Thanks Jake. When we had steers on the dairy feed never was a problem. Mixed corn and oat and supplements and a dash of salt and minerals and poured it to them when they were up in the 900 to 1000 lb area. Always Holsteins never had colored cattle. And Holsteins love the grains. I only have 4 Holsteins now and that's as many as I can afford to feed and have to buy all my grain and hay. Only way I can make a little is sell as butchered meat. I think after this batch goes I'm going to buy angus or cross bred cattle and try them.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
oldfarmer thanks for the input! Ya when u only have tiny heard freezer beef is the only way to go. I’m sure u will like the other breeds to. 1100 lbs live weight seems to make a nice size 1/4 for people. Thanks for watching
@Masseydriver6 жыл бұрын
A couple viewers mention barley, which is a real good idea. Barley is the same protein as corn. But you need to fall seed it, and it is usually ready to harvest mid to late June when you’re running low on corn. And you can bale the straw for bedding which is real similar to oat straw.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Massey1105driver thanks for the input. Never thought of barley but it’s looking like a good idea
@PAFarms6 жыл бұрын
Just curious, do you guys still have the barn that the cattle were in in the 1997 farm tape?
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
PA Farms yes that’s our dairy barn. I’ve got u down for a video on it
@sterff89906 жыл бұрын
The farm I work on, we make a mix of ear corn, barley, and minerals. The also get corn silage. I’d look into planting barley.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Sterff89 thanks for the input. I’m leaning towards barley
@dehavenfamilyfarm6 жыл бұрын
Hey Jake, if you don't mind me asking, do you sell your steers direct to customers or at an auction? I really want to get into cattle, but not sure which way I want to go: short term investment bottle calves or longer term investment steers ready to go to the butcher. Thanks!
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
DeHaven Family Farm I sell them direct to customers. I make more that way and they get a high quality product at a cheaper price. I’d go with feeders. There very easy to maintain
@burningdinosaurs6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us in on your feed process! Growing up, we always kept enough corn on hand to feed our cattle, but since, I've also heard of people feeding barley (if you can grow it) and it seems to work pretty good. But if you could store more corn onsite, I'd think that would be the most economical option. Thanks for the video!
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
burningdinosaurs Thanks for the input. I might try barley. I don’t have a great way to store corn and I like to use the 525 LOL
@ardenrouth35556 жыл бұрын
I would put up a small grain bin so I would have corn all year long.
@tntcattle62466 жыл бұрын
Nice looking animals!
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
TNT Cattle thanks!
@dalecornelius43746 жыл бұрын
Well here's my 2 cents, the practical solution is to store more of your own corn so you can control the quality. Whether you get a couple more wagons, put up a small bin or even in a building if you don't mind the shoveling. There are several different millets, none of which are very viable grain yielders. They are warm season grasses which won't lend well to spring planting. You can try barley or feed wheat and grind bright straw with it to bulk it up.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Dale Cornelius I’m kinda thinking barley now. If that don’t pan out and I get tired of oats I’ll come up with a better way to store corn. Thanks for the input!
@raybornclark8617 Жыл бұрын
@@jakeziegler599 we like to grow a field of brown top millet to harvest as hay each year....the cows love the millet hay and clean up every round bale we put out a lot better than grass hay but the millet hay needs to be stored dry (barn kept is what we do or maybe wrapped) it will not store outside as good as grass hay....
@scottmarteeny04416 жыл бұрын
Use barley high protein like corn Harvest like oats
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Scott Marteeny thanks for the info
@timpille84956 жыл бұрын
In southern Illinois you could plant barely then corn barely gets out before oats so you might have time to get two crops
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
tim pille now I like that! I could at least double crop beans. Thanks for the info. Where in souther Illinois are u?
@w0560075686 жыл бұрын
Jake, at the end of the day you might just buy wheat cheaper than you can grow it as spring wheat does not yield that well as it often does not tiller out nearly as well (compared to winter wheat)! Generally spring barley will out perform it in terms of yield. Many folks here will grind cereals and mix these with a purchased premix which balances the ration and provides the necessary protein/mineral/vitamin requirements. For many folks this is mixed at 336lbs of premix to 1900 lbs of grain to make an imperial tonne of food. This would be fed with free access straw in the racks or mediocre grade hay. If you want to feed alfalfa add more grain to the premix so that they do not have too much protein.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Dan Whiteford every other year we plant a field of winter wheat any way so I’d just take some of that. I’m kinda leaning towards barley tho. At least try it. Thanks for the input on feed!
@karlbrohammer91056 жыл бұрын
Nice looking beef animals, ration seems practical for your herd. Consider a hopper bin if you can find to store corn from your own source. Looking good, the beef will be top notch.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Karl Brohammer thanks for watching!
@pepifarms50096 жыл бұрын
Jake I like your idea of what your calling almost like a test plot.never dealt in millet before, should be a nice test ran
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Pepi farms thanks!
@timerfarms1136 жыл бұрын
Can u keep corn at elevator in grain bank. Also maybe plant spelts farm I use to work on did to put in calf feed not sure how it would be on finishing cattle.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Timer Farms it would cost more and proly still would be clean out since I would just have such a small amount. I’ve heard of spelts being used before
@JJconcrete10 ай бұрын
You feed a bag of grain a week on each gal or between all three
@ScootSack6 жыл бұрын
I got a half from my son's friend who farms out here and it is so much better beef than anything you can buy in a store. Grain fed is the best.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Scoot4117 Sack yes it is!
@anthonyscv16 жыл бұрын
as others have stated barley is the best small grain alternative to corn. Barley has a lower starch level . Barley is much easier to feed than most other small grains. Corn really has relatively low protien content it usually ranges 7-7.5% range.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
anthonyscv1 thanks for the input!!
@padairyfarming64896 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend barley. The straw is better then any straw you can use and the barley has a higher protein then corn. I was always told barley is a poor man's corn.
@michaelcallas81385 жыл бұрын
PAdairyfarming ,
@scottviers37946 жыл бұрын
Beef are looking good Jake. Your ration definantly agrees with them. Take care, See you next post.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Scott Viers thanks scott! Ya I’ve had good luck with them so don’t want to mess it up that bad lol
@jonathantarrant24496 жыл бұрын
can you post the hanging weights, or average carcass weight. Also how many months old are they 18ish? are they all steers or are some heifers? Also what type of cattle, black angus cross? obviously the red white face is something else.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Tarrant ya I’ll mention it in an upcoming video sometime. Ya they were fall of 16 calves. Ya angus and red white face. 3 steers 3 heifers
@wesleyk42276 жыл бұрын
Do you keep any cattle year around? You’ve probably said before but I was just wondering
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Wesley K nope just late February through early January
@michiganfarming19556 жыл бұрын
cows got big! you still got plans for chopping corn in the future?
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Michigan Farming prolly not this year as my sister is selling her horse so that will free up enough hay for me
@padairyfarming64896 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have been feeding the black and white steers. It's not the best market but there is a little money to be made. I haven't fed full feed at all bc im buying bagged feed but am gonna try next summer maybe. Thanks again for the video.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
PAdairyfarming , thanks for watching! Ya if u can get them on full corn at least that will help
@Johndeere-lf9pg6 жыл бұрын
They look nice. Their back and rear are nice and round. We always had oats put into our corn along with molasses and supplement. It would be interesting to see what their hanging weight is. 750?
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Johndeere5065 thanks man! Ya I’m shooting for 700 750 would be nice tho
@JD-kf2ki4 жыл бұрын
Cow + grass = best taste!
@chuckstevenson29296 жыл бұрын
Interesting content.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Chuck Stevenson thanks for watching
@69druth6 жыл бұрын
We grow oats barley and pea mix for grain. Oats a light feed good for creep feeding calves on cows. Here we have to put fungicide on at flag and before heading for the oats to weigh up.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
69druth ok thanks for the input
@oldironfarming58046 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest barley, but it should be at least rolled. Field Peas are good too
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Old Iron Farming thanks for the input
@farmermatt6296 жыл бұрын
Hey Jake This is off the subject but I’m building a 460 farmall puller .... put in a hycapacity ta and deleting the hyd pump and power steering thinking I can plug the oil galleys in ta housing to keep the ta lubed.... just pour in a few quarts and put on cover.... I figured I could change hytrans a few times a year.... but I’m not sure if the oil will pass thru the back of ta into the trans... and then my ta would be dry.... my only other option would be to put in electric oil pump and really don’t want to got that route... your thoughts?
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
farmermatt629 I really couldn’t tel ya there. I would think u still need an oil supply tho. But I’ve never worked on the ta except for in that 504 and it was all mechanical
@farmermatt6296 жыл бұрын
Jake Ziegler ya the ta in the 460 is the same as 504 just a lil bigger ... I’m basically just making a oil bath with oil that doesn’t circulate from hyd pump
@AndersonCattleCo6 жыл бұрын
Good vid free choice good quality forage is important when feeding cattle. Do people grow barley in your area, you could plant them the same time as oats and they have more energy ,48lb/bu.
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
AndersonCattleCo. Thanks and no barley grown here but I’m considering it seeing how every one is saying that
@AndersonCattleCo6 жыл бұрын
Corn is better , higher TDN than barley and barley has a higher starch so you can't bump them up as fast as corn or you need to be more careful but is easier than wheat. There are a pile of feedlots that finish on wheat.
@aaronblack93476 жыл бұрын
Hey man there is a white 8700 in good looking shape for sale in hickory NC Craigslist. FYI
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Aaron Black cool I’ll have to look
@SoybeanFarmer33006 жыл бұрын
does your dad have anything to do with these cows or are they all yours?
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Soybean Farmer all mine. Grandpa had cattle then we didn’t have any for 7 or 8 years then I got some
@richardcleasby1056 жыл бұрын
barley is high in energy like corn can substitute lb for lb
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Richard Cleasby ok thanks!
@nolanbrodrecht4006 жыл бұрын
My neighbor had grown millet
@jakeziegler5996 жыл бұрын
Muddy Springs did he like it?
@nolanbrodrecht4006 жыл бұрын
Jake Ziegler ya he did and the stubble looks almost like wheat stubble and there’s lots of straw
@alyramadan34033 жыл бұрын
I want to communicate with a Nutritionist to create an integrated nutrition program that can help me
@theyhateme_cc25833 жыл бұрын
If u show cows u want to make sure u done over feed them we have over 23 cows I show at big shows but don’t feed Them at night if u don’t want fat cows ok