BART Struggles to Stymie Fare Evaders

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KPIX | CBS NEWS BAY AREA

KPIX | CBS NEWS BAY AREA

5 жыл бұрын

BART has been rolling out new security features at stations and spending some money to deter cheaters but KPIX 5 discovered that replacing the fare gates themselves is not something the agency is implementing even at its newest stations. Susie Steimle reports. (3-14-19)

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@Joe-rx7ht
@Joe-rx7ht 5 жыл бұрын
BART: We are losing revenue due to fare evasion. 😱 BART: Let’s raise fares. 😎
@jay1970
@jay1970 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Jacques that’s logical. Someone has to pay.
@jaymorpheus11
@jaymorpheus11 4 жыл бұрын
Bart ridership drops 90 percent... BART: 10% just can quit. Raise it up up UP!
@davidchan9632
@davidchan9632 2 жыл бұрын
correct. people who do not pay are stupid creeps & losers. it will never stop. not enough police officers.
@jayoro9865
@jayoro9865 2 жыл бұрын
@@jay1970 2
@mudchute4dlr
@mudchute4dlr Жыл бұрын
as if that will do something lol
@MrDavidPartida
@MrDavidPartida 5 жыл бұрын
Not a god damn thing! Bart police is a joke. The director is a joke.
@lac2275
@lac2275 5 жыл бұрын
Lol almost every fare evader jumped over. Increasing air pressure won't change anything.
@crabkilla
@crabkilla 5 жыл бұрын
Replacing a single fare gate costs $416,000? Sounds like a brother in law price.
@daveh4334
@daveh4334 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the wrong business.
@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams
@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams 2 жыл бұрын
BART fare-evaders are definitely on the naughty list. They should make fare gates that electrically shock you once you try to go through them without paying the fare.
@Nagare89
@Nagare89 5 жыл бұрын
Ken himself was pretty worked up about this haha
@Joe-rx7ht
@Joe-rx7ht 5 жыл бұрын
He probably uses Bart. lol
@realamazingworld6756
@realamazingworld6756 5 жыл бұрын
Even in 1972 people were jumping gates
@bigcat4O8
@bigcat4O8 5 жыл бұрын
Bart is dirty af. I wouldn't pay either.
@HumanStateOfEmergency
@HumanStateOfEmergency 5 жыл бұрын
Yeap.
@nolanschaper3470
@nolanschaper3470 5 жыл бұрын
Every Car is dirty, crowded, and always delayed. I understand
@bigkiwimike
@bigkiwimike 5 жыл бұрын
We have the same lax attitude in Auckland, NZ. Why do they not either change the design of the gates or put staff there with the power to immediately detain them and impose a fine? It is very unfair on the people who do pay.
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 2 жыл бұрын
DC too, if they only could crack down, fares would stay the same and it would be a better system to ride on.
@jwsf941
@jwsf941 5 жыл бұрын
It's $4.30 one-way for adults with a Clipper card from downtown San Francisco to the Coliseum/Oakland Airport station, $9.15 from downtown San Francisco to San Francisco International Airport, and $6.75 one-way from downtown San Francisco to Warm Springs station in Fremont (the current southern end of the system)
@brentduanefoster
@brentduanefoster 5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Wang Then they wonder why people are evading fares.
@sidneyboo9704
@sidneyboo9704 5 жыл бұрын
@@brentduanefoster Very cheap considering the gas prices in SF is expensive AF.
@SwervinNeons
@SwervinNeons 5 жыл бұрын
@@sidneyboo9704 no, both are expensive
@doctorbigsmiles
@doctorbigsmiles 4 жыл бұрын
Criminalizing the poor!! As if every poor person who hops a ride, is STEALING 5 bucks. As unforgiving rent hikes have pushed many out of their housing, Bart is nickel and diming the poorest to death. Look over there, that poor person stole a piece of bread!! Get him! Public transportation should be free, we should not have handed our ecosystem over to the auto and fossil fuel industry... but get those poor kids, they just stole an apple off the cart!!
@ang5035
@ang5035 4 жыл бұрын
@@doctorbigsmiles it has to come from somewhere so lets get on with the wealth tax already - I feel like disinvestment in public transportation is a symptom of a larger issue - US empire is crumbling literally...
@JW-mx3qg
@JW-mx3qg 5 жыл бұрын
Just have everyone stop paying for tickets and just hop over. If they do not seemed to be motivated to do anything about this, then force them.
@AltDavidMiscavige
@AltDavidMiscavige 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, it’s going to cost around $400,000 to replace each fare gate ?????
@waynep343
@waynep343 5 жыл бұрын
Put switches on the gate box tops that if pressure is applied and no fair is tendered a bright flash and a photo/video taken of the cheat. Put sensors on the doors also if pushed back without a fair again flash with video and stills . No new gates only slight modifications to existing ones
@coachfuzz524
@coachfuzz524 5 жыл бұрын
BART Director was shocked? WOW
@inboxnews
@inboxnews 5 жыл бұрын
Limousine liberals are always *shocked*. They live in a bubble.
@craigcuthbert2334
@craigcuthbert2334 5 жыл бұрын
$416,000 to install a fare gate?
@ripperduck
@ripperduck 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly....
@matthewgroza
@matthewgroza 5 жыл бұрын
They better be built by Bugatti.
@HumanStateOfEmergency
@HumanStateOfEmergency 5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewgroza lol
@szqsk8
@szqsk8 5 жыл бұрын
Craig Cuthbert Unions.
@outdoorsguy
@outdoorsguy 5 жыл бұрын
IKR... that's insane...
@matts9371
@matts9371 5 жыл бұрын
Omfg. Just use a damn vertical spinning turnstile. Like what's used in many oil refineries. They are virtually impossible to get through unless access is granted or you bring a cutting Torch.
@SwolHumanist
@SwolHumanist 5 жыл бұрын
Can't they hire a security guard to patrol the gates?
@Notekins
@Notekins 5 жыл бұрын
Then the security guards will be called racists and Bart will get sued.
@SwolHumanist
@SwolHumanist 5 жыл бұрын
@@Notekins The fare evaders are all races, so why do you think that?
@Notekins
@Notekins 5 жыл бұрын
@@SwolHumanist I understand the fare evaders are all races, but the media and politicians like to criticize only the cases that benefit their agenda.
@realamazingworld6756
@realamazingworld6756 5 жыл бұрын
That would cost even more money
@GanjaBear29
@GanjaBear29 5 жыл бұрын
@@SwolHumanist mainly black and hispanic
@pgaven9396
@pgaven9396 5 жыл бұрын
They need to be more open to hire more police and change the hiring requirements..
@kshienator
@kshienator 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently human evolution since 1972 has won over the machine.
@831BeachBum
@831BeachBum 5 жыл бұрын
There are IDIOTS running Bart. Things will never change. Unsafe working environments, new equipment that breaks down all the time.
@or8494
@or8494 4 жыл бұрын
As long as my legs work I’m hoppin the stalls
@Antoto96
@Antoto96 5 жыл бұрын
How about you actually arrest them 🤷🏽‍♂️
@MiguelAnderson
@MiguelAnderson 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Villanueva there is no need for arrest...
@misskingstonjamcutie
@misskingstonjamcutie 5 жыл бұрын
@@MiguelAnderson Theft of services is a crime. The fare evaders refuse to pay the fines, so perhaps arrests will work.
@tyy2387
@tyy2387 5 жыл бұрын
misskingstonjamcutie Is it really worth calling 911 whenever someone doesn’t pay $2? The thing is everyone does it. There’s not enough officers or time to arrest anyone who does it.
@Antoto96
@Antoto96 5 жыл бұрын
Bart recently has had officers stationed at every station and less people have been hopping. It's almost like using officers actually works 🤷🏽‍♂️
@misskingstonjamcutie
@misskingstonjamcutie 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyy2387 No one said anything about calling 911. Its not an emergency. The point is that transit systems that suffer from pervasive fare evasion should have police officers stationed in the buses or train stations. I live in NYC and fare evasion is rampant and only getting worse, especially on the fucking buses. 20% of bus riders do not pay! I have sat on a bus and seen 20 people sneak on at the back of the bus and thats just at one stop. It is fucking disgusting and infuriating for honest hard working citizens like myself who always pay. The NYC MTA has just raised the fare again to make up for a deficit but they seem to be doing nothing at all about the 20% of riders who evade the fare, which accounts for a $250 million loss annually. Are you suggesting that the MTA should turn a bling eye to this and push the cost off onto the honest citizens so that the low life losers can ride for free every damn day? Saying that there's not enough officers to arrest everyone everytime is not a viable argument because the point is not to get everyone every time. The point is to place enough officers in the locations where people evade the most to send a clear message that the shit will not be tolerated. It is a matter of deterrence. This isn't North Korea, so Transit systems operate on an honor system, meaning they rely on people being honest and paying their fare share for the transit service they receive, THe problem is that nowadays very many people lack integrity and accountability and want shit for free. So when it becomes obvious that people are not going to regulate themselves and do the right thing, then everyone has to suffer and police have to be present. Perhaps you drive so you don't quite understand or care about how pervasive fare evasion affects transit riders, but how would you like it if people were allowed to steal gas and that resulted in the gas prices constantly being raised? Oh and everyone doesn't evade the fare, you idiot. Most people have enough pride and integrity to not try to beg or mooch off of society, so guess what, they fucking pay their way in life. So they pay their housing costs, their food expenses, their bills and their fucking transit expenses. It's a simple part of being a fucking adult. The fact that you think everyone evades fare just tells me that you are one of the losers that seek to get shit in life for free. Grow tf up and take care of your own shit! Nobody fucking owes you anything!
@hamburgermatty
@hamburgermatty 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe mimic the fare gates at Muni subway stations.. thoughts?
@haha20121000
@haha20121000 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the ones you can push right through?
@diabolico6668
@diabolico6668 3 жыл бұрын
@@haha20121000 lol
@huckbeduck
@huckbeduck 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like they could add spacers below the gates to increase the height from the floor, they are too easy to hop over. This would be an inexpensive option until new gates are installed. Just some simple 4" to 6" steel square tubing or C-channel bolted to the floor, then bolt the machines to the steel.
@aqua8grll
@aqua8grll 5 жыл бұрын
my favorite are the folks who slam through behind me and my bike before the gates close back up ! pisses me off !
@haha20121000
@haha20121000 5 жыл бұрын
What should piss you off is the government charging you twice for public transportation
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 3 жыл бұрын
That is a real ticker. Even fare evaders can be annoying.
@thatguyrich9822
@thatguyrich9822 5 жыл бұрын
Turnstyle gates... the tall ones that go from floor to ceiling.
@linkroute42
@linkroute42 5 жыл бұрын
Why can't they get fare gates like MARTA or something
@isaacsac5
@isaacsac5 5 жыл бұрын
One thing Bart can do is hire more BART police and have police stationed stations that have a high fair evasion rates.
@hentisenti
@hentisenti Жыл бұрын
Taller and more secure Fare gates work better
@kenjiharima23nep91
@kenjiharima23nep91 Жыл бұрын
​@Hentai Sensei just like mta subway new fare gates.
@Brandebury
@Brandebury 5 жыл бұрын
4:45 Did he just say..?
@pso142
@pso142 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! Lol good catch
@sanna8300
@sanna8300 4 жыл бұрын
What did he say?
@diabolico6668
@diabolico6668 3 жыл бұрын
@@sanna8300someone said "f*ck it"
@120ail1
@120ail1 5 жыл бұрын
So a fare gate costs over $400,000 per turnstile?
@jeffreyvlogs2
@jeffreyvlogs2 4 жыл бұрын
1:22 Somebody hops over the barrier lmaooo
@black.pewdiepie415
@black.pewdiepie415 Жыл бұрын
lol
@PvtNoclass925
@PvtNoclass925 5 жыл бұрын
Mine as well allow everyone to jump the fare gates since bart isn’t going to do a damn thing about it.
@daveheel
@daveheel 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. People who do the right thing by paying get shafted.
@42luke93
@42luke93 8 ай бұрын
They replaced the old ones with those fare gates. Idk why.
@GrandMasterLynx
@GrandMasterLynx 5 жыл бұрын
What’s SHOCKING about people not wanting to pay crazy prices?
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 2 жыл бұрын
If you're rich and cheap then just don't ride BART if you don't like the price. If you're poor, then there are discounts which are easy to get. Yes, it's messed up that some people instead choose to essentially steal from a pot of money that we are all collectively paying into!
@alexwalker7004
@alexwalker7004 3 жыл бұрын
Have an ED-209 stationed at every BART station. The fare-jumpers will think twice before dodging fare. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Jemalacane0
@Jemalacane0 5 жыл бұрын
Make a one-way exit door. See about making hardened, floor to ceiling entry doors which are credit/debit card, coin, dollar bill, and ticket operated.
@drunkenboxer123456
@drunkenboxer123456 5 жыл бұрын
Add a automated machine gun turret. We would have a lot less crime
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 5 жыл бұрын
"¡Ay, caramba!" ~ BART
@ryangiron9623
@ryangiron9623 5 жыл бұрын
just replace the entire gates into those full body turnstiles. not even a dog could squeeze in.
@adrianpolish8579
@adrianpolish8579 5 жыл бұрын
They said 600 stations?
@Jonathan48948
@Jonathan48948 3 жыл бұрын
Clipper Card Better ?
@kareemprice1046
@kareemprice1046 Жыл бұрын
People in NY still do the same too regardless of the gates they have
@terribelyivan
@terribelyivan 2 жыл бұрын
I think the company purposely didn't change the fare gates because the tickets they give make up for a large percentage of the money they make. I mean why else would they upgrade to similar look they had before. I'm also thinking that there isn't an upgrade and security because if everybody paid for their Fair it still wouldn't be enough to maintain a profitable transportation system.
@piehamcake1
@piehamcake1 5 жыл бұрын
Why isnt it free?
@horrorman9
@horrorman9 5 жыл бұрын
Like he said "TALK....TALK.....TALK".......
@codereddefense
@codereddefense 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video
@SandStormXII
@SandStormXII 5 жыл бұрын
I do this on the CalTrain all the time
@Kanchusnohomish
@Kanchusnohomish 5 жыл бұрын
The honor rule is dead
@haha20121000
@haha20121000 5 жыл бұрын
As it should be for public services lol
@victor6775
@victor6775 5 жыл бұрын
all they did at the Richmond station was add one on top but people still fare evade
@tylersheehy3918
@tylersheehy3918 5 жыл бұрын
Just send Bart to the principals ofice
@joevillamejor962
@joevillamejor962 5 жыл бұрын
They won't fix it because they probably have a contractual deal w/the company that makes these outdated gates. That is why they won't make it as a priority.
@matthewgroza
@matthewgroza 5 жыл бұрын
For a transit agency that has its own police department, you’d think this wouldn’t be an issue. They need to take away the cop cars and make the cops ride on the trains. Never understood why they need cars for Bart police.
@MrDavidPartida
@MrDavidPartida 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Groza - how else are they suppose to get their lunch ? Lol
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 3 жыл бұрын
The BART police probably patrol rapid transit stations and bus routes. In case an emergency should occur in a bus, the police can drive to the area and meet the bus. It is the same kind of patrol that is done in District of Columbia WMATA.
@beamreach7015
@beamreach7015 5 жыл бұрын
New fare gates...the next tax hike.
@Asher89leo
@Asher89leo 5 жыл бұрын
Try doing that in Japan and see how far will get you.
@evognayr
@evognayr 5 жыл бұрын
They would have to pay me to ride.
@matthewhamlin392
@matthewhamlin392 5 жыл бұрын
Dang i can hop over the gates and don't need to pay a citation. So Bart is a free ride.
@sergiobertoni4074
@sergiobertoni4074 2 жыл бұрын
At least in the States you make an effort to stop ticket evaders. In Italy they gave up many years ago, or most likely they have never started to try...
@1964sdyoung
@1964sdyoung 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany there are no barriers, and a low level of fare evasion. Just lots of ticket inspectors coupled with police officers. If you get caught without a ticket it is a fine of €150 payable on the spot. If you can’t pay then you are arrested and get a criminal record for theft. You only have to make the punishment harsh enough to stop the crime. Theft is theft wether it’s from a shop or the train company.
@frankiefivefingers6892
@frankiefivefingers6892 5 жыл бұрын
Bart Gets the most money from any other transit agency in California They're not losing that much money
@James-gz6iq
@James-gz6iq 5 жыл бұрын
Electrify the gates
@KD-ff3mg
@KD-ff3mg 6 ай бұрын
Lol at the last guy's commentary. Turnstile jumping is practically the sport of New York.
@kaiaballobey4239
@kaiaballobey4239 Жыл бұрын
BART needs to upgrade their fare gates to prevent the evasions. Plus, have at least 10-20 BART officers at stations to catch them when the come in or out the system.
@chasemartin4450
@chasemartin4450 Жыл бұрын
VTA trains are even worse these days, from what I've seen the vast majority of passengers aren't paying to ride. Given that the system only has around a 12% farebox recovery ratio, I say we cut our losses and formally go fare-free as it may be cheaper than trying to actually enforce payment (and as the 9-euro-ticket "study" showed, has MASSIVE benefits for the utilization of the transit system). BART is a different story, with around a 70% farebox recovery ratio prior to Dr. Sara Cody's brilliant idea in March 2020, but there's still a conversation to be had.
@znrctrnn
@znrctrnn 4 жыл бұрын
Fine should be $300. Need to present identification or be arrested if you fare evade.
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 3 жыл бұрын
That is similar to New York City Transit with the difference of the fine as $200.
@Nikohere
@Nikohere 5 жыл бұрын
They need to hire security put em upstairs & downstairs watchin every passenger & scoping out the area around bart stations of the bay area there i used to take bart every weekend from 2014-2016 never had a problem w no one stuck to myself & knew where i was goin each time i rode bart. But problem is they don't have any security not even any cops maybe once in a great while 1 or 2 in the afternoon then they leave but you dont see any cops there you only see the person at the information desk sittin there then sometimes their not there at all..even when i was in Richmond one night reloadin my clipper card i seen a couple of guys hoppin over the gates without payin the fare but if only maybe the city could provide more fundings to bart maybe? To hire security,if they can have security for light rail in san jose checkin everyone for a fare ticket or scanning their cards to check if they paid to ride or not then why not use em for bart theyll make good minimum wage maybe $25 an hour for bart security..last time i seen bart security come on board was when in 2015 id say when i was ridin through MacArthur oakland to SFO couple guys came on checked us all for fares & went on by. They know there has been rape & murder & gang violence for many years & every so often it happens..yet nothing is being done about it.
@Notekins
@Notekins 5 жыл бұрын
The security guards will be called racists by the media and Bart will get sued.
@Nikohere
@Nikohere 5 жыл бұрын
@@Notekins That is the Most Ridiculous statement ever..it would help reduce crime & drug possession there at the station, would you still agree to call them racist if they put in full body metal scanners like they have at the airport? There would be blacks & whites & mexicans or asians that would be security guards there because that's the common race in the bay area but only if they have security experience or hold a security guard card.
@KellanMeigh
@KellanMeigh 2 жыл бұрын
The reason you never see the Bart cops is they're too busy driving around the city streets, giving out traffic tickets.
@northernsurferboy
@northernsurferboy 4 жыл бұрын
Whoo $250,000,000 for 600 fare gates each gate is over $600,000 each. Wow
@pgwarevt
@pgwarevt 9 ай бұрын
I watched a video of fare evaders in England, and they use computers to track people who do not pay, and then use enforcement agents to catch the people and prosecute them in court.
@harbzsquadings2277
@harbzsquadings2277 8 ай бұрын
Im from england, they only do that if u pay for the wrong card or openly fare evade, and they dont monitor u all the time, its very easy to get away with a crime like this lol
@daveh4334
@daveh4334 Жыл бұрын
3:57 Did she just say there are 600 stations on BART?
@andrewrodriguez5442
@andrewrodriguez5442 5 жыл бұрын
They needa hurry in sj they said by December it should be done but who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️
@ScottysAir
@ScottysAir 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I realize that. They are not paying the fares. They breaking the laws. Those people who doesn’t listen. I think they need reinforcement. They cannot go over. Make it tighter!
@shonm.5420
@shonm.5420 5 жыл бұрын
They need to be talking about Bart security. 😒
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest that more police be added to the Bay Area Rapid Transportation police force. Security guards would get "walked over" by the riding public.
@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer
@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer 5 жыл бұрын
High voltage counter measures.
@vic6078
@vic6078 2 жыл бұрын
my school teachers did this one of my teachers paid and she told us all too sneak in and i was so shoocked that she made us do that
@freakylocz14
@freakylocz14 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you didn't have to pay $10+ each way, people wouldn't fare evade.
@bigdickrick8147
@bigdickrick8147 5 жыл бұрын
Citation Team 😂😂😂😂😂
@dantan1249
@dantan1249 4 жыл бұрын
i went to highschool with one of the guys writing the citation. hahaha
@transitdude3352
@transitdude3352 5 жыл бұрын
Snap photos of people and make them pay or it comes out of any money they get from tax refunds to personal bank accounts. If BART would’ve did right in the first place especially the new stations, they wouldn’t be having this problem to begin with.
@mohammednycvlogs
@mohammednycvlogs 4 жыл бұрын
Why don’t they copy the mta transit gates
@Erick-zp8vm
@Erick-zp8vm 3 жыл бұрын
I rode BART around Thanksgiving. I paid my fare. Here was the problem. My card said to see an agent. It became demagnetized.( I put it in my shirt pocket away from my credit cards.) Was there an agent at the station? NO. This was at the Millbrae station which is an intermodal station with Caltrain and an end of the line station. After waiting five minutes I called 911 and they contacted BART police. They paged the station agent. Ten minutes later I called BART police again. I heard a chuckle in the background. I guess they thought it was funny that I was a prisoner at their station. They paged him again. I could hear the page. Finally twenty minutes after I first called - he showed up. So much for customer service. Maybe if their gates worked correctly people would not evade fares. I did not crawl under or jump the gate. I waited for the agent. Again maybe if there were agents always present at the station, this would not happen. BTW I am over 65 and was told at that time I could not purchase a senior ticket. I found out you now can purchase all tickets including discounted tickets. So I was screwed twice, by paying more than I needed to and being held as a prisoner. This was during the COVID lockdown. Restrooms were closed. Stations and trains were more filthy than ever. Elevators were out of order. You would think with fewer passengers BART would have more time to alleviate these problems. Apparently not. They were two years late in just adding two more stations to San Jose. I understand the line in Santa Clara County will not be finished until 2030. I think originally it was to have opened five years earlier. Shanghai, China has a metro system larger than New York City. The first track was laid just 30 years ago. It is triple the size of BART. BART will be 50 years old next year. Why do the citizens of the four counties vote out their BART board? Customer service surveys show many riders think much less of BART than they did five years ago. I think BART needs new leadership. Either the current leadership does not know what to do or does not care.
@TheCloakedTiger
@TheCloakedTiger 4 жыл бұрын
Those fare gates are so cool looking. Fare evading? Not so much... Why not keep the gates, but add a MTA style bar on top, so when people jump: BONK!
@MEDUSAvsSHOE
@MEDUSAvsSHOE 5 жыл бұрын
Props to the news PA that made sure there was no poop in any shots.
@ShinTzaddi
@ShinTzaddi 5 жыл бұрын
It is really about the cost of a ticket and the lack of social responsibility of so many Americans.
@donje31
@donje31 5 жыл бұрын
ShinTzaddi Amen 🙏 you said it right!!! Man this world is sinking fast bro.
@asianfireflie
@asianfireflie 5 жыл бұрын
DC wash has a problem too
@vishalduggal50
@vishalduggal50 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is a bigger probelm than Bart Fare Evaders. Do people have enough money to pay for Bart tickets or are they struggling financially?
@sct4040
@sct4040 5 жыл бұрын
It's too expensive to ride,
@jaymorpheus11
@jaymorpheus11 4 жыл бұрын
They lose 30 million... about 25-30 employees salaries. No biggie.
@samk2982
@samk2982 4 жыл бұрын
$250 million for 600 gates?! Are they 24k gold plated???
@iglesiasbyron6531
@iglesiasbyron6531 5 жыл бұрын
With how high Tax is in California. Bart should be FREE
@oluhamilton2121
@oluhamilton2121 5 жыл бұрын
BINGO!!
@geraldtlecomoctli4282
@geraldtlecomoctli4282 5 жыл бұрын
It cost a lot to build ; the fares should help pay for itself in the long run . It will also self sustain itself by funding repairs . Making it free will only make it worse on tax payers. People not paying fares is making it worse. Before you ask why do we need rail transportation; we are running out of space in the highways , cities, and parking lots . These are efforts help alíviate congestion caused by over population.
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
@@oluhamilton2121 Also, the fares can be put forth for routine maintenance of buses, rail cars, stations, tracks, and other rapid transit equipment and buildings.
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
@@geraldtlecomoctli4282Your comment is a valid point that should be well-taken.
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
It has been of major concern that fare evasion on the rapid transit system of New York City Transit (NYCT). Bay Area Rapid Transit is more modern than Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority (MBTA), Chicago Transit Authority (CTA), New York City Transit, even South East Philadelphia Transit Authority (SEPTA). Christians called fare evasion, "stealing a ride."
@mudchute4dlr
@mudchute4dlr 8 ай бұрын
Nothing can be done. Anyone notice Dubai has the same gates and yet NOBODY fare evades because Dubai is just a good place (in terms of people). BART doesn't operate in good places. Way too late now.
@DigitalYojimbo
@DigitalYojimbo 3 жыл бұрын
$250,000,000 for 600 that's about $400,000 each ? I'm in the wrong business
@chrisgonz6853
@chrisgonz6853 4 жыл бұрын
NYC MTA fare is $2.75 and you'll get a 300 mile trip if you like.
@assassinmanx6128
@assassinmanx6128 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. That's a one station trip for Bart lol.
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
That New York City Transit fare is actually a flat rate. Some rapid transit systems like BART and the Washington Metro base fares according to miles travelled. That is why passengers pay upon entering the fare controls and exiting train stations. At least, paying the fare required by the carrier is better than stealing a ride.
@StrideSteel
@StrideSteel 5 жыл бұрын
let's boycott BART they keep on raising our fares while letting their other constituents get away for free all day
@glong86
@glong86 4 жыл бұрын
If everybody in mass decides to fare evade to make a point, BART when then be forced to do something.
@h4wz
@h4wz Жыл бұрын
“Shocking footage”
@aqua8grll
@aqua8grll 5 жыл бұрын
I mean the people who evade, not BART !
@roachtoasties
@roachtoasties 5 жыл бұрын
I'm doing some calculating. If it costs $250 million to buy all new turnstiles, and fare evasion costs $25 million in lost fares, there's a 10 year return on investment if these new turnstiles all last 10 years (I doubt that), and that stops 100% of fare evasion with 100% of these fare evaders all now paying their fares and either not trying something else, or just not riding BART (many will just walk between stations, or try a new method of free transportation like stealing cars). The costs vs. benefit here (new gates vs. doing nothing) sides with doing nothing. Maybe until there is some sort of automatic tasing of passengers jumping the fare gates (that could be a cheaper add-on to existing gates) this problem isn't going to stop. I don't live in San Francisco, but do visit. I feel a bigger problem is how dirty stations are along Market Street, along with transients sleeping and shooting-up on drugs in the stations. It's disgusting down there. One is literally tripping over unwashed homeless going to and from the trains. Go to metro stations in many other countries. They're pleasant to use, but not here. I wonder what tourists from other countries think when visiting S.F. after they go by some seedy parts of town (you know the areas) and are jumping over people sleeping on the floor in the train stations.
@ybn.davanti9158
@ybn.davanti9158 2 жыл бұрын
What the hell is fare evasion
@kaizersolze
@kaizersolze 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't believe this is coming out of California. "Our transit agency is losing money through fare evasion; what do we do?" What? Make a list of where the leakage is, put doors on the most severe one first and work your way down. Completely block off the sides and hang a low-hanging sign. That way you can upgrade as the money becomes available. How does the director not know this is happening?
@malikmcclain7869
@malikmcclain7869 4 жыл бұрын
One unnamed city not in California has begun citing chronic and habitual fare evaders with trespassing. Any business that sales goods and services (rides, in this case ) has to have concrete loss and theft prevention policies in place; BART does not. Escalating violence and exploding evasion of paying fares will hasten the demise of a once well run transit system. Enept leadership and highly suspect planning appears to be the root of the problem.
@johnmilonas7233
@johnmilonas7233 5 жыл бұрын
The Brits have a simple system in place that takes care of this.
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