Homes designed to resist wildfires

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CBS Sunday Morning

CBS Sunday Morning

2 жыл бұрын

In America nearly 50 million homes are in areas that are prone to wildfires. But residents of Paradise, Calif., who lost their homes to the devastating Camp Fire in 2018, are not giving up. Correspondent Ben Tracy looks at how the community is being reborn, using building materials that are designed not to burn.
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@Glenn.Cooper
@Glenn.Cooper 2 жыл бұрын
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@Maddiehere89
@Maddiehere89 2 жыл бұрын
Same for this 64 year old lady!!!
@jaydibernardo4320
@jaydibernardo4320 2 жыл бұрын
Same for this 62 year old.
@gtfoh2448
@gtfoh2448 2 жыл бұрын
Same for this 45-year-old woman!🥰
@JillShaw
@JillShaw 2 жыл бұрын
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@Maddiehere89
@Maddiehere89 2 жыл бұрын
@@JillShaw yes he was. I loved his travel segments!
@valerieumphenour3565
@valerieumphenour3565 Жыл бұрын
We rebuilt in Paradise. Moved in to our new home on Nov 11, 2020. 2 years and 3 days after the fire. Love Paradise.
@udochiincolor8375
@udochiincolor8375 2 жыл бұрын
I think people let go of their need to control because we all learned there is no such thing - beautiful sentiment. These Non- combustible homes are gorgeous and make sense.
@chriswesterfield2042
@chriswesterfield2042 2 жыл бұрын
And you are the company owner's spouse? Did you know this guy wants $300 per foot, and; how many years have these materials been approved? Chinese drywall sounded great 20 years ago too. How did that great idea turn out?
@Delgen1951
@Delgen1951 Жыл бұрын
@@chriswesterfield2042 Quonset's huts have been around from 1942, and so they work, beauty however is in the eye of the beholder, and beauty does not last.
@stanallport6746
@stanallport6746 Жыл бұрын
it doesnt work... the radiant heat rusts the metal exterior, everything inside cooks....watch it again, and pay attention to "it resists catching on fire from embers.." if you want to be fireproof go undergrround construction or earth cov.
@91NomaD31
@91NomaD31 4 ай бұрын
It does work. You clearly don't understand wildland fire behavior or fire mitigation.@@stanallport6746
@Plumber1111
@Plumber1111 Жыл бұрын
When I built my cabin up in the mountains back in the 90s. I built a small stone wall with crushed stone and other no flammable material around it. Not clearly to stop fires but to also look nice. I cleared 150ft around the whole cabin. It has survived 12 small wild fires so far. Other folks cabins have burned down and been rebuilt many times. You Don't need a metal or brick building, it does help. But you need to build the landscaping to prevent fires from. Getting near the building in the first place.
@TMIDiva
@TMIDiva Жыл бұрын
Really good point! One of the problems with stone is that unreinforced masonry is earthquake vulnerable. Golden State indeed! I think that stone buildings should be part of the plan in every community facing fires. It doesn't have to be a glorified Q hut. Doesn't have to look like a Ranger Station. Stone is a construction component that has a generational historical foundation. Organic to our environment and pleasing to the senses. I don't know why people need to redesign the most useable wheel and call it an improvement.
@janetpattison8474
@janetpattison8474 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! And get the fire retardant spray that works on property , land, and on the house. A photo of a burn area, I believe in NV is amazing proof of how it works.
@andrewfrodo2086
@andrewfrodo2086 Жыл бұрын
Metal can warp and distort. Also Hemp houses could be used for insulation fire resistance. Now I can have the Q hut I have always wanted.
@dalecs47
@dalecs47 2 жыл бұрын
I am retired, living in Manila Philippines. Many place in the city where fires take out 500 to several thousand homes at a time. New construction, such as our home, involves masonry and steel and almost no wood. So risk of catastrophic fire is greatly reduced. Also worth mentioning about the new construction there in Paradise, such reduces pest/termite damage also.
@airwess3369
@airwess3369 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an American here in Cebu. Every building we are constructing is concrete and steel. However, the price of supplies and labor is a fraction of that in America. Plus what Everyone is missing is that those fires were all set to drive out owners so investors like Black Rock and Vanguard can buy them up.
@codacreator6162
@codacreator6162 Жыл бұрын
@@airwess3369 wow. I’d love to see evidence of that. Seriously, I hate Blackrock with an unholy passion, but that’s a serious allegation. PG&E dropping the ball on maintenance in exchange for profit is bad enough (and provable), but Hedge funds burning people out? That sounds like a play straight from the GQP Playbook. Except everybody knows they’re in the pockets of big business…
@SunnyWu
@SunnyWu Жыл бұрын
Back in China, our homes were built from concrete. It doesn't burn. You can't really have that in California because of earthquakes. A concrete building would crumble and bury you.
@dalecs47
@dalecs47 Жыл бұрын
@@SunnyWu That is true, unless you use steel with the concrete. That doe make it more expensive.
@stevec404
@stevec404 2 жыл бұрын
I have never understood why buildings in fire/flood zones are not ALL mandated to be resistant to their areas recurring natural threats. Build fire resistant or nothing...enjoy the woods with confidence. Build high on stilts in flood plains...enjoy the water without fear. Anything less is the height of hubris and foolishness...and a horrible burden on insurers and taxpayers, not to mention those negatively affected.
@kitcoffey7194
@kitcoffey7194 2 жыл бұрын
Taxpayers should not be subsidizing private mortgages in risky areas while over 1/3 of households who RENT have heavy rent burdens, people are driven by HIGH RENTS to live in their cars, and are made homeless because the rent is too damn high, but somehow we have no money ever for renters ever in this country. If a natural disaster strikes your rental, you're out of luck. This cannot stand.
@SeattleBoatdog
@SeattleBoatdog 2 жыл бұрын
Ever hear of renters insurance?
@happyrootsfamily1276
@happyrootsfamily1276 2 жыл бұрын
@@kitcoffey7194 we require our tenants to carry renters insurance but anyone can buy their own home nowadays its actually easier and less expensive to buy instead of rent i encourage our tenants to seek ownership
@slickburrito
@slickburrito 2 жыл бұрын
Mandates are what many conservatives don't agree with. They see it as infringing on their freedoms. So while seeing these images of the fire that ravaged Paradise may make you think "why don't they just build SAFER?" makes all the sense in the world to you and anyone watching, jumping the political hoops to actually implement the mandates that you speak of would be politically unpopular.
@stevec404
@stevec404 2 жыл бұрын
@@slickburrito - Yes...of course...The freedom to be stupid! The freedom to just let insurance, or government take care of it. The freedom for those very same politicians to think only of themselves and their re-election (can anyone say 'term limits?) instead of doing what is best for The People.
@MustangsTrainsMowers
@MustangsTrainsMowers 2 жыл бұрын
And for tornado prone areas I think a strong dome type structure would be a better idea than a typical 2x4 frame house.
@juliaweber212
@juliaweber212 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@galehess6676
@galehess6676 2 жыл бұрын
hard to build, wasted space, higher costs, not many tornadoes relative to expense of variations
@MustangsTrainsMowers
@MustangsTrainsMowers 2 жыл бұрын
I talked to a guy who briefly lived in Kansas but moved away because there were so many tornadoes destroying houses around them.
@galehess6676
@galehess6676 2 жыл бұрын
@@MustangsTrainsMowers Super rare. I lived in Kansas. If I had built there, I'd use 18" centers on the studs, tie down the walls with extra bolts running from the concrete foundation. Reasonable precautions, but not a full re-design of proven methods.
@MustangsTrainsMowers
@MustangsTrainsMowers 2 жыл бұрын
Ok go ahead and do that. Maybe someone else will try a dome shaped house some day and have a tornado go over doing nothing to it.
@BobDiaz123
@BobDiaz123 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered why homes in high risk fire areas aren't built to resist fires. Nothing is foolproof, but building a home that resists fire and making sure nothing near the home can burn are good steps in the right direction. When the next fire hits the area, and it will come someday, it will be interesting to see what survives and what doesn't.
@thetechnicanwithaheart1682
@thetechnicanwithaheart1682 Жыл бұрын
Most of the fires in Paradise burned because they didn't have fire resistant roofing material installed. The biggest mistake is to not make the house fire resistant by removing forced debris like pine cones and needles and branches out of the gutters. They didn't remove them from the troughs of the roofs. They didn't remove them from underneath the deck and put a fire screen on the deck opening. They didn't remove the twigs the bark dust the flammable things that are dry around the foundation. There should be absolutely nothing up next to the house maybe 3 to 5 ft away it should be pretty much sand or gravel. In the case of paradise vinyl is an absolute No-No. All window frames need to be metal all gutters need to be metal. Siding needs to be metal or cement board. This is going a little bit above Beyond to make a fire resistant house. Nearest trees and bushes should be a minimum of 30 to 50 ft away. All plants need to be extremely hydrated with water. Test plants for fire resistance even when they are slightly dry.
@mikeelek9713
@mikeelek9713 Жыл бұрын
This is a testament to those who endure. Not everyone is like that, but for those who adopt that approach, good things can happen.
@sierramurphy3755
@sierramurphy3755 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just build from rammed earth or earth bags...earth structures resist wildfires as well. It's better for the environment too.
@popcorn8153
@popcorn8153 2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, it's not part of the traditional building paradigm and architecture is inherently conservative in the United States. Homes have looked the same for the last 30 years.
@4Realkevv
@4Realkevv 2 жыл бұрын
Or government and city can cut the wheats and maintain the dry lands
@wownewstome6123
@wownewstome6123 2 жыл бұрын
Earth bag homes are even *earthquake resistant* and pest resistant. If done right, you can add a passive cooling system. A rocket mass heater can be added to allow for heating by using very little wood. You can burn the twigs and small dead branches from the land, thereby reducing the dry fuel load in the area.
@FeelinTangerine
@FeelinTangerine 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a regular built house in Australia that survived a giant bush fire by using water sprinklers on the roof
@frankwc0o
@frankwc0o 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if the windows are open, then what's inside would burn. Very important, that there is no sure bet your home would not burn on an intense fire that can go up to 2000 F.
@av1204
@av1204 Жыл бұрын
Glass melts in forest fires too
@shawnh8754
@shawnh8754 2 жыл бұрын
I think fire resistant structures ought to be required if you live in such a fire prone area.
@kitcoffey7194
@kitcoffey7194 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe we should not be building in those areas at all, full stop. How many times are the taxpayers going to keep subsidizing rebuilding over the same areas? Isn't it interesting how renters never get any help at all? Yet apparently if you have a mortgage you get endless help, nobody checks if the mortgage is paid off. Renting is absolute slavery in the United States.
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@kitcoffey7194 also how do you think displacing people will help the problems of renting???
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Then you can pay for it for us then. Like the things y’all say here you’d NEVER come here to our fire torn Areas with scars everywhere and say them to the face of the people who live here, to the children. You wanna be mad and blame someone, blame the corporations that have been super cutting forests for years here destroying the atmospheric rain cycles and at the same time not letting controlled fires happen , and the pollution the shipping companies in Northern California and mining that caused so much change to water tables. The residents are NOT where your ire should lie. Shame , be better
@Rayfanz1
@Rayfanz1 2 жыл бұрын
We would have to stop building everywhere. What about places highly prone to twisters, or floods. What about hurricanes, earthquakes, land slides, etc.? Every area of the US and the world have regionally specific high risk natural disaster threats. It’s twisters, where I live.
@DavidWilliams-ie9xj
@DavidWilliams-ie9xj 2 жыл бұрын
@@LafemmebearMusic I think the issue with California is sprawl. They need to build more dense walkable towns and discourage building new suburbs. Residents have fought against this.
@RoccosVideos
@RoccosVideos 2 жыл бұрын
They can use this in most of the western US. 👍
@janetownley
@janetownley 2 жыл бұрын
Problem solved - easy-peasy! Probably only cost a couple dollars and be done by Friday. Oh what’s that? I’m sitting here today wondering if my town is going to burn up next
@kitcoffey7194
@kitcoffey7194 2 жыл бұрын
Housing is expensive enough. We need to not build in areas prone to fire, and maintain forests to prevent fires, AND Californians are going to have to discover this little thing called "density," that building apartment buildings in cities is actually not a bad thing, and a lot better than disrupting the woods. We need affordable housing and this isn't it.
@JillWhitcomb1966
@JillWhitcomb1966 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the old Quonset huts, they were used on many university campuses throughout the USA in the 1940's and early 50's as married student housing. It was the perfect solution, as there was a glut of students after World War II and not enough housing.
@dianayount2122
@dianayount2122 2 жыл бұрын
Michigan State University had a few Quonset buildings still in use until early 80's (student radio station was in one WKAR)
@JillWhitcomb1966
@JillWhitcomb1966 2 жыл бұрын
@@dianayount2122 That is interesting ! They used them at the University of North Dakota for quite a few years, as well. Hopefully, the Quonsets were warm enough in the sub-zero snowy winters !
@micheletzanakis5029
@micheletzanakis5029 2 жыл бұрын
They called them The Barracks at Penn State....
@jenniferbethparishwhite688
@jenniferbethparishwhite688 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but can't high heat cause metal to MELT?
@psaldana5748
@psaldana5748 2 жыл бұрын
They need to address the impact from HEAT!
@rorybellamy2533
@rorybellamy2533 2 жыл бұрын
Insulation inside the frame will block Sun heat .
@lewstone5430
@lewstone5430 2 жыл бұрын
Heat from a nearby fire.
@psaldana5748
@psaldana5748 2 жыл бұрын
The heat that I'm talking about is when a fire rolls through, the heat from that fire itself can cause significant damage. It's just not the flames. I've seen where a gun safe was involved in a fire. The fire itself didn't cause damage to the safe, but the heat from it melted all of the guns inside.
@kitcoffey7194
@kitcoffey7194 2 жыл бұрын
maybe we should not be using taxpayer money to build in fire prone areas over and over. you know, the whole prevention is worth a pound of cure thing. Tell millions and millions of renters that they are entitled to a house. These people in Paradise are not entitled to a house, sorry it's difficult but a lot of people move every year, and maybe building on a fire prone area is not the smartest.
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o 2 жыл бұрын
This is what we need here in Portugal. We lose so much to wildfires every year.
@AhJodie
@AhJodie Жыл бұрын
It is cool that building codes allow a different shaped house! The woman that lives there is fantastic!!!!!
@caaiteTV
@caaiteTV 2 жыл бұрын
metal still melts
@royharrington3220
@royharrington3220 2 жыл бұрын
This is the answer for anyone in tornado ridden areas
@lewstone5430
@lewstone5430 2 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@SIMKINETICS
@SIMKINETICS Жыл бұрын
I live in Magalia which also burned with Paradise, adjacent & practically the same town, so I watch the rebuilding process nearly every day. It's a slow process to rebuild a community of several thousand that was nearly unidentifiable as the same place from before the 'Camp Fire' made it a moonscape. Skyway (the main street of both towns) and other major streets are still torn-up from all the heavy logging, firefighting & reconstruction equipment used for clean-up of our previously heavily wooded terrain; additionally underground utility installations create many traffic detours & delays for the remaining residents who still have homes. This is 3 and a half years after the Camp Fire, and we still have several years to get back to normalcy. Fortunately, I found my home spared after worrying that I lost everything during 3 weeks of of mandatory evacuation. Many of my neighbors are refugees who weren't so lucky.
@karycook4886
@karycook4886 2 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Paradise and grew up with when the big fire will hit. I have been gone since 2016 when I lost my house in a foreclosure. My family still lives there and they lost everything but we're smart and had good insurance. I am moving back and can't wait. I am in SoCal and hate it.
@liambenyamin5482
@liambenyamin5482 2 жыл бұрын
It does however; melt and conduct heat which would cause everything inside to combust and burn. Aircrete sips is currently the only true fire survival material in that it insulates against heat and does not melt; protecting interior utilities and furnishings from combustion.
@kencarpenter1363
@kencarpenter1363 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why you wouldn't have trees and brush right up against the building.
@davemarr7743
@davemarr7743 2 жыл бұрын
Quonset huts are ugly. Like to see something with the round roof & more vertical walls. Love the fireproof construction concept though.
@dorothy7743
@dorothy7743 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Think about all the aluminum exterior mobilehomes that melted. Noncombustible isn't enough.
@raymondpeters9186
@raymondpeters9186 2 жыл бұрын
Pumicecrete is by far the best building material on the planet Pumicecrete is fireproof termite proof rust rot and mold proof and has a high R value and good sound attenuation solid poured walls means no critters can live in your walls
@liambenyamin5482
@liambenyamin5482 2 жыл бұрын
@@davemarr7743 sounds like you have the gift Dave. Sketch Up?
@Claudia-cr2pm
@Claudia-cr2pm 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. I was up in Foresthill, CA when that happened. We had a few fires get pretty darn close. Evacuated a couple times. I knew our time there in Tahoe National Forest was tenuous at best.
@hud86
@hud86 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when people sell 1940's quonset huts like they're something new
@douglasmorgan2322
@douglasmorgan2322 2 жыл бұрын
Fire science 101....everything is fuel.
@borderlandfilms7956
@borderlandfilms7956 Жыл бұрын
I hope it works, but as with any structure, with enough heat you can get internal content fires - modern furniture and other contents burn very hot - TV's, computers, couches, laminate coffee tables. All of the plastics and modern material burn very hot.
@sbdreamin
@sbdreamin 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Paradise coming back with a fighting spirit.
@EatSomeAcorns
@EatSomeAcorns 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering why they don't do this for years, I always assumed it must have been prohibitively expensive. Good that I was wrong!
@chriswesterfield2042
@chriswesterfield2042 2 жыл бұрын
You were not wrong. The cost is $300 per foot to build. 3 times more than a normal house.
@teemlee51
@teemlee51 2 жыл бұрын
The guard rails never go up until after a few ppl die on the corner.
@kitcoffey7194
@kitcoffey7194 2 жыл бұрын
...and let's never do anything for renters like permanently end eviction or give rental subsidies or vote in real rent control. Let's just do nothing for renters ever. Renters are 1/3 of households, people. Not everyone will ever have a mortgage and maybe renting could be less like slavery... because not having a mortgage is not a crime.
@nobreighner
@nobreighner 2 жыл бұрын
Non-flammable is awesome! Though these have too much thermal bridging.
@anahata2009
@anahata2009 2 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting concept. But I'm left wondering about all the chemicals used to make materials flame resistant. What health effects might there be on those living in such structures over the long haul, with exposure to those chemicals, especially kids who are still developing? I hope they are taking that into account.
@cheryld7713
@cheryld7713 2 жыл бұрын
Concerns would be: contaminating water table, construction/deconstruction, and off gassing (if any).
@chriswesterfield2042
@chriswesterfield2042 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheryld7713 The person you replied to was referring to "off gassing" possibilities that could cause major health problems while living in the structure. But the outdoor concerns you mentioned are good points. I would think that the materials have been approved by the Government, but who knows? Americans lost millions of dollars by using Chinese drywall. How that slipped by government regulations, I'll never know. But the lesson to learn "be wary of any new building material innovations."
@jjackson3240
@jjackson3240 2 жыл бұрын
It appears that the main reason these won't burn is that almost the entire frame work is made of metal. The roof is metal, the wall studs are metal. the wall sheathing is metal. I couldn't tell for sure but I would guess the widow frames are all metal too. I believe we already use insulation that is resistant to fire so I don't see just offhand that this is any more of a chemical issue than most other homes.
@docwatson1134
@docwatson1134 2 жыл бұрын
This is most likely a product called Hardiboard, a fiber reinforced concrete board. Is available as siding or 4 x 8 sheets. It is heavy, and the framing needs to be strong enough to support the weight. I imagine with prolonged high temperatures thermal expansion might cause it to snap off fasteners. Or weaken the steel framing to the point of failure, but that could only happen if a huge fuel load was right up against the building. Best practices include removing all flammable material anywhere near the exterior, and any trees tall enough to land on the structure when they fall. The energy used in manufacturing and the related CO2 production are the most serious health threats. It's not toxic, even when heated, no toxic gases are released. However all human and animals still need to be evacuated during a fire event. It could become a huge oven, and air quality will be very bad, toxic bad from the wildfire.
@freedomfan4272
@freedomfan4272 2 жыл бұрын
@anahata2009 what about all the chemicals in the materials used in a normal home? What about all the chemicals in the food you consume?
@Goose00123
@Goose00123 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@georgeb.wolffsohn30
@georgeb.wolffsohn30 2 жыл бұрын
Before the Oakland Hills fire people talked about the Wildland urban interface. Afterwards it was defensible space.
@posthocprior
@posthocprior 2 жыл бұрын
Details would have helped. Is it the steel/metal that is fire resistant? Is it a combination of steel and fire retardant? Is there a limit to how long the house can be exposed to fire?
@johna1160
@johna1160 2 жыл бұрын
2:07 Story was about a town rising from the ashes, not an infomercial for the home builder. A few keystrokes will lead you to the answers in a matter of seconds.
@bmay8818
@bmay8818 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what they're using for sheathing here, but it looks like the siding is fiber cement, which is fire resistant, as are the steel studs. Nothing is fireproof. This house would survive many fires but if there's enough heat for enough time, the inside will eventually burn.
@chrisE815
@chrisE815 Жыл бұрын
According to the story, most houses that burn catch embers on window frames or between roof shingles. Point is, these houses don't have those weaknesses
@vintagevinylvets1187
@vintagevinylvets1187 2 жыл бұрын
Great story!
@kitcoffey7194
@kitcoffey7194 2 жыл бұрын
what is it matter when the air is unbreathable? Even people who don't own homes deserve to be able to breathe air.
@paws4mercy643
@paws4mercy643 2 жыл бұрын
3d printed houses are pretty durable and fire resistant
@Dog.soldier1950
@Dog.soldier1950 2 жыл бұрын
Having been thru the area several times prior to 18 trees and other fuels were jammed against roads, buildings and other structures, which is typical of the area.
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 Жыл бұрын
The quonset hut is a great idea. Told my dad about this two years ago.
@reedpeterson719
@reedpeterson719 Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about a guy build a fire resistant garage to store valuable car, well forest fire swept through and the garage was still standing afterwards, everything in garage got baked inside due to high fire temperatures.
@changingworldllc1157
@changingworldllc1157 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@bargdaffy1535
@bargdaffy1535 2 жыл бұрын
It is non combustible, but you are still going to have to evacuate because that thing just becomes a well Insulated Oven in a Forest Fire with plenty of Combustible things inside, like Plastics and Olive Oil. Does not make any sense.
@a.mstree
@a.mstree 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I make my own charcoal and thought… omg that hut is an giant oven!
@cbrashsorensen
@cbrashsorensen 2 жыл бұрын
Out of tragedy can come new ideas--or old in the Quonset Hut style. I am delighted to see people in Paradise embrace "different" as an alternative. I am in New Mexico near Santa Fe. Everyone interviewed about burned property can't wait to "rebuild back to normal." Of COURSE they will fail. We are in a horrible multi-year drought that has ZERO end in sight--honest. Resistance is mighty.
@AndThenThereWereBirds
@AndThenThereWereBirds 2 жыл бұрын
Hempcrete is fire resistant, and lasts for hundreds of years.
@Pitboolia59
@Pitboolia59 Жыл бұрын
My mountain was mostly burned in this fire. 18 people lost their lives.
@ritarichardson3881
@ritarichardson3881 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!!
@aarononeal9830
@aarononeal9830 2 жыл бұрын
CBS News needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants tress
@BrandonTWills
@BrandonTWills Жыл бұрын
At what temperature does the siding or metal frame melt or simply not be able to hold the weight of the house anymore? I’ve seen metal cans melt in campfires all the time.
@yixnorb5971
@yixnorb5971 2 жыл бұрын
You think that's bad. I remember a town where only 1 structure burned, the fire department.
@JSJSpeaks
@JSJSpeaks 2 жыл бұрын
The future is now! How do these rate for earthquakes? Love love love it
@kencarpenter1363
@kencarpenter1363 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like steel frames, so probably earthquake resistant.
@kitcoffey7194
@kitcoffey7194 2 жыл бұрын
Who can afford these? No one. Time to do ANYTHING for RENTERS who are 1/3 of households.
@JillShaw
@JillShaw 2 жыл бұрын
I'm super glad the community is rebuilding. As a lifelong native of California who loves my home very much I do have to say though having been to Paradise California that place is and always was a massive misnomer 💔 I wish them well but good Lord I hated that place when I was there 😂
@galehess6676
@galehess6676 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing that won't "burn up," is down. Gotta build underground. Everything above ground will get too hot, even if it doesn't combust.
@cowboybob993
@cowboybob993 Жыл бұрын
I was in Northern California during the Paradise fire. I also worked in SanDiego county spraying fire proofing on huge structural steel beams in commercial buildings. Lesson- everything burns if hot enough. Non combustible huge steel beams fail. Why not this non combustible home?
@kathybagley2095
@kathybagley2095 2 жыл бұрын
But can't a fire b hot enough to melt?
@jamestucker8088
@jamestucker8088 2 жыл бұрын
In SoCal the fire department requires all homes at the edge of a field to have a 50' fire clearance around the house. You can't have anything burnable in that zone. If you don't clear it out then the fire department will and they will then send you the bill. If you look at pictures of Paradise before the fire it looks like a huge tinder box ready to explode. People had dry bushes right up against their houses and yards full of dead branches.
@teresaferrer4748
@teresaferrer4748 2 жыл бұрын
We need to accommodate ourselves to the environment. Fires occur,,well then build something that can survive a fire. Great ideas!!
@charlietroy4751
@charlietroy4751 2 жыл бұрын
I lived there as a kid and the whole place was a tinderbox with layers of dried pine needles and dead trees. We all talked about it catching on fire eventually.
@davidtate166
@davidtate166 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like it can handle strong storm s. To.
@codacreator6162
@codacreator6162 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and homes to resist poverty look suspiciously like those we used to use for camping when leisure was attainable.
@paratrooperlane7022
@paratrooperlane7022 3 ай бұрын
The heat of a fire in this bldg will destroy everything inside.
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 Жыл бұрын
Depending on how you place them very wind resistant too.
@jaydibernardo4320
@jaydibernardo4320 2 жыл бұрын
I just spent two days in Paradise. Had a chance to talk with locals etc. I see why people live there but please keep it a secret as I'd like to live there too & would hate to see it too crowded. Selfish on my part, yes. Guilty as charged.
@kitcoffey7194
@kitcoffey7194 2 жыл бұрын
Just don't expect us taxpayers to keep rebuilding your house because you choose to place it in a fire hazard area, meanwhile we can't do anything for overburdened renters who are 1/3 of households and paying more than half their income in rent. Nothing to be done, nothing to see here.
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@kitcoffey7194 you are oversimplifying and deeply ignoring that disasters like this come in many forms and are happening everywhere now. Again I ask where would all these people including me go? Are we coming to live with you???? You’d see people displaced because of your anger but don’t say where they should go?
@Billhatestheinternet
@Billhatestheinternet 2 жыл бұрын
Might not burn, but it can (and probably will) melt.
@van123446
@van123446 Жыл бұрын
wish they would have discussed how he would have insulated all that metal from the outside cold, and hot.
@TheMooCowReturns
@TheMooCowReturns Жыл бұрын
You'd better have excellent insulation and a panic room below ground because the intense heat can still cook you inside a fire-proof home like it was an oven...
@sharonsolana
@sharonsolana 2 жыл бұрын
Why not build homes out of brick or concrete? Brick fireplaces are all that is left from fire-ravaged homes.
@LL-yy6mn
@LL-yy6mn 2 жыл бұрын
They'd crumble in an earthquake.
@sharonsolana
@sharonsolana 2 жыл бұрын
@@LL-yy6mn This fire resistant design will fold in an earthquake.
@andrewengland971
@andrewengland971 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to fly to mats and yet we still can’t stop these fires.
@benterbieten9540
@benterbieten9540 2 жыл бұрын
The simplest thing one can do for fire resistance is go with a metal roof.
@kmsvensson
@kmsvensson Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that radiant heat from a wildfire outside a non-combustible home could catch window curtains on fire that are inside the home.
@TheAmericanGamer
@TheAmericanGamer Жыл бұрын
Silly question but is the idea to stay inside during fire or still evacuate? and hope your building / belongings survive? wouldnt it feel like an oven inside and cook everything inside the house?
@janetpattison8474
@janetpattison8474 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great story. What happened in Paradise was heartbreaking. Are there other startegies for fireproofing the area? It was Not far, 30 miles from family also at major risk. Get the fire retardant spray that goes all over the house and property,for those people who can’t get the new huts.
@alexwells9948
@alexwells9948 2 жыл бұрын
4:48 A look back at Ray Liotta Next on Sunday Morning
@ChinaChuck
@ChinaChuck 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how they insulate the house? Heat and cold pass thru metal easily. I'm curious how they build with that in mind.
@jimrylander9143
@jimrylander9143 Жыл бұрын
All this is great! Defensible space is really part of the puzzle. In addition, clearing out the trees & the fire won’t have fuel. We’ve seen that you better build a home that you can shelter in. Still not a safe place to live.
@lauriestrong9972
@lauriestrong9972 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they used stucco to build houses with clay tile roofs?
@dcchong8102
@dcchong8102 Жыл бұрын
Rebuilding with ICF may be a better choice against fire.
@explorewithme4707
@explorewithme4707 2 жыл бұрын
I live in an old brick house. Only my roof is flammable. So I guess if I upgraded it. I’d be practically indestructible.😂
@lancek4511
@lancek4511 2 жыл бұрын
If only people in tornado alley that continuously build the same thing could realize
@nerdgeekcosplay909
@nerdgeekcosplay909 2 жыл бұрын
My childhood house is tornado proof when I move out I plan to make sure my house is the same
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 2 жыл бұрын
More people should move into fire risk areas. They're high earners for property insurance companies.
@JacobAnawalt
@JacobAnawalt 2 жыл бұрын
Embers also get into soffits. Anyway the sparks can get into the house is a potential problem. If you keep building houses in the trees, stop being shocked when the heat is so much your cars melt, your windows shatter, and your interior stays on fire. I’m shocked it’s insured. The premiums must be high, or the rest of us are subsidizing your life in paradise.
@66block84
@66block84 Жыл бұрын
Steel re-enforced, concrete domes, strong enough to be buried underground if you desire. Covered in concrete it won't burn or get taken out by tornadoes or hurricanes.
@kansas3332
@kansas3332 2 жыл бұрын
Those are all over here built in the 50's and 70's as shops to keep farm equipment or grain
@a807511
@a807511 Жыл бұрын
It'll still come through the glass after it shatters from the heat
@stanallport6746
@stanallport6746 Жыл бұрын
have you heard of an oven? the radiant heat cooks everything inside and burns it up
@wayneyd2
@wayneyd2 Жыл бұрын
These Quonset Huts Design can work for Tornado Alley and Hurricane area. Using earth build up and around the quonset hut make it into a green build will give it more protection from the elements.
@peni1641
@peni1641 2 жыл бұрын
These homes are made perdominately out of metal, wildfires get really really hot. Hot enought to melt metal. They should have those trees around their property checked out b/c during drought which Cali currently is in bettles hollow out the inside of trees; making it easier for fires to jump from one area to another with the high winds we get out here.
@-_-----
@-_----- 2 жыл бұрын
1. No wood-fire gets hot enough to 'melt metal', especially outside of a human furnace designed specifically for such a purpose. Scorched and embrittled? Yes. Red-hot and pliable? Maybe. 'Molten'? No. 2. There is a LOT of other stuff you can do to Metal / Quonset houses to completely eliminate this problem: Coat the outside with a mixture of Perlite and lightly-mixed Portland Cement.... 8-inchk layer should do it. INCREDIBLE insulation, and GENUINELY fireproof. Regardless, 10000x better than a toxic matchstick-timber-and-drywall house. Lighter, more healthy (mold, bugs), less waste, 100% recyclable, easier to build. And yes, the drought needs to be addressed too.
@Volundur9567
@Volundur9567 7 ай бұрын
Actually, they're cheaper than traditional stick built homes. We're looking into building one for a machine shop
@alicel3992
@alicel3992 Жыл бұрын
I like Q huts. Never lived in one so I wonder what the inside would sound like during a thunder, heavy rain, storm? I've seen a few in the desert, unoccupiedat this time, would they be difficult to cool off in 120 degree heat?
@Avocado740
@Avocado740 5 ай бұрын
I bet this house is also tornado/hurricane proof, or almost with some slight modifications.
@roadkillavenger1325
@roadkillavenger1325 Жыл бұрын
All homes should be fireproof. It should be illegal to live in a home that isn't fireproof. There's so much about humanity that could be improved by 1000%. Kinda sad that we live the way we do.
@TheHonestPeanut
@TheHonestPeanut 2 жыл бұрын
That fire needs to be called the PG&E fire.
@grrrrr2936
@grrrrr2936 2 жыл бұрын
Got to keep the combustibles (trees and landscaping) away from your house as much as possible. Stick houses with asphalt shingles are absolutely the wrong way to build a house. These people learned the hard way.
@untermench3502
@untermench3502 Жыл бұрын
Here in Maine, they are referred as Canadian missile silos.
@KILLKING110
@KILLKING110 Жыл бұрын
All of the non combustible will act as a oven and as long as the temperature gets high enough material like furniture auto ignites along with all kinds of materials hence why you don't see wood in cooking ovens so your basically trading one issue for another plus if the metal structure gets hot enough it loses all structural integrity which means you have to tear it all down to replace it with non heat damaged metal.
@Krazie-Ivan
@Krazie-Ivan 2 жыл бұрын
Nice thermal bridging ya got there... ICF, AirCrete, etc?
@davehaggerty3405
@davehaggerty3405 Жыл бұрын
My son built an all steel garage. It sure looks better than a quonset hut.
@SDPBALLCOACH
@SDPBALLCOACH 2 жыл бұрын
This is a variation/advancement of the Container Homes. CBS should follow up with a show on them. At least as practical and the costs are probably much less, not to mention the different configuration options. Think Lego blocks and go from there, these are rather limited..
@terrancearndt1689
@terrancearndt1689 Жыл бұрын
I haven't been in an oven before but my turkey has.
@seanshea8596
@seanshea8596 2 жыл бұрын
Notice how the design is a Quonset hut a design from WW2. We could have been doing this for 75 years or more.
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