CCI CLEAN Subsonic .22 50 yards from a CZ457 MTR. YIKES

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4 ай бұрын

Today were shooting Subsonic CCI CLEAN ammunition. This is a 40gn Polymer coated lead bullet ( not sure why that's "clean" ) but it's the last of the Subsonic 1070fps out of CCIs line of .22lr ammunition. Last week I shot the other 4 so if you haven't seen that video here is the link. • CCI Green Tag, Pistol ...
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@lmbear 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate your honesty. Your rifle hates this stuff, for sure. The guys saying thanks for confirming the ammo is crap, are ignorant. This is how your rifle shoots this particular ammo. It only confirms that it’s garbage in YOUR rifle. In someone else’s rifle, it may shoot 1/2” groups. That’s why we always test multitudes of different ammo in our rifles. That’s what this video really confirms. Not every rifle is the same, even if they have consecutive serial numbers. I’m giving this a thumbs up because you not only show what works in your rifle, you also show what doesn’t work. Major props

@Strutingeagle 4 ай бұрын

I have seen this too. Thanks for confirming its performance.

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Lol, your welcome

@raquaro1 4 ай бұрын

I have used CCI ammo of all sorts in my 22 pistols. I liked it and I felt it shot well. It was always reliable and that counts for something. But, I have not had equal satisfaction with it in my rifles. From a "having fun on the range plinking day' standpoint uit was fine and the price was pretty good. From a holding 1/2 inch at 50 yards, I just didn't have a lot of success. You never know what is going to work until you try. My everyday shooter is a 10/22 with a Victor stock, KIdd trigger and bolt and a KSA microgroove barrel that likes Eley Force the best of EVERYTHING else I have tried and I tried a lot. Half the fun is trying everything you can! Good video as always! Thanks!!

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

No problem, just sharing my experiences on the bench. Lol

@ScottH22175 4 ай бұрын

My 10\22 with a Kidd barrel loves Ely sub sonic. One hole at 40 yards. When I found that ammo I quit looking but I might have to start playing around with it again. Just for fun!

@johnterhark6516 4 ай бұрын

Dang… I also have a MTR and never seen that bad of groups. Enjoy watching your videos.👍

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

That’s the worst ammunition I’ve ever shot through it!

@edhalson3154 4 ай бұрын

I haven't found a CCI my CZ LRP likes either! Another good video Don. Thanks.

@CountryRimfire 4 ай бұрын

Stay true to your viewers man! Love this honesty and dedication!!!! Hard to find this on lietube/dishonesttube nowdays!

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s hard when the cost of the videos and to maintain a channel is very high. Then you get manufactures asking you to promote there products, and the money is greatly needed, so some channels take it and say things that are not necessarily true so they can keep getting products and possibly money from the manufacturer. Better off telling the truth, it always comes out in the end and the trust is broken then so is the channel.

@frankbrowning328 4 ай бұрын

I was glad to see this review as we know this is a very accurate rifle & shooter so seeing inconsistent accuracy results with it speak to the ammo and not the gun

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Yeah this ammo is junk!

@marktracht7782 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the time and putting this out there. So the CCI website had nothing but good reviews, can you imagine that?

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

I know. The consensus in the comments has been the same results I had. Crap

@user-hd7oy6th6g 4 ай бұрын

While my CZ is very accurate with MOST brands it still can be 'picky' I shot some SK high speed Match and got bad results while the SKLRM and Lapua Long Range will shoot sub moa at 75 and under and 1 1/2 moa out to 250, Other brands that are on the naughty list are Eley Tenex, Match, and CCI. Keep your vids coming. Thanks

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

I will.

@edjett2631 Ай бұрын

Load a round. If it closes hard extract it and see if the driving band has been engraved by the rifling at the front. I'll bet you will find that it is. My 452 FS engraves CCXI Subsonic and Velocitor bullets. Not conducive to pleasurable shooting. Work fine in my other rifles though.

@artfulalias3984 26 күн бұрын

I don't know about this rimfire ammo. But polymer coated pistol bullets are typically shot un-lubricated. They're treated much like jacketed but the plastic has much less friction than copper or bare lead. Some do remove lead and carbon from the bore. Maybe they'll be good for that? Shoot a magazine full at the end of a range session and leave the bore super clean?

@RimfireSS 26 күн бұрын

Makes sense

@jimmybb6826 4 ай бұрын

I shot CCI Clean in my 455, and while its performance was not stellar, it wasn't as bad as what we see here. I didn't get around to trying it in my newer 457 MTR, and it looks like I don't need to. The MTR chamber seats the bullet into the lands, and you can see these impressions on the bullet if you eject a chambered round. My guess is that the polymer coating doesn't play well with a match chamber, and this impression of the lands into the bullet is probably why it was difficult to close the bolt.

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

That’s definitely the issue. That bolt closed harder than anything I’ve ever shot. I actually put some beeswax on this ammo today and shot it again for shits and giggles. All I got was giggles, while the bolt closed a lot easier the groups still sucked.

@jimmybb6826 4 ай бұрын

Idea: chamber, eject, and examine a lead bullet. Do the same for a Clean bullet and note if they are different. I'll bet there is little or no impression on the polymer bullet, which is necessary for complete seating in the match chamber. You might check with CCI to see if the Clean bullet is even safe to shoot in a match chamber. They already warn about their Stingers for another reason. The case is too long to chamber; and if you are able to close the bolt on one, you definitely don't want to shoot it. @@RimfireSS

@donniepowell7146 4 ай бұрын

I’ve pretty much gave up on American made 22 Rimfire ammo.

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

I bought a bunch of different brands awhile back, I was going to make a video about just that. American .22 not shooting. But I never got around to it. Everything I bought was terrible.

@upStomp 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, God knows what that polymer coating is doing in a match chamber. I'd be interested in seeing what what the Clean Hyper would do in my Kidd build (non-match ultralight barrel), since it theoretically would stay above supersonic out to 50 yards.

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

I’ve already shot a bunch of different ammo through it since I did the video or I would scope it and see what kind of buildup is in there.

@ryand8050 4 ай бұрын

I was wondering what the bore looked like after that.

@bryansovich2 4 ай бұрын

I use CCI CB Long out of mine and it drives tacks? However I did buy them a year ago. Don't know but I'm not giving up on them yet.

@wahttehfuk 4 ай бұрын

Yep, this has been my experience with it as well! Glad to see I'm not just insane, these are actually really horrible rounds.

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Omg are they ever!

@Natezoinks 4 ай бұрын

Wow! 😳👍🏻

@perdidocamaronero5400 4 ай бұрын

Clean, you better clean your barrel and get that stuff out of it. Have you shot Remington subsonic? I might have missed that video I have a brick I bought somewhere in fifty round boxes I have only seen the hundred packs recently. Out of curiosity I shot some one day in a 513 Matchmaster and it did really well. I had a little bit of the Remington to shoot around my garden since it wasn't too noisy they called it the backyard 22 round. Well, at close range it will penetrate two pieces of 3/4 plywood not exactly back yard ammo. When CCI Quiets came out that became my garden ammunition through a suppressor it truly is quiet and still packs a punch especially the fragmenting variety. I always thought the Rem Sub stuff was bottom of the barrel but CCI Clean clearly is.

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

It really is terrible

@seand7373 3 ай бұрын

Cci should change the name to buckshot

@TheSaintsAdvantage 4 ай бұрын

CCI (in all forms) is plinking ammo. I've shot it all in all platforms. Custom 10/22 CZ 457 Jaguar CZ 457 Varmint CZ 457 Varmint MTR Their best purpose built .22lr is the Mini Mag Target Mini Mag Varmint Velocitors Stingers None of those are for "target/accuracy"

@bryanschwertner3585 4 ай бұрын

Kinda makes you wonder if that bullet needs free bore. I can’t remember the make/model but one round I shot in the TC Contender “match chamber” barrel shot pretty bad but was better in my non match chamber bolt rifle. Just wondering. Take care.

@gaetanvallee 4 ай бұрын

Same in my Tikka. Thank.s

@bizzy2four7 4 ай бұрын

1:18 you mention you’ve got a DIP bottom metal on it, but I can’t seem to find that 457 bottom metal anywhere. Is it discontinued? Thanks for putting these videos together!

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Oh shit, I have the Anarchy Outdoors part. I have the DIP on my Savage. www.anarchyoutdoors.com/cz-457-bottom-metal/

@bradh74 4 ай бұрын

Usually your mini mags and a few others shoot pretty consistently, in run of the mill 22. So CCI has been known for being decent or the best of the cheaper ammo. A lot of people like the mini mag because you don't get the lead fouling. I always just shot what they had at the store if they didn't have what I prefer but I just plink so....I'm not measuring groups. I hear that the new Remington Golden bullet bulk ammo is shooting well (after bankruptcy)(not match ammo) so??? Not sure but maybe they're trying to make a comeback that would be nice.

@brendonbenson 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing I'm thinking that shoots worse than rem golden bullet 😅

@KeithJamesDesigns 4 ай бұрын

Is it possible that the overall length is causing it to bottom out in the chamber?

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Pretty sure the poly coating is causing the hard chambering, I put some beeswax on some today and the bolt closed normally but it still shot like shit.

@minax92 4 ай бұрын

Mine is love sk standard plus its too bad i cant buy it any more , who knows for how long the cheapest and most accurate for this rifle so far for me

@ryand8050 4 ай бұрын

I would be interested to see if your savage likes cci better? Not this stuff, I don’t think plastic coatings and heat mix but that’s just my opinion

@johngriffin5446 4 ай бұрын

i wonder if it would shoot better in a non match chamber?

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

That’s possible, I’ll see if I have one… if I do I’ll try it.

@jdsolberg7613 4 ай бұрын

I wonder what the barrel looks like. Does "clean," mean it "cleans," the barrel?

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

I think it’s so you don’t get lead on your hands when your loading the ammunition. Not sure really…

@donh1572 4 ай бұрын

Any updates on the 22lr Evolve-15?

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Yeah I have a accuracy video half done. Basically trying different ammunition. It shoots very good. Been waiting on the wind to calm down so I can finish the video.

@donh1572 4 ай бұрын

@@RimfireSS ooooohhh! I’m excited!!!

@camarokid518 4 ай бұрын

What scope are you using

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Arken and Tract, testing a Swampfox right now that I’m really impressed with.

@CyclopsJoeVideos 4 ай бұрын

That ammo blows

@user-my5gj4me6q 4 ай бұрын

Where's your 10/22? Tac22/SVs/Mini Mag Segmented 22lr

@pitts3219 4 ай бұрын

CCI had a chance to really shine with there brand name. And they chose to take profits instead of capitalizing on their products. Harley Davidson did the same thing and how did that payoff for them? lol

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely.

@douggiek9 4 ай бұрын

CCI seems to be on the downward trend.

@robco2185 4 ай бұрын

Get a savage, I get 1/2 groups 50 yards segmented hollow point subsonic

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

I have one

@rustynut1967 4 ай бұрын

Yikes!

@nelsonm5032 4 ай бұрын

Terrible! i wonder what the heck is going on over at CCI these days...! another one to avoid, thx and cheers.

@johnhermsen6456 4 ай бұрын

No discussium crap

@alexugorcak6159 3 ай бұрын

Switch to regular cci

@RimfireSS 3 ай бұрын

You must have missed the video I made before this one.

@yourleftnut814 2 ай бұрын

best 22 for my 22 rifles is the minimag. At 25 yards (with no wind), I can shoot into the same hole. At 50 yards, 1/2" groups. Stingers are absolutely horrible in my rifles (best group was 1.5") Gonna try out these clean subs and see what happens..

@michaell397 27 күн бұрын

Oddly, against all advice I tried Stingers in my 10/22 with a Benz chamber custom bbl. Unreal. Just shot a .172 group at 50 yd;s with it. Lightly engraves on the driving band of the bullet. Will not extract a non fired round. But the Accuracy!!! KnifeMaker

@alexugorcak6159 3 ай бұрын

Scope not holding zero lol

@RimfireSS 3 ай бұрын

Right… it’s the scope…. Lol

@AuntBeatch. 4 ай бұрын

Try it in something else?

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

I will.

@practicalplinking6133 4 ай бұрын

More like a crap shoot. Chamber got any polymer in it ??, the scraped off buildup type since yer bolt closure was difficult.

@geordiegeorge9041 4 ай бұрын

Well I won't be buying any of that stuff.

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

I bought 300 rounds! Lol

@stevenxindaris1477 4 ай бұрын

I shot it in 3 match rifles and it shot terribly in all of them. This ammo is worthless.

@eric12245 4 ай бұрын

All the groups are to the left. That tells me you are muscling the trigger and have poor breathe control. The speed you were firing at if not sped up accounts for some of the group size as well.

@RimfireSS 4 ай бұрын

Your observation is hilariously off base. That tells me you are bored and spend too much time watching KZfaq criticizing people. For your information I and many shooters sight in to the left or somewhere off center so we don’t shoot out our aiming point. And, you can’t hear the different pitch in the audio when I speed up the footage? Wow! Your hilarious 😂