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I couldn't agree more! How do you not give credit to the person who fronted your band and wrote some of the biggest songs with you that were recorded. He seems to forget that without Lou Gramm Foreigner would not have been the band that they were!😮...

Think he has regrets now listen to the interview

Yes, maybe he has, but that does not change the past. I wonder what things would be like now if he had acted differently back then.​@@ojmccaf63

Agreed....but I doubt it happens, but you never know

Absolutely.

Como assim? Ninguém é insubstituível , Lou Gramm fez sua escolha tentando carreira solo, Kelly Hansen o fez e faz mt bem. Tanto que até hj tá aí levando a arte do foreigner. Sem pretensão de substituir e sim cantar e encantar topppp

A decent guitarist could play Mick's part, but they couldn't write them. Mick is no EVH, but he is a hell of a songwriter and producer (and his son is no slouch either!) :) But yeah, Lou is absolutely amazing too...

​@iracemadealmeida8579 That's not what happened (1) Lou Gramm made his solo albums READY OR NOT-LONG HARD LOOK because Mick rejected those tunes from being put on Foreigner albums. MIDNIGHT BLUE was trashed by Mick as "NOT a good song. Lou put it on his album it charted at #5 on Billboard and was the most listened to and requested song 🎵 on American radio in 1987. (2) Lou left in 2003 for good because of disagreements with Jones and mostly Jones alcoholism 🍸. Kelly Hansen had nothing to do with their issues. Hansen tried out for Foreigner in 1990 but the band chose JOHNNY EDWARDS (UNUSUAL HEAT 1991) over Hansen and Mark Free (KING KOBRA)

Now that's what I'm talking about... Mick Jones was session guitarist playing on other people's records before he formed Foreigner! And ask Lou Gramm to come down off a roof (Lou was working construction at the time) & be his lead singer, rumor has it that Lou said no several times he had a bad experience & didn't want to go back to music. Foreigner would never have gotten where they are without Lou Gramm!

Absolutely.....it's a TRAVESTY that Mick ultimately gave Lou 0% credit for this song. He walked away with $Millions of dollars in song writing credit and Lou got NOTHING for his contribution. GREED is a horrible thing and Mick let it ruin a friendship and a song writing partnership. THAT is what Mick Jones will FOREVER be known for....that will be his LEGACY. PERIOD!

Watch this and think again: How Foreigner's Biggest Hit Tore The Band Apart - Lou Gramm Interview Rock History Music

@@ronedee obviously none of us will never know, we weren't there and part of it.... but I believe Lou Gramm's version of events (that Mick took 95% of songwriting credit for that song).

@@erichancock4618 Yes, we only know what we are told! In most things in Life. Mick first offered 20%. And when Lou wanted 40%, and Mick felt insulted (I'm assuming) and came back with 5%. Lou told him to keep it all. This is the only song there was an issue with out of hundreds that they wrote. And if you listen to Lou in other videos, which I have heard/seen several he said Mick wrote many of the songs and Lou, "added to them". We don't know the dynamics of the situation, as you correctly pointed out. But, It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to put the bits & pieces together.

Yes!!!

Yeah, Lou said Mick was a greedy a-hole who cut him out of royalties for "I wanna know what love is." That broke up the band.

@@StephenDoty84 Actually Lou didn't quit Foreigner until after the Inside Information tour . Lou was so fed up with Mick Jones' control that Lou not only hated "I don't want to live without you " he hated the album and refused to tour . Bud Prager had talked Lou into touring but in 1990 Lou got the hell out of Dodge. He left because even after his solo albums: READY OR NOT (1987) and LONG HARD LOOK (1989) were both successful , Mick Jones still refused to let Lou get his song ideas on even the next Foreigner album which they were planning. But Lou left and Johnny Edwards was brought in and the result was the album UNUSUAL HEAT , which failed because (1) In 1991, Album oriented Rock was no longer welcomed (2) The takeover of Grunge and Gansta RAP (3) Mick knew this but brought Lou back and "Mr.Moonlight (1994) did much worse than Unusual Heat. (5) Kelly Hansen has no hits either , just a tribute singer living off Lous legacy and work plus Hansen gets paid more than Lou ever did for performing the classic hits that Lou helped create.

@@waltersimmons946 = As for regards to (3), record sales count for "Jack" (fuck-all) Crazy Frog held Coldplay's "Speed of Sound" off the top spot - Worse yet was the Joe Dolce Vita novelty song that kept Ultravox & Midge Ure off the No.1 slot in England - Yet both those novelty songs were $hit. Plenty of GREAT tracks on the 1994 "Mr.Moonlight" album, at least FIVE tracks match their best. I only stumbled onto that album purely by chance, when visiting the UK's largest stationers & bookstore. Certainly was never given much (any?) publicity over here, although "White Lie" was played. I'm a lifelong hardcore Foreigner fan & grew-up buying/listening/adoring their first four albums. Even I thought they'd broken-up by 1994 - (Remember folks, no internet back then, as such, or barely) Agreeing with ya as regards to (2) Feel you're being VERY harsh as regards to (5) = I mean WTF is Kelly supposed to do ?????? He sings well (GREAT) - see below.... Let's face facts - Foreigner will NEVER recapture the glory days of 1978-1985 again, regardless. Mick did what Brian did (with Queen) & kept HIS band going I'd MUCH rather they all woulda "hung up their spurs", but they didn't - Their call Lou was NEVER gonna match the dizzy heights of his best, esp' after his Brain tumour episode (etc) Kelly DOES NOT deserve the (unnecessary) FLAK that he gets from so-called 'fans' (who aren't true) Bands AGE & line-ups change, 'cest la vie I thought Genesis turned $HIT when Peter Gabriel left & then Steve Hackett too The 'cheese pop' synth era of Phil Collins sucked anus, big time, so I bailed on 'em My only regret about Foreigner was, that "others" view "I Wanna Know" etc as their pinnacle For me, I MUCH prefered the hard-hitting Foreigner of earlier years, esp' with Ian McDonald (RIP) BTW = I absolutely LOVE Lou Gramm (platonically speaking), but he's past his prime, sadly (vocally)

@Hawny Fox I'm really not against Kelly Hansen, but as good a singer he's proven to be. He really should have had a few hits of his own. You mentioned Lou was past his prime? I agree, but Hansen came into the band almost near 45 years old (He was 44 in 2005) . The radio establishment stops playing or promoting bands like Styx, Boston , Foreigner, Journey, etc. Once the band members hit 40 yrs old. They're dismissed as relics and reduced to classic rock status played on classic rock stations. So I wasn't being hard on Kelly he came into Foreigner way past his prime, and now he's 61 and has admitted the Foreigner song catalog is harder to sing because of his age. I really respect his honesty, but he should've some had hits of his own. Jason Scheff, who replaced Peter Cetera came into Chicago's band at 23 yrs old and he actually had a few hits of his own but Jason was in his prime, though eventually Chicago also got older and was reduced to classic rock status. Mr. Moonlight, I knew when it came out it wasn't gonna go far because it didn't rock like Unusual Heat with Johnny Edwards, which charted even better than Mr. Moonlight. Also, Mr. Moonlight didn't have that fire like Foreigners' first four albums before "I want to know what love is " came out on their fifth album. Lou singing was great on "Moonlight," but the songwriting partnership of JONES/GRAMM died when Lou left Foreigner in 1990. Like fast food once it gets cold, you reheat it, but somehow it doesn't taste the same.

​@@waltersimmons946 Think we (you & I), disagree on the "died in 1990" bit - (songwriting partnership) I'm absolutely astonished that "Mr.Moonlight" contained as many 'Good/Strong/Fine' songs as it did Sure there's a couple of turds on there (Big Dog anyone ?) & some mystifying 45rpm choices too. "Hole In My Soul" alone is worth the admission price on it's own - Great track, soulful & powerful. "I Keep Hoping" is both VERY emotional & powerful & sees Lou again at his finest. I often wonder "if" that's the best track on a strong album (?) but there are at least SIX tracks I like. Tracks 1,2,4,5,8,9 - Any one of those is as strong as their earlier stuff, albeit 1994 You mentioned "classic rock stations" For ME they ARE the death knell of Rock Music - same $hit day-in, day-out Only so many times you can hear "Won't Get Fooled Again" or the dreaded "Hotel California" I believe radio listeners in the USA have FAR better tastes than the idiots over THIS side of the Atlantic Yeah sure, we have Rock Music fans here too, but far too many are like sheep, staple diet, etc. It actually grieves me that "Mr.Moonlight" went below the radar - (more like a submariner !!!) Lastly, for me, Mick Jones' propensity for the sickly ballard was like taking Mogadon (listening to..) That's as to 'why' Mr.Moonlight album pleased me so much, well-crafted songs again (but publicly ignored Best track on "Inside Information" (for me) was the raunchy & superb track "The Beat of My Heart" It restored my faith (1987) that Foreigner could still deliver the torpedoes to hit-hard-as-nails (antidote to the lame & dreary "I Don't Wanna Live" - oh the irony of those first four-words !!!!) But at least (here in London), Atlantic actually bothered promoting "Inside Information" (billposters) That clearly didn't happen in the U.K for 1994's "Mr.Moonlight" & I'll assume the same for the U.S.A ??

He also ripped Lou off on "URGENT " and "Waiting for a girl like you " song ratio on that one Mick 75% Lou 25%. Trouble began before "I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LOVE IS" was a thought.

@@waltersimmons946 maybe his health problems now is karma?

@doninmichigan Well , I would be more blunt to say 👉 What's gone around, has come around. A situation Mick can't dodge or explain away.

@@doninmichigan Karma? The guy is 78. That's not karma, that's life expectancy.

Ditto man, also 1979! What a strange trip it's been.

Robert,you should watch "Alive Inside" a documentary by Dan Cohen, founder of the nonprofit organization Music & Memory. You can find it on Amazon. It tells of how music brings people 'back' from dementia if only for a while. You will NOT be disappointed, I promise.

It's horrifying to think any should suffer from Alzheimer's but could a person bring that person back for at least the duration of a 80's or 90's song no, only the mid to late 70's songs were made to last.

Sweet!#

YOU MADE ME CRY READING THAT😥...GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FATHER..🙏❤🙏

Couldn't agree more..👍

Patricio Farez I agree ! r and r hall of fame is a joke .

@@GreggF65 Yes. Madonna? Really? For shame.

Jones had some falling out with one of the bogus R&R Hall of Fame principals/owners. "R&R Hall of Fame" started by some businessmen/investors. Credibility? Just a $TOURIST ATTRACTION.

@@briangordon2208 It became a sham when they inducted Madonna.

+VIDEOHEREBOB Kelly is fantastic, too.

+Terri Geer Kelly is a good vocalist, no question, but I'll bet he was told to nail Lou's phrasing because it is so legendary. Kelly sounds so much like Lou and I don't believe it is coincidental.

+VIDEOHEREBOB Hello (again) Bob on most vocal stuff i agree with you but not on this, Kelly doesn't sound anything like Lou. And he will never ''nail Lou's phrasing''.

+SecretYoungLink007 What song?

+VIDEOHEREBOB Any/all songs?

There's a really cool interview on YT where he goes in-depth and describes everything he went through with his brain tumor and what he had to do to start singing again. what got me looking into Lou's condition was unfortunately I was diagnosed in May with a brain Tumor myself . I'm 43 and I would listen to Foreigner on the way to all my doctor appointments . So one day I went on KZfaq being curious as to what the guys were up to recently , I found out the information about Lou. One of the things that I thought was very interesting as a believer and a Christian is that he shared his faith and explained how he turned his heart and life over to the Lord ( his exact words) and I thought that was pretty neat for a rock star to admit such a thing. It was cool and brave to see that he wasn't ashamed of King Jesus.

Here's the video.....kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pp5_e9GTsLDJiXk.html

Lou Gramm !

+Anthony Morgan You sang with Lou? Awesome! Did you rehearse with them too?

+SecretYoungLink007 yes we did

+Anthony Morgan Cool

+SecretYoungLink007 thanks ! Why did you ask? :-)

+Anthony Morgan Just a big fan of Lou and i like gospel choirs, as a musician myself i just wonder how such things go ;-)

NO, HE IS BORN AGAIN AND KNOWS THE PEACE ONLY GOD CAN GIVE, I'm glad god gave him another chance,merciful father god

Yes, but not giving Lou Gramm his rightful credits is not fair, and he cheated Lou out of money. But, God also doesn't like a THIEF EITHER!

Cool. I wonder what medication he's talking about above. The interview didn't make it clear at all. Are we talking benzo's?

Si fuese subtitulado. Les agradeceria Estela deCapital Argentina

Not so cool. Do a little research and find out what he did to Lou Graham. He screwed the other band members out of millions. Took way more credit for songs that were not his. If I was in that band I would have smacked the greed out of him. What a selfish prick.

He didn't sing lead on his biggest hit, "I wanna know what love is." It was Lou Gramm. Mick was a greedy a-hole who cut Lou out of that song which broke up the band. F this guy.

Maybe you should look up a guy called LOU GRAMM.

Completely agree!

Not so much the image part - lol

You could not have said it better

So true ! They needed each other like the flowers need rain

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@Farang Explorer Actually the Jones/ Gramm writing "partnership" started to fade when the band went from 6 to 4 people. According to Lou Gramm the writing credits ratio between the 2 (men) were mostly 50/50 up until the HEAD GAMES Album, remember original band members Ian McDonald and Al Greenwood were ousted because they really were trying to get more of their songs on the albums and Jones was already very controlling even back then. McDonald' and Greenwood were still members of the band when work started on the 4 album till their firings in September 1980. During the 4 album problems over songwriting ratios/ credit began actually over the song "URGENT" but manifest more with "I want to know what love is" Lou was offered only 5% and Mick gave himself 95% but Lou told Mick out of anger "Take it all you SOB, and Mick did, he took the whole 100% that lead to Lou's SOLO Albums and Solo career . "Midnight Blue" was offered to the band but Mick trashed and rejected the song Lou put the song out as a SOLO tune, it shot up the charts, to number#5 and was the most requsted/listen to song on American radio in 1987. Inside Information, Lou didnt like the album and never pulled his punches about, "I dont want to live without you" he hated the song and Farang , theres no live concerts or videos ever of Lou performing that tune. The reason why they couldnt come up with current catchy song it's because the magic they had to create had long faded and Lou said this when he quit Foreigner again in 2003 and also bands like Foreigner, Journey, Styx, Toto etc . By 1994 they were regulated to CLASSIC Rock stations so mainstream radio was under orders to play/promote new bands GRUNGE/GANSTA RAP so New songs by these CLASSIC bands didn't have a chance. So Kelly Hansen? God bless him but hes a karaoke tribute singer thats paid to sing live, they won't sell millions of albums anymore even with him up front.

Koto ? Lou , I thought had put all his grievances with Mick behind him , not so it seems. Since the 40th Reunion in 2017. Lous been doing interviews this year with John Beaudin "Rock History" which can be seen on KZfaq. Lou is as bitter as ever about Mick Jones taking the whole 100% ratio writing credits for "I want to know what love is" he said he never got a penny for even singing that song . He was also unhappy with Kelly Hansen when they shared the stage , saying Hansen "Talked too much " by not letting Lou take any opportunity to speak to the fans and personally thanking them for coming to the reunion concert.

Money got in the way...

​@@BeanieScooter No. "Money" is only The Symptom of The Real Problem: "A GREEDY, SELFISH HEART..."

Has been VH OU812, not 5150, as far as I know.

@@Lotharou812 Mick definitley did 5150 with Donn Landee, then Donn did OU812 alone.

Lou did more than just sing in Foreigner. He's also the backing voice on Bryan Adam's song 🎵 CUTS LIKE A KNIFE , Lou refused to take any pay from helping out Adam's who was in a desperate situation to get his album done before the deadline because his studio singers got sick during the recording of his album.

We had a lot of slow dances to his big hit in the late 80s

I love Kelly Hanson

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtB_gNOnqJebc6M.html

His only health setback was laziness. Why show up when you can have your Foreigner cover band tour and make some money while you sit around at home?

KoolCat ! Without LOU Mick wouldn't of had any success

@@richardherzog5405 True. A great guitarist/songwriter needs a great singer in order to be successful (Mick/Keith/Brian Jones, Page/Plant and Townsend/Daltrey are the most famous examples of that), and vice versa.

@@richardherzog5405 Agreed!!!

Saw the same show and feel so fortunate to see Mick on stage. I saw The original band at The Dome on the Foreigner 4 tour, one of the first concerts I had ever been to. Funny, thats my least favorite album as an adult, but man what a career Mick Jones has had.

Foreigner This band has no original members, it is a karaoke tribute band. Foreigner died about ten years ago.

Sunny san diego Pretty much after Lou Gramm's operation back in 1997.

+Sunny san diego Mick Jones is the person who started the band, so there is an original member.

Terri Geer Mick Jones dropped out last year for health reasons and the band continued to tour which means you're seeing no one that played on the albums. What a joke.

You have a point yet but the new singer Kelly is world class and Lou Gramm would be proud of his singing. It's better to have a new ver. of Foreigner than no Foreigner at all right? A band can still carry on with a new singer and be great. YES did it, Black Sabbath did it, Genesis did it, etc. Sometimes they even put out a premo album of new material.

Yes, but do you need to shout it?

+Will Law I LIKE TYPING IN CAPS

ZKRKATANAKID guess i never thought about caps Mick and Lou were really good men, seriously they showed so much time in songwriting to me, that was real joy to give away ,to a fellow player not just a roadie. I felt blessed to be the only musician crew member they had ever hired. Today press can be so cruel,these 2need to be rrespected for a collaborration

NOT A FIGHT, GREAT MUSIC WE THANK You Rock Egos not at all, GREAT,FUN,LIFE STORIES, AND GENUINE TOP LEVEL MUSIC PEACE AND FRIENDSHIP I HOPE BE THE END RESULT 4 ALL PS WILL GET A REAL JOB,QUIT YOU ARE IN THE FOREST,WATCH OUT FOR ALL THE TREES LLLOL