Not entirely. You are looking at it from a European's and modernistic perspective, and not in the culture of Mediterranean and Middle East. Queen Mothers are like Royal Mothers, and that's what Mary is. Please carefully read the New Testament, especially Kings and Jeremiah. Also think about this. Mary bore Jesus, and that only happen with God giving her the child. Not that they had sexual relations or anything, God doesn't need to do that and nor he would do it. Because of this, Mary and God the Father are in partnership to bore Jesus. Wouldn't you call that a relationship in other terms? And far fetching it, but Mary is the Mother, and God is the Father... and Jesus is the Son. If Jesus is a King, what would it make Mary as? Queen Mother. The queen mother in Israel had a powerful influence in the kingdom. This power and authority flows from her status as Gebirah (queen mother) and not from her as a person. In Israel the queen mother preceded her son in existence, sometimes she would rule in his stead (Cf. 2 Kings 10:13: "We are kinsmen of Ahaziah," they replied. "We are going down to visit the princes and the family of the queen mother" and at times also abuse her authority. (Cf. 2 Jeremiah 13:18: "Say to the king and to the queen mother: come down from your throne.") Gebirah doesn't have the same exact meaning as Queen in a European or English sense. As Queen Mother Mary never rules in Christ's stead; she does not , command her Son, yet He is inclined to fulfill her wishes. Her authority in the kingdom is authentic but always dependent on the King. (Cf. John 2:5. 'Do whatever He tells you.') A queen mother played a significant role in the establishment of her son upon the throne. "This does not simply mean that she conveyed 'royal blood' as a result of her marriage to the king, his father. There were usually many possible heirs to the throne and it often happened that the least likely candidate (from a legal point of view it was the first-born who should have succeeded to the throne) became king." Because the king had many wives, he entrusted the education of his children to their mothers. She chose the heir to the throne and hence she was responsible for his reign and closely linked with the exercise of his kingship. Applied to Mary, we can observe that she too is closely related to Christ's kingship and her whole being is involved in the spread of His kingdom. In contrast to many of the queen mothers, Mary did not seek the throne for her Son because of any personal ambition. Her ministry was one of service, to the point of sacrificing her motherly rights for our sake. The queen mother of Israel interceded in behalf of the subjects of the kingdom. She was their most powerful, and therefore preferred, advocate. Her specific place of honor and intercession is dramatically illustrated in the following passage from 1 Kings 2: 13-21: "Adonijah, son of Haggith, went to Bathsheba. the mother of Solomon. "Do you come as a friend?" she asked. "Yes," he answered and added. "I have something to ask to you." She replied, "Say it." So he said, "There is one favor I would ask of you. Do not refuse me." And she said, "Speak on." He said, "Please ask King Solomon, who will not refuse you, to give me Abishag the Shunamite for my wife." "Very well," replied Bathsheba, "I will speak to the king for you." Then Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, and the king stood up to meet her and paid her homage. Then he sat down upon his throne, and a throne was provided for the king's mother, who sat at his right. "There is one small favor l would ask of you," she said. "Do not refuse me." "Ask It, my mother," the king said to her, "for I will not refuse you. So she said, "Let Abishag the Shunamite be given to your brother Adonijah for his wife." Mary's queenly function consists in interceding on our behalf. It is anchored in her early role as Mother of the Redeemer and Mother of the redeemed. John 2:5 "Do whatever He tells you" Why before this verse, Jesus asked her "O woman, what have you to do with me?" Asking as if she had the authority or the nerve, but in the end, Jesus did what Mary asked her. Isn't that quite amusing? Why would the Lord, our Savior, follow someone who is just a mere creature... unless He has special relations with that one. In this case, Mary wasn't just a mother who took care of Jesus while He was still an infant and kid, but it continued on till his adulthood. Mary was still a motherly figure to Jesus, and as such can be compared as a Queen Mother to a King. That is why Catholics (and not just Catholics, but Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran, Coptic, and other older churches) know, believe and view Mary as the Mother of God and Queen of Heaven.

@@Peekaboo-Kitty If you studied Judaism and read the Bible, then clearly you should know there are other mothers who are mentioned in the Bible, even one taking on their position as Queen Mother even to her grandson. Just because you studied something for a very long time doesn't mean you know everything, or scholarly attributed to that subject. Persian culture is different compared to Jewish culture. In addition, you didn't even mention other empires like that of Assyrian, Egypt and other African and Middle Eastern cultures. Yes, queen dowager and all, but they still had a position, and was able to direct their sons or advise them. That's why Queen Mothers are important, especially for those kings who have many wives. Why David's mother isn't mentioned? because God didn't chose her to help lead Israel, only David. Mary on the other hand is a different case. God directly talked to her through an angel. Naamah Micaiah Azubah Athaliah Jezebel among others Those are mothers of kings, who historically are called Queen Mothers, *Gebirah* . Yes, indeed marriages end after death, because we are all married to God in Heaven, but who says that family ties in terms of love won't exist between people? Actually, the even broader question is that, who says people in heaven do not take care of their loved ones who they left on Earth? Why do you think that your loved ones who have died won't pray for you, or watch over you? Isn't our Christian Church one whole big family? Who said Mary has authority over other Christians? Why is your mindset like that? Where does it say that Christians in Heaven, or souls in Heaven, cannot intercede for us, especially Mary? Actually, I wonder, do you only view Mary as some sort of vessel to carry Jesus in her womb? I thought God is all about love. Isn't love first primarily found in families? Aren't families usually and generally an example of an act of love? Why would God discard that aspect, when we are suppose to love one another? Would you just discard your own parents, especially someone who bore you? When we Catholics view her as Queen, it's because she is the mother of God, Jesus. Queen Mother. Just like a motherly figure, she took care and loved her Son, and because of that, she also loves us, as we are God's creatures. She isn't some dictator, who gives orders every time. She is a loving mother who loves everyone and takes care of everyone, just like how other souls in Heaven are doing. Her status as being Jesus's mother enhances her position. That is why Jesus gave her to us in such aspect. "Behold your mother" Who told you because she is "Queen" we are suppose to bow down and kiss her every time? Catholics don't do that and see her in that view. It's all about honor and respect. Your view of her as "Queen" doesn't coincide with what Catholics say she is as our Queen. Indeed God is our ultimate Lord and our only God, Mary is just a creature, but a revered and holy one, and we don't worship her. Only God is worshipped. Without her help, we wouldn't be able to attain salvation at all, especially we wouldn't be able to receive Jesus. Jesus's ministry started because of her at the Wedding of Cana. Jesus' life started because of her because she gave birth to Him in Bethlehem. Our salvation wouldn't be able to attained if it weren't for her saying *yes* to God to bore our Savior. Like I said, Mary is like a loving mother. Have you seen her stop Jesus from His ministry? No. In fact, she helped started His ministry, and followed Him through His life, even after death and resurrection. Like I said, this view of Mary being a holy and revered creature is exemplified and exists in old apostolic Christian groups, not just the Catholic Church. Early Christians view her as such too. If you believe in Bible alone, yet you explore history, you'll be contradicting yourself. God Bless.

​@@Peekaboo-Kitty Just saying, if you clearly know the Old Testament than I do, then you should know all the mothers of kings mentioned in Scripture, yet you say there are no other such people apart from Bathsheba? alright. Not saying I'm I'm a scholar myself, cuz I'm not.

@@Peekaboo-Kitty You didn't read what I said. There were mother of kings in the Old Testament, hence Queen Mothers. I gave you a short list with no bible verses, but clearly you didn't see such people while studying the OT, especially in Kings, Chronicles, and Jeremiah

@guyslogic777 Not everything true that is associated with salvation is specifically in the Bible. To take the Fundamentalist view that the Bible is the complete Word is theologically wrong, misleading, confuses people, and false doctrine. In fact, Jesus Himself said and did many things that were not recorded....the Gospels themselves say that. And the truths of Mary's Assumption, Immaculate Conception, and perpetual virginity are not in the Bible, but are yet spiritual and theological truths. In fact, the Apostle John was given a vision IN the Bible (Rev: 12:1) showing Mary''s glory in Heaven.

What is the difference between Catholicism and Protestantism ? Protestantism is a religious philosophy - a hearer and not doer of the Word thus deceiving themselves - James 1:22. While there is belief in Christ to be sure, there is no substance, no forms of worship and thanksgiving to our God Jesus for His - WORKS - of creation and redemption. There is no Confession as per the formula that Jesus gave on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead , when He - empowered - His Apostles to forgive sins - or - retain them- John 20:22-23. There is no participation in Holy Communion which Jesus declared was - Real Food and Drink - for ETERNAL LIFE - John 6:53-58. Even their churches have no kneelers to kneel and bow down before our God and Maker. And there is no difference between Protestant marriage and - easy - divorce and non-Christian ones. Protestants believe Jesus is a " magical God-Father " who is only there to forgive them all sins and to usher them into Heaven without any action on their part. They ignore that Jesus " executed " the couple Ananias and Sapphira from the 1st Christian - Faith - community for just dishonesty and lying - Acts 5. And this was shortly after He ascended into Heaven. And that Jesus threatened to vomit out the Laodicean church just for being lukewarm - Revelation 3. That this is the same God that dealt so angrily with the OT people for their sins, even sending them to a 70 year Babylonian exile. That this is the same God who declared that - MORE - is expected of Christians to whom much has been entrusted - Luke 12:48 - because we have the perfect example - Jesus. Fact is that there are 2 versions of Jesus = the Protestant version - and - the Catholic Biblical version. God is able to do all things. Jesus could have remained in Heaven and forgiven our sins, opened Heaven's gates to all, and did not have to come down to earth and live as one of us and die a cruel death. However, God goes to = extremes = to prove His love for us. But God has - expectations - and requires - More - from Christians because we have the perfect example of Jesus - Luke 12:48 From God's Expectations, Commandments and Testing come our guarantee of - eternal - salvation and Heavenly rewards. Jesus defined a Christian - Must take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - Matthew 16:24. Jesus fasted - superhumanly - 40 days/nights. He dismissed Satan who mocked Him for fasting when He could have all the bread to eat - Matt. 4. Jesus dismissed Satan because Christianity is the way of the Cross Later, Jesus rebuked Peter as Satan when Peter tried to dissuade Jesus from His path of sufferings and death.- Matthew 16:23. And Jesus did not take the sour wine offered to Him whilst on the Cross to deaden the pain. Moreover, Jesus did a World of Works - John 21:25. Even Paul, like a faithful Christian= boasted =of the Cross -Galatians 6:14 Christian Rule of Thumb is that if anything is hard/difficult, it is from God. On the other hand, if it is -easy - it is not from God The fact is that there are Catholics who leave the Faith because they say it has too many rules and regulations. Of course, they don't realize it is that rules and regulations are like Commandments which were God-issued so that these create a - safe - boundary beyond which the devil, like a roaring lion, is prowling about seeking to devour. Yet, Protestantism has no rules and regulations, no requirements and only promotes - Easy - Christianity and cheap Grace. List of - Hard - Facts == Commandments = Love God and Neighbour, including Enemies = God's Testing = Strive to enter Heavenly narrow gates for Few will enter - Mat. 7:14 & Luke 13:23-24 = Confess to another - John 20:22-23 = Eat My Flesh, drink My Blood - Real Food and Drink- for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58 + Partake of Holy Communion, worthily - 1 Cor. 11:26-27 =Jesus' Parables requiring the multiplication of Talents, becoming more fruitful "soil," wise "virgins" carrying oil, etc.= Vengeance is Mine, I will repay; = Fasting, Prayer and Almsgiving - Rewarded by the Father who sees in secret - Matthew 6. = Jesus urged the necessity of praying always - Luke 18:1. Thus Catholics have adopted the responsibility of praying for others, just as Jesus urged Peter to pray and thereby strengthen the others - Luke 22:32. List of - Easy - Facts == With Faith alone, one is saved by Grace and name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, never to be erased = God's Commandments and Testing have been overtaken by Jesus' sacrifice and covered with His Precious Blood. Moreover all sin debt - past, present and future - has been paid in full. Thus the Guarantee - Absent in the Flesh, present with the Lord, forever = The 4 Gospels were meant for the - lost - people of Israel. Now there is a new covenant in the Blood of the Lamb which means - Once Saved, Forever Saved = Works are unnecessary for Salvation and are boastful = And Christian Marriages that end in - easy - divorce and remarriages. (( End of Part 1. Note that Part 2 is continued below ))

Part 2 What is the Gospel Message ?? The 4 books of the Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are titled - The Gospel - according to Matthew / Mark / Luke / John. This was the same Gospel message revealed to Paul by Jesus - Galatians 1:12 - which reflected the Teachings and Doings of Jesus and which Paul proclaimed - verbally - on his missionary journeys. Later on, after Paul had received reports from faithful and trustworthy members, he sent out letters to the churches he had established to commend them or to correct them and even provide more insight and clarification. The Bible titles these letters as - Epistles - to the various churches of Corinth, Philippi, etc. Thus, these Epistles were Paul's means of keeping in touch with, as well as providing a Review/Report of the status of the churches he wrote to and to whom he had previously preached - verbally - the Gospel. Besides, 2 of Paul's letters have gone missing - see 1 Cor. 5:9 and Col. 4:16 Common sense would therefore dictate that we place our doctrines and belief systems first and foremost on these Gospels, and keep everything else secondary. This is because our Salvation is the most important question we will ever face. It is thus obvious that these Epistles are way-down secondary to the 4 Gospels which Jesus brought from the Heavenly Father's = Authority, Mind and Heart = for our Salvation. Sadly, Protestants have based their - Doctrines - and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles - instead - of the 4 Gospels. They have created doctrines that require no Confession as per Jesus' formula, denial of the - Real Presence - of Jesus in Holy Communion, and also deny the need for Good Works despite that the Great Judgement is based on Works - Matthew 25. By declaring that only Faith is necessary for Salvation, they have effectively cancelled the Cross - the very symbol of Christianity. Yet even Paul, like a faithful Christian, boasted of the Cross -Galatians 6:14, Question = Will Protestants be raptured ? Will they be saved.?

@@loboman8029 A well-written reply, loboman....and again, mostly adequate. Protestants, take note. The only thing I would add is, though, is that not all Protestant Marriages and divorces are easy ones. A number of Fundamentalist denominations, honoring the words of Christ, will not recognize divorce and re-marriage.

@@loboman8029 Very well-written, loboman....and mostly accurate.

Praise God that your heart was open to His Truths!!!

Don't he's wrong is much of his lecture.

You should really read the Church Fathers, they are the early Christians who were formed by Christ, and the apostles. When you read them - the source - you receive a message that would sound very Catholic.

¡Dios te bendiga!

@One for all , We see throughout the course of history what is of GOD (ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH) versus what is of "man" or NOT OF GOD (35,000 and growing Protestant divisions all stemming from a 1500's "man" Martin Luther). Who absolutely loves division??? Satan just laughs and laughs as Protestants continue to divide over the self contradictory false teaching "Bible Alone" found absolutely no where in the Bible. Satan becomes gleeful when a self righteous Protestant either ignorantly or purposely attacks the ONE and ONLY established Church of Jesus Christ being the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. Who absolutely loves unity and died for it??? John 17:21-23. Jesus Christ established ONE CHURCH, prayed and died for what??? Which ONE CHURCH that can "prove it" historically and Biblically???

I think you might be misunderstanding what typology is. A type is not merely a picture or analogy. Types are events, rituals, or people from the OT that anticipate Christ and his work in some way (the sacrificial Passover lamb whose blood covers us and causes judgement to pass us by, for example, is a type of Christ). A three-legged stool is not a type of the Trinity because it doesn't appear in Scripture at all. It's just an analogy meant to help you understand the Trinity (though not a particularly good one).

Kodak instamatic?! Showing your age there Dave 😄

@@doug1863 I think you meant MavMin. I wasn't the OP who referenced the Kodak Instamatic

I would say that there is a tendency in that group to overdo the typology. I think if they said "analogy" or "parallel thought" it would be better. There are valid types, but one should be circumspect in dealing with them.

Here is a better analogy: It takes electron , proton & neutron to make atom, It takes Father, Son, Holy Spirit to make God@@survivordave

was the apostle paul aware of the mariology of the catholic church?

@@bobpolo2964 you'd need to be more specific. Even then, I am not sure what this question accomplishes. Was Paul aware of the 27 book New Testament canon? Did he understand the teachings of the book of Revelation? How about interpersonal relationships in the Trinity? Clearly, the fact that Paul died before the entire New Testament was written, would make it reasonable and logical to say that there were several truths that Paul either was not aware of or did not understand fully. Would you like to address the point in my comment, that Mike portrayed the beliefs of the Catholic Churc about Mary, specifically that she is the Ark of the New Covenant and the New Eve, as relatively modern developments and not as ancient beliefs held by Christians?

@@franciscanfireworks7867 I addressed your comment with my question. The guy who has the most writings in the NT and the foundational teaching for the church said nothing about mary. Those ancient beliefs must be measured against something unchangeable and verifiable. Thus, Scripture

@@bobpolo2964 Did scripture change after the death of Paul?

@@bobpolo2964 Also, Paul might have written the most books of the NT, but he did not write the majority of the NT that distinction goes to Luke.

Wow! That's an incredible testimony! Praise God that He brought you out of that! God bless!

Like Paul said, we all see dimly. Maybe a paraphrase but ok. Frankly, if our salvation depended on us perfectly understanding scripture, no one would make it.

WarmPotato Because In Genesis God says that the savior will come through a woman. Just because Mary is the new Eve doesn’t mean that she is more important to Jesus, she still submitted to his will as Eve did to Adam.

FaithHopeGrace Co Redemptrix is a theory not a dogma. Never been declare by the church as of my knowledge.

@@mikes.8120 And then also section III paragraph 60 places Mary in a co-mediator role while trying to still define Jesus as the one Mediator.

Ugh, typologies work through their similarities, not because they are one-to-one correlations. You could likewise ask why Jesus wasn't one year old like the sacrificial lambs he was fulfilling. Equally irrelevant.

Jesus is the New Adam, Mary is the New Eve, the Catholic Church is the New Israel, and the Mass is the New Passover.

Bodily assumption, given Enoch or Elishia, is not outside contemplation, but is not part of our revelation.

Yea, sad thing that Scott Hahn follows how the Church Fathers understood Scrpitures and not some non-sense from the last two centuries.

@@ghostapostle7225 Is the Typology of Luke Paralleling Samuel revealing Mary as the New Ark of the Covenant just a Coincidence? btw: The same thing can be done for Mary as the New Eve when John parallels Genesis. (1) SAMUEL: David TRAVELED with the Ark to the Hill Country of Judea LUKE: Mary TRAVELED to the Hill Country of Judea (2) SAMUEL: How can the Ark of the Lord ever COME TO ME? LUKE: Why is this granted that the Mother of my Lord should COME TO ME? (3) SAMUEL: David proclaims his unworthiness to receive the Ark LUKE: Elizabeth proclaims her unworthiness to receive Mary (4) SAMUEL: David SHOUTS in the PRESENCE of the Ark LUKE: Elizabeth exclaims in a LOUD CRY in the PRESENCE of Mary (5) SAMUEL: David DANCED in the presence of the Ark LUKE: John the Baptist LEAPED in the presence of Mary’s womb (6) SAMUEL: Obed-Edom’s HOUSE was "BLESSED BY THE PRESENCE" of the Ark LUKE: Elizabeth's HOUSE was "BLESSED BY THE PRESENCE" of God in Mary's womb (7) SAMUEL: The Ark Remained in Obed-Edom’s HOUSE for THREE MONTHS LUKE: Mary Remained in Elizabeth’s HOUSE for THREE MONTHS (8.) SAMUEL: The Ark Returns home to the Temple in Jerusalem LUKE: Mary Returns home and goes to the Temple in Jerusalem (9) SAMUEL: I will celebrate before the Lord LUKE: My spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior (10) SAMUEL: I will be Humble in my own eyes LUKE: He has regarded the Humility of His handmaid (11) SAMUEL: I will be held in honor before the slave girls LUKE: All generations shall call me Blessed

Han had bad theology before and after catholic what did you expect 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@ghostapostle7225 You and Scott Hahn should go and study the early Church Fathers before making such RCC propagandist statements. The Church Fathers already differed from the Bishop of Rome in the +- 180 AD. Problems started early in Rome when some of them (Bishops) wanted to become Papa/ Pope - and especially the main culprit being after succeeding St. Eleutherius in 189 AD in Rome, (St) Victor 1 tried to assert Roman (that is the Roman bishop's) authority in the early Christian church. Most notably, he tried to sanction the Roman date for Easter over that celebrated by the Quartodeciman of Asia Minor, who kept the holiday on 14 Nisan rather than on the following Sunday. His attempts were rejected by the other bishops. Still, Victor’s threat was reputedly the first papal act to influence the ecclesiastical affairs of the Eastern patriarchs.Thereupon Victor, who presided over the church at Rome, immediately attempted to cut off from the common unity the parishes of all Asia(?!), with the churches that agreed with them, as heterodox; and he wrote letters and declared all the brethren there wholly excommunicate” (Life of Constantine, ch. XXIV). But the practice continued with the Asiatic churches, and in the year 325ad at the Council of Nicea, those who were faithful to the Quartodeciman Passover were declared anathema for holding on to the customs handed down by the Apostles themselves to Polycarp?! Here we see how the first EVIL roots of Papal positional power-hunger resulted in calling the faithful under st Polycarp, Bishop of Smyrna, heretics! So you are saying based on the atrocities and bad theology of bishop (Pope) Victor 1 that the Roman branch of the Catholic Christian faith is the (only) true church? What st Cyprian bishop of Carthage, said in 250 AD: "a great many bishops from the provinces of Africa, Numidia, and Mauritania, had met together at Carthage, together with the presbyters and deacons, and a considerable part of the congregation who were also present ... For neither does any of us set himself up as a bishop of bishops, nor by tyrannical terror does any compel his colleague to the necessity of obedience; since every bishop, according to the allowance of his liberty and power, has his own proper right of judgment, and can no more be judged by another than he himself can judge another. (The Seventh Council of Carthage Under Cyprian, The Judgment of Eighty-Seven Bishops on the Baptism of Heretics, 250 AD). So we see this Papacy positioning was still a custom not acceptable in the early church by this COUNCIL. PLEASE indicate which early "Church Fathers" are you speaking of? Clearly history indicates that the RCC propaganda is not supported... or do you have some mystic knowledge??

@@Fxrichardsagainst heresies book 3 ch3

in that case, you might as well ditch the trinity as its found nowhere in the bible.

@@myrhh2260 is the trinity not the Bible what do u think ..

@@myrhh2260 I can show the trinity starting Genesis 1

@@maureendakhoul9733 go ahead

@@myrhh2260 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

Maybe Satan didn't want you to follow Jesus and is was him speaking and not God. Jesus does not go to the Lord on your behalf in confession. Jesus is working through the priest. Jesus forgives sins based on your repentance and he does it through the priest. And if you are OK with asking other people to pray for you and your family then you should have no problem doing the same by praying (aka asking) to Mary to do the same.

@@bridgefin You: "Jesus does not go to the Lord on your behalf in confession. " Jesus told us to go directly to God. He also told us, “The tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other.” (Luke 18:13-14) I acknowledged my sin to you, and I did not cover my iniquity; I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord,” and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. (Psalm 32:5) "No one comes to the Father except through Me." " “there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus"! (1 Timothy 2:5) Perhaps Satan is telling you that you are right but God's word say, *You're Wrong!*

@@stever4181 You: Jesus told us to go directly to God. Me: John 20:23 says he gave that power to the apostles. You: “The tax collector, standing far off, Me: This was a parable which was before the apostles had the power. And the teaching is about humility and not the method of repentance. Whether one goes to a priest or not one always must be repentant before God. You: Perhaps Satan is telling you that you are right but God's word say, You're Wrong! Me: You say that while rejecting what Jesus said.

@@bridgefin You: "John 20:23 says he gave that power to the apostles." Me: This verse does not give authority to the Apostles or Christians to forgive sins. Jesus is saying that the Apostles and believers can boldly declare the certainty of the sinner's forgiveness by the Father because of the work of the Son if the sinners have repented and believed the gospel. You: "You say that while rejecting what Jesus said." Me: Go back and reread my comment. I put down what Jesus said! Jesus did not say 2 different things it is obvious that you only read what you want and ignore the rest. You really need to at least try to understand what scriptures say instead of just repeating blindly what your told.

@@stever4181 You: This verse does not give authority to the Apostles or Christians to forgive sins John 20:22: And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. 23 Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” Is English your first language? Whose sins YOU FORGIVE are forgiven them. He is speaking to the apostles. They are the "YOU" According to the grammar, the YOU forgives the sin. You: Jesus is saying that the Apostles and believers can boldly declare the certainty of the sinner's forgiveness by the Father because of the work of the Son if the sinners have repented and believed the gospel. Me: That is laughable. Someone hands you a Wagyu steak to grill and you turn it into corn flakes. Nothing you said came from that Scripture. Talk about adding to Scripture that is a classic.

Catholics do believe that Christ's dying on the Cross as the Lamb of God has saved all mankind. However, Christ did not come as a man and head straight to Calvary; He came through Mary as prophesied in Matt. 1: 22-23. He lived among us, was held/touched/kissed/mocked/beaten/betrayed/crown with thorns/and finally crucified. Catholics believe that the entire life of Christ, from the visitation of the angel Gabriel to the Cross is vital to us......each event/each parable/each teaching/each miracle/each encounter with Christ can help us to reach heaven. So, we take His Words, ' Follow Me ' seriously........each step with Him leading to heaven.

@@miketeixeira7853 what you say is very true and traditional Catholicism is beautiful. However, there is no denying the doctrines of Rome, surrounding Mary, are not Biblical. For me, personally, that was the show stopper. What I absolutely love about Catholicism is that worship, mindfulness about and veneration of the Triune Godhead, is a way of life. But inserting Mary between us and Christ, or asking the earthly-deceased saints to pray for us, is where there is a straying from the direct teachings of Christ. I understand that the church says that these things have always been taught, but even Church scholars like Fr. Pacwa acknowledge that doctrines developed over time. Anything between us and Christ, does not belong.

@@miketeixeira7853 God bless you, sir, and thank you for your gentle reply. It is good of you to even be here and listen to Mike Winger. I continue to seriously studying Catholic theology, and I too, love Catholic people, but the Marion doctrines lead one astray, especially when taken to extremes.

It was God Himself who added Mary to His plan. He could have created Christ like He did Adam; but no....He chose Mary to "seed " His Son. I am grateful that Mary said YES to His Will, so I call Her BLESSED........as is written in Luke 1: 48........no apologies.

@@miketeixeira7853 Ok, first of all, Jesus wasn't created by God, He is God. Jesus existed before Mary. Jesus doesn't need Mary to exist. Jesus knew Mary was going to say yes to God's calling for her so he chose her. Mary isn't needed to get to Jesus, that's just ridiculous. Mary is just a human.

Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit.......see Luke 1: 35.

No catholic on the face of the earth thinks mary is a divine wife

@@veritasmuy2407..........Jesus = God's Word made flesh.....see John 1: 1.

@@miketeixeira7853 do you think she had intercourse with the Holy Spirit?

@@ssv7195.........No !!! God does not need intercourse to create; Adam and Eve were created just fine by His Word/Spirit.

Don't confuse prayers of worship with prayers of intercession; for we can ask anyone to pray/intercede for us, but we can't ask anyone to worship for us. For example, the Roman centurion in Matt. 8: 5-10 interceded for his servant; but God is worshiped in the Psalms

@@miketeixeira7853 Mary is dead. Jesus is your mediator. No one comes to the father except through me.

@@fancyphantom8103.........See John 11: 25.

@@miketeixeira7853 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; John 11:25 And?

@@fancyphantom8103.........Believe Jesus.

If typology fit perfectly. If he applies the same standard to Jesus. David, Moses, Aaron and so on can't be types of Christ.

No no. The difference is the scriptures explicitly give the basis for typology applied to Christ. Multiple NT epistles explain Christ has the antitype, and many OT persons as types. No where does the scriptures give us the indication we should apply typology or look for typology according to Mary. So yes, we can apply different rules, because there is no basis for Mary typology in the scriptures. No apostles give any indication that we should start using typology on Mary. But they DO with Jesus.

@@mattwebb563 Are these Parallels on the Mary as the New Ark of the Covenant just a coincidence? The same thing can be done as Mary the New Eve. The (7) Parallel Scriptures below demonstrates how Mary’s visit to Elizabeth "Parallels" David’s bringing of the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem. Luke parallels Mary with Samuel's Ark of the Covenant as they both bring God home to the Temple in Jerusalem. (1) The Ark traveled to the Hill Country of Judea (2 SAM 6:1-11) Virgin Mary travel to the Hill Country of Judea (Luke 1:39) (2) The Ark remained for 3 months (2 SAM 6:11) Mary remained for 3 months (Luke 1:56) (3) David leaps in the presence of the Ark (2 SAM 6:14) John leaps in the presence of Jesus in Mary’s womb (Luke 1:41) (4) David shouts in the presence of the Ark (2 SAM 6:15) Elizabeth exclaims loudly in the presence in a of Mary (Luke 1:42) (5) How can the Ark of the Lord ever come to me? (2 SAM 6:9) Mary, the Mother of my Lord ever come to me? (Luke 1:43) (6) The House was blessed by the presence of the Ark (2 SAM 6:11) Elizabeth's House was blessed by the presence in Mary's womb (Luke 1:39-45) (7) The Ark returns home and goes to the Temple in Jerusalem. (2 SAM 6:12) Mary returns home and goes to the Temple in Jerusalem. (Luke 1:56; 2:21-22)

Anna Pennrose Did you watch the video? He specifically addresses all of that in great detail and debunks it. The comment section is for FURTHER discussion. Not to rehash what the video already said. It’s a jumbled and misrepresented parallel. ALSO, even if it was a perfect parallel, (which it isn’t because the timeline of Samuel is being moved around to suit your needs), it doesn’t justify creating non explicit theology. A type never created new theology, it simply is a picture. That’s all. A biblical metaphor. You are using metaphors to prove theology that isn’t in the Bible. I have no issue even if you were right about that parallel. My issue comes when these metaphors are being used to say Mary was sinless (neversaid in scripture), that she was permanently a virgin (never stated in scripture), that she never died (never stated in scripture). It’s just assumptions made on strung together types. We don’t string metaphors together for Jesus. We use the ones provided to us by the NT writers and Jesus himself. So yes. It’s a coincidence. The Bible is massive. I can draw parallels between a lot of things. The ones we SHOULD USE are the ones the NT writers point out.

@@mattwebb563 That is my point, he made a comment in the video that made it OBVIOUS he does not know very much about typology. That is why I used the Jesus - Adam analogy to show him how he was wrong. He thinks they have to be the same in every manner. They don't! The prefigure is a shadow of what is to come.

@Jacob Posego It sounds like Catholic doctrine is based on conjecture and speculation when the scriptures are silent on an explicit explanation. This passage in particular does not make your interpretation explicit but rather your drawing conclusions based on hypothetical guesses.

you need to admit you don't understand the issues. no Catholic has EVER taught such a thing. however as we sinners pray for each other (even protestants do) then how much better that we also ask the All Holy Virgin to intercede for us. Christians have been doing that since the First Century. would you be offended if people honoured and loved your mother? you think you are a better child then the Lord Jesus is to His beloved Mother? ***Ave Maria***

@@marcokite is Mary considered the mediatrix of all graces?

For example, all the Baptists who think Israel needs to be strong for Jesus to come, even though he’s already here? Just admit it, guys. You don’t think Jesus is enough.

@@unitewithch She is the mediatrix of all graces because she is the Ark of the Covenant of the NT, NT Gebirah/Queen mother, Woman of Revelation, and the Daughter of Zion. Now is the false sola scriptura doctrine in Tradition and scriptures?

All titles of the Blessed Virgin Mary does not undermine the Divinity of Jesus. Only false sola scriptura doctrine and Mike winger heresy

@@alfray1072 if you actually read the NT, you will not find any glorification of Mary, however like I said she is special in that she was chosen by the Father to be the human mother of Jesus. The catholic church is gradually replacing Jesus with Mary. Mary is the person people are honoring more then Jesus. This is idolitery. What do the commandments say about idolitery

@@joycesavage2629 The only idolatry is your prosperity gospel, televangelism, rock and roll entertainment gospel and naming your defacto bible cover from a biseksual tyrant king of England named king james now queen james ghay bible. 2nd, The NT Canon is Catholic ! The Canon of Scriptures (holy bible) is Catholic. Intercessory prayers are instructed by St. Paul in 1 TIMOTHY 2:1. What does EPHESIANS 6:18 says? MAKING SUPPLICATION FOR ALL THE SAINTS ! Mary is not just a saint, she is the Ark of the New Covenant, The NT Gebirah/Queen Mother, Daughter of Zion and the woman of revelation that is why we pray for her protection and intercession. SUPPLICATION (DEFINITION) - The action of asking or begging for something earnestly or humbly. EPHESIANS 6:18 Praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, LUKE 1:28 HAIL FULL OF GRACE ROMANS 16:6 Salute Mary, who hath laboured much among you. Saints and angels in heaven interceding for us in REVELATION 4, 5, 6, 8. "Mediator" is Christ alone in one sense. As intercessors all members are " mediators". according to Catholicism and Scripture: 1 - The Church is the body of Christ 2 - There is only one body of Christ, not one on earth and another one in heaven. 3 - Death does not separate the members of the body. 4 - Christians are bound by the Law of Christ to love and pray for one another.

@@alfray1072 you’re looking at false Christians and claiming that they speak for all Protestants. I can easily point out the homosexuality and child abuse rampant within the Roman Catholic Church and say you condone that. True believers in the Lord Jesus Christ disavow false gospels, whether it be the prosperity gospel or the works based gospel preached by Rome

@@SincerelyHannah9 The church and its offices are infallible not the clergy. A person being a bishop, priest or a pope does not make them perfect or divine and that does not guarantee them heaven. We believe in faith and good works not false faith alone heretical doctrine. Sex abuse in the protestant-baptist world are also rampant that is why when someone gets caught, so goes their cult or sect, this proves that they are not a true church. Now why would you name your defacto bible from a biseksual tyrant king of England named king james?

How does one teach a child about any conception ??? As a child, knowing that Mary was the Mother of Jesus was enough for me.

YOU: The thing that turned me away from the Catholic church was the claim that the Pope was infallible and the top to bottom hierarchy *ME: Yep, the Roman hierarchy contradicts the words of Jesus and the Apostles -- Jesus said no man is to be your spiritual "pope/papa/father" who claims to have God's infallible truth -- Matthew 23:9 (1John **2:27**)* -- and Jesus said that no man is to act as a "lord/boss" with authority over the people of GOD because that is the system of authority of the pagan gentile kingdoms -- Matthew 20:25-26 (1Peter 5:3).

@@Michael-nb4ng The physical Jesus was created using a descendant of King David's egg/womb by the Holy Spirit process called "overshadowing" -- see Luke 1:32,35 -- this is the same Holy Spirit creative process that created this physical universe out of the Void in Genesis 1:1-2.

​@Beanie Bear Let me address the later of your objections. There is a Greek grammatical argument that is well-documented concerning the "until" language. Just because the text says something hadn't happened "until" does not mean in that language setting that it happened afterward. It's a bit foreign to English-speakers of today. It's saying "up to that point" this was true of her. It's not saying it wasn't true after that point at all. I don't suppose Mary was expecting to be the God-bearer, so her plans to be married and all that entailed (if she had any say in the matter in the first place given marriage practices at the time) were changed at the annunciation. And she of course gave her consent: "Let everything you have said about me come true." I don't claim to know enough about the Adelphos argument to adequately address or articulate it. I will say that it wasn't unheard of to use that word to describe multiple different familial relations such as cousin. www.pseudepigraph.us/2016/08/09/translated-francis-piepers-footnotes-on-the-perpetual-virginity-of-mary/ this short article is pretty decent, if you're interested. I believe it is according to historical rabbinic thought that the Torah commands children to take care of their parents- especially as they age; day-by-day, meal-by-meal. I don't think the role of caretaker is ever prescribed to someone who is not family. I don't know whether or not a first-born could do whatever he wanted in that respect, "probably not" would be my assertion. I hope this answers your questions all right. I always like to learn about this type of stuff.

@Beanie Bear That's pretty neat you were able to live with Orthodox Jews! Learning more about Jewish practice around the first century (which I can imagine has changed in some significant ways since then) aided my recent transition to Lutheranism. Ultimately I have Luther's take that this is a pious opinion, but I hold the witness of the early Christian church in high regard, so I prefer to go with semper virgo. To me this position guards more closely and makes more compelling the virgin birth as it is integral to Christian belief. I appreciate your time!

@Beanie Bear As do I! I was reformed baptist. I took a long, hard look at Roman Catholicism and stuck with my evangelical roots (sola fide) but adopted the catholicity of my Christian faith through Lutheranism. Actually this Scott Hahn fellow is the reason I looked at Roman Catholicism in the first place. He and his colleagues convinced me of quite a bit with scripture. But ultimately Jewish liturgical tradition from the first-century, typology and the church fathers along with scripture demonstrated to me that my view of the sacraments wasn't right as a baptist, so here I am.

Men obsessed with the state of a woman's vagina, LOL! How is this not a Sin thinking about Mary's private parts?

@@holycow611 --- Who's comment are you referring to?

Here is the problem. You would rather believe in what “Mike” says, rather than what The Church that Jesus founded..

@johnsteila6049 no, that's definitely not a problem for me 🙂 I'm very grateful that I have a genuine hunger for the truth, whatever that might be 🙏🏼

@@elizabethryan2217 May God bless you. I simply warn against trusting too much in preachers, and not enough in Jesus.:)

@@johnsteila6049 agreed - it's always important to keep that at top priority. God bless 🙂🙏🏼

@@johnsteila6049 The Church that Jesus Founded is his body of saved believers . and they believe what the scriptures say which is what God says , when he wrote to his Church of saved believers , you talk like Jesus founded the apostate false church which is the catholic church with it`s false Gospel of work base salvation . and unbiblical dogmas .

When did this man become the infallible go to when we have a disagreement? Matthew 18 says different.

This guy does not understand Catholicism so it cannot be excellent anything.

@@bridgefin That's what they all say.

@@drivesmecrazy1000 I know the subject and he doesn't. He can put together enough pretty words to excite the believers in his error and the sheep will follow him....right off the cliff.

@FaithHopeGrace Grow up. You have something to say, then say it. I am not chasing you all over. I know Catholic teachings and I always answer your heretical demeaning comments to me and your total disrespect for Jesus. Make a point of copy and paste what you are talking about. Other wise you are just adding more personal attack to your pathetic judgment.

Guess again. He would have been thrown out of the early church as a heretic.

@@bridgefin even pagans such as the roman institution has heretics. So he would still be a follower of Jesus Christ and not your cannanite goddess

​@@bridgefinlol. The early roman church would've killed him for being a real follower of CHIRST. Catholics dont like that thing called sound biblical doctrine. The bible has never been a roman Catholics friend. Maybe read one someday.

Mary crushed the head of satan when She said ' Yes ' to God's Will.

@@Michael-nb4ng *Roman Catholics changed Gen **3:15** from a "He"(referring to Jesus) to a "she" (referring to Mary) to create a Roman pagan doctrine of New Eve and other pagan doctrines.* *It was Jesus who crushed the serpent's head. Not Mary. Cite me one instance "Mary crushed the serpent's head"? Chap verse?* Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."

@@Michael-nb4ng *How does saying "yes" crushed Satan's head ROman pagan?*

@@Michael-nb4ng *You are honoring man instead of God.*

You want God's rules made according to your wishes?

@Beanie Bear You're being ridiculous. If I am taking care of my old mother, and I know I am going to die, it doesn't matter that my brothers aren't Christian there is no way in hell I can just leave her to the responsibility of Christians rather than my siblings. Jesus' "brothers"(for sake of argument) did not believe in him, but they weren't serial killers and total monsters either, they just didn't believe in him, so he would have no right whatsoever to just give his mother to Christians for earthly care when the earthly family is right there.

@Asaph Vapordo not document her stuff, it is ridiculous, kind of like your stuff. No offense.

@Beanie Bear Now you have not only insulted Hebrew culture, you have also insulted Christian culture in general. Which just goes to show how oblivious you are to the history of Christianity with your sectarian Bible alone tunnel vision of reality. Jesus was of Adam, he became a human, he was not a spirit floating around, he had to lower himself to the level of Adam before taking his rightful place as new Adam. Jesus is no rebel, he will not spit in the face of Mary just because he is God, why didn't he just drop down from Heaven without a mother, why didn't he just do something else which wouldn't necessitate obedience to superiors. He was making a point okay. Your theology is ratchet. All the verses about spiritual families are in anticipation of this, not in contradiction. If we even take the verse you took about Jesus and his family you'll notice that he doesn't say "no they are not my family" but rather he affirms a greater order of family which will ultimately triumph. Man this just so much that you don't get it is exhausting frankly. All this because of garbage tunnel vision sola scriptura ahistorical printing press opportunism of idiots like Luther who would throw you out of their churches anyway seeing that you've become more corrupt than even them. Calvin would literally call you out as "excessively ignorant," look up the quote, this is frankly ridiculous.

Because His brothers did not believe in him at that time, so He asked her spiritual brother to take care of her. In NT time the unity of the spiritual family was greater than the natural family, as it is today in many cases.

Verum Est Mundum you’re ignoring history. Jesus did that because care of the mother, in the first century, fell to the eldest son.

John 3:16 Who so ever believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. No pope needed, no Mary needed, to roman Catholic church needed. Just faith in Jesus's grace. Should you do good works? Yes, but it's because you have faith you do the works. Works alone don't get you to heaven.

Who drinks water at a wedding celebration ??? The water was there for cleansing/kosher purposes.

YOU: The way catholics twist scripture to make mary divine Me: We don't Why do you have to resort to lies instead of the truth? Don't you realize that your lies betray who you really follow???

@@bridgefin let me make it simple for you,where in scripture is mary divine?

@@trucyaurelia2410 You asked: where in scripture is mary divine? Me: First Mary is a proper name and she deserved to be capitalized. Second, it is an abomination to claim that she is divine. That comes from your perversion and not from Catholicism. Again, why are you lying instead of speaking truth???

@@bridgefin my perversion? The catholics literally claim she is the "blessed holy mother" which is found nowhere in scripture.

Yet it was the teaching of the apostles disciples! And they continued to hand down the devotions and paintings. Of the BVM. The church , not the bible, "is the pillar and foundation of truth" That may be why it seems "unbiblical" because you fail to understand the church since you focus only in 21st century American Protestantism.

@@xtraordinairartist9469 So why was the words of the apostles disciples not included in the Bible?

The "queen" mentioned in Jeremiah does not apply to Mary, because that was a false, pagan one. Mary is the queen of the Davidic kingdom of heaven, simply because her son is the king. (Jeremiah used a Hebrew word for 'queen' that was never applied to the queen of Israel.)That's how it worked in the Biblical kingdom of God (aka kingdom of Israel, kingdom of the LORD, kingdom of heaven, see Samuels, Kings, Chronicles, Psalms, Gospels). We are inhabitants of the kingdom of heaven, the earthly side (since we are Christians), and Mary is the queen, and so we honor (not worship) her. We honor honor her because God has honored her first.

@@kd4yhs FYI, Prayer is worship. Mary is not queen of anything according to the scriptures.

@@larrybedouin2921 bro, have you ever read the Bible on how The Davidic Kingdom was structured?? If you did, you would see that within the Kingdom of Israel the Queen was never the King’s Wife, but rather it was His Mother known as the Queen Mother. Likewise, Jesus who is the new Davidic King of an Everlasting Kingdom would make Mary the Queen Mother.

@@stevo1n1 Which part of 👉"that they may provoke me to anger" did you not comprehend?

@@larrybedouin2921 what’s your point?

Yeah! I was at a Catholic event at my college and they gave this example, but then also gave an example of Christ and God being Adam and Eve and the Holy Spirit their spiritual child… I was so confounded. Scripture is so clear in its imagery of who Christ is in particular. We are His bride, He is the Bridegroom. I simply cannot understand how the CC can overlook such glaring issues with their theology.

@@ok7091 It’s indoctrination. Just look at Mormons, JW’s. If you speak “spiritual lingo” and promise your way is the only right way to salvation, you can convince unlearned, or spiritually blind people of anything. Christ’s way is the only way, and these groups manipulate and mislead people away from Him. I’m currently doing a project on cults, specifically how to outreach to their members. I have been doing research to expand my thesis to Roman Catholicism. Some of these people are being spiritually abused, and it’s truly heartbreaking.

No !!! Mary is a proven intercessor....see John 2: 1-11.

@@user-fq7cb8de3h She interceded on behalf of the bridegroom, not on behalf of Jesus. Remember Mary never told Jesus what to do. Jesus did what he did off his own back not because of Mary. What is the lesson of the wedding at Cana?

@@stever4181 "Son, they have no wine," is an intercession and Jesus saw to Her distress by giving them the BEST WINE.

@user-fq7cb8de3h Buddy you are dead wrong!

@@user-fq7cb8de3h Is that all you get from this event? If so then you have no clue of what scriptures teach and are only repeating rubbish.

Why go listen to S. Hahn blubber on about Mary when we can hear all the catholics idolize her right here?

@@gracielong3566 Do you call Mary blessed? If not, why not? Luke 1:48.

He tries to sidestep the Genesis 3 issue, to my knowledge, by just saying Scott is using a bad translation. He (foolishly) accuses Scott of doing that himself, ignoring that the inconsistency has been around in non-Catholic translations for hundreds of years. Under Mike's translation, of course, he would have to conclude that Eve crushes the serpent, although that's silly to even consider given that Eve just gave into the serpent right before God said that.

@@gracielong3566 you might learn something.

@@gracielong3566 Mike skipping parts of the video to create holes for weakness does not help in proving his point. It only convinces people who did not listen to Hahn's footage and have no background at all on the arguments behind it, but is inadequate proof for a learned Christian. Skipping references to early Christian witness to the argument is, i should say, a low blow. If Mike really thinks this is a made-up argument, then he should address the Early Fathers (primary source of this insight of Scripture) by citing a likewise early Christian writer sharing his opinion. You really cannot debunk an argument with merely an opinion of the passage (and skipping the solid references so that it only becomes "your personal interpretation vs. my personal interpretation") - it has to be properly backed up by a sound context provided by the early Church. 2 Peter 1:20.

That's the correct translation and it's the one that Fathers that Mike considers trustworthy in his videos on the Biblical canon (Justin Martyr and Irenaeus) used when they decided that Mary was the new Eve. You can consider, then, two options, one of which being that Mike is using a faulty translation that came out over a thousand years after Christ, or that Mike just relied on two idolatrous pagans to create the Bible. The former is easily more true. This is because Eve can't be the one to crush the serpent because she just gave into the serpent. People in original sin are children of wrath (Ephesians 2:3) and under the devil (1 John 3:8). Therefore, Eve can't defeat Satan. The only woman who can defeat Satan, then, has to be without any stain of sin, which is Mary.

Mary being the new Eve doesn’t literally mean she has to be married to Jesus. Mike uses that argument as a straw man to try and make it look ridiculous when he has no real argument to use.

That’s manifestly false, people have always been reading scripture. Scripture is read every Sunday mass, so Christians for 1400+ years before the reformation were hearing scripture spoken every Sunday.

Sounds silly.

Not a valid argument. It simply dismisses an argument you can't refute which he does alot in this video

@@veritasmuy2407 What do you mean 'Roman?' Are you implying that these were ever unique to the church at Rome and weren't believed by the whole church, as history shows? That Mary was a perpetual virgin? That Peter was made the earthly leader of the church? Which 'Roman' doctrine do you want to discuss?

@@elingeniero2000 It seems like a pretty valid argument to me - words generally mean what they mean at face value. There is no hidden symbolism in my reply to you. It's scary to think that such a central aspect of the Catholic Church is ultimately derived from "symbols" that aren't even expounded in the text of scripture.

Your thanks went in the wrong direction.

@@bridgefin so thanking God is a wrong direction now?

@@WinstonPrakash No, always thank God in all things. But Mike is not speaking for God but against him and his church. That's why I said thanking God for Mike was the wrong direction. Mike has good intentions but he is sometimes on the wrong team.

@@bridgefin I absolutely agree with what Mike is saying and I think he is right. One can argue, who is Mike to interpret the scripture as he is doing, but this can also be applied to the other side, the Catholic Church which is again man made.

@@WinstonPrakash Catholic church is made by the man God Jesus Christ. Jesus said he would be with his church forever. He also promised that the spirit of truth would be with the apostles forever during the Last Supper. So Mike can make no claim to being right but the Catholic Church can. Mike loves typology except when it offends his agenda.

Mary was ' over-shadowed ' by the Holy Spirit to ' seed ' the Savior........see Luke 1: 35. Where does ' married his mother on the 7th day ' come from ???

@@veritasmuy2407........Every catholic knows that Mary was married to St. Joseph.......as portrayed in all our Christmas mangers.

@@veritasmuy2407.....YOU might mean the spouse of the Holy Spirit; She was impregnated by the Holy Spirit = a spousal event. That is why Joseph was going to divorce Mary privately........see Matt. 1: 18-19.

@@veritasmuy2407............Mary is the slave/handmaid of the Lord; and impregnation is usually a spousal event.

@@veritasmuy2407..............Yes !!!

They are all true. Poor Mike has it wrong on many counts. But he is not as ignorant as John MacArthur, at least.

Early church Fathers : St. Irenaus addressed her as second Eve. He heard Polycarp preach to him , who in turn was a disciple of John the apostle. St Athanasius called her queen of heaven. St Athansius is successor (many times removed ) from Mark , the apostle, and he defended the Trinity and formed athanasius Creed. At that time, he singlehandedly fought off Arianism .Scott Hahn is correct .

@@cslewis1404 St. Irenaeus didn't actually call her "second Eve" from what I can see. He just compares her to Eve. I don't know how much we can take from that, other than it being an analogy. The relevant passage (Against Heresies Book 3 Ch 22) is very short and seems to just say that by God's design the fall came through the disobedience of a virgin (Eve) and our salvation came through the obedience of a different virgin (Mary). Although Eve being a virgin at the time of the fall is an assumption (i.e. one has to question why her punishment is "multiplying pains" in childbirth if she didn't have a previous experience of childbirth?) St. Athanasius did not call her the Queen of Heaven in any text I can find other than the Homily of the Papyrus of Turin, which seems to be falsely attributed to Athanasius, or at least none of the other early Greek or Latin fathers seems to have known about it or referenced it. Also seems weird that he is silent on the subject on In The Incarnation which would have been a great place to discuss it.

@@felixiusbaqi St athanasius wrote this during Arian crisis: “It becomes you to be mindful of us, as you stand near Him who granted you all graces. For you are the Mother of God and our Queen. Help us for the sake of the King, the Lord God Master Who was born of you. For this reason you are called ‘full of grace.’” Coptic orthodox do pray to her and orthodox call her Queen of heaven.

@@cslewis1404 This quote might change my mind if it were verifiable. Do you know where it came from? Unfortunately, I can only find it popping up on a handful of Catholic websites without any citation (other than claiming it's a quote from Athanasius). The quote is always in the form you gave above but never cited to a verified work of Athanasius. I tried to look up various wordings both via Google and in my digital copy of the "complete" ante and post Nicene fathers, and couldn't find anything by Athanasius (or anyone else) that says something like this (other than the few Catholic websites mentioned). So far seems like a spurious quote, but happy to be proven wrong.