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Catwoman: Guardian of Gotham #2 - Atop the Fourth Wall

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Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara looks at the second issue of an awful Elseworlds story of Catwoman as Batman!
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Originally uploaded August 27th, 2012.
ORIGINAL INFO: The dark, haunting tale of a woman and her improbable physique!
RUMINATIONS: This is one of the few times that the Previously On segment was scripted and I really like how it turned out - the idea that the Previously On segment, since it was already made up of nonsensical things that never happened on the show, could have reruns on it was a silly idea that I decided to go with it. I will say that I had people in mind that ended up not being used. For example, Nella’s bit was actually originally written for the Blockbuster Buster, but he didn’t get back to me in time for it. JesuOtaku’s bit was written for someone else, as well, although I can’t remember who. I think I was channeling Phelous a lot for the fourth-wall breaking, which is why it worked so well for him to show up like he did.
The idea for Linkara turning evil actually first came to me during the filming of Suburban Knights. We pointed out to each other while we were filming that our characters… well… were kind of assholes. I think part of that might be a weakness in Doug’s writing style - he believes all comedy derives from misery in one way or another, so it’s easy to write the characters as hurling insults at one another in order to make jokes, that mockery can be humorous. The thing is that that sort of thing needs to be done in moderation and if EVERYBODY’S a jerk, why should we care what happens to them? And thus once I dropped the “jealous girlfriend” idea of the storyline with the magic gun, I developed the “maybe Linkara is actually becoming a prick” thing. I deliberately put in him threatening people who irritated him with his spaceship to let power go to his head a bit, I let him become a bit more uncaring. I forgot to put in the violent threats he made against Insano, but the idea is there. Maybe him going overboard with 90s Kid was a bit too much, but you’d be pretty pissed about such a blatantly dumb thing to do, as well. It also helped explain his more dictatorial attitude in Kickassia and how boastful he was as the “liberator” of it. It’s okay to be boastful and have moments of triumph… but it’s also easy to let that sort of thing go to your head.
Many people have figured out contradictions in the idea of “magic can only be used for good,” and that’s a good thing - that means you’re paying attention. There’s more to the story, it’s just not something I felt needed to be explored at this time, but really the rule was just set up to explain why in this world you didn’t regularly see wizards and crap trying to take over the world.

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@ckd8520
@ckd8520 9 жыл бұрын
Guys, I think we found Crazy Steve's home dimension.
@jeniferjoseph9200
@jeniferjoseph9200 9 жыл бұрын
Clayton Dills Agreed
@CaptainJZH
@CaptainJZH 9 жыл бұрын
That...makes surprisingly a lot of sense.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 9 жыл бұрын
OMG! It makes so much sense! ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!!!
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 8 жыл бұрын
+The little red haired girl from across the street That's getting old.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 8 жыл бұрын
Kimi FW my comments pretty old so it was fresher back then
@TheNumnutRandomness
@TheNumnutRandomness 9 жыл бұрын
*Smears blood all over the floor, walls, other people* "NOT A SPECK OF EVIDENCE LEFT BEHIND" *Probably gets fingerprints everywhere too* "NOT. A. SPECK"
@101Draico
@101Draico 7 жыл бұрын
TheNumnutRandomness BY GOD HES A CRIMINAL MASTERMIND!!!
@Targisvear
@Targisvear 6 жыл бұрын
"You' an idiot?"
@disneyfan85
@disneyfan85 5 жыл бұрын
@@Targisvear Where was that taken from at 10:36?
@Targisvear
@Targisvear 5 жыл бұрын
@@disneyfan85 Sorry, no idea myself, first time I came across it was on here XD.
@theotherghostgirl337
@theotherghostgirl337 5 жыл бұрын
I’m just surprised he didn’t lick something on the way out
@spiderdoctor2269
@spiderdoctor2269 2 жыл бұрын
"You murdered brooks! You want to murder me too!" has the same energy as "they're eating her. And then they're gonna eat me. Oh my Gooooooood"
@tazzreviews1578
@tazzreviews1578 8 жыл бұрын
Wait... Bruce is only a few years younger than Selena. That means he should of been a child when he killed her parents. HOW DID THEY SCREW THIS UP!?
@doctorvo9597
@doctorvo9597 7 жыл бұрын
Tyler Shewchuk Alternate universe= different ages?
@hibubgames7667
@hibubgames7667 7 жыл бұрын
That would be hilarious. Some kid just robs and kills people.
@disneydork100
@disneydork100 7 жыл бұрын
"Gimmie your lunch money!" *bang*
@hibubgames7667
@hibubgames7667 7 жыл бұрын
That's cannon now.
@carterscott01
@carterscott01 7 жыл бұрын
disneydork100 would explain why he stole the plastic ring.
@Bussani
@Bussani 6 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I feel bad for Brooks dying? I mean, she mostly existed to bend over and show the reader her underwear, and we never even found out where she came from, but at least she cared about Selina and had a unique relationship with her. I dunno--I guess I'm just surprised that her death is the only thing about this story that made me feel anything!
@caitlinsnowfrost8244
@caitlinsnowfrost8244 3 жыл бұрын
I get that, yeah. I could definitely see a rewrite putting much more characterization into Brooks- and even then, she's arguably the *only* character asides from Commissioner Gordon who seems to care about Selina? It's not like Selina has any sort of "cat-family" here.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree Tbh I wish she was Selina’s love interest instead of the weird thing with Bruce
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 8 жыл бұрын
AND NOT A SPECK OF EVIDENCE LEFT BEHIND
@al_fletcher
@al_fletcher 8 жыл бұрын
+PolarPhantom A TORN GLOVE! I'LL STEAL IT!! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!!!
@nicwaterfill2259
@nicwaterfill2259 6 жыл бұрын
11:50 I love that the tiger has it's tongue out while Bruce and Selina are talking. It's like it is thinking to itself, "Hot dang, they're looking great together!"
@gwendolynwestwind9764
@gwendolynwestwind9764 7 жыл бұрын
Plot idea: Batman fakes his own death to go undercover in the Gotham underworld. Selina Kyle, wracked by guilt over the death of her (former?) lover, takes up the mantle of Gotham's protector in his honour. Maybe have this come into conflict with whoever in the Bat Family isn't dead at this point (sorry, I have a very limited knowledge of what's actually going on in the book right now since we don't have anywhere that sells comics locally).
@mitchfletcher2386
@mitchfletcher2386 5 жыл бұрын
A great opportunity for the return of Matches Malone!
@Viccatrix
@Viccatrix 7 жыл бұрын
Thats clearly her dragon radar, so she can hunt down the 7 dragon balls later, and wish for a better costume..
@tavoknaza7086
@tavoknaza7086 7 жыл бұрын
Viccatrix That beyond Sharon power. She looks too stupid.
@Trevin_Taylor
@Trevin_Taylor 7 жыл бұрын
Teon Windley shenron*
@tavoknaza7086
@tavoknaza7086 7 жыл бұрын
Trevin Taylor Oh my god. Whadda fuck up.
@LiaManila
@LiaManila 6 жыл бұрын
Viccatrix Even Shenron can't wish for a better costume
@ilopominecrafter
@ilopominecrafter 5 жыл бұрын
Viccatrix wish for a better... literally everything
@monkeykingw
@monkeykingw 9 жыл бұрын
I've noticed a key difference between DC and Marvel, the way they do Elseworlds/What-if Stories. With DC, we get Batman Worship and Pregnant Women in danger of being Killed(or committing suicide). With Marvel, we see what happens when Magneto gets stuck in an elevator with Colossus, Iron Man and Doctor Doom.
@SrGurkman
@SrGurkman 9 жыл бұрын
What if Peter Parker had lived in Flushing instead of Forest Hills? What if Thor had red hair?
@jakebryant3445
@jakebryant3445 8 жыл бұрын
And I'm still waiting for What If Ultron had the Infinity Gauntlet.
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 5 жыл бұрын
Cascade Hellsing and the non joke interesting ones like what if venom possessed the punisher
@harmonicajay91
@harmonicajay91 8 жыл бұрын
I have to ask: how old is Batman in this? If he killed Catwoman's parents, wouldn't that make him... much older than she is. They seem to be the same age, so he would have to be a kid when he killed her parents.
@alucardyoici
@alucardyoici 8 жыл бұрын
+eastwing329 Once Bruce Wayne reach Batmanhood he stops aging.
@callianr6980
@callianr6980 5 жыл бұрын
He looked to be around a teenager in that one panel, so I'd say... Ten years? Not that big of an age difference, all things considered. That's the same difference of age between one of my teachers and her husband.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 5 жыл бұрын
He's a little older than her. He killed the Kyles as a teenage juvenile.
@ecliptorcalrissian5014
@ecliptorcalrissian5014 5 жыл бұрын
With prep time, Batman can beat aging.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty big calian.
@ChristianNeihart
@ChristianNeihart 9 жыл бұрын
DC Comics: If Batman isn't being shown or featured, just give us a few rewrites.
@CNWhatImSaiyan
@CNWhatImSaiyan 8 жыл бұрын
That's Marvel's idea with Wolverine, too
@xanderm6090
@xanderm6090 7 жыл бұрын
Wolverine isn't as overused as Batman. They actually use their other heroes.
@ilopominecrafter
@ilopominecrafter 5 жыл бұрын
Xander M plus, i am pretty sure they kept wolverine dead longer than when they kill batman (the former i believe was dead for four years while the latter i dont believe for more than one year)
@EchoNorbi
@EchoNorbi 8 жыл бұрын
I can easily fix the artwork problem. Just rename the comic: S&M Kitty: Guardian of the Playboy Mansion.
@CNWhatImSaiyan
@CNWhatImSaiyan 8 жыл бұрын
That sounds INFINITELY better than THIS!
@sirpheredin1379
@sirpheredin1379 7 жыл бұрын
EchoNorbi- That title idea is hilarious, you just made my day:)
@Gyarretto7
@Gyarretto7 7 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking: This comic would be SO much better if they were to either A) cross out all the crappy attempts at sex appeal, and actually let Catwoman be a strong heroine, or B) go all the way with the sex appeal, and just make this a smut comic, instead of only going half-way, and just having women be bent over all the time.
@bboy32167
@bboy32167 7 жыл бұрын
Ild buy that for a dollar
@jessaminehaak8253
@jessaminehaak8253 7 жыл бұрын
The continued insistence that Batman only exists because he corrupted her "cat" motif makes me think that the writer believes that Catwoman wouldn't exist without Batman and he's cleverly mirroring that in the comic. Which is I guess true in a real-world sense - like, she WAS created to be in his rogues' gallery - but not so much in-universe from what I understand of the origin story. Seems like Moench's feelings about Batman being The Best Evar bled into his writing so much they... break the fourth wall in mirror?
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 6 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of Miller's version of Black Canary only becoming a crimefighter because of Batman. BECAUSE THE UNIVERSE MUST REVOLVE AROUND BATMAN
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 5 жыл бұрын
We open with Catwoman falling to her doom. A fitting metaphor for this comic.
@jamesadamsfl
@jamesadamsfl 3 жыл бұрын
In my experience, messing with the origin only works if you really want to mess with Batman/Bruce Wayne's head. Both the Earth-2 setting and the Telltale games did this beautifully by revealing that Thomas Wayne was involved in the Falcone criminal empire and guilty of some pretty awful crap. This not only led to good stories that struck at Batman's heart and soul, it's implied they forced Bruce Wayne to redefine what Batman was, becoming less about his need to avenge his parents and more about protecting Gotham for its own sake. Or you could do what the Earth One setting did and make Batman think he knows who's responsible, then yank the rug out from under him and reveal he has no idea. Again, this worked because it forced Bruce to re-examine his goals as Batman and conclude that rather than using his skills to avenge his parents he could make Gotham a better place. Still, my favorite Batman story, War on Crime, didn't need that. Batman doesn't know who killed his parents, but he doesn't need to. He sees others who are suffering because of Gotham's crime (white collar and otherwise) and chooses to help them out of compassion and empathy. That is how you do a Batman story.
@iamaunicorn1232
@iamaunicorn1232 7 жыл бұрын
7:25. How has that face not been meme'd yet. Like you said it's "wa-wa-waaaa" personified.
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 5 жыл бұрын
I can actually get behind the idea of a villain version of Batman that never found his moral compass. In the hands of a competent writer, you could actually use that to effectively examine why not murdering people is an important part of Batman's mythos and why heroes shouldn't be so willing to casually kill people. Note I said, "in the hands of a competent writer." This is not that. And it's a terrible shame.
@androzani84productions85
@androzani84productions85 28 күн бұрын
Well the Dark Nights sagas gave us a buttload of evil Batmen who murdered their entire rogues gallery and fellow heroes and subsequently caused their universes to deteriorate
@Bauglir100
@Bauglir100 9 жыл бұрын
26:52 Wait, Selina's parents have the same first names as Bruce's parents? What the hell?! Are they seriously so uninspired that they had to give them the exact same names of their counterparts? Or maybe this Elseworlds story's true premise was "What if Thomas and Martha were Catwoman's parents instead of Batman's".
@GanonGhidorah
@GanonGhidorah 7 жыл бұрын
"What if Thomas and Martha-" Catwoman: "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!"
@CodecrafterArtemis
@CodecrafterArtemis 8 жыл бұрын
I really dig Stephanie Brown's Batgirl costume.
@johnniewalker877
@johnniewalker877 8 жыл бұрын
Yes linkara batman is pregnant.... This beats all of my fan fiction
@ilopominecrafter
@ilopominecrafter 6 жыл бұрын
To be devil’s advocate on batman 89, tim burton (and likely others on the team) had never actually read a batman comic or knew what it was.
@Merit2397
@Merit2397 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy stories of self-discovery. To quote Lewis "The best superhero stories are about kindness and decency" and this one is no acceptation. Linkara has just realized what he's become and now has to go through the seven stages of grief. He first shocked and tries to deny it. Then grows angry towards Aplos and then after the wizard explains what has been happening to him Linkara grows to become guilty for how's he treated everyone around him. This is a story about self-improvement which is why I consider this to be the greatest AT4W storyline of them all, in my opinion.
@flummox3d
@flummox3d 9 жыл бұрын
I'M UNEXPECTED! No but srsly, that Previously on segment tho :3
@thecomicnation1085
@thecomicnation1085 9 жыл бұрын
(• 3 •) yeah
@nathanhuerta4445
@nathanhuerta4445 6 жыл бұрын
flummox3d I
@Makverus
@Makverus 9 жыл бұрын
I can never get over the fact that the actor, playing the younger Jack Nappier in the movie looks so much more like Joker than Nicholson did...
@majorfanboy2005
@majorfanboy2005 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me?
@Makverus
@Makverus 2 жыл бұрын
@@majorfanboy2005 Was I wrong? Young Napier has the classic Joker look - the face shape, the eyebrows, the nose, the smile, even the hairline!
@majorfanboy2005
@majorfanboy2005 2 жыл бұрын
@@Makverus No, Jack Nicholson does.
@Makverus
@Makverus 2 жыл бұрын
@@majorfanboy2005 no, he doesn't 😁 not trying to say he acted poorly, or something, but his facial structure definitely doesn't look like the comic book Joker
@majorfanboy2005
@majorfanboy2005 2 жыл бұрын
@@Makverus Oh my God, are you fucking serious. He looks way more like The Joker than any actor before and after his betrayal. And even if he didn't, then what about Heath Ledger, What about Joaquin Phoenix, how about Cesar Romero or Jared Leto! Do any of them look like The Joker, no. And do any actual people care if they did, (outside of Jared Leto) NO!
@thomasfredrickson6298
@thomasfredrickson6298 8 жыл бұрын
25:40 *slow claps* Thank You, Linkara! That's why I can't name the 1989 film as one of my favorites! It's bad enough that the Joker was the one that shot Bruce's parents, but one gripe I have with is that he has a name. I know someone will tell me that Joker's supposed name is Jack, but I like the mystery as to never knowing the identity, much like what The Dark Knight portrayed him!
@TheSefirosu200x
@TheSefirosu200x 8 жыл бұрын
I personally think NONE of the Batman movies ever released have been good, because they're never an accurate take on the character. Either Batman is a murderer, or he's a whiny quitter in a universe that has no metahumans, when IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE METAHUMANS AND BATMAN NEVER GIVES UP!
@eamonndeane587
@eamonndeane587 7 жыл бұрын
+TheSefirosu200x What about 'Mask of The Phantasm?
@TheNemesis432
@TheNemesis432 7 жыл бұрын
I think he meant live-action movies. DC animated films always was good since DCAU kicked off (well, atleast before New 52 line).
@eamonndeane587
@eamonndeane587 7 жыл бұрын
Dr. Eggman 'Justice League: Gods and Monsters' was Interesting.
@TheNemesis432
@TheNemesis432 7 жыл бұрын
Eamonn Deane Nah... I've won't count it, because it's basically a DCAU film. Of course it would be good.
@KevlarNinja
@KevlarNinja 9 жыл бұрын
The Blockbuster Buster was almost a part of the Previously On segment? Man, I would have liked that. Oh well, there's still future ones he could do I guess.
@Meanlucario
@Meanlucario 7 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that I thought of an idea for AU Catwoman after this review? One of her clients is killed, so she goes after the person responsible and accidentally saves some hostages while getting her revenge and money, and starts to go out of her way to help others and still steal for herself, and it ending with her deciding to help Gotham more than harm it after killing/beating a powerful villain, though still doing light thieving on the side for the extra cash.
@thetruewisegamer
@thetruewisegamer 4 жыл бұрын
@@dereknight861 you mean....? Sly selina?
@Meanlucario
@Meanlucario 4 жыл бұрын
@ thetrue wise gamer ​ @Dylan Sharp I guess, whoever that is
@thetruewisegamer
@thetruewisegamer 4 жыл бұрын
@@Meanlucario it was a sly cooper reference.
@Meanlucario
@Meanlucario 4 жыл бұрын
@@thetruewisegamer Ah. Thanks.
@CalvinChikelue
@CalvinChikelue 2 жыл бұрын
LOL @10:30 Linkara's use of the "You an idiot?" clip never fails to make me bust a gut.
@tobyjack1238
@tobyjack1238 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless of how consensual it was, what kind of parent would be proud to know that their daughter is carrying their murderer’s child?
@TheSefirosu200x
@TheSefirosu200x 8 жыл бұрын
I don't get how Bruce could have killed Selina's parents considering he's around her age and didn't they die when they were both kids? So, what, he was a killer when he was a little kid?
@alucardyoici
@alucardyoici 8 жыл бұрын
He was the Comedian of crime or it's just Batman never looking older even when the robins he trained are grown men
@GalenNight
@GalenNight 10 ай бұрын
Apparently he was a teenager when he killed them
@grantwilson4506
@grantwilson4506 8 жыл бұрын
What? Batman is Bruce Wayne!?!
@CNWhatImSaiyan
@CNWhatImSaiyan 8 жыл бұрын
NO WAI!!!!!!!
@101Draico
@101Draico 7 жыл бұрын
Grant Wilson no, Bruce Wayne is Bruce Wayne, batman is batman, this is a what if story I mean duh get your facts right
@isaiahkayode6526
@isaiahkayode6526 3 жыл бұрын
Always hasbin
@RobinDJoker
@RobinDJoker 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously? Even in a comic where Batman is the villain, Doug Moench is still worshipping Batman
@jacobmatthewcrawford2120
@jacobmatthewcrawford2120 9 жыл бұрын
On the comic book... After watching nearly all of the "Miller Time" episodes, I think we've found something even more insane than "ASBAR"... I guess the only other thing I have to say is, I hope this comic book was kept in a special section of the store, where not just any child could pick it up and look through it. Like the porno section of a video store. I'm not an over concerned censorship nut, but this should not be seen by any kid who hasn't hit puberty. Also, when "Brooke" is telling "Selina" she's moving too quickly with marriage, we totally see a panel of "Selina" completely naked from the front! On the AT4W storyline... "Aplos" did a good job taking "Linkara" down a peg or two. The montage of all of "Linkara's" low points and his huge ego moments was well done. The whole scene served well in establishing further character development for "Linkara"... Lewis's brother did a very good acting job. He was funny, serious and even frightening. The "previously on" segment is even funnier now, since most of these critics were "Previously On" Channel Awesome...
@1111-e4p
@1111-e4p 5 жыл бұрын
25:48 Wasn’t the guy who killed the Wanyes canonically revealed to be a random thug named Joe Chill?
@MrBlueSkyof1607
@MrBlueSkyof1607 2 жыл бұрын
And I thought Halle Berry's portrayal of her was embarrassing.
@The_Kentuckian
@The_Kentuckian 8 жыл бұрын
So, if Batman killed her parents does that mean her parents were mugged by a child?
@isaacbailey3681
@isaacbailey3681 4 жыл бұрын
The "Previously On" segment was hilarious, keep up the good work!
@idongesitusen5764
@idongesitusen5764 4 жыл бұрын
Here's how you do this premise right: Selina Kyle was a former thief who worked for mob woman Harleen Quinzel, but went straight after giving GCPD evidence to put her boss away in Arkham. Now a well-off veterinarian, Selina is engaged to a well-off man named Bruce Wayne and enjoys the love of a family she never had. One night however, Selina comes home to the Wayne home to find Bruce and his parents dead, a note written in blood with a jester's hat as a signature. Using the Waynes' money and her street smarts, Selina Kyle becomes Catwoman & meets Quinzel, now the crazed Harley Quinn for a final fight to avenge her loss. Once Quinn is dead, Catwoman resolves to protect Gotham, in order to make it a safer place.
@thetruewisegamer
@thetruewisegamer 4 жыл бұрын
.......WHY ISN'T THIS A THING?!
@idongesitusen5764
@idongesitusen5764 4 жыл бұрын
@@thetruewisegamer because DC doesn’t know a good thing unless it bites them.
@thetruewisegamer
@thetruewisegamer 4 жыл бұрын
@@idongesitusen5764 ahhhhhggg makes sense
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 Ай бұрын
​@@idongesitusen5764 not bad, but again it's needlessly tied to Batman.
@jeremyusreevu237
@jeremyusreevu237 4 жыл бұрын
19:47-20:05 THANK you, Linkara! I am sick of villians that are like Oh, I'm so evil. I don't need motivation.
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman 9 жыл бұрын
Even Malachite wound up paying for the evil stuff with some of his life-force when he didn't have the gem
@Smashguy96
@Smashguy96 8 жыл бұрын
The guy who killed Bruce's parents is named Joe Chill and Batman has encountered him several times in the comics. Also Batman fighting crime is for revenge. Remember his whole "I am Vengeance, I am the Night, I am Batman" speech?
@nack287
@nack287 8 жыл бұрын
But wait... Joe Chill killed Batman's parents, right?
@alucardyoici
@alucardyoici 8 жыл бұрын
yes but joe chill is a nobody at least most of the time, and never batman's archenemy
@mikevltg3
@mikevltg3 8 жыл бұрын
Still for the most part there are stories of Batman going after Chill as payback for what happened to his parents, like the original comics themselves or one of my favorite episodes of Brave and the Bold in particular.
@jfdrac
@jfdrac 6 жыл бұрын
except the time they made Joe into the Joker
@dosbilliam
@dosbilliam 8 жыл бұрын
Would Evil Linkara also be called Ganonara? Also, I hope I'm not the first one to make that joke.
@sklaveritterify
@sklaveritterify 8 жыл бұрын
Zeldara
@GanonGhidorah
@GanonGhidorah 7 жыл бұрын
Oh please guys...Having Ganon in your name to be the opposite of Link, is almost like having Ghidorah in your name to be the opposite of Godzilla. And no one would be stupid enough to have a name like that... ...wa-wa-waaaaaaaaaaaah
@101Draico
@101Draico 7 жыл бұрын
Dosbilliam AzureIronskull shouldn't it be araknil?
@Trevin_Taylor
@Trevin_Taylor 6 жыл бұрын
You guys know Linkara has never actually played a Zelda game, right? I know, weird.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 5 жыл бұрын
@@Trevin_Taylor We kind of know that.
@Davethe3rd
@Davethe3rd 9 жыл бұрын
"Escargoancitizen, it seems we are in... a rerun..." Boy, don't you know it, Ralph Oancitizen...
@Tomwithnonumbers
@Tomwithnonumbers 3 жыл бұрын
This comic feels unnecessarily cruel to Catwoman
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 6 жыл бұрын
The logistics of Two-Face's outfit hurts my brain.
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 9 жыл бұрын
I love these "Previously on" skits. UGh. That's my review of the comic. UGH.
@Trevin_Taylor
@Trevin_Taylor 6 жыл бұрын
Tareltonlives it’s a sketch, not a skip, we’re not kids at camp. There’s a difference somehow.
@PallysCafe
@PallysCafe 6 жыл бұрын
The art for this episodes card just makes me think linkara is going to say "yeaaaa Nooo, bye."
@jameshowlett5106
@jameshowlett5106 3 жыл бұрын
I liked seeing Jacob show up during the "previously on" segment. This was when I was starting to watch him (thanks for those ace Digimon retrospectives), so it was a pleasant surprise for me. And I hope he finishes his Digimon Tamers review someday!!!
@MTdaBlacking
@MTdaBlacking Жыл бұрын
This is one of those titles in which fanservice and cheesecake is pushed so much but I can barely imagine getting excited about it.
@LightShadowOnyx
@LightShadowOnyx 8 жыл бұрын
on top of this freaking stupid comic brook doesn't make sense at first brook tells selina to find a good looking man and get married when selina does that brook says its a mistake
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 8 жыл бұрын
+Spencer Pauley GREAT CONTINUITY!
@TheAdrift
@TheAdrift 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched these videos a bunch of times (including when they first came out) but just now a funny thing happened: I was watching this video at 12:59am, and then at 21:33 when you pointed up and (on my screen) to the left to play “I Was Only Kidding,” my clock changed to 1am right when you-in-the-video pointed at it. I just found that amusing 😆
@TheKersey475
@TheKersey475 5 жыл бұрын
The brilliant thing about the Linkara story here is that even we the audience have been oblivious to Linkara's descent into darkness. Linkara makes alot of selfish dick moves, but we tend to brush it off as "typical Channel Awesome behavior" (a sentiment which is "Harsher in Hindsight" in light of recent events...) as alot of CA critics tend to act that way
@AT4W
@AT4W 5 жыл бұрын
Yep! It was something that was on my mind a lot at the time - the idea that we play ourselves off as assholes for comedic effect... but we were still being assholes when it was a story featuring us as characters.
@EngineerLume
@EngineerLume 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot that these videos originally came out in the great "Friendship with Stephanie Brown over" period of DC
@troin3925
@troin3925 7 жыл бұрын
19:24-19:47 I have a similar reaction when comparing the Stephen King short story "Here There Be Tygers," to the rest of the Stephen King universe. This is a universe that has aliens that crap out of humans, haunted cars, environments in the past that get devoured by floating balls with teeth, a cosmic monster that commonly takes the form of a clown who's enemy is a cosmic turtle, said turtle being one of many creatures (including a cyborg bear), that holds up a tower that holds up the entire universe, and slight connections to the Cthulhu Mythos. Even in a universe that has all of _that,_ SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A RANDOM TIGER HIDING IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RESTROOM WITHOUT GETTING NOTICED DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!
@TheZipperDragon
@TheZipperDragon 9 жыл бұрын
5:50 No, that's a dragonball radar. Selena Kyle is really Bulma.
@firefly4f4
@firefly4f4 6 жыл бұрын
I miss the "previously on" segments.
@JMDarkly1
@JMDarkly1 4 жыл бұрын
Catwoman as Gotham's hero could be fun actually. Leave in the thief trait and you then have a character who is both loved and hated by the City. Someone who steals their crap, but is also the only one keeping guys like Joker or Twoface under control. Hero thieves have been down before, and they tend to be fun and interesting characters.
@ashtonevans2427
@ashtonevans2427 7 жыл бұрын
Omg. Loved the beginning "previously on" segmemt. Fantastic writing.
@mr.vanillamilkshake3
@mr.vanillamilkshake3 8 ай бұрын
I'm suddenly thinking that this Batman/Crazy Steve got overtaken by his Zur-En-Arrh programming from the recent Infinite Frontier run. Chances are, that also happened in ASBAR.
@Sigmundfruit
@Sigmundfruit 8 жыл бұрын
During previously on segment: Here comes the meta meltdown,run for your lives.
@devinsears1886
@devinsears1886 4 жыл бұрын
this comic has potential; just needs a WHOLE LOT MORE WORK!
@redleaderantilles1263
@redleaderantilles1263 9 жыл бұрын
I just realized that I never saw this part of this arc. Cool idea Lewis. Granted I perfer a-hole linkara just cause that can be hilarious esspecially early on before the arcs become character peices.
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 6 жыл бұрын
I bet I could've written a better Catwoman guardian of Gotham when I was eleven.
@user-wx4sn6ve8y
@user-wx4sn6ve8y 5 жыл бұрын
It is awesome story, i m impressed how smart it is and how it goes on through the review until now.
@AusSP
@AusSP 7 жыл бұрын
But we've always known who the Wayne's killer was. It's been Joe Chill for 69 years, in three different versions of the main continuity, and has been dealt with three different ways, though Batman has never actually killed him. Plus a dozen Elseworlds and such.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 жыл бұрын
The killer changes depending on the version.
@AusSP
@AusSP 3 жыл бұрын
@@fightingmedialounge519 Occasionally, yes. The Tim Burton movie, for example, as well as some alternate timelines. But the canonical main continuity has Joe Chill.
@Savagewolver
@Savagewolver 3 жыл бұрын
In the most recent version, Batman actually forgave Chill, which, frankly, I’m ok with. Some might call it stupid, especially given the storyline wherein it takes place, but I still like the concept. Yes, Chill killed Thomas and Martha, but inadvertently he created Batman, a caper crusader that strives and works so that a child wouldn’t have to lose their parents in a dark alley. It’s under that pretense I believe Bruce would, indeed, forgive him. That and it shows a strong character to forgive one that’s wronged you deeply.
@thegreenreaper8908
@thegreenreaper8908 7 жыл бұрын
And what about lex Luther as superman and superman as lex Luther lex name will be krypto-knight and his alien name will be Luth-el
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 5 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a story from the Silver Age.
@Rgoid
@Rgoid 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimifw58 It was. Superman #230 “Killer Kent vs Super-Luthor”.
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 2 жыл бұрын
Why did Bruce even try to kill Selina? If he just wanted money he could have just stayed married to her, she didn't suspect him
@furioussherman7265
@furioussherman7265 8 жыл бұрын
Another thing about this comic that makes it bad is all the thought bubbles. Comic books are a visual medium, and in a visual medium, the rule is "show, don't tell". Thought bubbles (and narration panels) are lazy, taking the focus off of the picture and the emotions and thoughts that could be conveyed visually with some more effort. It's because of this that thought bubbles and narration panels are redundant. There's an old saying that goes "A picture is worth a thousand words". If writers and artists followed this more often, there'd be a lot more good content out there.
@TheSefirosu200x
@TheSefirosu200x 8 жыл бұрын
I disagree. A comic with just no text at all wouldn't work.
@furioussherman7265
@furioussherman7265 8 жыл бұрын
TheSefirosu200x I'm not talking about no text, I'm talking about the only text being the character's dialogue. No thought bubbles, no narration text. When someone's not talking, let the picture tell the story.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 Ай бұрын
​@@furioussherman7265not really how comics operate.
@furioussherman7265
@furioussherman7265 Ай бұрын
@@fightingmedialounge519 How so? And if that is the case, why not change it?
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 Ай бұрын
@@furioussherman7265 it's pretty much built into the foundation of comics and adds to their appeal as it allows readers to get a deeper look into a character's feelings and thoughts than seen in most other media. It's not changed because it's proven to work in comics before and after this one; with the issue being the writing what's put into the dialogue(internal and external).
@theultimatememelord5494
@theultimatememelord5494 Жыл бұрын
Crazy Steve biography: After having a sexual relationship with his mother and his parents dying, Bruce Wayne goes insane and becomes a murderer, killing Selina Kyle's parents. He also becomes a perverted racist bigot. The events of this story then occur, but as Batman falls, the impacts cause him to vibrate enough to be transported to the millerverse, where he lands on top of that Bruce Wayne, killing him. Seeing this, he panics and flees to liberty city, where he continues to don his torn up batsuit and calls himself the Fixer. He also begins a relationship with Natale Stack. After defeating Al Queda, he returns to Gotham City and fully assumes the identities of both Bruce Wayne and Batman. The events of Assbar occur, and Jason Todd's death causes him to retire. Over the next 10 years, he gradually starts to become more like the actual Bruce Wayne. However, by the time of Dark Knight Strikes Again, he reverted to his old ways.
@LuminousPrime
@LuminousPrime Жыл бұрын
"Catwoman!!! Give me back my blood!!!"
@regularshowman3208
@regularshowman3208 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the thing that I dislike the most about this story is the tone. It's so mean-spirited, and everything feels like it doesn't mean anything. There's no actual romance between Selina and Bruce, he's just a psychopath trying to kill her. The entire rogues gallery is treated with utmost disrespect, most of them casually killed off off-panel. Even the Alfred stand-in dies unceremoniously. It's not even shock value, they're all just tossed away like disposable plot devices in a bad story where nothing means anything. There's no humanity to it. No soul. Everything is just nothing.
@Lawnie
@Lawnie 4 ай бұрын
Wait, hang on just a second. I'm at exactly 23 minutes in and I've just noticed that the portrait of Selina's parents? They look IDENTICAL to Selina and evil Bruce Wayne! What kind of Elektra complex horse hockey is THAT?
@CX462
@CX462 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, here's another question that came to my mind, if Bruce really wants Selina dead so he can inherit her fortune, why is he trying to Kill her with his bare hands/weapons instead trying to do something more subtle like, poison her food or drink?
@theshipper5797
@theshipper5797 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, or even stab her in her sleep before mocking her as she dies? Does he want to challenge himself? He didn't do that when he killed the villains, so why her?
@hisuiantyplosion
@hisuiantyplosion Жыл бұрын
came back to re-view this episode... and just noticed that the tombstones read thomas and martha kyle... what? :D
@Lanier2369
@Lanier2369 6 жыл бұрын
The thing about Batman knowing the identity of the person who killed his parents... I think that it's better that he eventually finds out, like in the pre crisis version, and of course it being a random person like Joe chill instead of one of his villians like the joker from the Batman movie that was brought up, something screwy from an otherwise cool movie. Think about it. Depending on how the characterization they decide to go with him it wouldn't make sense. If he's being shown as the world's greatest detective then ya, how can he be that if he can't solve his own parents murder. If he's being shown as the slightly obsessive comforter who won't stop at anything then of course he won't stop until he finds out who killed his parents. I don't like how they kind of had him just stumble on to the identity of his parents killer like it was presented in the original pre crisis stories but anyway one looks at it, it doesn't make sense that he doesn't know, that he wouldn't eventually find out who killed his parents. And it's not about vengence if he did look into it if done properly. It's called solving a case and bringing another criminal to justice, just looking he would with a bank robber or find out who's poisoning the Gotham River or whatever. And ya I know this is a bit of a total side tangent. Lol
@wisewolftony
@wisewolftony 5 жыл бұрын
Never stick out your tongue again I had to change my pants after that.
@OwlEye2010
@OwlEye2010 8 жыл бұрын
10:30 - 10:33 Ah man, I had a good laugh for five minutes after that. That bit of writing in the comic was just hilariously stupid. XD
@ShinyGaara65
@ShinyGaara65 5 жыл бұрын
JesuOtaku: *in Nash's studio* I'm unexpected! Me: Hah! Ha ha ha ha...ha...haaa...haaaaaohhh that's not funny anymore... >_< Time makes fools of us all.
@nebulousprime
@nebulousprime 3 жыл бұрын
Does......does he not know about Joe Chill...?
@phoeline3695
@phoeline3695 9 жыл бұрын
I was waiting too long for this.
@KB-zq9ny
@KB-zq9ny Жыл бұрын
I dislike stories like this because they make Elseworlds look bad, and they're not when done properly. For example, in this one, Batman should be a con-artist and thief, like Catwoman, and a little bit like the Joker, except not murder-happy. In fact, the Joker or Harley Quinn should be one of his partners in crime. Catwoman should have an assistant like Alfred, someone with special forces or spy training. Batgirl, Nightwing, or Alfred (only gender-switched, Alberta?) would be pretty good for this since Gordon is still aligned with good. This version of Batman is kind of like the Batman Who Laughs.
@spenserbarranco2484
@spenserbarranco2484 9 жыл бұрын
Those last few minuets. Just.... Wow. Nicely done.
@TheAllSeeingEye2468
@TheAllSeeingEye2468 3 жыл бұрын
are we sure this isnt just another crazy steve story?
@TheZipperDragon
@TheZipperDragon 9 жыл бұрын
It feels like forever since the last previously on segment.
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 2 жыл бұрын
"Just do a Deviantart search . . ." The phrase I least expected to age poorly in any internet video.
@MrMaxHauser
@MrMaxHauser 4 жыл бұрын
Why is it that Batman and Catwoman can get married in this, but Tom King can't have them be married?
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman 9 жыл бұрын
Oh, I don't know.. Batman's certainly acting like he's two
@7781kyle
@7781kyle 8 жыл бұрын
Just curious, what's the deal with Stephenie Brown?
@shadowspider9
@shadowspider9 8 жыл бұрын
It also took Dick Grayson pushing Bruce to reveal his identity to Catwoman for him to finally pull the trigger.
@Gyarretto7
@Gyarretto7 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, so if Bruce Wayne was the Kyle Family killer, how the hell is he so young?? He's about the same age as Selena in canon, and I would think the same would be true here, given his appearance, but the art shows an adult form that kills Selena's parents, implying that he's probably 20 years older than her! And yet he still looks the same age as her? Wut?
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 5 жыл бұрын
Art screw up, I guess. He was supposed to be a teen juvenile when he killed them.
@DAsrada
@DAsrada 5 жыл бұрын
Moench: Linkara criticize my Batboner for Batman MOOOOOOOORE while sticking your tongue out...! yes...yesss!!!
@MyMagnificentOctopus
@MyMagnificentOctopus 5 жыл бұрын
It has probably been said, as there are so many comments, but this might have worked had it gone the Dick Grayson as Batman route, and Batman existed, but is gone, and Catwoman steps in to fill the role he did, but as Catwoman. It would be very different, but probably a bit more interesting than just reversing the roles.
@MrJentu
@MrJentu Жыл бұрын
18:56 is he stealing the idol from raiders of the lost ark? In a comic where the heroine uses a whip?
@r.a.fgattaiguy845
@r.a.fgattaiguy845 3 жыл бұрын
a thing I hate about these female led series is that most writers feel the obligation to shove romance in the story for no reason look at Ripley from Alien, or Ryuko from Kill la Kill, they´re complete badasses that don´t need any love interest to have an impact on the story, what´s up wih writers and shoving romance and pregnancy on these stories?
@Zombiekilleryamato
@Zombiekilleryamato 9 жыл бұрын
I think that you made an error in her reliving her identity as she did not change but wore a Trenchcoat over it but I guess you catch it later and addressed it
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 6 жыл бұрын
With Selina running for the black cat that alone justifies her as catwoman, they could have let the legend of zorro as the inspiration movie. So technically speaking this catwoman is technically speakingmore an alternate version of bruce wayne/bruno diaz who was female, and had a different name rather han being an alternate version of selina kyle (alternatively, she is an amalgam version of both of them: Bruce wayne, with catwoman's name, gender and motif). Why they couldn't leave alfred the same in this universe? they left gordon intact compared to his original version. or at least as an old woman, who could stil kick your ass. Was it that hard to actually create a good story where catwoman either a) swaps body with brcue and catwoman becomes the guardian of gotham, either with bruce or selina in the driver's seat? b) takes the mantle of protector of gotham after batman dies c) has bruce's life but bruce has the life of selina, like the real one?
@lucasmackey2808
@lucasmackey2808 Жыл бұрын
21:28 I was only kidding! You thought that was for real!?
@jakjakjak1076
@jakjakjak1076 7 жыл бұрын
18:30 That joke was funny 😂😂
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