j boilard im still thinking about buying this game or not, agricola is my favorite game but its not always easy to find players, I think caverna is awesome but a little more complex so it will make it worse, am i wrong?

j boilard caverna is defininitely more complex, no doubt about it, but agricola is the more challenging game to do well at

+j boilard I agree with you on finding people to play agricola with. When I even mention the game, people think you just brought up a memory of their elementary school bully for the first time in years.

+j boilard Agricola's okay. Prefer Caverna as it's just a little cleaner playing and (I think) a little easier for new players. There is more stuff RIGHT at the beginning but I would actually argue that once you get going it's an easier game to play. It's just so much easier to feed that there's not the same level of new player frustration. If your looking for a solid euro farming game have you tried Scoville? A little different mechanically but I've found it a big hit with players that see Caverna and are a little intimidated.

Yeah, but look at all the BITZ. 300+ wooden pieces for animals, resources and dwarfs 60+ acrylic nuggets for ore and ruby 16 game boards 16 punchboards with over 400 pieces 30 cards 1 score sheet 1 rulebook 1 appendix

and at 28:58 you could get 3 items in adventure. You first get a stone to use it to furnish. Is that possible?

regarding the Ore Mine, why do you think he couldn't use the Mine? He built it in the first action and he said then that "From now on" when he mines for Ore he gets +2... and it makes perfect sense that it would work that way

Regarding the 28:58 question... it's possible, you receive the Expedition loot in the order you want, so he can get 1 stone, then he can use it to furnish... etc... do the rules say anywhere that you can't use things in the Round you acquire them? Also, this video is almost 4 years old, if that was done wrong it was a safe bet that it would have been noted already :)

why wouldn't you?

sorry, i haven't played the game for a few years, so i don't remember...

that is true, and I believe I demonstrated that in the video :)

@@rahdo You did not. You said that if you ever got a wild pig, it could go in that stable. Acquireboy pointed out that not only could you store a hog, but by building in that space you'd immediately get the hog to put in the stable.

timestamp please

It's more like 7:00 where he really starts

Joseph Garcia honestly i can't say. i've already traded the game away. but if i did still have it and i had the time to test variants, i think i'd go with 1) using the sides of the tile boards that hold fewer tiles and 2) randomly choose which special tiles will appear in eveyr game, so the setup is always a bit different

+Joseph Garcia Or just wait a bit. I would guess that Caverna's first expansion will address this as it is the most common complaint. Beyond that, though, you can try randomly dealing a couple tiles to each player and allowing them to start with one of them (returning the other to the board) + one animal and veg of their choice. Allows for some early direction as people try to get resources to work with their starting tile/get animals to start breeding. It further trivializes the food struggle, though.

yup i checked and didn't see anything that disallowed it...

Thnx for the feedback :) And the great gameplay.

Nah.

i'd say they're both strategic games... caverna just has 3x the number of major improvements (which are always the same) and agricola has the occupations & minor improvements.i'm sure caverna will get expansions, definitely, and that will probably help significantly with the variable setup. only question is, will I still own caverna by that point? answer is, I don't know... :)

Hi Glauco! I saw one of your older posts about looking for solo games and was wondering what you came up with. What are your favorite solo games? I'm a solo gamer too and thought we could share our experiences!

Hey Brian, thanks for replying! I'm very glad to share and trade my experience with you. Im not a long time board game player. Been in the "field" for 2 years only, in Brazil things are getting hotter now, with many games being published round here. My favourites solo are LOTR LCG, i love deck building games and LOTR theme... so it is very easy to love this game. Through the years the game got better and better, with excellent quests and really good alternatives for deck themes and etc. Mage Knight board game is excellent, really hard to master... i've spent hours doing the solo conquest. once i played standing up through an entire game that lasted 4 nd a half hours... i was totally sucked into it and didn't notice the hours flying.. Agricola for IOS has gotten into me, i really like it. Other games i would mention are Nations, works really well for solo. Robinson Crusoe is a very good adventure game, really hard solo mode. Legendary is good, but to be fair, i like with more than 4 people. I will think about it a little more, but those are the things that usually hit my table. I also play a lot of video games when im alone. I don't have a preferred media :). What about you?

Glauco Tabet Lima Ah, good to hear from you, Glauco! I play video games across multiple platforms too -- PC, emulators, PS3, 3DS. I've played phone and tablet games but they tend to disappoint over time. I don't have IOS so I miss most of the board game apps. LOTR LCG is a favorite, though I'm working through it slowly in order of release (on Khazad-Dum now). I'm thinking of picking up the Hobbit saga. Mage Knight has a unique feel that I enjoy, but it doesn't get much play because I don't have the necessary block of time and I can't leave it set up overnight (kids will eat it for breakfast). Same with Arkham Horror, though I really like the mood that game creates. Haven't played Crusoe; seems like it would be another big, long game that I'd have to quit before finishing; how long does it take you to play? I have Friday, though, and it's a good game to bring with you on a trip if you can't pack big games. Adventure of D is another one that serves that purpose, and I also have the Ascension 2-player apprentice set that you can play solo using the "Nemesis" rules. My favorites right now are Shadowrun Crossfire, Marvel Legendary, and Legends of Andor. All of the co-ops I play using 2 players, but with Crossfire I will even play 3 or 4 -- it's very easy to manage. That's probably my favorite game right now. Barbarian Prince is a free print and play solo game that gives a great experience, if you're not scared off by the fact that it's an old school storytelling pencil-and-paper tabletop that refers often to charts and tables. What games are you considering next?

in our experience, there's no such thing as a lucky draw letting you win in agricola, because we play with the draw 10, keep 7 rule (as mentioned in the rulebook). since in an average game you're only got to get to play 4 or 5 cards, the draw 10/keep 7 pretty much guarantees everyone's going to have a fighting chance. the "agricola requires you to do everything" is a myth, btw. i posted at length about it here: www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/1w7bhb/what_are_your_thoughts_on_the_meta_game_of/cezdnv8

don't think it's available yet... you can preorder it on several sites though...

Played it last night here in Texas, so it is available in the states. Keep lookin and good luck, it is really fun :)

it took a bit of training my brain, but i watch at 3x now (using the "playback rate" chrome plugin)

I think either is acceptable, though dwarfs is more likely to be the plural of peal world small people... :)

'Dwarfs' is the traditional plural form of 'dwarf'. The term 'dwarves' was popularised by JRR Tolkien, and is now the most commonly used term in fantasy settings. 'Dwarfs' should still be used outside fantasy, however.

It's like they say: "we learn something new every day". Thanks for the clarification

not very likely to happen, sorry :(

:( oh well. Thanks for the ones that you do, do; they are very well done.

Because they needed to put the weapon discs on the dwarves.

I agree. There are other ways to add the weapon level

Ubernt just a warning, i'm not trying to teach anyone how to play. i make these runthorugh to learn what the game feels like to play, so they can decide whether to buy :)

LOL I hear you but I think that's why he is liked so much. He runs through it. I find his hyperness and go to it approach just great.

Its actually a combination of La Havre and Agricola. The main complaint with Agricola that players had was the amount of moves wasted on food and how tough it was to get it. That was fixed as was half a dozen of other pain points. That's why many call it Agricola 2.0. You could say that about countless other games. Cards against humanity is apples to apples with an adult theme or dixit is apples to apples with pictures, Thunderstone is basically dominion with a few enhancements, Shogun is basically wallenstein. Eldritch horror is basically Arkham horror with streamlined mechanics, etc, etc....